Psychosis: Our Default Mental State?

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2 жыл бұрын

Psychosis is a mental state where people experience a 'different' world. If, as clinical psychiatry and neuroscience suggests, it is our 'default mental state' why isn't everyone psychotic? Psychosis does not arise de novo; external sensory input and cognition actively inhibit its expression. It is important to understand: how thin the boundary is between sanity and madness and what leads from one to the other; and to appreciate the frailty of rational thought.
A lecture by Peter Woodruff
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@FrancoisMouton-iu7jt 6 ай бұрын

Psychosis in most instances is a dissolution of the ego- consciousness and the unconscious therefore takes over. This occurs when the ego is disfunctional due to repressed trauma and the psychosis is a way for the ego to break down and reconstitute itself as a more functional entity. Thus instead of seeing psychosis as a disease it should be treated and appreciated as the psyche healing itself.

@tauresattauresa7137 6 ай бұрын

For some people it never goes away. Because they do not know they have it and thus, do not seek treatment.

@andrew7008 28 күн бұрын

Gotta love the bullshittery of psychoanalysis

@minaaris 2 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly embrace this talk and I think that more people need to be made aware of this perspective but saying that the default mode of the brain is psychotic in the absence of certain stimuli, is like saying the default mode of life is death in the absence of oxygen. But this is still a very valuable perspective because it shows us how incredible fragile the human mind can be, but at the same time also extraordinarily resilient.

@PirateRadioPodcasts Жыл бұрын

CONFUSION (Delusion)

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

Our default state is spiritual without reference to time. Physical experience needs a bunch of processing. Psychosis is raw unprocessed direct link to spiritual world. Western world denies our true reality and does not train like Shaman. Some of us have NO trouble in this state at all and embrace it 24/7, 365 days a year.

@lukewalden2134 Жыл бұрын

Phenomenal take

@frankbauer1397 2 жыл бұрын

In a world in which utter destruction looms, the mind that can block out this truth, is irrational.

@NoPrivateProperty 2 жыл бұрын

the potential of destruction has always been. it is only one's consciousness of potential threats which varies

@KristiContemplates 2 жыл бұрын

As fmr physiology PhD candidate and current grad dip psychology student (hopefully future neuroscience PhD candidate) I'd like to explore an idea I have that psychosis is a form of dream-disorder, and that psychotic episodes are dysfunctional dreams occuring when seemingly awake and interactive. Given the glymphatic system kicks in during REM sleep, and inability to sleep properly is an early warning sign of psychosis and (hypo)mania, it seems a logical theory to explore. I'm hoping that I'll be accepted and supported as a PhD candidate that can explore this idea 🤞

@KristiContemplates 2 жыл бұрын

Okay, the observations that give rise to the saturation hypothesis, could also be considered as supportive of my dream-disorder theory. Some people are intellectually aware of their psychosis is psychosis while they're experiencing psychosis, as some people are aware they're dreaming while they're dreaming. Doesn't mean you can control everything in your dream, nor would someone be able to control their psychosis.

@AuntyEsther 2 жыл бұрын

Given the REM rebound that occurs after insomnia, results in nightmares, the psychotic state which occurs when people haven't had the normal amount of sleep over a time could well be due to the brain having nightmares whilst awake. Anyone can be made to hallucinate if they are prevented from sleeping properly for long enough, this is why lack of sleep is a torture tactic.

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

Hint: Psychosis is not a disorder. (Read some of my other comments). We are spirits in physical body. True psychology heals the spirit. $DSM$ and $Psychiatry$ and $Big Pharma$ ARE disorders because they harm humanity.

@VigiliusHaufniensis 9 ай бұрын

@@KristiContemplateswell aren't psychodynamic schools claiming that psychosis is a dream like cognition (closer to primary process thinking) for ever?

@dimbulb23 2 жыл бұрын

I live in Florida. I'm up on mental states.

@wanderingbiku451 2 жыл бұрын

I know how thin the line between 'sanity and madness' is. My default social setting is that of isolation being easily overwhelmed stimulation (too many people, too much noise, too much going on). This has led to walking that thin line between 'my reality and their reality' when I often lack the interaction with other people. Interesting lecture.

@PirateRadioPodcasts Жыл бұрын

CONFUSION (Delusion)

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

Physical sensory input drowns out input from spiritual world. We are spirits in physical body (includes all life forms). Default for all life forms is spiritual.

@agnosticevolutionist3567 11 ай бұрын

Same here

@avelione 9 ай бұрын

you just may be autistic :)

@dansheppard2965 Жыл бұрын

I used to live next to a busy road. When I realised how it sounded just like the sea on holiday it made it much easier to get to sleep.

@jewishgenes 4 ай бұрын

Deep

@TM-rk5dj 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating perspective and completely engaging. Thank you 😊

@kekionw935 2 жыл бұрын

I suffered with this for 2 years after catching C-19. I thought I was losing control. Until I turned on my fear , slayed it, and buried it in its blood.

@ljohnson7124 2 жыл бұрын

This makes sense and helps explains why there are so many inhibitory functions, it must have taken time for cognition to structure itself

@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын

1st class Content. Liked and shared and much enjoyed. Thanks, Gresham!

@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын

That's my state of being-hyperalert, every sense straining for data, my mind running on barely perceived queues, following traces of what might be. I call myself and others with the same default chemistry "ferals", because we are.

@ronalddeveau6755 2 жыл бұрын

From beginning to end, thank you very much. 🍁😎

@pjviitas 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful presentation

@matthewkelly2399 2 жыл бұрын

This is fabulous content.

@TimothyKirkby 5 ай бұрын

As someone who's had multiple psychotic episodes this was very insightful. Thanks for sharing this

@BlergleslinkVettermoo 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation!

@KristiContemplates 2 жыл бұрын

Man believes two types of lie. That he wants to be true, and that he fears to be true.

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

I am shocked how science continues to DENY who we really are! We are spirits in a physical body. Our spirit DIRECTLY interfaces to the spiritual world (takes little energy to do so). Our spirit has to INDIRECTLY interface to our physical body (ESP, PK, so on) which requires translation, projection of time (spirit world lacks time), assumptions, mappings, so on (takes A LOT of energy to do so). Our default state is spiritual. We are spiritual beings. Western world thinks in MATERIALIST TERMS ONLY. Our body is just a DEVICE for us to experience the physical world which is NOT native to us (we as spirit).

@Mrodriguez231 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating! I seem to be rather robust against hallucinations, but not against paranoia.

@jewishgenes 4 ай бұрын

Paranoia is survival.

@capricrone3537 5 ай бұрын

George Atwood mentioned that psychosis is a descent into the subconscious mind. We all have a subconscious mind... one could say someone in psychosis is in a continual waking dream- usually a nightmare

@davidjohnzenocollins 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to know I'm more psycho than the rest of you, considering I've had two auditory hallucinations. Like he said, it sounded exactly as if someone was speaking to me from ten feet in the air.

@modernarchive7502 2 жыл бұрын

Just once, as I was falling asleep. I heard my mother say my name.

@AuntyEsther 2 жыл бұрын

@@modernarchive7502 Hypnagogic illusions.

@docastrov9013 2 жыл бұрын

@@AuntyEsther If we need the rest of the world to block out psychosis how do we know which is real and which is not?

@davidjohnzenocollins 2 жыл бұрын

@@AuntyEsther Naming it doesn't explain it, of course.

@krzysztofkolodziejczyk4335 2 жыл бұрын

Veritasium made a video when he locked himself in sensory deprivation room. He got nothing. And honestly it's very hard to belive in people going nuts after only 25 minutes.

@JacobPlat 2 жыл бұрын

No.

@studiocampagnoli9138 2 жыл бұрын

Old ideas (Julian Jaynes' bicameral mind for example) and so pompously expressed.

@zakatista5246 8 ай бұрын

At 50 I realize that people are just impenetrable. I don’t bother trying anymore.

@jewishgenes 4 ай бұрын

With empathy, they are not.

@raginald7mars408 2 жыл бұрын

as a German Biologist and Pythagorean - I see “Psychosis” as hyper alertness - exaggerating sensory input almost like an “allergy”. To imagine more than we perceive. As a sort of Ultra defense against an overwhelming encounter. This may show some aspects of Caesarean Madness - when a Leader becomes paranoiac, psychotic - and vastly exaggerates in his actions. Like right now with new Wars - for no reason ever. The wise founders of SPQR and res publica Romanum tried to prevent that with their excellent constitution. Until the Mad Man Caesar destroyed it. We are right there again...

@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын

@ljohnson7124 2 жыл бұрын

profound point

@krzysztofkolodziejczyk4335 2 жыл бұрын

If you are real biologist, then i am the queen of Mars

@docastrov9013 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Demented buffoon Biden in the White House.

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

@themise1416 2 жыл бұрын

R.I.P BRIAN CHARNLEY

@alhesiad 2 жыл бұрын

He talks like Agent Smith from The Matrix

@aaaaaa-qn8ol 2 жыл бұрын

What's going on with the audience questions?? Was this event overtaken by a bunch of loonies?

@kronostin 2 жыл бұрын

The default mental state kicked in 😉

@PirateRadioPodcasts Жыл бұрын

CONFUSION (Delusion)

@KristiContemplates 2 жыл бұрын

Sensory deprivation - forced meditation (?)

@bgalbreath 2 жыл бұрын

And meditation = sensory deprivation under voluntary control?

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

Physical sensory input drowns out input from spiritual world. We are spirits in physical body (includes all life forms). Default for all life forms is spiritual.

@clausdamsgaard 9 ай бұрын

Being called crazy with the exact content as only abstractions means people better not say that. Repeating again and again over the years, one will eventually accept, that people want you to be "crazy". It would be unlikely that people thought you were sane, none the less, being crazy is much more unlikely.

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

Your spirit also accesses your senses (hearing, sight, so on) REMOTELY (it is the ONLY way this works). And so can other spirits! Again, this has been done for centuries! Nothing new here.

@keithklassen5320 Жыл бұрын

I find this talk frustrating because 12 minutes into it, he is still exhaustively describing the basic symptoms of psychosis, as tho these are not things that are quite familiar to most adults. It doesn't seem useful to the point of his talk, or at least to the point that is implied by the title. Perhaps the title is poorly chosen by someone other than the speaker?

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

Yes our physical brain reacts to external commands ALWAYS! Your spirit commands your brain. Your spirit makes the decisions! An attached spirit can ALSO influence your spirit or command your body too! Your body is REMOTELY CONTROLLED by your or other spirits. This has been known for centuries. This is not new info!

@bsxanco Жыл бұрын

@docastrov9013 2 жыл бұрын

The artist is psychotic but copyrights his work?

@afifahhamilton8843 2 жыл бұрын

This video may be a form of gaslighting in itself. I've skipped over some parts, but the woman supposedly saying 'ba ba' is saying no such thing. We can see that her lips do not meet, so she isn't saying 'ba ba', is she? She's saying 'da da' or 'thar thar' but not 'bar bar' as the speaker states. I also do not agree that female voices are taken notice of more than men's voices. Indeed I know this is a false statement. Teachers are usually female, these days, but when a man enters a school and speaks, he is attended to more closely than women are. A man's voice carries more power, because a man has more power, in his natural physiology. What is Gresham College trying to do here?

@woongah 2 жыл бұрын

Ominid tribes who disregarded protecting their women when these cried for help produced less offspring, and thus had less warriors to compete with other tribes that protected better their reproductive resources major bottleneck. As such, it would make sense that a woman's voice activated more our brains, at a basic level. Then, as soon as our brains realize it is not a cry for help, I suspect that culture takes the lead in deciding how much attention do we give to the speaker. Personally, I fall completely into the illusion. With closed eyes I clearly hear "ba", seeing her mouth moving I hear "da". Years ago, when I watched almost only dubbed japanese cartoons, I wasn't falling for it. Dr Who was my perdition, thusly.

@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын

The sound you hear in the video of the woman is probably just overlayed. They film the woman saying "da da" and record her saying "ba ba" and put it together. The point they are making is, that the sensory input of your eyes influences what you think you hear.

@futures2247 3 ай бұрын

psychiatry is a dangerous embarrassment.

@frankdelahue9761 3 ай бұрын

Humans are not in touch reality anyway, because our senses are severely limited. For example we only see tiny part of electromagnetic spectrum, visible light, but we can't see X-rays or gamma rays or UV radiation and we can hear tiny part of audio spectrum, frequencies between 50 and 20 khz, while there are microphones that can sense up to 100khz and hyper spectral camera that can see up to 100 bands. Most of reality is hidden from us.

@dexterdextrow7248 2 жыл бұрын

This lecture is frankly straddling very close to just being a load of mumbojumbo.

@afifahhamilton8843 2 жыл бұрын

I tend to agree. This man's voice is the type that we Brits have been provided with all our lives, as the sort that is correct and worth attending to. This in itself is a manoeuvre; a manipulation (potentially). All a nefarious player needs, is the correct style of speech in order to move people to do things they would not do, if they had not been 'hypnotised' by the speakers speaking style. I'll use the example of Justin Trudeau for my claim. There are bound to be many others. Political ponerology anyone?

@docastrov9013 2 жыл бұрын

@@afifahhamilton8843 Yeah, it would be funny if it turned out he was a patient who escaped and posed as a psychiatrist.

@afifahhamilton8843 2 жыл бұрын

@@docastrov9013 Yes! I love it. Let's go with that interpretation.

@ronlentjes2739 Жыл бұрын

@bazsnell3178 2 жыл бұрын

He failed absolutely miserably at the very last question from the audience member. 'Waffle, waffle, waffle.' Couldn't explain why so-called Psychiatry is any different from any other pseudoscience. Come on Gresham, your audience deserves more than this rubbish!

@keithklassen5320 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think you've correctly characterized the last question, but I did also find his ability to answer (and even to understand) the last two questions to be quite disappointing.