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Punch-Out!! & Doc Louis Wii - Fastest Punch

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Жыл бұрын

Measured from first movement for a punch and when Mac turns red. A few punches have varying speeds so I averaged them. A few punches seem like they would be slower, but you get hit really early, like Glass Joe's jab, you get hit like 3 or 4 frames before the punch actually gets to you. Going frame by frame showed me some interesting things, early hits from punches, late hits, and a surprising number of punches to the nuts. I'll probably make a video showing these strange things sometime. Still have a few more strength and speed videos to do, then I'll do my big finales. Give me a sub if you enjoy, I'll keep getting better at all this, thanks.

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@TheOneWhoAsked37 Жыл бұрын

Doc Louis himself has the fastest punch? That shows how great of a Overweight boxing champion he was back then.

@solarflare9078 Жыл бұрын

He's always holding back for Little Mac. He also has the strongest attack in the game as well.

@demi-femme4821 Жыл бұрын

@@solarflare9078 Doc Louis is still arguably better than any of Mac's opponents and he's been retired and not keeping in fighting shape for YEARS. Imagine how much of a beast this man was back in his prime.

@Davtwan Жыл бұрын

So he punches really fast to get those stars and lets loose. A true boxer indeed.

@oblongLogin Жыл бұрын

@@solarflare9078 he invented the star punch

@314Pirasy Жыл бұрын

@@demi-femme4821 it'd probably look like punch out but if mac was in the proper weight class just dodges a uppercut and lets loose with a doc louis version of the hondo rush

@yamyams8147 Жыл бұрын

the fact that mr. sandman's slowest attack is still less than a second long

@victorrodriguezjr1514 Жыл бұрын

No Little Macs were harmed during the making of this film

@raikaria3090 Жыл бұрын

Doc Louis has some of the fastest punches in the game [and the fastest] despite being way out of shape and practice. Now imagine him in his prime.

@pizzapizza759 Жыл бұрын

he was prob like mr sandman back then

@obbyistguywhodoessomeguides Жыл бұрын

@@pizzapizza759except td sandman was his contender

@gr8daynegb Жыл бұрын

Weird to think on a list of nearly 100 punches that Glass Joe is in the top 20%. Not used to anything of Joe's being near top of lists in a good way lol

@philive1681 Жыл бұрын

I mentioned it in the description. His punch is kinda weird. It hits really early, like as soon as his hand starts to move away from his body, you get hit, its like 3 or 4 frames before his fist actually gets to your body. I'll do a video sometime on all the weird stuff I saw when going frame by frame.

@TheFinalChapters Жыл бұрын

Glass Joe is one of the hardest revenge matches.

@raikaria3090 Жыл бұрын

Joe's punches are fast. It's his aggression that isn't.

@weirdooftheyear Жыл бұрын

@@TheFinalChaptersif you don't know how to hold up that is

@TotalDramaHarold Жыл бұрын

@@philive1681I always thought that was oddly fast

@commanderdemonno9819 Жыл бұрын

y'know, this really shows how well the game's balanced only one attack that deals barely any damage goes past the average person's reaction time

@solarflare9078 Жыл бұрын

To be fair, it's also one that can also lead to your KO

@TotalDramaHarold Жыл бұрын

And dreamland express is a chain so it also doesn’t really go past your reaction speed

@fyra_cat2119 Жыл бұрын

4:26 Soda and bald bull are dancing to the music in sync

@ihap5180 Жыл бұрын

Big bros dancin

@kinocorner976 Жыл бұрын

Despite being in the lower division, pretty interesting that Von Kaiser’s Jab is that fast.

@jerodmcallister1974 Жыл бұрын

Yep, in TD his "Bombs" jab is pretty fast.

@philive1681 Жыл бұрын

I like it though. I've always liked him as a character. It's good to see him get some nice abilities in title defense.

@haraldhey9210 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but since you can block it you don't have to react to it as long as you preemptively hold down the block button.

@metallabx407 5 ай бұрын

Here is a list in order of bosses' fastest attack #1: Doc Louis - 0.25s(jab for star) #2: Mr Sandman - 0.32s(dreamland express) #3-4: Bald Bull - 0.37s(uppercut) #3-4: Soda Popinski - 0.37s(uppercut) #5: Super Macho Man - 0.43s(r. uppercut) #6-7: Donkey Kong - 0.45s(backhand) #6-7: Von Kaiser - 0.45s(r. jab) #8-9: Aran Ryan - 0.5s(lunging r. elbow) #8-9: Glass Joe - 0.5s(jabs) #10: Piston Honda - 0.52s(eyebrow jab) #11-12: Great Tiger - 0.53s(clone uppercut) #11-12: King Hippo - 0.53s(jab) #13: Disco Kid - 0.55s(jabs) #14: Don Flamenco - 0.62s(spinning backhand) #15: Bear Hugger - 0.7s(r. overhead)

@UmongusSussehFrusseh Жыл бұрын

If you included TD Soda Popinski's stage 3 punches, they'd probably top the list.

@LoneSWarrior Жыл бұрын

I knew I wasn't crazy saying he is the hardest opponent in the game.

@AceTechn0 Жыл бұрын

If it wasn’t for the “pssk” (right) and “pskkeh” (left) sound whenever he attacks, pretty sure he would be harder than Sandman

@jetkirby3981 Жыл бұрын

I really wanted to see these included

@fragranced9258 Жыл бұрын

Am I weird for not taking that long on him, even then, once I beat him it was a no hit run. I noticed pretty quickly that he has an order of punches that pretty short and was easy to remember at the time, so I was able to sweep early and lock him in rage mode for the rest of the fight

@danielbarker2522 Жыл бұрын

@@fragranced9258 easy to look up and execute, but big cap for figuring it out. That shit takes everyone an entire day usually

@coopheheheha Жыл бұрын

glass joe’s punch: 0.50 seconds. Everyone ever: impossible

@noxidgaming1114 Жыл бұрын

Ironically, Soda's slowest punch is the one I have the most trouble dodging.

@newnixer3775 Жыл бұрын

1:33 perfect timing.

@bludgeon1081 Жыл бұрын

It's important to know that some punches are harder to dodge despite being at the same speed for two reasons, 1: Animation Some attacks are easier to telegraph than others. The movement of the boxer plays a role in player's perception of the attack. 2: Conditioning Some boxers will have faster attacks that condition players to dodge early. This, in turn, will cause the player to get hit by an incoming delayed attack.

@harleymitchelly5542 Жыл бұрын

For number 2, Bear Hugger says hello. "Catch and Release!" brings back more than a few not-good memories. It's amazing what can be done with a simple staggering of your timing.

@lucasbeck1391 Жыл бұрын

Telegraphing is not reading the move It's telling your opponent what you're gonna do

@rossl03 Жыл бұрын

4:25 the music picks up as bald bull and soda start uppercutting in unison

@AnAveragePurplePikmin 18 күн бұрын

The most powerful duo

@UmongusSussehFrusseh Жыл бұрын

3:10 Bruh. GJ and Sandman punching at the same speed?

@dinosore_rs Жыл бұрын

Goes to show how shocking Glass Joe TD is immediately after Contender Sandman.

@kezgt1932 Жыл бұрын

This is how he beat nick

@makoshark7122 Жыл бұрын

To be fair, sandman is doing a roll beforehand, which TECHNIcally increases the startup, but how long it takes for him to throw the punch by itself is quicker

@dmansuperich2800 Жыл бұрын

Good stuff, your editing on these videos are great. It's so cool to see all of this side by side in a simple way.

@philive1681 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I just started editing a few months ago. It's fun to keep learning stuff. I'll keep getting better.

@dmansuperich2800 Жыл бұрын

@@philive1681 Glad that you're striving for improvement, that's great to see in a content creator.

@Silly-Goose-OG Жыл бұрын

They sure feel a lot faster than that. Except for TD Bald Bull’s delayed rolling punch. That feels like an eternity.

@nicocchi Жыл бұрын

Interesting, they're all avoidable on reaction, but you need to have good reflexes. Realistically, 10 frames of reaction time if paying attention is reactable on average (and some people can do better) And yet, you still get hit left and right lol

@shirothefish9688 Жыл бұрын

Average human's reaction time is 300ms if I recall. So the last 2, and arguably anything below .4 is unreactable for the average. Gamers do have a lower average though, so gamers could react to most all of it if they got "quick feet"

@dinosore_rs Жыл бұрын

A delayed punch after instant punches from the same opponent also plays a factor! The fast punches condition you to dodge fast, then a delayed punch comes and you dodge too early.

@vantablack3327 Жыл бұрын

@@dinosore_rs I know this felling all too well I recently emulated punch-out and I had to know a delay was coming to not dodge too early especially with TD Macho Man and his left and right spin uppercuts.

@nileprimewastaken Жыл бұрын

add input delay and you have ~15 frames, which means that doc louis's star punch is literally unreactable also i know this is a joke dont woosh me

@Mountain_Chicken1 Жыл бұрын

You also need to remember that the first few frames you cannot dodge with

@thetrophygamer3606 Жыл бұрын

Funny detail when DK’s pinch ranked at 19 hits Mac it’s in time with the music a bit Edit: for those that haven’t played punch out and are curious as to how your suppose to dodge some of these attacks your generally given a sound cue or a specific animation to show its coming. Though some don’t and you have to know it’s coming.

@UmongusSussehFrusseh Жыл бұрын

2:10 wow the Spin Punch is alot slower than I thought

@philive1681 Жыл бұрын

Well he's gotta make it look good first. Flex for the fans, or himself.

@dinosore_rs Жыл бұрын

It was faster in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out but could be dodged in any direction. This one can only be ducked under.

@TheOneWhoAsked37 Жыл бұрын

4:47

@conntoons_4848 Жыл бұрын

2:56 3:05 Just some of my favorite side by side comparisons

@NessMother2 Жыл бұрын

I knew that star jab from Doc Louis would be at the top, it keeps me from sleeping at night to this very day...

@jerodmcallister1974 Жыл бұрын

Red Soda is really tough. Around a 3rd of a second? Yeah that sounds about right. I've gotta fight Doc one of these days.

@UmongusSussehFrusseh Жыл бұрын

Lol, more like one tenth of a second.

@bigbrianislarge5046 Жыл бұрын

if super drunk popinski was included i quite certain he would top the list

@lrodshrek6086 Жыл бұрын

The delay on the bull charge has several variations

@wilsonso5784 Жыл бұрын

I know reaction time decays overtime because I was able to react to the fastest of these ones just fine and now I get wrecked by King Hippo TD easily.

@Pikazilla Жыл бұрын

The average person has about a 1/4 second reaction time. Doc is cheating.

@canadiancanucklehead8310 Жыл бұрын

Soda’s Sidestep hooks give me ptsd

@warpey5632 Жыл бұрын

4:08 The attack durations match with the music

@UndeadSlasher44 Жыл бұрын

real nice how soda popinski doesn't appear until 3:34

@Youareprettycool Жыл бұрын

“I’m finally a fully rounded fighter Mac!”

@TearingUser935 Жыл бұрын

The more it goes on the more on beat they are

@omlett6482 Жыл бұрын

i like how the punches sync up with the beat towards the end

@imagamerguy Жыл бұрын

It’s funny how when the Minor Circuit “Mac Down” theme starts playing as soon as Popinski and Bull’s uppercuts just sync with it and then Sandman start smashing you

@maragazh9993 Жыл бұрын

These would be great gifs to punch friends on discord with

@gengarisnotinsmash... Жыл бұрын

So the average humans reaction time is .2 to .25 seconds... Anyone know how many frames it takes to get dodge invuln in punch out? You could add that value to the average reaction time to get a reasonable idea of how fast most players can dodge punches, and find which attacks are truly unreactable.

@ryebread4993 Жыл бұрын

None of them are. Cause if there was it’d be unfair and punch out don’t roll that way

@UnethicalExperimental Жыл бұрын

Like the reply above said, it's not about reaction speed. Anyone can breeze through the game if they all punched for 22 frames and your dodge has true i-frames. The key factor here is variation. Which hand is being thrown, which timing is it, making sure you're not dodging a taunt you could get a star from, which direction to dodge or block, etc. The difficulty is in the mind-games, the ability to predict and read the opponent's behavior. Kinda like baseball. If every pitch was a fastball, it would get predictable.

@TheGreatMagicspeller Ай бұрын

With the Power of a Super Low Frames Per Second, Most Boxers are Super Slow in My Gameplay(including mr sandman), but TD Versions of Soda Popinski and Super Bogus Man are the only Ones with Super Fast Speed that Not Even the Low Frames can Help TD Soda Popinski’s Speed will Increase after getting Knocked Down, Eventually His Speed will just be Insanely Fast that You Can’t Dodge It/Dodged in Wrong Direction TD Super Bogus Man is Still Normally an Easy World Circuit Boxer, But His 3rd Super Clothesline is Very Hard to Dodge Because Your Duck will Enter a Short Yet Deadly Cooldown (btw an unwanted effect of super low fps is all sounds will be extremely corrupted, yet piston hondo is not a problem because of the slowed speed)

@OwO-nk1zv Жыл бұрын

I like how the human reaction time is a quarter of a second 1/4 or 0.25 So doc literally attack with a exact speed for u to react, but at the same time not have time to react (Unless u are already skilled at the game)

@rafael502 Жыл бұрын

This is such a cool cut! Great job!!

@UmongusSussehFrusseh Жыл бұрын

4:11 ok no way Macho Man's uppercuts are that fast.

@infinityheart_tm9270 Жыл бұрын

Man he wasn’t kidding when he said “Duck this one” because those are literal bullets he’s punching out.

@kurtmatteson4914 Жыл бұрын

What about Mac? He'd top the list for sure, but I'm curious as to where the Star Punch would fall.

@colmecolwag Жыл бұрын

star punch would be hard to measure due to how it slows down time. you'd have to measure it in the Vs mode which isn't /truly/ the way Mac boxes normally, but you can get answers I guess?

@Youtuber24683 Жыл бұрын

Alt Title: +4.5 Minutes of Mac Slowly Heading Towards an Early Grave.

@Laperapolvorienta 2 ай бұрын

Little Mac Should be tier god

@GionaPis-yr3pv 11 ай бұрын

@philive1681 the Sandman's "left jab" Is actually left delayed hook

@magik4353 Жыл бұрын

Wink Uppercut went to the beat of the song

@sirchris6047 6 ай бұрын

soda hook feels like it hits frame 0

@Munajakja Жыл бұрын

Watching this in 2x speed was crazy

@TheMemeMann Жыл бұрын

By the number 10s they're hitting mac to the beat of the music

@piersmilk 11 ай бұрын

Lol

@unknown0607 2 ай бұрын

Who punched perfectly beat song?

@vonkaiserandgun 4 ай бұрын

Von kaiser has the 10th fastest punch? Jeez... Only world circuit fighters have faster punches!

@Shady_Fungus Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was thinking DK should be on of the fastest on here. I could not get his rhythm down and there was sometimes little tell to his moves. I don’t know how I beat him.

@Postie1994 Жыл бұрын

Hm, even when it would be much work most likley: You have now the damage of each attack and its speed. So you could do a list of Damage per second for the moves, what boxer uses effectivly its wind up time for damage. I know there will be outlier like the 1-hit KOs but eh. ^^

@UnethicalExperimental Жыл бұрын

Some characters like to sit pretty for a while in between punches, so it would have to be for specific sections of behavior where they be more active.

@TheCompleteMental Жыл бұрын

How fast are mac's punches

@thenotfanofnintendo 9 ай бұрын

The coach is faster 85 of most moves in this game wow (yes i know his name is doc louis)

@UnclePhil07 Жыл бұрын

Little mac has benn through alot....

@ecstaticwooper368 Жыл бұрын

dreamland express is hard to react to, more at 11

@fnf_noob Жыл бұрын

How did you know how long are the animations? Did you look into the files?

@TotalDramaHarold Жыл бұрын

I think he just timed them

@loganpowers3875 Жыл бұрын

Can you do the same, but with Super KO Boxing 2?

@Angel-bz5jm Жыл бұрын

Coming from playing a lot of fighting games it's strange to see times like 0.5 seconds (the equivalent of frame 30) being referred to as not complete ass

@metallabx407 4 ай бұрын

They made it so players can dodge all attacks while in fighting games, getting hit seems to be inevitable.