Public pathway blocked by "Danger" signs put up by beachside condo

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WPLG Local 10

WPLG Local 10

3 жыл бұрын

Bike riders who used to travel on the Hollywood public path say they think there is no danger and the condo put up the signs and fencing to keep people away.

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@PlayingWithFireOutdoors
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Just rip the signs out. It's not closed just blocked, illegally at that.
@chrisb9960
@chrisb9960 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t have the common folk forget their place.
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisb9960 that's right the peasants are revolting.
@ericjones9725
@ericjones9725 3 жыл бұрын
Fence snips and 2 minutes. Problem solving 101
@chrisb9960
@chrisb9960 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericjones9725 They would claim destruction of property. I saw a post that said something about returning it to its owners via the pool. That resonates with me. 😁
@ericjones9725
@ericjones9725 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisb9960 it ain't a crime if you don't get caught. Their property is littering public property.
@lakesnake2005
@lakesnake2005 3 жыл бұрын
If it is a Public Pathway and the City did not place the signs, just take them down and carry on. They can't arrest someone for trespassing on a Public Pathway. Is someone going to run out of the Condos and speak to you in a stern voice ? It is not official and so not enforceable.
@DxModel219
@DxModel219 3 жыл бұрын
then the city should maintain it and stop being so cheap
@MaxItUpwithMarta
@MaxItUpwithMarta 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the city just doesn't remove the signs
@rafaelestrada5261
@rafaelestrada5261 3 жыл бұрын
@@DxModel219 WHY?
@DxModel219
@DxModel219 3 жыл бұрын
Rafael Estrada ummm because it’s a public pathway?
@jonahpinx
@jonahpinx 3 жыл бұрын
@@DxModel219 The contract is from over 20 years ago, I am sure that this will change that agreement. Still not right of them to have the agreement and then refuse to follow it.
@wwinky99
@wwinky99 3 жыл бұрын
Her immediate response of “I live here” says it all.
@BWolf00
@BWolf00 3 жыл бұрын
Busted!
@alixyarrow5821
@alixyarrow5821 3 жыл бұрын
White
@BWolf00
@BWolf00 3 жыл бұрын
@@alixyarrow5821 Racist
@grandwonder5858
@grandwonder5858 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen too many a-hole homeowners doing this. They put up “Private Property No Trespassing” signs 75-100 yards away from their own backyards that are adjacent to a state park to stop people from using a wooded trail that belongs to the state. The entire area is a part of a state park and all of the trails are state’s property (There is even a map that shows it), but when a few residents are allowed to build their homes adjacent to the park the residents try to cut people off from using part of the park that is close to their homes. They treat a part of the public park as their own property and that isn’t right! I use it anyway because I’ve been using that area for years before the signs were put in place and I knew it is public land, not theirs. Other people do the same as well.
@chinookh4713
@chinookh4713 3 жыл бұрын
@@alixyarrow5821 she looked asian
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 3 жыл бұрын
"Maintaining the path is an unfair burden on the residents" - well, tough. That was the price of getting agreement to build the condo in the first place.
@brianhaflin9799
@brianhaflin9799 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the developers was the ones that entered the agreement and not the owners. Often they might might not know that they own it or need to maintain it. These several videos on KZfaq where people learned they legally own a cemetery on their property and there are family members wanting to visit or have their loved ones buried there.
@laughingdaffodils5450
@laughingdaffodils5450 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhaflin9799 It's one of the things you have to agree to when you buy into the property.
@jamesholland973
@jamesholland973 3 жыл бұрын
I Agree. WPLG Local 10 needs to retain a new legal 'expert'. The right of way maintenance agreement between the developer and City was in all probability placed on the title of each condo. When such a notice and agreement is placed on the title of a property, the individual purchasing it is accepting that agreement. In this case, I would be looking closely at the role of the management company. Have they been charging a maintenance fee for the pathway and then pocketing it? Essentially, they don't have a leg to stand on. It really comes down to how aggressively the City wishes to pursue the matter.
@Robertahausen
@Robertahausen 3 жыл бұрын
Like when people whine about their taxes and having to shovel the sidewalks... boo hooo bbooooohoooooooooo!!!
@kiyosenl.3889
@kiyosenl.3889 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhaflin9799 they have an HOA, which is started by fhe developer and supposed to take over any responsibilities of the developers like this, their HOA is the one that had all this crap put up, besides its what the home owners agreed to when they bought the property
@sinbadsailor1963
@sinbadsailor1963 3 жыл бұрын
This sleazy condo association needs to honor the promises that were made in order to build these buildings. Someone needs to kick down that illegal fence and signs.
@gato0082
@gato0082 3 жыл бұрын
Ik,... 🤷 Wrtwf...
@augere9620
@augere9620 3 жыл бұрын
The developers made the agreement not the association.
@sinbadsailor1963
@sinbadsailor1963 3 жыл бұрын
@@augere9620 When property is exchanged, so are the deed covenants, easements, and rights of way.
@coupage2836
@coupage2836 3 жыл бұрын
Knock it down, if it's public, treat it as such.
@ghostofreagan3181
@ghostofreagan3181 3 жыл бұрын
@@augere9620 then the association has no right to block the path
@commonsense8703
@commonsense8703 3 жыл бұрын
The pathway will reopen when someone takes the signs and fence down 🤔Since it wasn’t legally closed, anyone can remove the garbage in the walkway ✌️
@MrJamberee
@MrJamberee 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why the city doesn’t send out a crew to reopen it. It’s a right of way being obstructed by the condo association.
@SeaJay_Oceans
@SeaJay_Oceans 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a form of Littering, just as if a political posters were left in place long after the elections are over. Trash is Trash, it doesn't matter what is written on it, it is literally garbage on public lands.
@nikolnolastname4473
@nikolnolastname4473 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. The law, unfortunately, doesn't work that way.
@mikkihesson3509
@mikkihesson3509 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikolnolastname4473 it does bc the law had nothing to do with it. it wasnt something the city put up, it is a public pathway, and there is nothing anyone could DO even if someone did pass the fence. police wont remove the individual seeing as it is a public pathway and there is no legitimate danger.
@nikolnolastname4473
@nikolnolastname4473 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikkihesson3509 I said nothing about removing an individual. People have been succefully sued after they removed illegal fencing, etc.
@wesleyhempoli5548
@wesleyhempoli5548 3 жыл бұрын
"shhhh" lol, lady he's a news reporter. he's literally the polar opposite of 'shhh'.
@gabrielw2655
@gabrielw2655 3 жыл бұрын
And she says it with a fkin cam right in front of her
@Pygmyz06
@Pygmyz06 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielw2655 yeah it’s called a joke
@rejectionistmanifesto8836
@rejectionistmanifesto8836 3 жыл бұрын
Why have none of these criminals from the condo association been arrested. So disgusting.
@rparkerjr77
@rparkerjr77 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pygmyz06 and the "it's just a prank bro" excuse is never valid
@coreymoore1443
@coreymoore1443 3 жыл бұрын
Just threaten to send the city engineers in with tens of millions of dollars of heavy equipment to fix the hillside and then bill the condo (which is contractually responsible for such work). You’ll see that path open in a damn hurry.
@lukeskywalker2116
@lukeskywalker2116 3 жыл бұрын
I like it
@isabellaangeline2175
@isabellaangeline2175 3 жыл бұрын
I love this.
@rinlo1424
@rinlo1424 3 жыл бұрын
This EXACT same thing went on in my town up in Santa Cruz County. Several beachfront property owners blocked a public access pathway in front of their homes for years. After they were forced to open it up, residents of our town made a point of celebrating for a few days right in front of their houses. It was awesome.
@mattpayne3349
@mattpayne3349 3 жыл бұрын
Near where I live a rich landowner decided to do the same thing. Legal advice from lawyer - get some boltcutters and cut locks. Done. No more problems.
@Rhaspun
@Rhaspun 3 жыл бұрын
It is NIMBY gone going too far.
@ThisGuy76
@ThisGuy76 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I live in Hollywood, & when this reopens I'm going to ride my bicycle over there & just ride back & forth on the path!
@danpress3817
@danpress3817 3 жыл бұрын
But, the owners. CEO, and managers will NEVER pay, no jail, maybe a slap on the wrist.
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 3 жыл бұрын
we did exactly that when homeowners put up fake signs and a fence to block off public access to the beach in Tacoma since they didnt like divers parking and walking down. we ripped the thing down and later the state put up sign public access and cussed out the homeowners.
@thegame3938
@thegame3938 3 жыл бұрын
This is another story of rich people being greedy.
@stinkystonr
@stinkystonr 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordy H. so they can get tax write offs.... big whoop
@brianorozco1074
@brianorozco1074 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@mikehunt6107
@mikehunt6107 3 жыл бұрын
@@EviLLivEClan they signed a contract. Are you saying that any of us can just arbirtrarily disregard any contracts we just feel are unfair?
@Allangulon
@Allangulon 3 жыл бұрын
@@EviLLivEClan Liberals are the greediest people I know!
@Rhaspun
@Rhaspun 3 жыл бұрын
Those aren't rich people in the condo. They're wanna be rich people.
@peterbuckley3877
@peterbuckley3877 3 жыл бұрын
If they refuse to honour their legal agreement council should revoke all permits for the building and force the residents to leave.
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 3 жыл бұрын
They say it's unsafe, they aren't "fixing" it but agreed to maintain it? Okay. Hire someone to go and inspect it and then someone else fix even the slightest issue (go ahead and work the weekends!), and then send the bill to the condo.
@LaneCorbett
@LaneCorbett 3 жыл бұрын
Open path or have your condos bulldozed, your choice richboy
@brianhaflin9799
@brianhaflin9799 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe there is safety or liability issues with the path and the condo association cannot have the general public on the path at this time? Coming up with the funds and getting the proper construction company does take time especially after many are backlogged due to COVID.
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhaflin9799 if that was the case, then one would expect the condo residents would also be blocked form using it, and they *should* be able to easily provide proof they are working on it. ... Maybe, but I suspect that's not the case.
@myonline1985
@myonline1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminshropshire2900 That would be the way most places outside the US would do it. If you are contractually obligated to do something for the public then either you do it or the public does it for you and sends you the bill. You didn't trim your public facing hedgerow? City does it for you at 3x the cost. That tree in your front yard is hanging dangerously over the road? City will remove it at 3x the cost You didn't clear your sidewalk of snow and ice? City does it for you at 3x the cost and ohh that nice policeman over there has something for you too
@jacqueslefave4296
@jacqueslefave4296 3 жыл бұрын
There was a similar situation going on in La Jolla California, residents did not want people to park on perfectly legal curbside spaces in front of their houses, so they would buy their own red paint and paint the curb red, and the police would ticket them and even in a few cases, tow them away. At one point they did it to a reporter at a big newspaper, and he fixed them good.
@jaczob666
@jaczob666 3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't even that long ago either.
@Slayceos
@Slayceos 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a nice path to put 5000 homeless tents if I do say so myself
@coupage2836
@coupage2836 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I absolutely agree with you.
@HazelJuanitaMillanHoffman
@HazelJuanitaMillanHoffman 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they want it littered with tents and homeless?
@coupage2836
@coupage2836 3 жыл бұрын
@@HazelJuanitaMillanHoffman It was sarcasm Hazel, a joke. However, it would be hilarious :) Personally I think it would make an awesome TV show. lol
@thomasglynn2282
@thomasglynn2282 3 жыл бұрын
Abraham Lincoln? Are you sure you're not Martin Short
@Opiemus
@Opiemus 3 жыл бұрын
Damn it! That's what I was going to say! They let the homeless sleep everywhere else and they have a perfectly closed pathway there for use.
@Beltfedshooters
@Beltfedshooters 3 жыл бұрын
Should replace the sign with one that says "Dirt bikes welcome!'
@johnny196775
@johnny196775 3 жыл бұрын
Best answer.
@jimmyknuckles
@jimmyknuckles 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@scowlistic
@scowlistic 3 жыл бұрын
Ruff Ryders
@radicalrick9587
@radicalrick9587 3 жыл бұрын
I would put up a sign that says loud midnight parties welcome!
@PatrickWagz
@PatrickWagz 3 жыл бұрын
The louder the pipes...... the BETTER!! *BRAAAP!!*
@skj9163
@skj9163 3 жыл бұрын
The Condo already acknowledged it's responsibility in maintaining the path. That would make all of the condo owners complicit in breach of contract with the city, and I'm surprised that there hasn't been a daily fine assessed against each member until right of way is made safely usable again.
@bgregg55
@bgregg55 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the path will be open real soon after this story.
@isabellaangeline2175
@isabellaangeline2175 3 жыл бұрын
Technically it was open then. It’s not, and never was, a legal closure.
@nguyenhoang8547
@nguyenhoang8547 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever put up the illegal signs should be arrested if they have done this many times.
@TripleWhopperWithCheese
@TripleWhopperWithCheese 3 жыл бұрын
Its civil issue, not criminal you moron.
@nguyenhoang8547
@nguyenhoang8547 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripleWhopperWithCheese talking about moron. If they keep doing this, it’s no longer civil. You must be a beijing biden supporter- they don’t know the difference between criminal and common sense 😂
@robjohnson8522
@robjohnson8522 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripleWhopperWithCheese Ummmm, so you are saying if I build a fence across the public road in front of my house I have violated no laws?
@fjb4932
@fjb4932 3 жыл бұрын
"...if they have done this many times times." WTF ! ONCE is Once Too many. One time = one bullet. Two times = two bullets. Etcetera ...
@MichaelClark-uw7ex
@MichaelClark-uw7ex 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripleWhopperWithCheese Nope, illegally blocking a public right of way is a criminal issue.
@MatanuskaHIGH
@MatanuskaHIGH 3 жыл бұрын
Condo doesn’t have authority to close a public walkway 🤷‍♂️. It’s simple
@markmitera4521
@markmitera4521 3 жыл бұрын
"We don't know when the path will re-open." Ummm... technically, and legally, it isn't closed. Those signs mean nothing.
@isabellaangeline2175
@isabellaangeline2175 3 жыл бұрын
Right? I really wish this reporter wouldn’t use language that makes it seem like the condo is in the right.
@kevingriggs4249
@kevingriggs4249 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take upon myself to remove the signs and gates every night.
@thetessellater9163
@thetessellater9163 3 жыл бұрын
me too, but I'm in England!
@rediscoveringamerica3003
@rediscoveringamerica3003 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto, but in Wisconsin
@drew1980ish
@drew1980ish 3 жыл бұрын
The entitlement is STRONG with all in the beach areas
@TheCybertiger9
@TheCybertiger9 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid I use to walk the beaches and shellfish with no problem, now it seems it's all "PRIVATE"
@renee8544
@renee8544 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously
@MrBeard-ig5zc
@MrBeard-ig5zc 3 жыл бұрын
Someone with balls and a bolt cutter needs to take one minute and fix it. This is an eminent domain play. Also the developers agreement with the city is binding with the condo owners as it would be a part of the covenants and conditions. When the ocean front snob said shhhhh. That said it all.
@vulcan2882
@vulcan2882 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say that myself.
@mia1shooter
@mia1shooter 3 жыл бұрын
yeah...but you know there will be some dick cop that will arrest the person.
@A_Bunch_of_Savages
@A_Bunch_of_Savages 3 жыл бұрын
But they said it wasn’t fair.
@nunyabiznez6381
@nunyabiznez6381 3 жыл бұрын
No it's actually a right of way situation. Since it is illegal to obstruct a right of way without just cause then it is legal for anyone to remove the obstruction.
@robjohnson8522
@robjohnson8522 3 жыл бұрын
"Also the developers agreement with the city is binding " Yes. That is why they are playing the safety game! No one is against safety, right? ;) That is a very ingenious ploy. It takes someone smart and tough to stand up to them. Smart tough people don't go to work with a city so the city has no one with the chutzpah to call their bluff. And hey, why should they bother? City people will go no more or no less pay by ignoring or by fixing the problem?
@MoveAlongPeasant
@MoveAlongPeasant 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s on the developer because of the site agreement but we are also going to block the path…” Can’t have it both ways. They about to get dunked on
@racher4593
@racher4593 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone, anyone really, needs to develope the initiative to take some wire cutters to that fence, and remove it, then repeat the process everytime those privileged snots put it back up.
@howardchambers9679
@howardchambers9679 3 жыл бұрын
And then sue you for damaging private property... Probably
@d.b.2812
@d.b.2812 3 жыл бұрын
Just call the city and have them remove it or take it down yourself , not like they can do anything.
@stuckgrenadepin.225
@stuckgrenadepin.225 3 жыл бұрын
The city won’t do much about it. The liability from removing it and it being true, then someone getting hurt is enough to keep them away from immediate action.
@IrishAmerican17
@IrishAmerican17 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuckgrenadepin.225 BS - someone on the city council probably lives there.
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuckgrenadepin.225 there is no liability to the city. its a city owen walk way
@stuckgrenadepin.225
@stuckgrenadepin.225 3 жыл бұрын
@@dknowles60 if the city owns it then there is liability to the city.
@stuckgrenadepin.225
@stuckgrenadepin.225 3 жыл бұрын
@Stuart H the condo may have agreed to maintain it but the city still owns the property. Everything the city owns, controls, every employee and their actions carry a measure of liability. What they do or do not do carries a measure of liability. It doesn’t matter if another entity agreed to maintain it. If they didn’t and the city did nothing about it, the city is liable along with the condo. Maybe you should pay attention. You obviously don’t know what you are saying. I didn’t say the city is 100% liable. I said if the city removed the sign and someone got hurt because there was something wrong, no matter who put the sign up, the city *could be* liable. Most cities are extremely slow to act when liability is an issue.
@Jakkagra
@Jakkagra 3 жыл бұрын
That lady had me on the floor laughing ahahah. Even when she said "shhh" the audio got quiet!!
@brianorozco1074
@brianorozco1074 3 жыл бұрын
It was weird. I thought it was because I was laying down on my left ear that had an AirPod
@rodprops
@rodprops 3 жыл бұрын
Shh.....shhh 😂😂
@imlikeheroin2
@imlikeheroin2 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment before I wrote it myself! 😅
@Rink03
@Rink03 3 жыл бұрын
A good idea to contemplate, maybe the city needs to just put the condo owners on notice, if they dont remove the barriers to that public walkway and maintain it, then the city should start proceedings to condemn the condos and have them torn down
@HandGrenadeDivision
@HandGrenadeDivision 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea, punish the hundreds of people who live there for the administrative sins of the property manger.
@johnblair8146
@johnblair8146 3 жыл бұрын
@@HandGrenadeDivisionActually, it's an AWESOME idea. Sue the residents and they can then sue the property manager. MORE HASSLE for the guilty partieS.
@WC-jd8rn
@WC-jd8rn 3 жыл бұрын
I'd bet my life savings that the lady who said "shhh" is the first one who thought of the idea to put up a sign. lol
@keithe5549
@keithe5549 3 жыл бұрын
Most that I have met hate HOA's and find them always led by some power hungry Karen that often is stealing the funds or using them to employ their families.
@CODYORMOE
@CODYORMOE 3 жыл бұрын
Just rip the gate down.
@Talinthis
@Talinthis 3 жыл бұрын
Would be a shame if the fence mysteriously vanished one night
@dexterjsullen
@dexterjsullen 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao that women Using the pathway pretty much sums it up.
@brianhaflin9799
@brianhaflin9799 3 жыл бұрын
If she lives there, She might be allowed to. Even if the path is unsafe, Liability coverage might protect her.
@sergiomartinez9932
@sergiomartinez9932 3 жыл бұрын
Also, if there was a safety concern they wouldn't be access from both sides not just one side. This is clearly an attempt to keep the public away.
@sergiomartinez9932
@sergiomartinez9932 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhaflin9799 No it wouldn't. When you knowingly put yourself in danger your issuance won't pay a dime in fact they may remove it.
@isabellaangeline2175
@isabellaangeline2175 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhaflin9799 Did you not watch the video, or are you just not able to comprehend words? Your post makes no sense.
@beijingpete
@beijingpete 3 жыл бұрын
That old lady rather ineptly hit the nail on the head!
@13dma1rz
@13dma1rz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't get why people just don't move the signs and carry on. The condo has no rights over the public way.
@discobikerAndRosie
@discobikerAndRosie 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Arrive with wire cutters. 10 minutes later, open bike path. Boom. Problem fixed. It's a public path. The condos did this illegally, so these uppity people can have their spoiled way. That snobby woman proved that. *BTW. If the fence mysteriously disappears, it wasn't me. I live on the other end of the country.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 3 жыл бұрын
Hell I'd be tossing the pieces of their illegal fence and toss it over the condo's fence into the pool area.
@brianhaflin9799
@brianhaflin9799 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe there is safety or liability issues with the path and the condo association cannot have the general public on the path at this time? Coming up with the funds and getting the proper construction company does take time especially after many are backlogged due to COVID.
@laughingdaffodils5450
@laughingdaffodils5450 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhaflin9799 "Maybe... the condo association cannot have the general public on the path at this time?" You're not understanding. They don't have any authority to bar the public. For any reason. If they think they have a liability issue then they need to get their workers on it ASAP to fix it, not to fraudulently block the road.
@samevans1535
@samevans1535 3 жыл бұрын
I bet if I could frisbee those signs right into their pool.
@jb6712
@jb6712 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's obvious that "Karens" and "Kevins" of all ages live there!
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 3 жыл бұрын
That could easily be the definition of both condos and HOAs. May as well just rename them as Karen and Kevin zones.
@michaelburke5907
@michaelburke5907 3 жыл бұрын
Karen, Kevin and their boy Kyle. Yup.KKK
@terrycullender123
@terrycullender123 3 жыл бұрын
Entitlement runs deep in beach front property owners? Is this really news? Send state investigators and crews to make repairs to this public danger.
@brianorozco1074
@brianorozco1074 3 жыл бұрын
They’re selfish. They want the pathway only for themselves
@D__Lee
@D__Lee 3 жыл бұрын
Pubic access denial is a problem throughout the USA. I remember several cases where landowners blocked boaters from paddling down navigable rivers that crossed their land. I’ve encountered beachfront owners who think their land rights extend to low tide. When you try to explain the difference between high tide and low tide, they get upset.
@MatanuskaHIGH
@MatanuskaHIGH 3 жыл бұрын
Give people a little power and it goes to their heads. It’s illegal for them to stop you from going on public land per 4th Amendment. And I use the 2nd amendment to protect the other amendments.
@MatanuskaHIGH
@MatanuskaHIGH 3 жыл бұрын
ABORIGINAL ONE 😂. Well god forgives so I think I’ll be just fine.
@JaredJanhsen
@JaredJanhsen 3 жыл бұрын
The solution sounds easy to me, but I don't know FL law all that well. Usually when a property owner fails to maintain a public right-of-way they're legally responsible for, the city will go do it for them and then send the property owner the bill. Basically a little letter that says "Hey, Fixed that for you!"
@racecar_spelled_backwards868
@racecar_spelled_backwards868 3 жыл бұрын
IIRC under Florida law, if the "public" no longer uses a path for whatever reason, after a certain time it becomes fully private property. I have a feeling that is the game being played.
@gducharme6354
@gducharme6354 3 жыл бұрын
Just tear it down. I would if I lived there even if I did not use it. Just on principle alone. Get your courage up, get organized and just do it.
@justinallen9104
@justinallen9104 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, those liberal cucks think courage is drinking non-soy creamer in their 10$ coffee. They probably even voted to remove "Trump's" border wall. LOL!
@gducharme6354
@gducharme6354 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinallen9104 I agree with "liberals" on some things and other things totally disagree; same way with "conservatives". It is the way that "libs" do things and the real reason they are doing it. You mentioned the wall. I say put the Border Patrol agents back on the border and not impeding free travel on the interstates and highways within our borders. I see the wall as a two edged sword. Used to keep out or to keep in. Put the wall up in some places but not along the full border. I see our military fighting for our rights and freedoms and cops and politicians fighting to take them away.
@gducharme6354
@gducharme6354 3 жыл бұрын
@william bush No. You don't want to get charged with destruction of private property. Need just a couple of pliers and screwdrivers. Take it apart and throw it over their fence. Make sure you document everything. Before you start walk down the pathway and video it.
@sid2112
@sid2112 3 жыл бұрын
No need to organize a damn committee. That's the kind of thinking that got us in the mess we're in now. Just do it, go deal with the problem. I lived in California for a time and the one thing I noticed above all else is how everything seems to be somebody else's problem. I moved back home where people know better than to pull that kind of crap in the first place.
@davestationuk7374
@davestationuk7374 3 жыл бұрын
Just call the fence racist and it will be gone overnight
@josephgarza5265
@josephgarza5265 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the city just come in and tear the gates and signs down?
@Allangulon
@Allangulon 3 жыл бұрын
Coz they're lazy!
@dodgeplow
@dodgeplow 3 жыл бұрын
Because it's still private property, just has a right-of-way easement on it. The city has to go through the courts on a matter like this.
@johnclements6614
@johnclements6614 3 жыл бұрын
There most likely is some storm damage which whilst not a danger at present could be tomorrow, or next week. They do not want to pay for the walkway to be inspected everyday so have just closed it. I assume that they would still be liable if they put up signs warning of the risk. The city should tell them that they have to repair the damage or the city will do it for them and send them the bill.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@dodgeplow Nope, they even stated it is PUBLIC. The condo owner (likely a company) just agreed to take care of it as part of an agreement to develop the land.
@dodgeplow
@dodgeplow 3 жыл бұрын
@@SilvaDreams public pathway on a RIGHT OF WAY. Read the contract they show. A RIGHT OF WAY is not owned by the city. It is owned by the property owner with an easement for public use. There is a significant difference. If you've ever owned property with an easement on it, you would know.
@aftersexhighfives
@aftersexhighfives 3 жыл бұрын
"The cost shouldn't fall to them" Something that was clearly outlined when they purchased the property that they would have to be liable to pay. Something that should just come out of their HOA fees. Really guys. How about we just condemned the whole building , since we can't really tell what's safe and what isn't.
@seangaffney581
@seangaffney581 3 жыл бұрын
It closed after a king tide wiped out sections of the retaining wall..they have since rebuilt that many months ago yet it still remains closed.
@TheINFJChannel
@TheINFJChannel 3 жыл бұрын
My neighborhood park was fenced off....by a building that counsels mental health....for adults! Yea they fenced and locked a whole park simply because it's adjacent to their parking lot. Trust the neigborhood parents are pissed! What kind of selfish *business* takes a park away from *kids* ? Losers. Thus, I'm feeling the annoyance with this particular story! 🙌
@stasiaspade1169
@stasiaspade1169 3 жыл бұрын
Fight it!
@jonedmondo8806
@jonedmondo8806 3 жыл бұрын
IS the park a public park? If so, take down the fences. It's illegal for the business to close the park if it's public.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 3 жыл бұрын
Who owns the park?
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 3 жыл бұрын
And you aren't taking any action if it was done illegally? The park is still closed because you're just sitting on your hands. I don't mean to sound harsh, but that's what it takes sometimes to get something done.
@xaldin2phase
@xaldin2phase 3 жыл бұрын
I don't live there, but if I lived there, at this moment without hesitation I would go there to remove that fence.
@mikehunt6107
@mikehunt6107 3 жыл бұрын
It would get stuck on your horn.
@xx-xt4rg
@xx-xt4rg 3 жыл бұрын
If the city would apply hefty daily fines until they opened it I think the condo association would have a change of heart. Besides the path doesnt seem to be so close that it impedes their privacy
@LeeeroyJenkins
@LeeeroyJenkins 3 жыл бұрын
God forbid you have a lemonade stand on the sidewalk. Public works comes with sledgehammers. But they leave this up?
@patrickbuick5459
@patrickbuick5459 3 жыл бұрын
It clearly seems to be breach of contract. Take the condos back, or sue bigtime like the city would have a right to do!
@tara1darby
@tara1darby 3 жыл бұрын
Just cut the lock and keep moving. They can't leagaly stop you!
@jb6712
@jb6712 3 жыл бұрын
Nor can anyone LEGALLY stop them.
@elweasel2010
@elweasel2010 3 жыл бұрын
Just as it was not their path to close, neither is the lock your property to destroy.
@bamahama707
@bamahama707 3 жыл бұрын
Throw the lock in the water.
@nathanc5789
@nathanc5789 3 жыл бұрын
Those signs hold zero ground. Go around it. They have no authority to shut it down.
@patrickbuick5459
@patrickbuick5459 3 жыл бұрын
I have another solution. Since it is such an unfair burden, then I guess for the next year, it should be "under repair" 24 hours a day, 7 days a week with very loud equipment and bright lights on the beach (wouldn't want to tresspass) pointing toward the building. Oh yeah, and every construction crew always has music playing. Also, the pool and building need a certified civil engineering report that they are not being compromised by the same erosion and liquefaction, in the meantime, it is deemed uninhabitable! Edit: also, anyone caught crossing closure barriers is subject to arrest!
@BIGBLOCK5022006
@BIGBLOCK5022006 3 жыл бұрын
Those portable light towers are no joke. Those things are bright at full power.
@missinglink7709
@missinglink7709 3 жыл бұрын
yeah if I used to use that path those signs would be gone every time they put them up.
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 3 жыл бұрын
Just "occupy" the "public" pathway no matter what they say.
@LeeeroyJenkins
@LeeeroyJenkins 3 жыл бұрын
Occupy it with homeless people, just like in Venice.
@noyes3810
@noyes3810 3 жыл бұрын
Just so everybody knows if you wanna use that path just remove the fence it’s blocking public property..... That’s like someone literally blocking the sidewalk you can’t do it
@mikehunt6107
@mikehunt6107 3 жыл бұрын
@Hiccum Blurpaedius no it doesn't.
@analien3831
@analien3831 3 жыл бұрын
@Hiccum Blurpaedius lay off the crack
@Tarheel13
@Tarheel13 3 жыл бұрын
@Hiccum Blurpaedius smoke some more crack
@Tarheel13
@Tarheel13 3 жыл бұрын
@Hiccum Blurpaedius you are suppose to be scary? 🤡🤡🤡 lol
@analien3831
@analien3831 3 жыл бұрын
@Hiccum Blurpaedius did you really just use a derogatory term from the 1940s?
@dexteroreilly
@dexteroreilly 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not afraid to go take everything down - the condo can’t do anything about it and the police have no right to arrest me for simply accessing public property. So long as the signs and fencing that belong to the condo are not damaged or otherwise stolen, and placed back on condo property there is no crime.
@Awol991
@Awol991 3 жыл бұрын
Just needs a simple city order. While the pathway is closed the buildings are closed as the permissions for the building were conditional on the path.
@jennysam3929
@jennysam3929 3 жыл бұрын
If it is a public pathway, by law, the condo association can't block access and must repair by contract.
@delorbb2298
@delorbb2298 3 жыл бұрын
If you live in those condos and you aren't upset about this then you're part of the problem.
@alisoncircus
@alisoncircus 3 жыл бұрын
It is NOT an "unfair burden"; it's a burden they signed on for when they purchased their condos - like roof replacement and janitorial staff for public areas, it's part of the costs of the residence. Nothing "unfair" about it - except to the public, because of their actions.
@daBEAGLE1017
@daBEAGLE1017 3 жыл бұрын
I dont want to shovel the snow off the sidewalk in front of my house in winter so im going the same route as this condo.
@gemfaceter
@gemfaceter 3 жыл бұрын
Public needs to take down the signs and use the path, what can they do about it.
@treyellis3
@treyellis3 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I lived in this city just so I could ride my bike over there with a backpack full of tools, to carefully dismantle all fences and signage, then bundle it all up with zip ties and a logging chain, and padlock it to a post.
@jestersraven408
@jestersraven408 3 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of something that happened at the beginning of Quarantine a street nearby to where i live put up street signs that said the road was closed on both sides of the street and they didn't have permission to that and after my brother called someone and they confirmed that you could drive through the road my brother wasn't the only one who made this call either so we would drive through it because it was the fastest way home and every time we did we would see the entire neighborhood outside having multiple barbecues, swimming in some inflatable pools while there was a group of kids riding their bikes around while they all gave us some of the meanest looks ive ever seen a week later when we were driving by we saw the sign bent and torn up on the side of the road
@silasdietrich7464
@silasdietrich7464 3 жыл бұрын
2:05 Reporter: "exactly what I was looking for"
@chrisroberts6860
@chrisroberts6860 3 жыл бұрын
"Mr Gorbachev, Take down this wall!"
@annabelleecho8056
@annabelleecho8056 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! Thank you Chris for making me laugh. In Chicago the city blocked part of the lakefront for reconstruction before 2020. No one is ever there working so people just pulled the fence through the dirt a bit and walk on through. I think the condo in Hollywood and the City of Chicago are just taking advantage of this emergency situation to pull this crap!
@snaggalfrash9013
@snaggalfrash9013 3 жыл бұрын
We’re from the government and we’re here to help.
@2TROLL1
@2TROLL1 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't sound like anyone with any authority to close that path has closed it.
@mencken8
@mencken8 3 жыл бұрын
“It once was a thriving pathway-“ contemporary journalism at its finest. Clue: pathways don’t “thrive.”
@Billy420-69
@Billy420-69 3 жыл бұрын
Shows what you know.
@BIGBLOCK5022006
@BIGBLOCK5022006 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Michigan but I would be more than happy to show up with a Sawzall, Stihl gas chop saw, and a engine drive welder and compressor that can be used as a plasma cutter or for carbon arc cutting.
@redcarpeteater6903
@redcarpeteater6903 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of people that block parking on a public street with lawn chairs or trash cans.. I stop in the street, get out and move them and then park in their prime parking spot.
@terramarini6880
@terramarini6880 3 жыл бұрын
I have an older truck, would just push through/drive over the trash left on the street.
@paulskopic5844
@paulskopic5844 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it has been a right of way, just take down the fence and signs.
@turninmonyin2noise978
@turninmonyin2noise978 3 жыл бұрын
Move the signs out of the way and use the path. Does the Condo have any more legal authority to put the signs there then a citizen does to move them out of the way?
@lordlandbeast
@lordlandbeast 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the time it doesn't look like there's erosion. People walking on that path constantly could be ruining the structure underneath the sand. If they should be maintaining it they should replace it completely
@bradwelljackson6385
@bradwelljackson6385 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Weinsier definitely explains things very clearly and carefully. He should be an English teacher ; )
@MaxItUpwithMarta
@MaxItUpwithMarta 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, he is handsome too!
@kortnie5947
@kortnie5947 3 жыл бұрын
They’re practically begging for the city to sue them lol
@alhamilton1826
@alhamilton1826 3 жыл бұрын
Couple questions.... who is liable for injuries if a member of the public get injured while using this "right of way". I also heard that the developer is required to maintain it... and they had agreed to this as part of the zoning for the development. Soooo... why they harassing the residents instead of the developer?
@user-fm3vj5im1m
@user-fm3vj5im1m 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter how much it costs the condo owners to maintain the right of way; maintaining it was a condition of the original development approval agreed to in 1995. The condo needs to get the cheque book out and repair the path, then raise a levy from the condo owners to pay for it.
@robertmurphy3014
@robertmurphy3014 3 жыл бұрын
There is no reason anyone should not just walk up to that fence and sign and do as they please. Its public property with un attended equipment.
@sydnidowney3598
@sydnidowney3598 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called a prescriptive easement as well as it was an agreement the city made with the builders. These “ELITES” need to be put in THEIR place.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 3 жыл бұрын
Just go in and verify the safety claim for yourselves. If it's a false claim, pull the fence down. Simple as that. If it's still a problem after removal, report the illegal closure to the town/city. You have to play hardball with some people.
@pcast2005
@pcast2005 3 жыл бұрын
Send out a city cleanup crew with police officers to clean up and remove the illegal signage and fencing. After the cleanup, bill the offenders. Cities does this all the time. What's the problem?
@Undertaker1134Tx
@Undertaker1134Tx 3 жыл бұрын
Check and see what board members of the condo has a connection to anyone in the city government
@T_P_W_ThachoZenjuan
@T_P_W_ThachoZenjuan 3 жыл бұрын
So anyone hit by car can sue the condo 🤣😂😅🤣 That's going to be expensive.
@stasiaspade1169
@stasiaspade1169 3 жыл бұрын
Path,not road. No cars.
@johnclements6614
@johnclements6614 3 жыл бұрын
@@stasiaspade1169 The alternate route has cars.
@winterbear6290
@winterbear6290 3 жыл бұрын
"Shhhh" 🤫
@whitemailprivilege2830
@whitemailprivilege2830 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t sussh me
@michaelcastro5339
@michaelcastro5339 3 жыл бұрын
This is in California, the state were home invaders have more rights than home owners and were if you hurt the condo association feelings they block your "right" of way. I'm sure if they saw someone removing that illegal sign they would call the police and they would be happy to arrest that person.
@bigfart1839
@bigfart1839 3 жыл бұрын
The moment she says shhh to a guy with a microphone and a camera 🙈😂🙈😂🙈😂 You're busted
@postHocErgoHelocopter
@postHocErgoHelocopter 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao it comically zoomed in on her keeping it Hush hush
@littlecloud2197
@littlecloud2197 3 жыл бұрын
Just cut the fence off they can’t do anything
@Finnssssss
@Finnssssss 3 жыл бұрын
If a non-traffic related sign imposing any kind of restriction on public property doesn't have a city code on it, it's not a legal sign and can be ignored.
@CH3NO2Semonious
@CH3NO2Semonious 3 жыл бұрын
I have a cordless Sawzall in my van. Surely someone closer than Oregon has one too.
@randallwarren9096
@randallwarren9096 3 жыл бұрын
There are these bigger Corporation can break the laws and do whatever they want if it was you or me we would already be in jail over this stuff
@chrischris4827
@chrischris4827 3 жыл бұрын
Just take down the fence and the signs and put them up at the front door of the effin condo! Then tell the Karens and Kens in the condo to pay you for doing it! This will of course irritate them to no end which is the idea.
@IntrepidFraidyCat
@IntrepidFraidyCat 3 жыл бұрын
They're darn lucky no one who had to ride/walk in the street has been struck by a car. I hope they have to pay a fine for each day they had it closed.
@newsnowfresno6873
@newsnowfresno6873 3 жыл бұрын
Simple Solution: Bolt cutters, cordless angle grinder or metal blade on cordless reciprocating saw. Signs are illegal litter placed on public property. No legal charges for disabling/removing them.
@me8042
@me8042 3 жыл бұрын
If I lived there, I could tell you when it would open. Tomorrow.
@perryfefchuk637
@perryfefchuk637 3 жыл бұрын
20 minutes or so
@emsauce75
@emsauce75 3 жыл бұрын
Only in Florida would you see someone shush a person from the media with the camera in hand. 🤦🤦🤦
@richardwhite6288
@richardwhite6288 3 жыл бұрын
Cali too...
@emsauce75
@emsauce75 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardwhite6288 nah we go after them with whatever is handy. Or pose. 🤣🤣🤣
@mxg75
@mxg75 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the agreement was with the developer, but the residents inherited the obligation when the bought in to the community; it should have been disclosed in their documents. These right-of-way agreements are a pain, but I don't think "But the developer set it up" is a way to get out of it.
@michaeldamico9592
@michaeldamico9592 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.... they just put them there... SO JUST REMOVE THEM...!!! But whom ever put them should be fined
@notthesamecc1927
@notthesamecc1927 3 жыл бұрын
oh boy, power struggles and greed. so much for a reset of our attitudes.
@armandosanchez152
@armandosanchez152 3 жыл бұрын
Wealthy don’t care 🤷‍♀️.we only here to serve them
@perryfefchuk637
@perryfefchuk637 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly gonna change that bs
@armandosanchez152
@armandosanchez152 3 жыл бұрын
@@perryfefchuk637 wealthy will pay a peasants from different society to make sure that don’t happen. Hard to knock down 1,000 years of 1% wealthy peoples
@Dapper_Dean
@Dapper_Dean 3 жыл бұрын
The old lady that's a resident of the condos, pretty much tells the whole story.
@metaladder1018
@metaladder1018 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible that someone living there is on the city council and blocking actions...
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