Our very first pour using the lay-flat hose for these architectural, board-form finish, retaining walls.
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@DangleMan27 Жыл бұрын
You can most definitely go between rebar. I’ve done it but make sure you turn the volume down. Just so the hose doesn’t expand too much and cut off the flow. But the concrete will adjust to the shape of the hose. We recently just got a brand new lay flat and the break in period is real. The prime situation you had will happen for a while. I’ve discovered spraying some oil in the reducer and the knuckle of the lay flat help tremendously when priming. Also I noticed you grabbed a strap to close it off. If you want grab a nice sized heavy duty spring clamps( the ones that look like chip clips). Fold the end and clamp on the side. If you ask me my least favorite thing about this hose is cleaning it out.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Most excellent information my man! I’d even though about trickling a little bit of bentonite through the lay-flat before connecting it up. I was wondering if there was perhaps a bit of a “break in” period as you had suggested. Glad to hear it’ll eventually get better. Thanks so much for the in-insight, I really do appreciate it 🙏
@youtubeconnollyfamily Жыл бұрын
I love how popular concrete is getting. I have been watching victory outdoor services a lot for the past year then your channel showed up on my feed last week. I can name others as well. Keep up the great videos. I really like your channel because it’s different type of concrete videos lol.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy Victory Outdoors. At first when I’d seen the videos were almost an hour long, I thought to myself (who in the hell watches concrete videos for an hour???), then I got into it and the videos fly by quite quickly (or at least much quicker than most of my hour long episodes) 😂😂😂 Ryan does a really great job with that channel. It’s quite a good representation of the daily life of a concrete contractor and the average blue-collar businessman. It’s definitely added some perspective as to the way I look at our business. Keep it manageable, keep it tight= keep it profitable. It ain’t all about the big show, that’s for certain.
@BZ1340 Жыл бұрын
You wanna watch a guru in the concrete finish business stamping etc. watch Concrete with the Hauses. That guy does amazing work. Plus he explains everything so finite as he pours and finishes.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
@@BZ1340 definitely going to check it out!
@TomBrady200811 ай бұрын
Like the way you cleaned it. It is the most effective way I’ve found is to kink and fill it. I’ve only seen one plug once due to strict slump tolerance (dry mud with hose stuffed down in between tight rebar curtains) almost blew the lay flat itself out of the flange! Tried getting the mix design changed out for a spread mix but no one wanted to pull strings for that. Keep the slump at a 7 or higher and they flow great. If the mud is flowable enough it will flow good stuffed in a 2.5 in gap. If you ever come across a wall pour that requires sticking the hose in, cut the end of the hose at a sharp angle which helps it avoid getting caught
@ryanmanuel1763 Жыл бұрын
I use a lay flat alot for the icf walls and few other things love them
@richarddonovan8373 Жыл бұрын
Hi there Richard here I love your video and your guys and I love now so much about concrete and I love how you own business and pump concrete and video at the some time and keep up the good work from Australia
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Hey Richard, thank you so much for the kind words. We’re fortunate in that even as owners, we still enjoy getting in there and doing the work (it’s quite honestly the most enjoyable aspect of the business. Appreciate you watching the channel and very much appreciate the positive feedback. 🙏🙏🙏
@richarddonovan8373 Жыл бұрын
Not a problem you ran a allsome business
@BZ1340 Жыл бұрын
Care to comment on why its seems in Canada we seem to use rear loaded concrete trucks. Yet it seems in the states the few others I follow use front end concrete truck loaders. Hausers and Bondo Build and Victory. Bondo even uses a concrete truck at times that has a long conveyor on it that folds/swings out. Pretty slick engineering
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing it mostly has to do with axle-spacing and weight requirements. I known with the concrete pumps we have a heck of a time getting big-booms on the road around here because our very “unique” axle spacing requirements.
@EarlKing-up2zf9 ай бұрын
and it works well between the rebar you can't ask for a better hose I am from the USVI ST.THOMAS Mr king again have a great evening!!
@jesseherfst7473 Жыл бұрын
We use em a lot up here in the Interior for all the icf foundations, just a shorter 8 foot whip and never have a problem priming through a 3” and with 20mm agg. Might have to try a shorter whip version
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Just water-prime? Or do you use any sort of priming aid?
@Dysiode11 ай бұрын
Concrete pouring is totally an art with so many different tools and techniques to achieve a specific requirement! I wish we got to see the results though, especially with like the pool and the styrofoam form, but I'm sure y'all feel the same a lot of the time!
@canadianconcretepumper197911 ай бұрын
Typically what I’ll try and do is follow up on the results on a future video. It’s tough because as the pump guy I’m almost always pulling away from site before the concrete is finished.
@icetimeconstruction382 Жыл бұрын
Great work
@EarlKing-up2zf9 ай бұрын
Hey my name is Earl king I think you should a little fritts pack in the lay flat mix it a little thick then put it on befor ypu prime I store mines roll up and I don't have problems priming the hos work perfect ❤ keep posting those videos.!
@snowmanmanful Жыл бұрын
we run a stumpy prior to our reducers with an air bag on it. Prime with mud snake off then put on after prime is thru. also you have a 4' radius to push the hose according to acpa.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that’s the route I’ll very likely end up going with this setup 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@hydracretepumping1816 Жыл бұрын
We have a bunch of 10ft 4inch lay flat hoses and a couple 25ft lay flats as well, even on one of our placing booms for the core wall we use a 25ft 5inch lay flat hose to get inside the rebar, but for priming out through our boom pumps best solution I found is to use slik pak, never had a problem priming through them.
@NotSureJoeBauers Жыл бұрын
Was helping a buddy place and finish some retaining walls. Another friend had done the formwork... Single steel wailers on 2' centers for a 6' tall wall... Yeah... So I knew the forms were glassy. Long story short the pump was throwing concrete around so violently it blew out a step on the top course of 1x8. Luckily I was smart enough to tell the pumper off and made them do 4 lifts. That day would have been way easier with that lay-flat. Way less bucking and highspeed concrete
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!!! Being able to lay the concrete gently into the wall like this is so much easier on the formwork, as well as the guys placing the concrete. Few wrinkles to iron out with the lay-flat, but I can see this becoming a staple element to a good percentage of our residential pours. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@ChrisSummers87 Жыл бұрын
We use the same hose but 4in. I have not noticed any difference in priming vs. Normal rubber hose. Best advise is dont let it get in the position to kink! I even use it on some of our smaller floors
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
One commenter had mentioned that there can be a bit of a “break in period” with lay-flat hoses. I’m going to play around with a few different methods/techniques to see what works best with our mud.
@nathanhoelscher1798 Жыл бұрын
And also we use a 4in if It does have a good enough flow the hose guys can put pressure on the hose to help the flow until it gets a good stream
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to try a 4” as well. Years ago I was on the hose end of a 4” lay-flat pouring walls. From what I recall, it really didn’t like being pushed around much (would kink super easy). To be fair, it was also from a different manufacturer. I am really surprised/liking how much this 3” can actually be pushed before it kinks. Just need to get the prime situation sorted and I’ll think she’ll be a winner.
@nathanhoelscher1798 Жыл бұрын
I just use water as soon as I hear it fall I turn it all the way down so it doesn’t activate my air cuff
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanhoelscher1798 exact same as what I had done here. I’m wondering if because I’m using a 3” mud-snake it is perhaps more prone to grabbing onto that first bit of rock/sand/water to makes its way through the boom? 🤔🤔🤔
@GRUBB-MUDD Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Never seen a lay flat concrete hose. Looks like it works pretty good. I had no idea that u had to take all those saftey precautions
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to try it on flat-work. Concrete comes outta that hose like icing going onto a cake!
@GRUBB-MUDD Жыл бұрын
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 yeah it does
@stevestillplaysgames5732 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing everything related to the concrete industry from the pumping and poring to finished product and of course demolition and replacement the hole process from start to finish
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to try and get more of the start-to-finish type content which you mention. We have the one site which I’ve featured in several videos starting from the boat ramp, all the way up to the most current and final structural pour for the home. I really enjoy going back through the videos and watching these projects from the get go. Really adds perspective as to how much work goes into these builds. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@itzyoungbuck1006 Жыл бұрын
I know you're not the biggest fan, but I've found the most success with prime time plus/slick willy. Even on our 58m and 56m z boom or a frame with a 12 ft, 2.5in lay flat, I have never struggled or worked the mud through like I saw you had to here. An alternative, I have seen other operators with success just getting the lay flat and taper wet before connecting.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to try dousing the lay-flat with a gallon of bentonite prior to connecting it up. It think that’ll do the trick. I actually had a successful 200’ prime with shotcrete using slick-Willy 2 just recently. I it again today with our regular 1/2 stone mix, and it plunged halfway into the second hose. The gel appears to pull all the fines from the mix and leave only the coarse sand and stone remaining in the first slug of material through the hose. I quite honestly get better results just using water. That being said, I’ve had good results priming booms with it. May give it a try with the lay-flat. I’m going to try a few different things which people have mentioned. Lots of very helpful feedback here 🙏🙏🙏
@chebarden8278 Жыл бұрын
I put 20 litres (1 bucket) of slick only takes 4 mins to thicken on the plus side ...never had a plug ,
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
We typically use bentonite on the bigger booms. We try to avoid using it with the smaller booms/residential pours only because it creates a good bit of contaminated concrete which we need to dispose of somewhere. I’ve never yet seen a conclusive answer as to whether gel primer can be pumped directly into structural/finished concrete or not. I do know that our finishers are hesitant to pump it directly into the pour. What have you found in your experience? I would like to try it with the lay-flat in place.
@TheTuntso Жыл бұрын
I usually just push it through on the first prime with just water, I am wondering why you don’t run just a 1 meter double ended 5” hose straight of the tip elbow and run your standard Putz air cuff there. You can reduce from there to any size. This way you could always run the air cuff without a huge mess even if you plug up. I have pumped with a setup like this for 5 years now and never had an issue with my air cuff or my double ended hose. We use here 5 to 3 inch short reducers no problem and and even all the way down to 2 inch. It’s just a so big relief to have that air cuff upper so minimal mess when I do plug up.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I like where you are going with this. We have short, double-ended 3” hoses which we use for line work. That could be perfect priming through the shorty and then connecting up to the lay-flat as you mention. I think this very well could be the solution to my dilemma. Thank you so much for this (and why in the hell didn’t I think of it myself) 😂😂😂
@randyanderson1983 Жыл бұрын
@@canadianconcretepumper1979that is what I’ve always done when I have to use a trimmy hose is use a double ended 3ft hose and put the air cuff there and bam! No issues ever and can still suck a bucket of water back after you take off the trimmy hose 1st
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
@@randyanderson1983 similar to what we have done in the past with tremie pours (except typically with a 3” diameter short hose). I was really wanting to avoid the added hose/clamp and just keep it simple. I also do like that the air-cuff works absolutely marvellous I’m conjunction with the lay-flat (vey little shaking of the hose is required to get it completely empty after the cuff has been closed). That’s a really good point you make with regards to still being able to suck back a bucket of water (typically how clean my hose and reducers at the end of the pour) through the short hose. I’m going to experiment with a few different methods. I like yours because there’s no need for primer/contaminating that first bit of mud out the end of the hose. So many options. Great suggestion!!!
@williamkuhn5199 Жыл бұрын
We use them quite a bit. Water , Slick pack and prime the same way I prime with a hose on. Full rpm and strokes on 6
@randyanderson1983 Жыл бұрын
Hey I been really curious about how your guys company started and such was wondering if you could make a video on that from like start to present, do like ups and downs and such idk just something i thought would be cool to see because you guys are super motivating in the pumping industry
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Hey Randy! That’s definitely a video which I want to do in the near future. Over the winter I’d like to focus on doing a few discussion type videos. I’m also thinking about re-packaging the discussion portion of when Dan and myself went through the comments from finalists for the Schwing die cast model giveaway. There was some really good stuff in there which I felt perhaps got overlooked. I think a lot of really good discussion topics could be spurred from that series of content.
@randyanderson1983 Жыл бұрын
Very much so I think it would be a fantastic thing to do on all of what you stated can’t wait for more content! I love this stuff
@JamesBond-xq3tw Жыл бұрын
Amazing , You will build a concrete wall ,then build your house out of wood ? The wrong way round ?
@ehcoroche10 ай бұрын
Been loving watching you trial this business buddy, thankyou as always for the videos Scott. Im so so far from sold though 😅 do you honestly see any real advantage to running a proper 3" reducer or even 2.5" with rubber hose? all i see with lay flats is more potential problems without much in the way of solid advantages
@canadianconcretepumper197910 ай бұрын
I've used it a few more times recently, and honestly, for the work which we pour with our residential crew, there is some merit to it. I can pour super slow without getting any of the splash which I normally would with a 3" whip-hose, and I do not have the potential issues with plugging that I do with running a 2.5" or 2" hose. I'm going to have to use it a bunch more times and in a few more scenarios before I can really decide. So far, I would say with certainty that it's not for every job, but I do feel like it is worth having on the truck (especially in markets where mix designs aren't conducive to tapering down to a smaller sized conventional hose and reducers). stay tuned....
@dannpriebe Жыл бұрын
Can totally put it through the rebar. That's the reason we got one. Because you couldn't put a regular hose 15 to 20 ft down a column full of rebar.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Most excellent! We often have architectural wall pours in which being able to drop down between the rebar is critical 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@nathanhoelscher1798 Жыл бұрын
We use a 4ft double ended to hook up or lay flats air cuff with thin hose just asking to puncture ut
@robertkwiatkowski780211 ай бұрын
We call that a mud snake in NY we use them on icf walls or a 5-3 hose but a lot of ppl like them
@robertkwiatkowski780211 ай бұрын
We put our air cuff on a 5” stubby and a 5-4 reducer off that.
@canadianconcretepumper197911 ай бұрын
@@robertkwiatkowski7802 I’m going to try some something similar, except using a 3” stubby (we keep them on our pumps already for plugging into line work). Definitely sounds like the way to go 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@travissaltzman5600 Жыл бұрын
We use a 20ft 4” lay flat and we cant prime out of it , it always seems to plug
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to try a few different methods, but my usual water-prime was definitely a no bueno.
@TheQuantumFire Жыл бұрын
Do they put any kind of bond breaker spray on the boardform before putting it up?
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Don’t quote me on this, but I believe not. I’ll ask the guys next time I’m at the site and get a definite answer to this one. 👍🏼
@StarlightStories2 Жыл бұрын
Waaaao amazing❤
@Geoffreynyachae Жыл бұрын
nice
@SuperRede4u Жыл бұрын
I'm no concrete pumper BUT could you use the old plastic bag trick that you've been using on the downhill pumping jobs of late? I mean right at the connection point of the lay flat.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
That’s actually a very interesting concept 🤔🤔🤔 I’m going to be trying a few different things here and will be sure to document them all on film. Stay tuned….
@SuperRede4u Жыл бұрын
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 Glad I brought it up. I live in Port Alberni over on the Island. Been doing construction for about 25 years. Never got into the foundation (concrete) side of things to much as there were lots of talented folks that I could rely on. I came across your channel on KZfaq and I'm really impressed with the content on it. Any of the young guns who are considering going into pumping/ placing side of things should be taking notes because I can tell that this is not your 1st rodeo. Finally - Thanks for always running a safe operation and looking out for your workers. Kudos.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperRede4u I very much appreciate the kind words and support. It’s always great to hear from local BC tradespeople in the comments. Thanks again my man 🙏🙏🙏
@pumpingconcretefamilywithe2631 Жыл бұрын
Bendiciones con la manguera de hule excelente
@bowenike Жыл бұрын
Also, are the covers you have over the elbow coming out of the hopper in-house made or purchased? Whichever the answer can you share the material? Would love something similar for all our pumps.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
We purchased them for Seattle Tarp Company. They have a version which covers from the transition-door all the way up to the deck-pipe. Our local safety authority required the rubber mat over the transition door, which is why we do it that way.
@bert2479 ай бұрын
prime half a bag of cement , then wont block to wash it out push smaller pipe inside
@GRUBB-MUDD Жыл бұрын
Damn now that is stretched the f out. All the way out 😆 flowing good tho
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
I thought a was going to have soooo much reach…. until I didn’t 😂😂😂
@spencerparks3139 Жыл бұрын
How often do you have to replace your tip elbow seals?
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
It really depends on the type of work we’ve been doing. Long-line jobs off the end of a boom tend to grout up the swivel gasket at the tip to the point where it needs to be cleaned daily. If we’re pouring mostly just out of the boom, we can go months without having to clean/change the gasket. The added line pressure when pumping through added hose/pipe coupled with the fact that the boom stays mostly in the same position all day (elbow is stationary/not rotating) will grout up the tip-swivel in no time.
@spencerparks3139 Жыл бұрын
Ok that helps thanks! I’ve been doing a mixture of both a lot lately and it’s been probably about 5-6 months since I changed it. It’s leaking a bit now so I didn’t know if it was premature or not. I have been cleaning the elbow daily for the past month though
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
@@spencerparks3139 ours usually become grouted up and don’t swivel so well. The rubber gasket itself we usually see 6 months to a year out of.
@Bsfkoff11 ай бұрын
The music was a nice touch dude something heavier would be cool 😎
@canadianconcretepumper197911 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. We’ll get there eventually 😁😁😁
@user-bh2vz4uk7m Жыл бұрын
What is the inner diameter of the red tube?
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
It’s a 3” once full and expanded.
@bowenike Жыл бұрын
Did concrete pump rates go up in Vancouver? Music and cutscenes in videos now? 😂 dont tell us you hired a production team instead buying the 28Z
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Dude; ask me how proud I am of myself for figuring out how to add music using KZfaq studio 😂😂😂
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Nothing will come between me and that new 28Z Putz! Well, nothing except for accounting 😂😂😂
@bowenike Жыл бұрын
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 hahahaha funny, im a chartered accountant by initial training so im kinda of conflicted here. I find things like this usually align when you want something bad enough. One on a steal of a deal or some major new small homes residential development pops up and all of a sudden a 28Z makes so much sense 😂 i will pray to the pump gods for you
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
@@bowenike steal of a deal is what I’m banking on 🤞🤞🤞 (need to start a petition to Putzmeister). If not for accountants, we’d probably have one of at least every concrete pump currently in production…. That is until the bailiff eventually takes ‘em off our hands 😂😂😂
@bowenike Жыл бұрын
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 😂😂😂 im sure we could find a valid reason for that if we thought hard enough too
@user-iv4od6ge4u Жыл бұрын
Try damaging the hose with water before using
@tomsoil9909 Жыл бұрын
Stick to old school! Rubber hose!!
@canadianconcretepumper1979 Жыл бұрын
Took me 10+ years to muster up the courage to try this lay-flat hose. I’m in way too deep emotionally to bail on it now! 😂