Big Picture: Pentomic Army

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Big Picture: Pentomic Army

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13 жыл бұрын

Big Picture: Pentomic Army - National Archives and Records Administration - ARC Identifier 2569662 / Local Identifier 111-TV-394 - DVD Copied by Katie Filbert - Department of Defense. Department of the Army. Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations. U.S. Army Audiovisual Center. (ca. 1974 - 05/15/1984). Pentomic Army flexibility shown on "THE BIG PICTURE" -- This is an age of streamlining, with everything from automobiles to guided missiles reflecting the dynamic look of the future. The United States Army is no exception, and with this in mind THE BIG PICTURE documents the new concept in this episode entitled "The Pentomic Army." As shown, the Army's modern fighting division today is lean and functional, simple in organization and efficient in performance, keeping pace with the many marvelous inventions at its disposal. The Pentomic Division, so named because it consists of five battle groups, is a semi-independent, self-contained fighting unit designed to operate effectively on an atomic battleground, should the need ever arise. As pointed out in this film presentation, today's Pentomic Division is characterized by the ability of fewer men to deliver a more devastating concentration of firepower on any would-be aggressor.

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@boblawblaw892 Жыл бұрын

Damn. The presentation was so crisp, precise and theatrical. Better than the PowerPoint seminar style presentations we get today. I'd rather the cheesy style presentations of the '50s than the PowerPoint music videos that we get today.

@johnmullholand2044 Жыл бұрын

I remember my dad saying that when he was in the Army in the late '50s, early '60s, that they tested the M-14. Still had a lot of bugs to work out. They hated them, took them back to the armorer and demanded their M1 Garands back.

@phillipschouw2462 Жыл бұрын

I mean who wouldn’t ? Though I would still prefer m14 over the plastic m16

@SuperColonel91 Жыл бұрын

In my opinion, the M-1 Garand is the best out of those 3!

@Trashcansam123 Жыл бұрын

@phillipschouw2462 not in the moist jungles of Vietnam you wouldn’t.

@CrossOfBayonne Жыл бұрын

@@SuperColonel91 M1 Carbine for me

@phillipschouw2462 Жыл бұрын

@@Trashcansam123 you’re saying that AK’s were rotting in the jungle ? Get outta here. There’s multiple accounts from soldiers where their m16 would break either due to the harsh conditions or literal combat. Smacking your plastic rifle against solid wood and steel won’t do much 💀

@asmodeus0454 Жыл бұрын

The Pentomic reorganization of infantry and airborne divisions was adopted by the U.S. Army between 1957 and 1963, a mere 6 years. So this episode of "The Big Picture" must have been produced _ca._ 1957. It was Gen. Maxwell D. Taylor's concept that was formed at Pres. Eisenhower's instigation who wanted the U.S. Army to have a more modern, "charismatic" image in line with the more modern image of the U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force.

@nimroids6587 9 ай бұрын

How nobody has ever made a pseudo-horror videogame based on this concept is beyond me.

@rickstandal626 Жыл бұрын

YEP that was my army,well the Army that decided we needed to look like bus drivers. (Ike jackets in OD was a far better look). That being said I had to qualify with all weapons available such as the Thompson, grease gun M1 and Carbine. I trained in AA with the 40MM and moved to the Niki and was involved with the development of the Hercules. THE GOOD OLE DAYS!

@reddevilparatrooper 8 жыл бұрын

Its more like today's Brigade Combat Teams in a Division instead of 5 but 4.In WWII some Army units were organized as individual Regimental Combat Teams assigned to a Division or Army Group.Korea used RCTs and turned them into Combined Arms Teams into Task Forces.This concept goes back and forth as the face of combat changes as a means of flexibility of reorganization.

@eshelly4205 Жыл бұрын

My dad was camera man for “The Big Picture” He knew Sgt Queen personally

@ConnorLundeen 3 ай бұрын

It's amazing how close knit together the world actually is when you really look at it

@ronbates1795 Жыл бұрын

I served in the 3rd ID in Germany 61-63 and was leaving as plans to replace the Pentomic Dbeginning

@longredroad4249 Жыл бұрын

13:34 ,the M14 was the shortest lived military rifle in US history, it did not replace the M3 or the M1 Carbine and was a 3rd class Light Machine gun (air cooled with no quickly replaceable barrel) . In reality It was a modernized M1 Garand and that is good. But it was not everything it was said to be.

@billhuber2964 29 күн бұрын

Wheni was in the navy , they qualified me on the M-14.

@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын

Interesting concept; total failure in practice. Relied on high mobility, yet the division had only enough transport to move a single battle group at a time, so the atomic age division was back to Napoleonic foot marching, and that through a predicted irradiated battlefield. Fewer frontline combat troops had to cover greater frontages, making the battle groups ineffective in conventional combat and forcing them to rely on tactical nuclear weapons. From platoon level up to division level, the dispersion meant that the overall unit commanders had insufficient C3 with the technology available to effectively fight their units, while the subunit commanders were overloaded. Supply relied on helicopters and airdrops, which were insufficient to meet the division's requirements. The whole idea of dispersed independent groups meant that there were huge areas within the division's ZOC which they did not actually control, allowing the enemy to easily surround and defeat individual groups which were too dispersed to support each other, had insufficient troops to cover their fronts, flanks, and rears, no reliable land supply, and had to use nukes danger close to defend themselves.

@deathgripskaraoke9351 8 ай бұрын

The concept could probably be executed quite well with modern technology, it was just ahead of it's time

@Marylandbrony Жыл бұрын

Someone should recreate this video but using modern miliary equipment.

@joe-qo3qi Жыл бұрын

Classic vid. Nastalsia green machine back in the day. Introduction of the M14, no mention of the M16 yet. Words like pentomic unheard of when I did my two yrs 1970-72.

@DeliveryDemon Жыл бұрын

From what I learned, apparently, the M3A1 was still issued to US Army and Marine tank crews well up until the mid 90's? It's last hurrah being the 1st Gulf War in '91

@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z Жыл бұрын

its true... it was mostly only still in older armored vehicles like USMC M60's and Army Combat Engineer Vehicles, etc, but even some Abrams units still had them in desert storm.. even stranger is how Delta Force apparently kept around suppressed M3A1s even after getting MP-5s as some in Delta preferred them, even having them fitted with thumb safeties..

@DeliveryDemon Жыл бұрын

@@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z Nice...

@anthonymerola1489 Жыл бұрын

I remember being in the ARNG in the 70s, we still had M3A1s in a mech FA battalion, for the crews and for the FDC.

@DeliveryDemon Жыл бұрын

@@anthonymerola1489 Thanks you for your service, sir.

@TommygunNG Жыл бұрын

Delta Force used some in the 1980 Iran hostage rescue mission.

@jeremybear573 Жыл бұрын

Love the Big Picture! God bless the USA 🇺🇸 🙏🏻 🙌

@lyntwo Жыл бұрын

The good ol days of early TV and not enough syndicated shows to broadcast. So many hours watching "The Big Picture" and "Industry on Parade" while munching on potatoe chips years after seeing "Victory at Sea" from the crib.

@anthonymerola1489 Жыл бұрын

Used to watch this program on broadcast TV decades ago!

@wizardofahhhs759 7 күн бұрын

I feel like Rod Serling is gonna make an appearance at any second now.

@leg414 Жыл бұрын

Yes during my time I remember many of these of showings and then wondered... And prepared as best as I could, as it shows the mindset during that period about to be revived once more...Peace!

@user-vk7ib2gz5f Жыл бұрын

1.2천 찍고. 좋와요 찍고 😂 반갑습니다. 박수를 보냅니다 ❤😂

@spacemanapeinc7202 5 ай бұрын

It’s interesting to see that Drones were used so early in the Cold War.

@hawlikd Жыл бұрын

Got to love the Flynn pencil thin stash!

@Hyperious_in_the_air 2 жыл бұрын

7:34 is literally why the internet exists

@clevlandblock Жыл бұрын

I seem to recall back in the late 50s, that "The Big Picture" was shown on broadcast TV.

@harryballsacky Жыл бұрын

HAPPY D DAY TO ALL OUR VETERANS.....MAY GOD BLESS YOU

@m.asquino7403 Жыл бұрын

I like these videos but something tells me I’m now on somebody’s watch list. Oh well

@harryballsacky Жыл бұрын

ZA VALLS HAVE EARS ...BIG BROTHER KNOWS YOU BETTER THAN YOURSELF

@billb2479 9 жыл бұрын

Poor Pentomic! A good idea that the technology was just not ready for!

@FIREBRAND38 4 жыл бұрын

It was a lousy idea.

@Deterrent-xz5zz 2 жыл бұрын

@@FIREBRAND38 that guy you responded too might be dead Yoah

@JDA2185 2 жыл бұрын

The technology was not ready for it AT THAT TIME. Then! But it became ready in less than a decade. It was a great concept, with a lot of potential and a lot of ingenuity and revolutionary ideas. But which unfortunately, could not stand the Army's brass egos... LOL. They would not accept the fact that the Army would not play such an important role as it did previously in case a war with the Soviet Union had broken out. And for that they were ready to sacrifice this great idea and even support a war that only brought what is today referred to as the "middle ages" over their service. They hated the 1950s so I guess they loved the 1970s... LOL. When every single new weapons system was cancelled by the liberals in Congress and who used the Vietnam War to do that. The war THEY, the Army supported just to show that they were still just as relevant as they were in WWII. They weren't of course...

@420JackG Жыл бұрын

@@JDA2185The organization and tactical concepts were already stale.

@JDA2185 Жыл бұрын

@@420JackG "Stale"? What does that mean? The concepts were actually revolutionary many of which are being used today. Like using drones to spot enemy positions and relay the info to artillery units to destroy them. I would say that is the very opposite of "stale" pal. There were/are only two categories of people who were/are against the "pentomic" division: the idiots from the Army who in reality wanted a multi-million men army with tens of thousands of tanks which was completely unsustainable economically but they were utter egomaniacal retards and 2: the Soviet Union's detractors who knew that this design would strengthen the US Army's nuclear power and would offer a much increased deterrent effect against the Soviet Union. These are the only 2 reasons and the only two categories of people who opposed this division design back then and who still speak ill about it today. Unfortunately for you you have no better argument than the word "stale" lol.

@joycemyers8140 Жыл бұрын

Throw in a 1911 45 auto and a sawed dbl bbl 12 ga for close quarters. Yeah nice SHTF arms cache.

@ericpatton312 Жыл бұрын

Why does the big map in the background look like it was drawn freehand from memory?

@tomkratman4415 Жыл бұрын

Pentomic was a disaster from which the Army never has and never will fully recover.

@JDA2185 Жыл бұрын

Anybody who listens, watches and most of all understand what this concept was about realizes just how revolutionary it was. It would've also transformed the US Army in a fighting force capable of fighting and defeating a much larger armed force due to the revolutions in concepts and technology of communications, long range firepower and mobility. No wonder that even today there are articles written and videos made about it that deride it... If the US had managed to carry out this development to its completion it would've be ended up with a ground fighting force unmatched by anybody else. But, a combination of stupidity and egomania and elements from the US who definitely did not want the US to obtain such a military capability worked hard to prevent it.... The worst part of course is that they got their way.

@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын

Sort by newest comments, and then please read the comment below yours. It will explain exactly why your assumptions are erroneous. It had nothing to do with egos or politics; the whole concept was flawed to begin with.

@JDA2185 Жыл бұрын

@@mikearmstrong8483 I think you better read my comment again... Even this video says that most of the equipment and hardware that was essential to make this division work did not exist at that time. The concept was not at all flawed, it simply was very far from being ready to deploy. Read my comment again and then remember to do that the next time you feel the urge to just rush ahead and slam replies to people lol.

@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын

@@JDA2185 I read all comments completely before responding. Though it would appear you didn't read mine well enough to comprehend the simple concepts presented.

@JDA2185 Жыл бұрын

@@mikearmstrong8483 No, you still didn't understand the entire video or the facts about this division design... Try again...

@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын

@@JDA2185 The people who are always claiming that all military leaders and politicians are egotistical, ignorant, corrupt, or inept, are people who have never served in the military or public office, and know little about it. What's your qualification to say that the professionals who did away with it didn't know as much as you do? Education from playing War Thunder I suppose? I'm certain that the military higher ups who found the pentomic concept unsound knew more about doing their jobs than you do. Now instead of watching a single old army propaganda video, go look up some others that prove it didn't work.

@davidleonard1813 11 күн бұрын

And so it goes on. Fight light concepts on foot. And as it went on 5.56 is said to be obsolete and US is arming with that new Sig beast thats bigger than 7.62 fires further than Russian 7.2 x 54 R. Lighter and smaller is about $$ and never works in reality because bigger is needed. So in civillian terms you put 4ton on a 1 ton truck, it just breaks.

@theashpilez Жыл бұрын

16:37 the future iz now. The Drone wars , begun they have..

@stephensmith5982 Ай бұрын

Golly Gee Wiz that was fantastic but didn't last very long.

@MyelinProductions Жыл бұрын

pentomic: [ pen-tom-ik ] ~ adjective Military. pertaining to or characterizing the organization of an army division into five groups, each with supporting units, geared to maneuver in keeping with the requirements of atomic warfare. MANY changes! ~ Be Safe out there folks. Prepare & Always Be Ready! ~ Peace & Health to Us All.

@MFitz12 Жыл бұрын

Pentomic,.... because that worked.

@mogh2603 Жыл бұрын

When was it produced?

@denizdogan5087 Жыл бұрын

1958

@MikeHunt-rw4gf Жыл бұрын

Algorithm.

@brianwood1041 Жыл бұрын

This is sad

@anoldmannameddave7455 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, propaganda film for defense industry. How’s that sh#t worked out? 😂 Korea, Vietnam, Iraq. Afghanistan ••••.? Same old crap. Money better spent, maybe on this fng country’s People!

@Gostwriterindisguise Жыл бұрын

25:22 Hip shooting?

@johnsteele2986 Жыл бұрын

Marching fire I believe it was called.

@dongilleo9743 Жыл бұрын

The BAR ammunition pouch belt even had a metal cup on the side that the butt of the rifle would fit into, so that the soldier could hold the BAR steady at the hip and keep firing while advancing.

@danilorainone406 Жыл бұрын

capitol coppers shooshed a bunch of school kiddies in the rotunda from singing the anthem,,this country aint the same country in the subject of this old video