It's amazing what room treatment will do for the sound quality. 🙌
@marcusaurelius2988 Жыл бұрын
You also run the risk of making the sound too dry with room treatment.
@PSA78 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusaurelius2988 I would say that you are passed treatment at that point, and there's certainly some that's gone overboard as they didn't know what they were doing.
@Harald_Reindl Жыл бұрын
@@marcusaurelius2988 hardly and even if that's what diffusors are for - nobody needs ANY hard reflections in a listening room
@vortekkz_mixes Жыл бұрын
@@marcusaurelius2988 thats why you concentrate first on the lowend and there you need mass in form of depth (30cm upwards) or resonators to save space. Its way easier to handle upper frequencies, the main goal is to select the correct place, amount & choice of Materials and have an balance between Absorption & Diffusion
@Chrisspru Жыл бұрын
@@Harald_Reindl i use two hard reflection deliberately to make it sound as if my speakers are inside this wall instead of crammed together because of space/furniture constrictions. its a very backwards version of invisible speakers.
@marcocarrara2115 Жыл бұрын
And the ceiling Is so fancy. Wow. I love It! So shiny!
@sirtimothyjasonwellsakaelduce Жыл бұрын
Hey Paul , I ended up using futon mattresses for the corners of my room , I played around and made my own diffuser panels , I got a really good deal on the futon mattresses from a store that was closing. I have pretty much a 75 percent spot on sound room that I only now put about $1000.00 investment to achieve what is good for me , hid all the futon mattresses with homemade hanging tapestries, I then built isolation platforms for my 3 subs raising them off the floor 10 inches .
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
You will never be voted into the “Audiophile Hall of Fame” Shame on you for saving money making all the high rolling 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰Audiophile’s financially Eccentric people.
@Harald_Reindl Жыл бұрын
Low frequencies don't give a shit about this nonsense as they don't give about any foam and they don't live only in the corners
@RealAnonymousse Жыл бұрын
Would be really cool to see pictures!
@philipw7058 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you have listened to me about room acoustic I have been telling you about this since the infinity’s were in there and I told you they were also to big for that small room (remember me) 🤔
@NiclasMardfelt Жыл бұрын
DAAD from Acustica Applicata (Italian) are great! Paul showed model 3. Just as Svanå Wings (Swedish) they adjust diffusion time wise for better effect. As they can be turned you can fine tune them better than diffusion panels and make the room sound larger and optimize DAAD to the room and placement.
@alessandrobonicalzi1394 Жыл бұрын
The Acustica Applicata devices on the front wall are the DAAD 4, on the side walls the DAAD 3. They are still for sale.
@Chrisspru Жыл бұрын
i have an insulation layer in my floor, with thin wood tiling on top and a full room fluffy carpet. the acoustic dampening of that is great, though i have to add weight to my speakers as the floor is springy. my rooms ceiling has foam insulation tiles as well, which make for surprisingly good abfusers. plants in the corners and bookshelves look nice and help sound too. the main difficulty was removing an equidistant triangle between two brick walls and my window (caused standing waves): i fixed it by adding head cushions to the sofa beneath one wall and adding some nice extra curtains to my window. this broke up the standing waves. i also have thick curtains in the rooms doors, so i can keep the sound inside and the doors from vibrating and reflecting. and its quite a cozy room. so invisible treatment is definetly possible.
@marcocarrara2115 Жыл бұрын
The mid bass coupler was a great idea, for a passive speaker. Arnie looked like a very funny guy. Mono. Tunable.
@brianthomas486 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful room. Love the treatments.
@Skebetine Жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful and informative video. Thank you!
@kentcurrie7326 Жыл бұрын
I visited PS Audio when the music rooms were under construction. It is time to make another to Boulder. (It is just a little over 50 miles from where I live.)
@hanspieter5558 Жыл бұрын
I think the sound will sound fantastic, I have done a lot myself to make my room acoustic and it helps😃🎸
@doylewayne3940 Жыл бұрын
OMG Paul, thats crazy in my humble opinion 🙄😳🤠 thanks Paul ;-))
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
HOPE TO HEAR 👂 THEM SOMEDAY 🤗💚💚💚
@chadbarker3564 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul.
@leekumiega9268 Жыл бұрын
While most speakers benefit from room treatments that can be expensive the Ohm Walsh series speakers work best without room treatments , it's the side and rear reflections that give them such a wide and deep sound stage.
@Harald_Reindl Жыл бұрын
In other words they are crap and miss the Fi in HiFi
@krevilplays Жыл бұрын
It's funny how PPL say that sub is not good for music. It's actually your room that is not good for a sub! Do some treatment and see magic happen.
@AnimusInvidious Жыл бұрын
Diffusers are awesome.
@ToadStool942 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how so many put so much emphasis and faith in aftermarket acoustic treatments. Especially when one of THE most important aspects of building a genuinely musical playback system is determining a superior location for a speaker to mate or acoustically couple with its associated room. Whether or not one employs aftermarket acoustic treatments or even builds a custom room, the final step is always to locate a superior (not just a reasonable) speaker position in its associated room to acheive not only the most musical bass but also the most overall balanced musical presentation. IOW, no matter what else one does/doesn't do to a room, the very last step is always to move the speakers to achieve a superior acoustic coupling with its associated room If that is true (and it is), then exactly how is one able to judge or measure the import of aftermarket acoustic treatments if the speakers have moved after installing the aftermarket treatments? Hence, the following question remains unanswered... Could I have achieved similar or perhaps even better levels of musicality with fewer or even no aftermarket acoustic treatments if I simply spent more time focusing on a genuinely superior speaker location?
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
Mismatched components can have a negative affect. No matter how much room treatment is used. Amplifier’s and speakers can and do have different sound signatures independently of each other as well as other components used in a system. If you have one component doing one thing and another trying to do something else, you can wind up with a conflict battle. 😀
@brianmoore581 Жыл бұрын
Couple of questions: how far away from the speakers are the chairs? And can you make a video on how you made those bass absorbers behind the speakers?
@anthonymaerin4052 Жыл бұрын
But do they sound better than the. IRS 5
@sonikninja Жыл бұрын
Paul, are you using the Rel at the back of the room wirelessly?
@johnloesche9744 Жыл бұрын
Paul, thank you for expanding on your Audiophiles Guide. Would you share if your Rel is connected via high pass? If so, did you modify their famous baseline blue cable due to the long run or perhaps put in a specific Audioquest cable? Thanks.
@broncodisc Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the 3 black diffusers on the front wall between the speakers are a certain brand and model, or homemade? If they're commercially available, what brand and model? Thanks to whoever replies.
@sirtimothyjasonwellsakaelduce Жыл бұрын
Hey Paul is the REL sub in the rear in phase or 180 out ?
@robertmitchell6015 Жыл бұрын
Would like to know the cost of all that treatment
@user-od9iz9cv1w Жыл бұрын
Looks great. How about a video with a sound demo of your new room? John Atkinson did a very nice demonstration of the room with the Infinity speakers. It would be nice to have a sound demo. You could invite one of the KZfaq demo guys to do it such as AVshowreports if you prefer to not do it yourself.
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
Paul can use his iPhone for recording music from that system. The newer iPhone’s have great microphones for recording. That is what Paul uses, his iPhone, with all his videos he records @ 720 p video and the KZfaq audio codec MP4a 40.2. Don’t need a KZfaq Team.😀🙄
@user-od9iz9cv1w Жыл бұрын
@@davidfromamerica1871 Agreed. I use an older Samsung Note 3 to record demos and post on KZfaq. I think it sounds surprisingly good. Today's iPhone must be great.
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
@@user-od9iz9cv1w Newer phone’s have very good microphone’s in them. There is a KZfaq FR30 demo uploaded to KZfaq Paul does not want any to know about.🙃🥺
@atzeotze2256 Жыл бұрын
Is the red element a supersophisticated sonic killer. Where can I buy it.
@bububarx4559 Жыл бұрын
How is the rel connected to the speakers?
@marcbegine Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, could the Aspen FR30 sound even better with the "ISO Acoustics Gaia I"?
@djphiliptan Жыл бұрын
And disco lights, apparently!
@sirtimothyjasonwellsakaelduce Жыл бұрын
No , spot lights
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the Lava Lamps, Red Shag Rug, the hanging Beads and a poster of Janis Joplin hanging on the wall.😎
@milkman100001 Жыл бұрын
so the moral of the story is that sound shaping is key.
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
The moral of the story is: You better have a lot of disposable cash to throw around..😀🙄💰💰💰💰
@Harald_Reindl Жыл бұрын
@@davidfromamerica1871 moron other like expensive cables room acoustics is a game changer
@markusr1715 Жыл бұрын
Imagine spending $30K and you still need a sub.
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
People should understand. That demo room has dramatically altered the sound signature of that entire system in that demo room. That system will not sound the same in your house as it does in that demo room.
@Harald_Reindl Жыл бұрын
Imagine one don't understand that every speaker should have a subwoofer to offload anything below 60 Hz
@jamiehol1895 Жыл бұрын
I can picture Dennis from acoustic fields shaking his head at this
@seanb3303 Жыл бұрын
Just like so much of pro audio shakes their head at Dennis.
@laika25 Жыл бұрын
Paul, I'm just curious... REL? Don't you make a sub or subs? Thanks. Leo from 🇪🇸
@iwan6841 Жыл бұрын
Does room treatment also works for severe form of tinitus..?😂
@finscreenname Жыл бұрын
I have pictures on the walls and furniture so.... I have 3 Amps to power through it all. 😎
@marcbegine Жыл бұрын
I am afraid that the "WAF" is quite low, especially when the Audioroom = Living Room...
@Harald_Reindl Жыл бұрын
Not when you have a brain and do it smart
@LuxAudio389 Жыл бұрын
3:28 I didn't know that a dead voice made a sound 😉💀💐
@samuelmetzger4140 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the model REL?
@geddylee501 Жыл бұрын
It'll be their square one, or cube if you prefer
@jayrev1254 Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s the Predator 1510 but I’m not 100%.
@BruceCross Жыл бұрын
@@jayrev1254 I think you're probably right. The driver and feet aren't visible, but it has a square cabinet, so it's not the Reference Series. It has no glossy black finish on the sides like Serie S and T, nor side handles like Serie S. That only leaves Serie HT (home theater). Knowing Paul, he probably bought the top model.
@marcocarrara2115 Жыл бұрын
Make 1 video with lights off. Please. For today I'm done. Night
@100bsl Жыл бұрын
.... when you have to change the room to make the speakers sound better
@donpayne1040 Жыл бұрын
badass.
@kindnick58 Жыл бұрын
Acoustic Fields
@garyedwards9617 Жыл бұрын
Listeners gunna listen...audiophiles gunna tweak... just saying ;)
@sudd3660 Жыл бұрын
listeners are audiophiles, otherwise they would not care about the audio.
@bryanguest2807 Жыл бұрын
The Chad music enjoyer vs The Virgin audiophile
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
The definition of an Audiophile. 😀 “The World Order” Similar to: “The Knights of the Round Table” 😀 The Kings protectors. 😀
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. Those FR 30’s need lots of breathing room 😀 After all, speakers do inhale and exhale with voice coil motors and excursion. 😀 They are alive thanks to electricity provided by PS Audio Power Conditioning.😀
@terryjefferylee6314 Жыл бұрын
I remember the videos of when you were building these rooms and all the designing that went into getting them right and yet you still need all that treatment to fix them. Seems as though trying to create the perfect room was a waste as it obviously didn't work.
@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Жыл бұрын
I am not certain it was a "waste" because they are good rooms. Just not perfect.
@sirtimothyjasonwellsakaelduce Жыл бұрын
Like anything built to taste you create, then you end up changing things from you base starting point and tweak till you are happy . Obviously you have not explored this in anything you have tried to do . Anyone that says there listing room is perfect is a space cadet and just does not understand the laws of physics with sound . Top notch concert venues put 1000's of hours into the labor and uncontrolled amount of money invested in equipment, if you ever had a chance to go to Universal Amphitheatre in Los Angeles, you would never want to see a band perform anywhere else.
@grumpy9478 Жыл бұрын
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio nothing's perfect... but seeking it is fun.
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
It’s called.. “Acoustic Engineering” With a little online research I was able to find out what Acoustic Engineering company did the Acoustic work in the old NHK Hall Theater in Tokyo. That was one of the first things I noticed when watching a concert on KZfaq from that old theater about 12 years ago was the acoustic’s. NHK Hall is owned by NHK Broadcasting Corporation in Tokyo. For many years that was the home of the Tokyo Symphony Orchestra. NHK now have a new Hall they built.
@terryjefferylee6314 Жыл бұрын
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Sorry if I was a bit harsh but it's not like all that treatment is cheap. All of that said the Aussie government spent an enormous amount of money on the Sydney Opera-house and still had to spend heaps on acoustic treatment. I guess getting it right in the end is what counts PS The comments are just opinions and shouldn't be taken to heart. They are not personal, just opinions.
@stephenstevens6573 Жыл бұрын
Jesus...I can't even imagine what all of that room treatment cost...that and a sub...to make a 30,000.00 speaker system to sound it's best...smh...
@martytoo Жыл бұрын
Not sure what SMH was, so I looked it up and yeah....
@chrisgoodson9312 Жыл бұрын
If that was a domestic situation, you'd also need to add in the cost of the divorce lawyer as well
@sirtimothyjasonwellsakaelduce Жыл бұрын
You obviously do not want a blissful sounding system that does not wear you down , or make you give up interest after a short while of listening. I own 36 speaker systems now and my Miller&Kreisel set up was fine with 2 subs until I got the twitch and bought a 3rd one for the rear of the room and it was a difference that made me wish I would have just boughten 3 at the beginning. Some of you people are just nitpicking and speaking out of not having a care or no exsperiance, or maybe. No money to get the honey , either way , opinions are like buttholes, keep them to yourself and think , learn , get a life , and I'm not going to shame no one about financial situations because I e Ben broke at time in my life and do not judge no one on there wealth , I judge people by there attitude and if they are ignorant in a fashion that points fingers at someone that uses there brain , people that are free thinkers are what I let in my life , so think outside the box and exsperiance life in a way that will make you a happy individual with no boundaries to reflect bad energy back at you from every angle that will eventually annoy you and make you crazy , just like controlling sound , it's a energy that makes or breaks your life exsperiance .
@hanspieter5558 Жыл бұрын
if you are handy you can also do a lot yourself that I have done saves a lot of money😃
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
The same can be said for the one that owns a $20k Rolex Watch as to one that owns a $25.00 Timex Watch. They both keep time..😀🙄😎👍
@Rodarwah Жыл бұрын
🤪 just like home i see
@geddylee501 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you live in a factory 👍
@davidfromamerica1871 Жыл бұрын
@@geddylee501 There are people that now live in a refurbished old factories. There are some that live in old refurbished Churches.👍😎 Condo and Townhome’s..👍🤗😎 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
@djhmax09 Жыл бұрын
If you do it right it's not supposed to sound dead at all, so your panels likely have the wrong rate and level. An acoustician recommending treatment in the corners, you already know that's one inefficient way of doing things.
@Ghost-Matrix Жыл бұрын
Why is Joe BIden emailing in
@sirtimothyjasonwellsakaelduce Жыл бұрын
Because he needs his butt wiped 🤪😂🤣🤺
@mikemcguinness1304 Жыл бұрын
Paul , your video really was Useless. First tell us the room dimensions, then try to remember the room modes that were bothering you . And how did you make those corner traps