(PT. 1) How bad is the most hated scooter on the internet? Living with at Tao Tao

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4 жыл бұрын

In my experience working as a technician in independent motorcycle shops I worked on everything from CVO Harley Davidsons to Honda CT90s. But there was one bike that always stood out with exceptionally poor quality. The Tao Tao 50cc GY6 (139QMB) scooter. And now I'm going to put this scooter to the test and find out if they really are little money pits, or if the issues with the bike are a result of the people who buy these kinds of scooters.
So I purchased a Tao Tao "Pony" ATM 50 and my plan is to make it my main means of transportation for 6 months. Yes from June 1st to January 1st this little scooter is going to be my daily driver. I'll be logging all of the miles, issues and expenses of keeping this scooter running in a log. Doing this will allow me to present a true cost of ownership at the end of this experiment.
The Tao Tao Pony 50 is based on the generic GY6 139QMB platform. They were sold under many different "Brand" names like Wolf, Bintelli, Fly, Rocketa, MotoBravo and Dongfang just to name a few. You may be riding one and not even know it!
Follow my experiment in real time! Here is a link to my Tao Tao log/Health Report!
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
If you need to replace your sparkplug use the NGK CR7HSA: scooter911.com/shop/ngk-cr7hs...
If you want to keep up with this project between videos be sure to follow me on social media!
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@four81
@four81 4 жыл бұрын
The hardest thing about working on a Tao Tao in my experience is dealing with the people who own them. Typically because they ride them into the ground and then wonder why the bike is broken. When the repair bill is half of what the thing cost new, well you can guess what the conversation is like. It will go the distance with proper upkeep! That said, Garret you're a brave man to ride it on the streets of Austin! Haha! I dare you to ride it up to Waco to see the shop. :P
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha challenge accepted! I did just ride it to Georgetown so I wasn't too far off
@Joshuawelds
@Joshuawelds 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my Lance Venice 150cc gy6 scooter for 100 dollars because the owner dint want to "fix" it. All it needed was a new starter solenoid and a better chassis ground to keep the battery charging every ride. That's it. Took me 3 hours to diagnose, repair and assemble everything that was wrong with it including a full tune up.
@brentlybaird4974
@brentlybaird4974 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Z Where do you get a Lance Venice 150cc Scooter from
@derekr3895
@derekr3895 4 жыл бұрын
Bought a GY6 "Wolf" scooter for $100. PO "Couldn't get it to run." Of course it was a nice lime green, but he painted it solid black with the shittiest, cheapest black spraypaint I have EVER seen. The dollar tree wouldn't sell this garbage. Cleaned the jet and replaced the CDI + stator for like $30? Scoot runs perfectly fine now. So many people buy scooters and bikes alike then do exactly as you say - run them into the ground then bitch about them not working. It really is a phenomena, but I guess their loss is our gain? I don't know. Every time the subject comes up on reddit all of the users, that of course have never EVER owned a chinese 2 wheeled vehicle, are quick to talk shit and dismiss these little machines, when in reality they are often fine. I just recommend that the potential owners research to make sure they can get parts and to let it rip. If you can afford a $500 scooter, but not a $3000 honda scooter why would I recommend the $3000 one to you?
@jseden
@jseden 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Ive put a lot of miles on taotaos and only had one real failure which was my fault (new filter, knew it was super lean and thought i could get to work before rejetting) it cost $80 and an afternoon to fix.. if you’ve got the slightest bit of mechanical inclination, these things can rock!
@larryhaire7084
@larryhaire7084 4 жыл бұрын
I was the r+l driver who delivered the scooter..just trying to keep up with the ride and journey
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Dude! Thanks for checking in!
@paulshamblin6260
@paulshamblin6260 4 жыл бұрын
I see one of these on a big truck for riding on off time all over the country. Maybe on the catwalk.
@brandonboulton2776
@brandonboulton2776 4 жыл бұрын
Now that's follow up!!!😂👍
@Jflames23
@Jflames23 2 жыл бұрын
🔥 📛 👨‍🚒
@JamesAllmond
@JamesAllmond 4 жыл бұрын
I ride Urals, it would be rude to point out the problems of others whilst living in a glass house...
@MrPaige222
@MrPaige222 4 жыл бұрын
JamesAllmond They should have called them urinals.......
@sidecarcn
@sidecarcn 4 жыл бұрын
Urals are comical. If you can find one from the 60s or one made in the Soviet era. they are much better and the ones than were manufactured after 1991.
@yigitalpalakoc
@yigitalpalakoc 3 жыл бұрын
Look for a Dnepr K750. They are much better built than new Urals
@mattparker9726
@mattparker9726 3 жыл бұрын
Is motorcycle, drives. What more you want?
@tomstewart440
@tomstewart440 4 жыл бұрын
I see a Top-Gear scooter challenge in your future.
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Bring it on!!!!!!
@TheirsHopewithJesusChrist_277
@TheirsHopewithJesusChrist_277 21 күн бұрын
Yea let's do it :)​@@Scooter_911
@gabehodges1088
@gabehodges1088 4 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to watching this series. Great work man!!
@steveberube966
@steveberube966 11 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your video series , the level of detail is fantastic. Learned a ton!
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Marshallmusik
@Marshallmusik 4 жыл бұрын
I just got given one of these little things and its so funny that you are starting this project. My plan is to get it up and running again and trouble shoot it. Perfect timing. Thanks for all the great videos and advice!
@markchase7419
@markchase7419 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 2019 Tao Tao ATM 50cc Pony. (white) I've had it 7 months...change the spark plug, oil and adjust idle to specs, gear oil and it runs pretty darn good. top speed 28-35 (light head wind) downhill it hits 40 to 50 MPH. keep brakes adjusted to specs....decent transportation. PLUS DO NOT over tighten screws n bolts, the metal is soft and its easy to strip threads.
@marineboy4181
@marineboy4181 3 жыл бұрын
LOL what do they think is going to be like they're buying a cheap scooter and most of them don't even modify it out they think they can just buy a cheap $700 scooter and not put money into it I just saw your comment sorry for the late reply on it I normally watch this video a lot cuz I own me a TaoTao 2013 what is my main vehicle for now I might get me a go-kart next time by my homeboy one Coleman go kart are there pretty good might get me one too but anyways I pretty much swiped out everything put t he biggest Bore Kit that you can possibly get for a 50CC and 93 CC from Rolling wrench Denver and I'm still modded it out and it's not finished yet I'm going to put a nitrous can on it these bikes aren't as bad as people say or claim is just people want to buy a cheap bike and don't want to do what they have to do to make it better than the more expensive bikes if you take out all the crappy cheap parts out of it it would be reliable you can expect to keep buying cheap parts for it is a cheap scooter and think it's going to last that's ridiculous
@rockwithmoss1901
@rockwithmoss1901 4 жыл бұрын
I expected my 49cc peace scooter to fall apart fast but it kept going - despite needing 1 drive belt, 1 cdi, 1 headlight socket, 1 new sparkplug, a couple of light bulbs (front and rear), 2 batteries and 2 rear tires it has make it to 14,074 miles. I do change the oil and rear end fluid every 1000 miles. And I am a big and fat person but it still enjoys going 38 to 42 mph despite all the plastics cracking and falling apart. And I have never done a valve adjustment. Had a oil leak at 5000 and added some goo from a dollar store to the motor oil and now no dripping. Go figure...
@ethicswheels1
@ethicswheels1 4 жыл бұрын
I too have a Peace Sport 50cc .. I picked it up in 2006.. Has about 49,000 miles on it... It's not 50cc no more upgraded everything on the engine to the electronics..Now it's 94.6 cc .... it's my baby .. hah.. Goes about 55-60mph at full throttle.. Hell of alot easier now to merge into traffic anywhere..
@mr.esfusioncollect8494
@mr.esfusioncollect8494 4 жыл бұрын
@@ethicswheels1 49,000 miles is incredible. How much have you spent on parts?
@superseriousreviews1168
@superseriousreviews1168 4 жыл бұрын
Also, My first scooter, a variant of the taotao lived to 14,500km, with a bore kit installed at 7,200km, 13 year old me took very good care of it, I changed the oil every 500 miles and set the valves every 2k, and gear oil every 3-5k, I was also very intense about making sure the bike was jetted correctly. I think yours has the potential to go even further as i bought mine at 7,000 km in very neglected shape and because the bore kits are known to strain the crankshaft quite badly.
@verlelammey8644
@verlelammey8644 Жыл бұрын
Bull shit you can get a new one and it doesn't go 30 mph and if you have to take it up hill top speed kills you at 25 maph and you ass holed from behind
@waynebo06
@waynebo06 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Will be watching your experiences.
@gt-rg3rw
@gt-rg3rw 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned one for 4 years straight now. At its original engine it fell apart due to lack of oil (my own fault). At around 35 000 kilometers (convert it, i'm bad at it). Bought a "new" engine with 1200 km's driven for 40$ and replaced it with a friend in half an hour. Since then i did more than 10 000kms with it. Hard and long drives wheather it was -7 celsius outside or +40 in summer here in Croatia. Last week was on a roadtrip with it and drove it for 3 hours straight without stopping. Did 181 kilometers in one direction. Only bad thing about it is the bad quality of the replacement belt. If you spend and extra 20$ on a malossi belt it will hold on for a year and a half (last one lasted that long) From my opinion and 4 year ownership i can tell you one thing - wouldn't sell it for nothing. Best scooter ever. Just fill the fuel and go whereever you want to. And for the service, every 1000 kilometers i change the oil and every now and then i change some broken zipties that hold it together. Those who say bad things about it never owned one or never took a bit of care for them. Anyway i will never give up on mine, and even if it breaks down on me (it probably won't) i can replace the whole engine for 40$ and keep on driving it for the next 40000 kms I absolutely love it :)
@Sigurty
@Sigurty 4 жыл бұрын
you're a smart investor. you make us subscribe to you to follow you're story. i respect it
@Toongeek45
@Toongeek45 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent timing! I'm considering getting one of these after getting my driver's license. Right now, this scooter is at the top of my list! This way, I can get an idea how it runs before buying!
@haileylvndrkittnz9721
@haileylvndrkittnz9721 4 жыл бұрын
I been driving one everyday for 4 years and been working on it myself and I’ve got 50,000 on mine so I think it’s user error. It’s a piece of shit but it’s got me there
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! THATS INCREDIBLE!!!
@SegaDisneyUniverse
@SegaDisneyUniverse 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you luck on this challenge! Also make sure not to get it stolen! I currently have a Tao Tao Evo 50 (and is currently my only mode of transportation), bought it from my local dealer for $1,100 on August 2019. This was also my first Tao Tao scooter, as I was dealing with Peace Sports scooters for a while. From my experience within the first 1,700 miles I've don so far, I haven't faced any catastrophic failures (yet), the only thing that happened to me so far was getting caught in pouring rain and water ended up in my air intake and carburetor, which caused my scooter to act funny. 2 days after I went to do my daily routines and ended up having to walk it home because my scooter didn't start up and when I tried to kick start it, the crank piece chipped on me and I barely used it! Had to spend $80 on a whole new assembly! On top of that, I accidentally tipped over my scooter and my throttle broke off, had to spend another $80 fixing my issues! Other than that, no other problems yet! I keep up with matinence and take care of my scooter. Also, I do notice that after all the years that I've owned Chinese scooters, is what usually wares out first is the light bulbs, regulator, and battery. My scooters tend to rust quickly since I unfortunately don't have a garage to keep it in, and some other parts do tend to ware out quickly due to being outside all the time constantly exposed to the elements. And now that you mention it, you're right about the tires lasting longer than the engine, but I think it depends on the rider. I had to replace a tire on one of my scooters due to a flat, and the engines can last forever if you take care of it and not do any modifications. Oh and let's not forget the brakes! I never had to replace any break pads in my life!
@highdesertbiker
@highdesertbiker 4 жыл бұрын
awesome dude! I love how you go over everything and hit all the key points when checking out a good scooter. I heard these are trash so I got an Kymco but Im very curious to see what will happen when you actually take care of those cheap ones. good luck! Ill def stay tuned
@FerraDubrinsky
@FerraDubrinsky 3 ай бұрын
i am getting a Tao Tao 50. so glad to watch your video and learn some of the things that can go wrong and possibly how to fix them. also saw on the Tao Tao Log you have resurrected the pony. hope you do another video on it soon!
@JOJOBEAST45
@JOJOBEAST45 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 50cc tao tao 2019 made alot of money postmating on it got rained on and stuff but kept up with the maintenance myself. Had no problems. Had 6800 miles before i traded it for a 2020 vip tao tao a few weeks ago. Take care of the scooter it will take care of you.
@hammond2600
@hammond2600 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with ALL scooters imported from China is, the quality (or lack of) of the parts and materials used. If you live in China and buy a scooter locally, you can be assured that it will last for many years because they use the highest grade parts and materials available. However, the scooters they export are much lower quality. I read a report a few years ago, about a customer that purchased a new Chinese made scooter and didn't even make if off of the lot before the rear axle broke in half. When they pulled it apart to inspect it, they found that the axle was completely rusted through. They also found rust on the frame UNDER the paint!
@1tonysgarage
@1tonysgarage 4 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to see what happens
@jalalmaache573
@jalalmaache573 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million for this video.I just bought 1 a month ago.A real Nightmare!!mn 750 miles it won't start. Battery keeps draining 😩. Just two days ago exactly on 1500 miles the muffler completely fell down! Can't wait to hear your experience Thanks again.
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
We're going to find out here soon!
@claires7240
@claires7240 4 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious! Can't wait to follow along! 🤩
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! it should be exciting!
@tishie42
@tishie42 Жыл бұрын
I'm about to do this type of adventure in Yuma AZ on a BMS Chelsea 150cc that has 8 miles on it. It's a little Chinese thing as well. It was bought last year by a friend of mine and has only been run monthly around the block. This whole series and your other repair series is super helpful. I'm going to have spare parts and tools that will help before I even have to do the first maintenance on it. I'm expecting to replace everything systematically and I'm excited to do it myself. If nothing else,to learn how.Only ever worked on cars and trucks before. This will be a fun mode of transportation and a fun hobby.. I know this is years late,but thank you.
@urbanprospecting
@urbanprospecting 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned a few of these over the years. the last one I purchased used was a 2018 with 100 miles on it. I sold it this month for the same money as I paid. I put 9200 miles on it in the year I owned it. I replaced the rear tire, carb, variator and weights, drive belt a few times & headlight bulb. I changed the oil about every 1000 to 1200 miles and I had to adjust the valves once. I only ran 91 octane fuel in it. Now that it had 9300 miles on it I figure it was time to sell before it declines. I purchased a new TGB scooter to replace it. TGB scooters are a world above tao tao's . With a tao tao pony you can expect to replace the odometer cable, rear tires, carb, headlight bulbs, variator, variator weights and drive belts. One good thing is parts for these bikes are easy to find and cheap.
@chadschrum1306
@chadschrum1306 4 жыл бұрын
I watch reviews on mountain bikes a lot an motorcycles all they do is ride them just a little I like this cause you are to do a long term review
@MassiveTrackHunter
@MassiveTrackHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Tao Tao should pay attention to this comment from a bike tech, regarding Chinese scooters: "I have never seen a tire outlast a motor" That is a stunning comment, to someone who has worn out many tires on a '79 Motobecane Moby and later on many motorcycles over the years.
@geralddavis2378
@geralddavis2378 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God for you I'm trying to fix mine right now
@sidecarcn
@sidecarcn 4 жыл бұрын
You poor boy. We have had two of these come to our shop in the last year or so. All with problems around 2500 to 3000km on the clock. And thats assuming the clock is correct. Back in March we got a phone call from someone asking if we could fix the one they have. I suggested to them, they should contact someone else as I don't feel right taking money and repairing something that will have another issue in few weeks. Well we did hear from them again in May asking if we would give any trade in if they were to buy a new one from us. he said he had checked around and the most he was offered was 50 Euros. I told him I won't buy it back as I won't resell it. He did eventually buy a Yamaha and sold Tao Tao off as scrap.
@kaloosh2639
@kaloosh2639 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man this gonna be pretty cool,you actually make me maybe want to buy one😂👍
@miketayse
@miketayse 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your experiment, I have a Piaggio Liberty 150.
@juangooseman
@juangooseman 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for you I actually own a TaoTao and I wish your video would have been out by the time I had bought it but it's not that far is only a year old I just finished watching your first video the reason why I'm really excited because my TaoTao is starting to give you some trouble every time I'm putting gas and I hope to see you that once you cut off to that point I wonder what the trouble is or what I can do to fix it I love your channel thanks
@joeMW284
@joeMW284 4 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine got a 2016 tao tao 50 for free recently. It only had 100mi on the clock! The original owner gave up on it when it wouldn't idle. Cleaned the pilot jet and away we go! The plastics on this thing are so cheap, but it's fundementally not bad - at least for now. Does over 30 pretty easily.
@stud71xxx
@stud71xxx 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have a boom 50 cc scooter cant wait to go with you on this journey
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE
@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE 4 жыл бұрын
i have SMC NAF - originally 50cc air cooled chinese scooter being minarelli copy. i put in 70cc kit with carb and exhaust and i've been driving it to the ground for 3 years without a single issue. I changed tires but only because they were old. This little thing is super reliable and says everyone who owns one.
@mjordan812
@mjordan812 4 жыл бұрын
Not scooter related - but I got a memory rush from seeing your Pinto. A 1971 Pinto was the first (and only) new car that I have ever bought. It had the German 2.0 liter 4. Loved that car.
@gerokron3412
@gerokron3412 4 жыл бұрын
I just can´t stop laughing. Great idea, but you´re in for a challenge, mate. Repairing almost every vehicle from China is usually uncomfortable to say the least. Good luck, you´re gonna need it!
@Blurredman
@Blurredman 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting idea..! And look forward to your journey. At one point, myself and some friends had been playing around with the idea of something similar a few years back.. Buying supermarket scooters in Morocco after taking an aeroplane there, and then riding them back to Britain... Never actually did it though :\
@skrotis9737
@skrotis9737 4 жыл бұрын
I had one of those when I was 15. That moped was legit the best one I ever had. Mine was running hot but found the restriction in the intake and it started to run fine. Never really did any service on it and ran strong like 8000km then I put a 52mm bigbore with a 24mm carb on the original crank. Did about 2000km more then sold it. Still works to this day and I sold it 2 years ago. Only thing that broke was the plastic they just fell off. And it would not fit back together, just ran it naked after that
@thelonewolfesoldier
@thelonewolfesoldier 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all that you do. I remember when I was in highschool and tried to daily one of these but didn't really have the know how and money to keep it going. I currently ride a gy6 150cc. Maybe after the 50 you try a 150 I have seen bald tires on some of the ones I've come across. Maybe the owners are just more responsible or maybe the motors are just more understressed. Anyway good luck on the challenge. I'll be out here riding mine on the west coast hopefully until January (it just got a new motor at around 4k but the old one isn't super worn out just exhaust manifold stud and a difficult to reach gasket. it has a bbk in it's future)
@sundial6919
@sundial6919 2 жыл бұрын
I put 7k miles on my 2019 gator 150cc so far starting to leak oil from front of engine but runs strong as ever . Hope to get 20k out of the stock engine ** maybe cause i change oil every 500 miles has made the engine live so long
@thelagmeister
@thelagmeister 4 жыл бұрын
Get a Kevlar belt. MUST HAVE extra fuses( the in-line one off the battery)Buy a set of roller weights I suggest 5.5 gram sliders. Loctite everything. Get a LED tail light. Get a caliper lock they are cheap. Remote starters/alarms are cheap and fun also plug and play. Don't bother with a big bore kit. It WILL drop a valve. Windshields are nice for long term use.
@josephbeattie5525
@josephbeattie5525 4 жыл бұрын
You were very thorough in your assembly of that thing. I'll bet its a good scooter for you. I spend a lot of time in China and SE Asia. They are very good scooters over there. Not the best, but very good.
@MitchsScooterStuff
@MitchsScooterStuff 4 жыл бұрын
There are so so so many tao tao here in Hawaii... they are falling apart and get very bad sun damage... poor quality ... what you are doing in this video... that's awesome idea!!!
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thats high praise from a fellow scoot-tuber! I love your channel!
@Ethan.s..
@Ethan.s.. 4 жыл бұрын
This exact same bike was being sold on eBay out of Texas back in 2010, $650 shipped. I bought one. Front disc brake locked up very earlier on, later the exhaust did fall off.
@stephangrabetz1922
@stephangrabetz1922 3 жыл бұрын
You are my new favorite scooter guy 😂
@Joshuawelds
@Joshuawelds 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned a 150cc Gy6 Chinese scooter for about 5 months now and I love it. The biggest regret I have with It is that i weigh almost 300 pounds so subsequently I'm keeping it from reaching 60mph, that and the front brake is kind of weak. Tuning and shimming the variator is an absolute must if you want more power out of it.
@HD-Gaming-Zero-Them-Down
@HD-Gaming-Zero-Them-Down 10 ай бұрын
I have a TaoTao I bought for 625 dollars couple years back. Still works so I'm happy with it. If it breaks I don't mind it I did buy it for 625 dollars.
@johnduncan9681
@johnduncan9681 3 жыл бұрын
My son got 11k out his first Pony 50. Had to replace the carburetor, rear tire, two belts, kick start gear, electric starter and multiple headlight bulbs. Muffler welds broke around 5k, Entire exhaust broke off around 8k. Changing oil every 1k miles was only regular maintenance. Finally died of bad variator and clutch. Not worth fixing by then. He replaced with a 2019 Pony 50 and it has been THE biggest pile of crap. Bad carb, electrical issues of every kind and breaking belts left and right. Just sitting and collecting dirt now.
@UwuprincessTW
@UwuprincessTW 4 жыл бұрын
My Tao Tao pony I had was 7 years old when I got it badly abused. After some maintenance like new fuel pump filter carb and starter. I kept up with oil changes and gear oil changes it ran great for about 4400km. It would probably be running great today if it hadn't been stolen. I replaced it with an icebear Aldo 150cc brand new and have put more money and time fixing this one then I did the taotao that was 7 years old at the time. I love taotao.
@carlosdanger2586
@carlosdanger2586 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to subscribe just so I can see this TaoTao review. I want to see if it's worth the effort to keep it going.
@caduceus33
@caduceus33 4 жыл бұрын
This should be very interesting!
@henkjeoma8069
@henkjeoma8069 4 жыл бұрын
I bought myself a Puch zip 50cc 2 stroke for €400 with 9900 miles and I've put a total of 14000 on there in in the last three years without any maintenance at all. I'm only servicing it now because of all those miles. If you really want a cheap scooter I'd recommended a second hand from anything other than a Chinese brand. Although I don't know how many people ride scooters in America but here in Holland there are thousands of them available second hand.
@genelong1748
@genelong1748 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in!! This should be interesting. How about having an oil analysis after each change? Then you'll (we) have a real indication of engine wear and what is wearing the most. This will be interesting.
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
oh dang thats a cool idea. any idea where i can send the oil off to or what that would cost?
@kevinrambo6456
@kevinrambo6456 4 жыл бұрын
First mode of transport I ever got. At the recommendation of the shop I had fuel and vacuum lines swapped out, cdi replaced, and the crappy battery and spark plug too. Of course seeing how I was desperate enough to buy an ATM 50 these were done in short spans of time due to money but I feel it helped give that Chinese bike a decent life span. I got my money's worth and if you do basic upkeep it will run fine. One thing that drove me mad was the wiring issues though... Too many times having headlights and tail lights fry on me
@victoralvarezjr8790
@victoralvarezjr8790 4 жыл бұрын
speaking from experience, may i suggest de-restricting it right from the get go.....remove the spacer ring from the variator....remove restrictor cone from from exhaust headpipe....raise main jet needle up one notch.
@SkipRat13
@SkipRat13 4 жыл бұрын
From my experience of Chinese scooters in the UK first thing to go will be Speedo cable and or drive for it ! But mainly putting right other people's repairs.... Nice to see how one looked after correctly from day one will do .
@charredskeleton
@charredskeleton Жыл бұрын
If you want something to ruin your day a bad boss pays better than a Tao tao .
@DuggleBogey
@DuggleBogey 4 жыл бұрын
Mine has 6000km on it and I have been through one set of tires. I had to adjust the valves when I got it so it would start consistently, but other than that I have done nothing to my TaoTao 50cc that my wife bought 7 or so years ago. She bought it to gain experience and confidence and quit riding it when she moved to a bigger displacement bike after a year. So it became mine and I have been having fun one gallon at a time ever since. In 6000km it has never stranded me. The speedo is off by 30% and if you get up to 45mph going downhill you definitely feel like you are going to die. It is still my favorite grocery getter. Even loaded up with bags of groceries and dog food that little champ keeps on moving, albeit very slowly!
@Z3CHYD
@Z3CHYD 4 жыл бұрын
I have one and they're good for what they are, I ride mine to work over 30 mins away, and for the most part, it's done fine. Now I did put a big bore kit on mine, so it's a tad faster lol. But change the oil, run good fuel, and don't beat the crap out of it and it'll last alot longer
@Austinzko3solo
@Austinzko3solo 4 жыл бұрын
U have a 2012 tao tao pony and it has 380672 kilometers and all original parts and it still pushing to this day only had small problems like carburetor needing cleaned or tubes falling off but it still has all original parts love the scooter
@mattomite9097
@mattomite9097 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and challenge. Very calculated and very well thought out. Nice job I foresee small issues like loose bolts, maybe an electrical issue but I think if you follow the maintenance and upkeep you won’t have a major problem. I’m not saying they are built with hand assembled precision but look at what some of these people do or drive these rides. What mechanical device doesn’t self destruct when you are popping wheelies, the rider weighs 400 Pounds, or you are driving it 70mph when it’s made to go 35-40 tops? Are the scooters capable of that? Sure but will it last if you do that...probably not. Throw in poor quality control, cheap materials, and no maintenance and it’s a recipe for a mechanics wet dream and early retirement 😂
@tiffanyclark1381
@tiffanyclark1381 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2017 Yamaha Zuma 125 and now has 4650 miles on it , only 2 things needed replacement so far is the tires and a spark plug.
@FeralSparky
@FeralSparky 4 жыл бұрын
My roommate is trying to keep up with my Genuine Roughhouse... by buying his cousins Tao Tao 50.. thats a pile of parts and in VERY bad shape. I kept telling him to scrap it and just buy a new one but he strongly believes it's worth it. So I'll let him waste his money on it.
@LeadTheBore
@LeadTheBore 4 жыл бұрын
There is a night and day difference between those 2 scoots. Like a massive difference.
@davesy6969
@davesy6969 3 жыл бұрын
Tou know where to send him when it breaks down....
@Shewwler
@Shewwler 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old Roketa scooter (2006) and other than the belt and clutch stuff , I have never had real issues.... I don't run it hard and I am all about the fluid changes... It still goes although I don't think I EVER got the right replacement belt... I can't seem to find dependable information regarding this... Good luck and I will be viewing your progress with interest...
@kylejohnson423
@kylejohnson423 Жыл бұрын
rewatching this series just to make a list of tools I need to service a scooter like a pro
@zainstr
@zainstr 4 жыл бұрын
GY6❤️
@michaeloxendine6950
@michaeloxendine6950 4 жыл бұрын
The factory carbs suck because you can't get the bowl off it ain't worth the time to take the bowl of and it seems after a month something in the bowl where the overflow tube is gives out and it steadily let's gas run out so the carb can't regulate the gas filling the bowl so when you get one new might as well buy an after market carb with set screws in the bowl
@sherristewart3042
@sherristewart3042 2 жыл бұрын
My TaoTao quit running after a year I've replaced the stator the spark plug wire I clean the carburetor which was new anyway redid the hoses. Still doesn't want to run. Yesterday I took off the petcock and noticed it was clogged up so I'm going to give that a try. It was running really good and then the next day it wouldn't start and I noticed the drain hose was off so I just close that up with some not silicone but some JB weld and silicone. I've got to support air filter on there which was working great too until it just stopped.
@AltonChaney
@AltonChaney 4 жыл бұрын
"I'll make notes like 'was it really hot outside?'" Sounds like you'll be filling up that log book sooner than later.
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Hahah I'm already on page 2!
@mutevibesgaming8616
@mutevibesgaming8616 4 жыл бұрын
i used to have this model of scooter in The Netherlands, i actually had 2 even. pretty reliable, and quite easy to fix when something would be wrong. but i think I had never had troubles with it. one of them I replaced the engine and backwheel for a 70cc kit.. and it still worked fine. used to have each for at least 6months. services and maintenance on the sidewalk at home bought them for 150 each (second hand) sold them for over 250 each after driving. max km's on the clock: - first one over 19xxx km's - second one sold at 9500km Maybe i was lucky, but i kinda like these?
@maxinator156
@maxinator156 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Hercules SR50 Samba, got it cheap from a guy who just had it sitting in a garage for years, had to replace the battery, sparkplug, lightbulbs and tires, it runs like a dream and gets up to speed pretty good. only problem im having is that oil is leaking into the crankshaft housing because of an worn out rubber sealring, and cuz of that it wont start sometimes if i let it sit for 2 months or so, then i have to pump the oil out which has collected over time. gotta do something bout that soon. Much love from Germany !
@Vision6800
@Vision6800 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait...
@miguel360kmc
@miguel360kmc 4 жыл бұрын
One last thing.. important data to keep track of carburetor set up jet size! If your running stock jet ir not... Plus average temperature and elevation of your area.. no air/fule screw in stock carb unless you drill out plug there is a screw under plug.
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@obivaughn11
@obivaughn11 4 жыл бұрын
My wife has a 150cc the exhaust fell off around 500 miles,headlights burn out 1200 miles,fork barings dried out at 1500 miles. Changed carb at 1600 miles. Just cheap easy to fix Little stuff.
@pilgrimslighthouse1456
@pilgrimslighthouse1456 4 жыл бұрын
I have one 2 years old. It does not bother me but I've definitely spend hours repairing it. It goes with the territory.. if you want a tao tao expect to work on it often and know how to do it
@Jflames23
@Jflames23 2 жыл бұрын
40536 miles and im having start issues in cold never had valve adjustment and even worse in nyc Noone knows what's to do even Chinese can't do it sad we need u in nyc asap
@ErinBunny24
@ErinBunny24 2 жыл бұрын
These aren't even bad scooters. It's bad owners. If you just take care of it and address the breakdowns right when they happen, it will last forever really. I've had mine going on 3 years at this point and the only things I've ever had to do was minor repairs like lights, oil changes, belt replacement, battery replacement and a carburetor. But the carburetor was my fault I was new to vehicles and put a whole bottle of gas treatment in my tank.
@matthewjimenez1333
@matthewjimenez1333 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen your videos and are great.i have a request if possible can u make a video about wire harness and how to connect them step by step
@MassiveTrackHunter
@MassiveTrackHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Just noticed the tags on the Pinto....3DR BBQ Best ever. Bet you get comments and laughs at every stop light.
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah it goes more un noticed than you would guess
@CaptainHDY
@CaptainHDY Жыл бұрын
So just replaced rear tire about 3 months ago. First issue I had with the scooter was headlight bulb replace 3 then went to LED and seems to be working. Have an issue with right side break switch to start scooter, doesnt work anymore. Clutch and variater were replaced at 10k miles and just recently like past two weeks. Real issues are thise cheep plastic body pannes, have glued to to gather several times and have a bungee cord holding up the plastic splash gard lol
@johnboy6840
@johnboy6840 3 жыл бұрын
I've have changed a foul plug. But one thing on muffler system had to put in a stud that somehow worked out of the exhaust manifold but replaced it with a kit I found on Walmart.com
@adventurewagen
@adventurewagen 4 жыл бұрын
One was given to me, body was shot so ripped off anything not essential to run and stop it. Got 48 mph out of it with the muffler cut off and a little carb tuning. It now resides in Mexico with the new owner.
@labronhill
@labronhill 4 жыл бұрын
Your right after 2,000 mile on my chinese scooter electrical problems haven't started since it's been under a tarp for 2yrs sad but I got a Kymco 2005 grand vista 250cc runs like a tank over 200,000 miles
@Boogerboys1990
@Boogerboys1990 4 жыл бұрын
I have three 49cc gy6 tao tao and I put a 250$ 83 cc big bore kit with hi comp piston. Japanese carb 100 jet. Kit came with better gears and carb filter. Some good kits on ebay also 60 big bore kit but I stayed away from those cheap jugs. Mine fly. 45+ easy depending on driver weight I'm 200 lbs and these thi g take me up hill no problem. Stock they're slow junk poopy doop. Engines are solid when worked on properly and tuned.
@COVENANT69
@COVENANT69 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Garret, I've been riding a ATM50A1 since January of this year. It has been my only transportation, as I've encountered financial problems. Though I am not a motor technician, I do have ample experience in electrical engineering. I've been keeping this scoot upright for a good while now, and I have some (chaotic and uneducated, but useful) tips and tricks concerning it. You may already know some of these, but bear with me. 1. I turned the idle all the way up and choked the airflow, this allows it to climb hills and accelerate easier. I can't adjust F/A mix because the screw is capped. If you take the choke out of the stock airbox and duct-tape one of the four holes on the intake tube instead, it works better. 2. Please, Please, Please only burn supreme in this thing. Anything else will clog fuel lines and cut acceleration in half. 3. It's not a question of if the headlights will go, it's when. Definitely pick up some strong LEDs as soon as possible. 4. Occasionally, it will start but then bog out immediately after giving throttle. Taking the airbox cover off and giving it the carb clean treatment while accelerating for WAY too long will fix this. 5. There's a very good chance your electric start gear will strip itself clean very soon. Pick up an extra just in case. 6. The slip-ring that holds the crank case on needs to be replaced with a better one immediately after being removed. I know it sounds stupid, but the stock one is just a one-trip ticket. 7. The liquid in the oil tank from the factory is NOT OIL. 8. The stock speedometer is always five clicks short. If it says 30, it means 25, etc etc... 9. The stock fuel gauge takes a minute to warm up. If it says it's at half, drive it for 5 mins and it will be right. 10. Trying to modify the height of the carb needle without drilling out the F/A mix cap is absolutely futile. I heavily suggest it to be the first thing you do to the carb, because it lessens many woes. If you did read this whole essay, I hope at least one of these will serve you well, and happy riding!
@CaptainFrandy
@CaptainFrandy Жыл бұрын
love the write up! I am having some issues with my mopedand you seem extremley knowledgable! it will only idle with starting fluid andwhen i give gas it bogs down. I am not too experienced and I am trying to do the work myself. Could it be the valves? I changed out the fuel filter and the air box already! I havent drilled out the F/a mix cap yet but I think this could help. Any suggestions? Any help is appreciated!
@team-badseeds
@team-badseeds 4 жыл бұрын
What a great idea! I randomly stumbled upon this video, but I have subscribed so's that I can follow your progress. Good luck :-)
@Neighbor512
@Neighbor512 4 жыл бұрын
no way to haul gear to a show?? have you tried haha... been a while boo boo great content keep it coming
@KyanR7
@KyanR7 4 жыл бұрын
Eyyyy you told me you’d make a vid on it.
@danishghostrider
@danishghostrider 4 жыл бұрын
EDIT: Mine has done over 10k miles. It has many names in my country. Comes both as 2 and 4 stroke. Usually very reliable..... until it breaks xD Trust me, mine just blew an engine. Thankfully, parts are cheap :D (and second-hand engines) Giantco Sprint 139QMB (discontinued) VGA (Longjia) Digita (2 stroke version) discontinued)) Baotian Speedy (discontinued) Texas Flash X30 (still being made)
@chuckmoore8668
@chuckmoore8668 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Tao Tao, it has 10,000 on it and going strong! Like any machine, as long as you properly maintain them, they will last!
@marksmith5156
@marksmith5156 4 жыл бұрын
Headlight vibrates bulb filaments apart so you loose the headlight when bulb is hot minor problem spare under the seat in rag or next to fit an hid kit so you can see where your going at night 😎
@tenders
@tenders 4 жыл бұрын
June 1 to January 1 is seven months, not six. Bonus month for extra torture! Nominate the "OWNER' SMANUAL" for a Pulitzer prize.
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
I can always count on you for an honest fact check!
@stevehill4615
@stevehill4615 4 жыл бұрын
must you to go Chinglish --- lol
@OKBAOK
@OKBAOK 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good we really want to know 🙂
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Well we're fixin to find out here directly
@Teramydog
@Teramydog 4 жыл бұрын
this will be epic
@belyndafleming3461
@belyndafleming3461 4 жыл бұрын
I ride one the only time I don't ride it is when there's ice on the ground I live in Douglasville Georgia mine takes me back and forth to work daily and anywhere else I want to go the most problem I have out of mine is sand in the carburetor cuz I live on the river when I bought it I put a Big Bore Kit in it and I run a 150 carburetor and I have no problems other than sand and I don't run the stock breather either. I use the orange coil I use NGK spark plug and I use a CDI with no rev limit I change my oil like I should I also change my transmission dope like I should and I have ran through about three sets of tires I'm talking no tread riding it my sixth year this year
@itsmephil2255
@itsmephil2255 4 жыл бұрын
Just added you on twitter as well as on Instagram... Really looking forward to these updates
@Scooter_911
@Scooter_911 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Looking forward to providing them!
@luciengraves6452
@luciengraves6452 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one April 12. It broke down after two months with only 1500 kilometers. In the shop now.
@grosdingo13
@grosdingo13 4 жыл бұрын
In France we have the chance to have the MBK Booster (Yamaha bws). We love overating this thing. It's THE respect machine to have as a teenager.
@monty81567
@monty81567 4 жыл бұрын
I got the TAO TAO Racer 50 motorcycle looking one from Amazon last August 2019.
@molnarrobert1893
@molnarrobert1893 4 жыл бұрын
I tried a almost new one out for a quick turnaround and the taillight fell out from a slight pothole, from a person who owned me money,we had to be even,sadly.
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