"The gun goes 'pfeh.'" Something about that delivery made me giggle.

and the best part, when you fire it you hear no muzzle blast, just a slightly angry voice whispering kurwa.

I love that Ian still closes up every video with "hopefully you enjoyed it", as if those of us that have lapped up every second to that point has been anything other than enthralled with the content

Suddenly hundreds of Polish handguns bought 20 years ago for $150 come out of the back of the Gun Safes….

Omg its the gun from the forgotten weapons logo

That auto lock is smart - simple yet intuitive. Really neat bit of engineering there.

My Forgotten Weapons "We Do Our Best With the Worst" buffalo adorned Elbonian dress uniform still fits after like 6 years. Quality shirt, that one. Have a good day Ian

Enjoy your time in Poland, Ian. An amazing people and culture.

I was wondering at the start of the vid what the Poles needed a high speed murder man pistol for and it turns out they didn't.

Nice to see you still had some Polish guns left to show us from your trip to Poland. I hope there are more. Great video as always.

Amazing how they ended up with space for a full length extended rail before there was even stuff to go on a rail.

Normally I don't comment on bigget channels where I feel like the conversations are just lost in the noise, but on the off chance you see this, I just wanna say I appreciate the effort that is put into th descriptions.

back in the early seventies I worked in the machine shop run by all poles and I got to tell you these guys are the greatest machinists and as a kid at the time they taught me so much about metal structure and how be a Craftsman in a machine

Last time I was this early to a Forgotten Weapons video, the Vis Wz. 35 "Radom" was the Polish service pistol. 😊

I like the lines on this gun. Putting the arms on the slide and moving the recoil spring an assembly on the bottom like that gives it an interesting look.

Polish engineering is great. They have that Central Europe knack for metal-working (EG Germany, Czech, Hungary, Slovakia, Austria...)

I'm guessing T in the name stands for 'tłumik' (lit. muffler), which would be Polish for a supressor.

What a fucking cool design.

Super pozdrowienia z PL;)

The trigger gaurd reminds me of a villainous mustache

I'm really baffled by this design

That is one of the most interesting silenced pistols I’ve seen, thanks

Greetings from Poland. Designs from years ago amaze with their simplicity and effectiveness. I'm a fan of the TT pistol myself. The design is over 100 years old and works as effectively as Five Seven.

what an awesome looking pistol, can't believe I haven't seen this in more video games or movies

The recoil spring/suppressor lock is marvellous.

This channel is a REAL man's gun heaven

Very well engineered. Bet it's pretty quiet too. For Clandestine work though, it would be a bit awkward. Hard to hide that under anything but a Trench Coat.

>Suppressed Makarov I sleep >Suppressed Makarov, but it's Polish REAL SHIT

This is seriously a well engineered pistol. Very impressive.

wow! what a guy! Fiji to Poland in one day!

This design is extremely cool and well thought out

That is a VERY cool design!

Clever design, love it. Thank you Ian.

cool design, one of the best looking silenced pistol

Thanks Ian , Had to view what you had scrounged up for us as soon as it showed up on you tube !!

Awsome stuff

Not a multiple target weapon, certainly. Slower than a SAA in everything but reload. But probably very quiet...

So join me next time on the range with a delisle carbine and the silenced pt 83 as back up gun on the two gun course...that would be awesome

The fact that only a few prototypes were made adds an air of mystery and rarity to this piece of firearm history.

The automated slide-lock was an interesting choice. It absolutely simplifies the operation of cycling in another round compared to the hush puppy, but it also eliminates the possibility that it could ever be wielded as a side arm (presumably for special forces or VIP security) since there is no way to utilize it in a semi-automatic nature. The other thing that intrigues me, is the discussion about mass production. In light of my previous point, who would've ever assumed there would be a "mass market" for what is effectively a firearm that would only be wielded by hit-men. This seems like the type of project that would have always targeted a small audience.

It would have great screen presence, someone get that gun an agent.

Really interesting find! Thanks!

Fantastic video.

Sold, Very slick from 50 years ago. Good engineering. Thanks ,Enjoyed.

"We have PB at home.." PB at home:

Interesting gun, good review, thanks.

Very cool pistol.

magnificent design

Ian has to test that gun on the range to see if it has a "Mouse Fart" or a " Donkey Dump"

That is a very cool design. I like that a lot

It's a thing of beauty!

This gun looks so cool and it's the first time I hear about it.

Looks like I found the side arm of the antagonist for my next book. Thanks, Ian!

very cool

very cool design

Cool. Thanks. Greetings from Belgium.

Dude it's finally the LOGO gun!!!!!!!!

Very cool

Oh god I flinched so hard when that got dry fired, I had a P83 that snapped the hook on the firing pin when someone did that and finding a replacement was impossible.

This gun looks so sci-fi and yet also antique at the same time.

That's a pretty clever adaptation

I feel like this needed a Disconnect for that auto Slide Locker, because while nifty for handling, it's always on meaning the idea of abandoning fully suppressed shooting in favor of faster easier follow up shots takes a major hit. It basically un-semiautos the pistol unless I'm missing something?

Looks just like the Forgotten Weapons logo.

Very cool piece of wok. I wouldn't want to see myself on the business-end of one of those ! Wonder what their motivation was to design sucha device.

Ian, goddam...where do you find these??? Great video, man. Keep up

1 step closer to the 6p9 Makarov PB. Make it happen, Ian. That handgun is TOO cool.

Neat gun. I would prefer a disconnect for the slide lock, though. Just so it could be semi-auto when I need it.

Did you find out what the reasoning was for the revised trigger guard? Is the backwards curve supposed to help with stability of the spring assembly, or is this some polish high-speed operators idea of improved grip?

Damn, Ian was 21km away from me and I learn about that as always decades of hours too late xD

Ah a typical polish weapon. Genius engineering, "P" in the name, and dipped in Warsaw Pact (aptly)

That is awesome

Reminds me of the pistols the Cleric used from Equilibrium

How did you get away with showing the unscrewing of the suppressor? Every time I've done that KZfaq has given me a content warning and deleted the video with a tos strike.

Love learning about silenced weapons. Sneaky sneak phfff

Why have a recoil spring at all if its always using manual operation? Is it a dampener ? Was there a way to not engage the slide lock for auto loading ?

Neat engineering

Gotta do the P-64.

Imagine if it had a way to store the gas so when you release the trigger and then also unlocking the slide, it would use the stored gas to cycle like normal.

It looks like the Forgotten Weapons logo :)

What puzzles me, is that "recoil spring". Since the slide is not supposed to back during the firing, i believe the reinvented device is never used in that context, remaining merely a "return spring" when operating the slide manually, unless there's something we don't see, like capability to bypass the slide locking device, somehow. I do own the "original" P-83 and really appreciate this sort of content. Thanks!

I love the “Hush puppy” makarov

I find the whole thing baffling.

Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

You know, I'm just going to say it.. That slide, particularly the angle near the hammer, almost looks like something Beretta would do, like with the PX4 line and Cougar.

the recoil spring now does not have to fight recoil anymore, itjust has to return the slide to battery. probably an easy gun to cycle! about the production, of ocurse its very possible they had a good production run, but keep it secret.

Should visit Karl Brugger and look at his Makarov P6 (or PB?) That is also a very nice pistol👍

Seems a considerable amount of suppressor and mechanics for the 9X18 Makarov.

great, thank you Ian. Man lernt nie aus!

that is a HUGE silencer for no more cartridge than a 380. wow. you'd have to wear a rain coat and a shoulder rig just to bring it to the show, or carry it in a brief case I have a M21 Beretta .22lr that is 8" long, can and all, front sight on the front of the can, groups 2" at 25m, and when I run it wet with WD-40 and water, and the slide locked shut, it's inaudible at 100m on a quiet night on open, flat ground, 50m in a normal day setting with a bit of wind and hills and brush, or in town with typical car traffic. Nothing about a subsonic 380 hit to the chest is all that likely to keep a man from screaming, much less an armed man from firing his gun. Once that much noise is made, the silencer is probably irrelevant. I regard the ability to swiftly draw the gun from under a T shirt, and get a head-hit to mean at least as much as the (perhaps) 3x greater "power" of the 380, when I have to dress up like Santa Claus, just to get to the shooting site. While the 22 only has 60 ft lbs of striking -force , when it's applied to the head, or throat, it's well proven to be enough o a lick to let a skilled shooter get in more such licks. Several tricks are used to make the can so compact There is a 1.25" sleeve tube around the .875" OD baffled tube. The "sleeve area" between the two tubes is filled with copper screen wire, wrapped around the baffle-tube. the rear 1" of the baffle-tube is vented into this "sleeve-area". The bottom of the sleeve area, for 1" at its rear, is vented into an oval 'under-chamber". , which extends back to the trigger-guard and also down to the trigger guard, for most of the length of the can This under-chamber is tapered at both ends, both from the side view and the front, so that it wont snag on the draw or re-holstering movements When I got rid of the over-travel in the trigger, the DA option disappeared, too, cause I bent the trigger more in order to achieve the former. The barrel is pinned down to the frame, and the barrel-release lever is now the slide lock. A Taurus "pinkie finger' magazine is fitted. A 1/8" thick steel cap was Tig welded to the top rear of the slide. This additiional metal let me dovetail in the large, luminous rear sight and also let me add an extractor, which lead to a huge increase in the reliability of the pistol in normal cycling The M21's very lw slide opens far too soon, normally, and lets out a LOT of noisy powder-gases. Tapered Lexan grips are Acraglassed around the recoil spring tubes, making the gun much more concealable and the stock panels are much less likely to break The thumb-safety was enlarged/lengthened, like that of a match 1911. A dovetall base was silver brazed to the front of the sleeve tube and a luminous front sight was dovetailed into that base. The threads on the barrel and the can were case-hardened and the can is Loc-Tited onto the gun. I'd like to have interrupted threads and have the option of removing and replacing the can, but doing so would probably throw off the sites.and add about $1000 to what I'd have to charge for the assembly. The baffles are made of compressed copper screen wire, and a couple of neoprene washers are used. I dont normally have them in use as "wipes", cause they hurt accuracy, but it's not much of a deal to add such. Remove the internal snapring and washer that serve as the front endcap of the can. Fire a shot and the "bloop" noise ejects the end-most baffle.. You can then use a "buttonhook sort of tool to reach inside of the baffle's bullet- path and gently tug out the remaining baffels, This is if you have not fired a lot of rds thru the can. If you HAVE, you'll have to first spray in some WD-40 and wait a bit for the powder residues to soften The can will start getting noisy after about 30 shots., but not much louder and not quickly.. Soak it well with brake-cleaner aerosol, let it set for an hour, and blow it out with canned air and it's ready to go again. The baffles alternate in size from 3/4" long with a 1/2" ID hole, to 3/8" long and a 1/4" ID hole. This has the effect of letting the most gas get into the sleeve area and the underchamber., with the neoprene washers completely stopping the powder gases from just passing-thru the compressed screenwire "donut" baffles.. It's a uniquely entertaining little trail gun. I pair it with a P938 Sig, in case I need more power. The Sig has a spare barrel, chambered in 9x21mm, with a hollowbased, 45 gr, solid aluminum hp, which is slit nearly in half (lengthwise, from both ends) A LOT of Alliant Bullseye powder is used to achieve 2200 fps, and 500 ft lbs from this pocket 9mm, with no more recoil than a Makarov. It's AP on Level IIA Kevlar, which is all I had to test it with., At impact, the bullet breaks in half lengthwise and the two full length, sharp-cornered frags diverge and yaw as they penetrate. Because of the very high impact velocity, any vital organ tissue that is 'caught' between the segments as the penetrate is torn apart by the temporary gas cavity. On animal tests, it's proven to exceed the effect of a 4" barreled 357 with 125 gr jhp;s. Not bad for a 6" long, 16 oz gun. :-) 1/2 grain of black flash powder removes the horrendous amount of muzzle flash. For the noise, fire one handed if indoors or in a car. Cover one ear with the palm of your non firing hand. For the other ear, hunch up your shoulder and tilt your head into it. This helps a LOT at preserving your hearing and if practiced a bit, wont hurt your ability to hit the chest at 10 ft or less.nor slow down your draw and hit times. If a double of this combo to the chest wont stop him, a .44 mag jhp would not have done so, either. He's just in the 1-2% outlier category, that dont get stopped even by a 12 ga.

That's a pretty handgun.

You sneaky Pete!!

nice potted flowers behind you, slavic trade mark ;)

When will be some meeting with You guys somewhere in Poland?

Ian now posesses co tent for a few years only from visit works 11 and łucznik

Seems a bit of a strange thing to effectively make it a manual action ONLY weapon. Having to lock and unlock the hush puppy to cycle seems like a pain, but compared to not being able to fire in semi auto at all...

Katowice my town :''( it could be so cool to do a little meetup

Damn it it looks great, also JAK MOŻNA ZMARNOWAĆ TAKI ŚWIETNY PROJEKT!?

In the end you answered exactly that question I have came up in the beginning: why would army need such a weapon? Is there any history of real use of such things? I just see no situation it could be used...

The eternal conundrum of Forgotten Weapons. If Ian hadn't shown us this one, it would have become eternally forgotten to everyone but a few custodians scratching their heads once in a while. But now it's been reset to a well known prototype in the collective gun knowledge, and will remain so for a number of decades until it fades back into obscurity.

The Hush Puppy is a better design. Allowing to choose between one shot then manually pulling back the slide or hit the switch for semi auto shots.