You were never a good and faithful Protestan, you was a uneducated individ that moved from a religion to another not because you were looking for the truth but because you were uneducated in the Bible teachings. Probably you never read the entire Bible for front to back.You were looking for a religion that tickle your ears and to make you fill good about yourself.

Welcome home to the only church founded by Jesus Christ. Please ignore the rude remark by the Protestant. I was Protestant for 55 years and history is on the side of the Catholic Church. God bless you.

Purgatory is only for believers who are destined for heaven. It's for the final purification, because 'nothing impure shall enter heaven' (Revelation 21:27). All practising Christians (Catholics & Protestants) believe in 'sanctification', the process to become more Christ-like, which is required of all disciples of Christ. "Be perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect" (Matt 5:48). It's a lifelong process & few people will be that perfect when they die; so this sanctification process may continue after death for some Christians, before their souls finally enter heaven. Concerning our fate for eternity, it's either only heaven or hell. Purgatory is temporary, & only for those going to heaven.

@@RosalindToh That's my understanding, as well. Thank you, Rosalind!

@@JesusfoundedCatholicChurch My conclusion exactly! Thank you!

Learn all you can about salvation and focus on Christ as God's word tells you in Heb 12:2 Hebrews 9:27 points to no place for a clean up that purgatory claims. You are either in Christ and He in you or you are an unbeliever. Heaven or hell no final place for you to atone for sins when it is Christ who already atoned for your sins once and for all.

Purgatory is not of God, it's man's invention. Get a bible and throw out that crap called the catholic Bible.

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 sez "Heaven or hell no final place for you to atone for sins when it is Christ who already atoned for your sins once and for all." You are 100% correct in this. And this doesn't rule out post-death completion of a believer's sanctification through the final application of the Blood of the Cross to the person. That's all Purgatory is, it is a process, not a place. It is the last stage of a believer's sanctification, for those who die with some lingering attachments to sin. (This excludes un-repented mortal sins. Purgatory is not a second chance. Our life on Earth is our only chance.)

@@AmericanBerean Interesting how you agree with 1 Peter 2:24 and then state for those who die with some lingering attachments to sin. Christ atoned for every sin and there are no lingering sins . Purgatory is man made and contradicts the complete atonement for all of our sins. I am completely sin free in the eyes of God , yet I sin every day . I am still sin free in the eyes of God because Jesus has atoned for every sin I have done , am doing , or will do. I am righteous because of Christ, I have the gift of salvation through faith, I do not depend on works to supplement my salvation , and I try to do the works that God created me for Eph2:10 Romans 7 speaks about sin and it is repeated twice to get your attention. Interesting because I thought it was me who was sinning and could not stop no matter how much I tied to.

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 "I am completely sin free in the eyes of God , yet I sin every day . I am still sin free in the eyes of God because Jesus has atoned for every sin I have done , am doing , or will do." Yes, Jesus dies for ALL our sins... when we're born again into God's family, we are a clean slate. Our rebirth removed the primary effect of Adam's Sin (eternal separation from God), and forgave us of all our past sins, if any. But we still bear the secondary effects of that original Sin (weakened will, disordered desires, inhibited intellect), collectively known as concupiscence, the tendency to sin. So, as children of God, we can still sin and we're not forgiven those present and future sins until we commit and repent of them. If we don't repent of whatever sin, we are not forgiven of it. So, if we die in that state of unrepented venial sin, we'll be finally purified in the process of Purgatory before we can get into heaven. In the case of a mortal sin (deliberate commission of a "sin unto death", as John puts it), we lose our salvation, until such time as we repent of it and confess it for forgiveness. If a child of God is in a state of mortal sin, he has separated himself from God, and if he dies unrepentant, he is bound for Hell. (That is the "unforgivable sin" Jesus spoke of in Matthew.) Jesus' Sacrifice was not a blanket forgiveness of all believers' sins of all time. That is a new and novel idea, from the 16th century or later, amounting to a doctrine of man.

"I have found zero progress", you say. But, fret not. There's a good chance that you planted a bug in their mind that will manifest later. One data point, that along with other data points they may have heard, or will hear, will lead them to realize the veracity of Catholic doctrine. Keep on truckin', bro.

Well you have an advantage as you don't believe the bible to be complete and as a roman Catholic you have been taught that the church is the authority and not the bible. purgatory is the state in which the individual atones for the sins that were unconfessed and un repented of in a stage between earth and heaven. Odd that 1 Peter 2:24 points out that Jesus has atoned for all the sins of the believer? You do not find any teaching by anyone in the scriptures about this . Heb 9:27 appears to state the opposite of what you accepted.

@@AmericanBerean Amen. Seeds take time to grow. People rarely change their minds on big topics in one conversation.

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Yes, Jesus has atoned for all sins of all time of all people, BUT, that atonement is not a blanket forgiveness of everyone's every sin ever, but it is atonement in principal and is applied only when a person repents and confesses and desires reconciliation with God. Most of us will die without having been perfected in this life, having some lingering attachments to a sinful thing or two, so those last dredges of sin will be removed by the Blood of Jesus after we die, so we can be finally and fully sanctified in order to get into heaven. That is Purgatory.

@trollpatrol7215 Yes, and along with that, when a person finds themself in that purging process, an immense joy of knowing with infallible certitude that they will see God face to face!

If you suffer for your sins in a flame then the cross of Christ is of no effect to you, you are trying to enter through another door, but Jesus says, " I am the door by me if any man enter in he shall be saved." Jesus died for your sins, if you have to pay even one penny for your sins then you deny the cross, you make the blood of Jesus ineffective in your life, no one will see God except through the blood of the cross, no one.

@trollpatrol7215 sounds like you have no idea of what a believer in Christ who is not a roman Catholic actually believes. You have heard and parroted.

@@alfran03 Yes, Jesus died to save us from eternal fire... Purgatory is only a waiting place of purification, in other words, you can still be saved and have to enter into purgatory. Once you are fully holy in the eyes of the lord, then you can enter his kingdom.

God's will, yes. but will you love him if you are wrong? Jesus tells many who he tells I never knew you who claim him.

Interesting read. As Christ has forgiven every sin and we are perfect in the eyes of God because of what Christ has done there is no need to do a final clean up in purgatory.. Everyone who is saved but is not ready for heaven needs purgatory. . Flaw found . You are saved and washed in the blood of the lamb, you are sanctified and justified as 1 Cor 6:11 points out in the past tense As flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of God , we are not able to make ourselves clean on this planet. Christ has done that completely already the moment you repent , confess your sins , get baptized , confess the Lord to others, you are completely sin free in the eyes of God. Think of it as showing up at the biggest celebration of the century in the biggest city of the world with a red carpet entryway and cameras flashing, celebrities being interviewed and people going in one by one. Then you show up and you realize that you hadn’t showered or shaved in weeks, you smell, your clothes are filthy, and you have no shoes. What’s more, you were just mugged and you’re battered and bleeding. It’s clear you aren’t presentable enough to go into the party and aren’t even healthy enough, even if you could manage to clean yourself up. So you get cleaned up and check yourself into a hospital and wait for the healing process to complete. Yes and what you seem to miss here is the Lord cleans and heals the person before he walks into the celebration. A different story if the person is not a believer. Now, most of us are not ready for heaven. On our own , no we are not ready for heaven . With Christ in our lives then we are ready for heaven Col 2: 9-15 EVEN if we had recently gone to confession we still have what is called a “temporal inclination to sin”. Romans 7: gives you a valid clue to what sin is and we die as sinful people but spiritually we are alive in Christ. In other words, our will is not automatically and habitually inclined toward loving God completely. To shed that inclination is difficult. It’s painful. And it happens here while you live as after you die Heb 9:27 does not give you a third option.

@Troll Patrol read the scriptures I have supplied in the previous comment as the scriptures / God's written word has all the authority.

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 I agree.

Long winded nonsense.

I agree. You can't just go to heaven as is. You have to purge yourself of your earthly ways and connections before you move on.

We Catholics believe that. There is only one judgement, one. But the outcome of the judgement is not always go free or be condemned to the death penalty. Sometimes it's stay in jail until you pay the last penny; then, after you pay your debt, go free. Protestants only see go free or die.

Yes, after death we are judged. if we died in the friendship of God, we are judged to be able to get into heaven. But if we have some lingering attachments to sin, He will finish sanctifying us before we get into heaven, because only perfectly pure people can be there. If we die in a state of rebellion (ie unrepented mortal sin), we are judged accordingly and won't get into heaven.

@@mariasoniamoreno3433 Ok so you believe this , why? what basis do you put your beliefs on? Scripture is clear that there is the great white throne judgment fo all of man kind and there is the Bema seat of Christ for all believers. So in a way you are correct , one judgement . If you are a believer that judgement is found in 1 Cor 10-15 , where we are judged on what we did with what Christ gave us to build upon the foundation of Christ. As a believer you will never go near the great white throne judgement.

Yes, he confessed and repented of his sin. And he paid his time in purgatory on the cross

You write truthfully.

Saint Dismas is in paradise with Christ.

@@ericlammerman2777 I never saw the thief's name mentioned. Where is that?

That thief had faith and repented before he died, if it’s the one I’m thinking of.

@@mschmidt1645 Yes, Jesus will not Lie, Today You will be with Me in Paradise... ( The Thief alone would , do many thousands of Years, according to some who make up this sentencing in this world, Worse they believe they can be set Free on Saturdays If Mary sees them wearing some Cloth ) total Blasphemy

He is still in a nonexistent state. He will be resurrected under Jesus 1,000 year rule of this earth (Acts 24:15). When he opens his eyes he will find himself in paradise. It will be like a few moments ago Jesus made that promise to him. Even though many thousands of years have passed.

There is no purgatory. It is not in scripture.

Luke 16 just speaks of the hereafter. We either go to heaven or hell. There is no third choice. Some people may lose their rewards but never your salvation, once you are saved. The Holy Spirit keeps us and the Bible says "He seals us until the day of Judgment."

@@patmelton43 How do you interpret the part that says “the person will be saved, but only as through fire?” What is the fire? 1 Corin 3:15

@@mschmidt1645 Fire of Holy Spirit, I think.

@@mschmidt1645 the fire in 1 Cor 3 is “the day” of future judgment, which will test the quality of our works and mercifully burn them up (ie., our works, not us) if they are found to be wanting. The loss suffered in that case is a loss of reward. It is a single “day” of judgment, still future, corporate, public, and brief. No mention of them waiting long ages while their works are being burned. Rather, we should imagine this loss of reward happening in an instant.

Yes it would be specially when you do not know the scriptures for yourself and do not see where Scott is telling you the roman Catholic version of events and not the scriptural version of truth that does not condone a fabricated lie called purgatory. Read the context of every verse given to you to prove purgatory and you will find errors.

So regale us with the convincing truth about purgatory and prove from scripture that it is true?

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Read 2 Maccabees 12:39-46 While it's not in most Protestant Bibles, it's been a part of the original Bible and all Catholic Bibles since about 397AD. It was the Old Testament that the Apostles quoted from. Matthew 12:30-32 (RSV2CE): 30 ¶ He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31 ¶ Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.† 32 And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Here, Jesus is talking about the forgiving of sins. You cannot be forgiven in hell and there is no sin in heaven so obviously Jesus is talking about somewhere else where sins are forgiven. Obviously He's talking about purgatory You should know that Christianity is not based on only what is found in the Bible but what God has taught us through His Word, found in both oral traditions and written traditions. While I used to be a Bible only Protestant, the Word of the Lord came to me and showed me I was in error. Satan can deceive others and I was deceived many years by being in a Protestant church. Protestantism isn't from God even though members profess love for our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 (RSV2CE): 15 ¶ So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.

@@JesusfoundedCatholicChurch Read 2 Maccabees 12:39-46 Ahhh yes the chosen verses to presnt praying for the dead , not found anywhere else in scripture ! So maybe you should read the context of 2 Maccabee's 12:? Purgatory has no basis in scripture and when you take a bit of time read up on all the verses used to convince you of purgatory ,and then make sure that the context of those verses prove what the cherry picked verses are correct? 2 Maccabee's 12 : 1. who died 2. why did they die? 3. who killed them ? 4.did they repent of their sins before they died ? 5. Was Judas correct in praying for them to attain godliness? Now find in the new testament where un repentant sinners get prayed into heaven? Matthew 12:30-32 (RSV2CE): 30 ¶ He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31 ¶ Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.† 32 And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. The context is showing you that Blasphemy is the main subject and it will not be forgiven in this age or the one to come , not now not ever. There is no forgiveness of sins unless asked for / repented of and the new testament is quite clear on the matter. Here, Jesus is talking about the forgiving of sins. You cannot be forgiven in hell and there is no sin in heaven so obviously Jesus is talking about somewhere else where sins are forgiven. Obviously He's talking about purgatory So your conclusion does not include life on earth where you confess your sins and God removes all your sins and Jesus atones for all of your sins. You should know that Christianity is not based on only what is found in the Bible but what God has taught us through His Word, found in both oral traditions and written traditions. Yes the roman Catholic teaching so that scripture is shown to be unreliable as truth and must be supplemented! While I used to be a Bible only Protestant, the Word of the Lord came to me and showed me I was in error. Satan can deceive others and I was deceived many years by being in a Protestant church. Protestantism isn't from God even though members profess love for our Lord Jesus Christ. The deceived do not realize they are deceived and that is why everything you are taught is to be questioned Acts 17:11 not just accepted because the guy up in the pulpit said so. Priest or pastor , it does not matter , you are to question everything. 1229 A.D. The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed on the Index of Forbidden Books by the Council of Valencia. 1251 A.D The Scapular invented by Simon Stock, an English monk. This is statements that the one Holy roman Catholic church believes are true ? No scripture verse to form any basis of belief but you are told to believe it? So wrap your brown scapular over your shoulder and depend on that strip of cloth for protection because obviously God or the Holy Spirit is not enough? Heb 4:15,16 2 Thessalonians 2:15 (RSV2CE): 15 ¶ So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter. And now we have the written word that we can read and quote from . Oral is no longer used or required. Traditions that include pagan beliefs are not required for the believer. 1 Peter 2:24 Jesus atones for all of our sins while we live and there is no need fora clean up in purgatory as our sins are totally forgiven and our flesh will never be in heaven.

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Obviously you think you're God and can dictate what is acceptable beliefs and what is not. Last I heard through scripture, the Church (meaning the Catholic Church) is the pillar and foundation of truth. So anything the Catholic Church teaches comes from God Almighty. Anything the Church says, God agrees to since the Catholic Church is guided by the Holy Spirit. Not you, not I. I just prefer to follow Jesus Christ and obey what He says. That's why I left my unbiblical Protestant church and converted to Catholicism. Because He said He founded the Catholic Church. The ones that the Apostles taught says His Church is the Catholic Church. Sounds as if you disagree with God. My prayers for you for conversion lifted up to God.

@@JesusfoundedCatholicChurch So regale us with the convincing truth about purgatory and prove from scripture that it is true? I see from your last comment that you avoided answering the question and instead rattled off Obviously you think you're God and can dictate what is acceptable beliefs and what is not. Nope i have asked you a question and you in your reply have chosen to go in a different direction because from scripture you can not defend purgatory!!! the Church (meaning the Catholic Church) The Church meaning the body of Christ Eph 2:19-22 is the pillar and foundation of truth. So anything the Catholic Church teaches comes from God Almighty. 600 A.D. Prayers directed to Mary, dead saints and angels.* 607 A.D. Title of pope, or universal bishop, given to Boniface III by Emperor Phocas. 709 A.D. Kissing the pope's foot, began with Constantine. 750 A.D. Temporal power of the popes conferred by Pepin, king of the Franks. 786 A.D. Authorised worship of the cross, images and relics. 850 A.D. Holy water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by a priest. 890 A.D. Worship of Saint Joseph. scripture Anything the Church says, God agrees to since the Catholic Church is guided by the Holy Spirit. Ahhh it must be nice for the magisterium of the roman church to tell God what He is to agree to as if He has no choice? I just prefer to follow Jesus Christ and obey what He says. That's why I left my unbiblical Protestant church and converted to Catholicism. If you obey what Christ said why do you believe the church and some of it's false doctrines and claim you are following Christ exclusively? Because He said He founded the Catholic Church. Really where does Jesus ever say that He founded a denomination ? roman Catholicism only started after 385 AD , Jesus never named His church , Man did . Jesus is the only way to God and the roman Catholic church teaches that Mary is co- redemptix with Jesus . You just can not find Jesus founding the evolving Catholic / roman Catholic church. The ones that the Apostles taught says His Church is the Catholic Church. Again where do you find Catholic in the scriptures? Sounds as if you disagree with God. Sounds to me like you are ignoring established scripture and following an organized group that tells you what to believe. So back to that question you have tried so hard not to answer? So regale us with the convincing truth about purgatory and prove from scripture that it is true?

No such thing, all Christians are saints and God's grace is perfect for all believers

@@user-fg3nr5ub6e So you're of the opinion that Hitler is in Heaven?

everybody is in sin, the bible says that all people are "wretched sinners".

All believers are saints.God purifies us on the cross. Paul said that after all he is an unprofitable servant. Our works are burnt up but we are saved by the skin of our teeth. Christ has put away all sin forever. Are you saying that Christ’s work on the cross is insufficient for salvation? The argument must answer this question. Otherwise why the cross?

@@tedprice5828 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the LAWLESS and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen. (2 Peter 3:15-18)

He took out the junk.

@@kevinhutchins4222 Under who's authority?

@@T...P... The Holy Spirit's.

@@kevinhutchins4222 Please elaborate. Was the Holy Spirit only guiding one man and everyone else was not listening to the Holy Spirit? Martin Luther alone was the "chosen one" eh? Everyone else blind to what God wanted for the one thousand five hundred years of Catholic Christianity? Because to me it sounds like one priest started a heretical movement and now people hide behind the idea of "God told me so" to justify their non-authority. I can say the Holy Spirit led me to one thing, and you can say the Holy Spirit led you to another thing. What we're left with is this: 1. The Holy Spirit led us to separate paths a.k.a. contradicting truth claims. (So this is not a viable option.) 2. The Holy Spirit led one of us to the correct truth, and the other person was not guided by the Holy Spirit. (Which one of us is which then?) 3. Neither of us were directly guided by the Holy Spirit and we just made our own decisions without any direct influence/personal "revelation" from God. (Because let's face the fact that the Holy Spirit doesn't reveal things to us like we're prophets.)

​@@kevinhutchins4222😂 and now there's approx 40 000 different Protestant denominations because they can't agree with one another.... every time the holy spirit speaks they start another denomination with a fancy name

Yes it is Hard for them to accept the Truth, satan Loves their worship to him through man made statues, praying to and for the dead, Listening to Untested Spirits , medals beads, all give satan worship and takes away the worship direct to Jesus Alone who is the only Mediator to God the Father.... Makes me want to cry, sadly we can only pray ,before it is to late for them. to Be Born Again as Jesus said we must be...

@@beagle5 Thanks for your encouragement and response. Yes purgatory was established by Pope Sixtus 1V in 1476 when he wanted money for the building of Sistine Chapel. You could get indulgences by paying money. Today people are paying 10 dollars for Mass Cards for the dead.

They make up a bunch of self aggrandizing doctrines like claiming to be the first church, the church Christ established, rosaries, transubstantiation, etc. and then grasp at verses out of context to support said doctrines. By the way, purgatory makes no sense in light of the Pauline epistles, and Hebrews. We are sanctified by His blood and "He hath offered one sacrifice for sin forever."

That isn't biblical; but whatever.

@@ericlammerman2777 Marcos is absolutely right. If we could have saved ourselves, Jesus would not have had to die.

@@patmelton43 This is a incorrect understanding of historical Christianity. Nobody has ever argued the contrary, only had there been a wrong understanding of what the True Church of the past 2,000 years believes.

@@KyleVaughan1996 The true church has no name because Jesus Christ is the head of His church and we the brethren are his body with each having his/her purpose. The hand may not say to the foot, "I have no need of thee..."

@@patmelton43 “See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate a love-feast; but whatsoever he shall approve of, that is also pleasing to God, so that everything that is done may be secure and valid.” Written by Ignatius of Antioch, a direct disciple of John the Evangelist…

The Bible itself is another “doctrine” not in the Bible the Catholic church developed for the world. Dont forget that big one…🤷🏽‍♂ History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?

HELL...not purgatory as this was dreamt up by one of your Past Leaders,

Hi🙂 forgive me, I don't think I understand. So the rich man was in hell is what you're saying? The dream part, do you mean it wasn't a parable? I'm not sure about the leaders part. Do you mean Jesus? Or someone else? Thank you for your feedback. ❤️

Please anyone out there that can answer my question 🙏 I'm asking for the Catholic view on it. I'm not really looking for a "what's the right answer" if that makes sense. I already know the protestant view on this. Id like to know what Catholics believe.

​@@Jesusgirl00 The rich man is in hell. Purgatory is only for believers who are destined for heaven. It's for the final purification, because 'nothing impure shall enter heaven' (Revelation 21:27). All practising Christians (Catholics & Protestants) believe in 'sanctification', the process to become more Christ-like, which is required of all disciples of Christ. "Be perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect" (Matt 5:48). It's a lifelong process & few people will be that perfect when they die; so this sanctification process may continue after death for some Christians, before their souls finally enter heaven. It's either only heaven or hell for eternity (purgatory is temporary, & only for those going to heaven).

My biggest criticism of Catholicism is the worship and prayers to Mary. Mary was not sinless. First Commandment of our Lord is "Have no other gods before me" not to mention worshipping of angels and prayers for the dead. That is dead religion.

@@patmelton43the problem is that Protestants are the one insisting we Catholics worship the Blessed Mother this question really baffles me. We love The Blessed Mother just like our mother she is the Mother of the Catholic Church. We honour her just like Jesus honour her. She was created by God and whatever power she has comes all from God. We never treat her as a goddess. Now my question to you is are better than Jesus Christ? If The Blessed Mother is enough for Jesus if Jesus love His mother so much, why can’t you? Why is the blessed mother enough to you?

@isabel I love conversion stories and I’m so excited for you. Welcome home. What Protestants need to understand is purgatory exist because of the mercy of God. He love us so much that he won’t send us straight to hell if we die unclean only if we don’t have mortal sin. So purgatory is a blessing for us to totally purify ourselves before we get to heaven. Because sins has consequences we still owe God a debt in that way we can pay Our debts in purgatory. What a blessing.

@@Maya-yp2ey Give me an example of that because I think you are lying. Why would protestant tell catholics anything except stop your works-based religion?

@@Maya-yp2ey Scripture for that?

Yes, and mostly because they don't really understand some of the doctrines and practices, such as using blessed prayer tools, aka sacramentals, as you do. They don't understand that we are not worshiping that object but only using it to enhance our worship of God. Now, someone who doesn't feel they need such help, that's fine, they don't HAVE to use these optional devotions.

No one is a born Catholic. Catholics must make the decision for themselves whether to accept the substitutionary sacrifice of Jesus for all of our sins or remain as the common man with it's consequences. Acts 2:38 can not apply to any baptized baby as if that takes away any sin. As to medals ? Late invention not found in the early church along with the rosary , brown scapular , or any other trinkets that the superstitious would use. Heb 12:2 tells who we are to focus on imitate Christ EPH 5:1 The weapons of our warfare are found in Eph 6:10-18 You might notice that medals, the rosary , and scapulars are not mentioned !

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 let me rephrase that - I was born into a practicing Catholic family; and I chose to remain in it. Sacramentals are part of the Catholic faith. Would you criticize a Jew for wearing a special prayer shawl and cap?

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Regarding your reference to Acts 2:38, saying baptism doesn't take away sin, Infant Baptism is the sign of God adopting that child as His own. As Paul points out, it is the sign of the New Covenant, as circumcision was the sign of the Old (Col2:11-12). Now, under the Old Covenant, they didn't have the Grace which Jesus provides for us in the New Covenant, so that now the sign of the Covenant actually conveys the Sactifying Grace which washes away the primary effect of Adam's Sin (which is everlasting separation from God), making the recipient Justified and Sanctified. (for an adult, his personal sins are also washed away). (Sins after baptism are another matter for another discussion, but suffice to say repentance and confession allow Grace to heal us then).

@@AmericanBerean Baptism does not remove sins at all ,it is symbolic of the death and resurrection of our lives dying to sin and being raised in new life as a new creation of God. Baptizing a baby to remove original sin sounds pious but has no basis in scripture. Every baptism found in the new testament involves a decision made by the individual. Babies are not capable of sin , repentance, confession of sin , or confession of faith in the savior. Sin is atoned for by Jesus 1 Peter 2:24 So why would you look to objects to provide protection for you from satans attacks when the scriptures point you to Eph 6:10-18 and not to objects?

You need to look at the context of every scripture presented as the truth of purgatory. You will find discrepancies!

I understand 'Purgatory' as a process of final purification (for those who are saved & destined for Heaven, but didn't complete the sanctification process during their earthly life; because "nothing impure shall enter Heaven", as stated in scriptures); but I've noticed many of our Protestant (& even some Catholic) brothers & sisters misunderstand 'Purgatory' as a 3rd 'judgment place' in addition to Heaven & Hell! Now, I've pondered about the concept of PLACE. I thought TIME & PLACE no longer exist in the AFTERLIFE; & only our temporary world/earthly life is limited by TIME & SPACE. So, Catholics' belief about some souls having to spend some TIME in Purgatory before they are released into Heaven (& some Catholics even offer prayers & sacrifices to help shorten the TIME for the souls in Purgatory) is 'MIND BOGGLING'! I DON'T BELIEVE in the concept of shortening the TIME spent in Purgatory, although I've been raised a Catholic.

So, in essence, what you're saying then is if we disagree with your point of view, it will be deleted? Isn't that censorship? As a former catholic, I'm respectfully asking.

@@danielmyers5338 no. It just means that if the comment is disrespectful and malicious only. Even if you disagree, I will not delete it as long as I see that you are open for dialog.

@@danielmyers5338 Why ask that when he made himself clear the first time? Is your post not still here, and not deleted? Regardless, can I ask why you left Catholicism?

​@@RosalindToh I think you hit on a key insight focusing on the concept of Purgatory as being entirely constrained by *time and space* . That is the key. Only *matter* is constrained by time and space! And yet, oddly, that does not specifically disallow the concept of Purgatory, but rather *reconciles it* with of all things ..... reincarnation! It's an unprovable theory surely, but one that does make sense to me because it explains the apparent injustices and inconsistencies between peoples' lives. Some short, some long, some more agonizing than others, etc., etc. Given enough iterations in the "loop," until the conditions are met for us to "exit the loop" onto another stage in our soul's existence, our soul may then have a chance to be judged more fairly with equal justice for all. What are we after all? Our bodies? Or are our bodies just like clothes, discardable matter once they have fulfilled their purpose? Just look at any mummy in a museum. Just dust and discarded debris. Nothing else remains there of the person it once was. In general, I think we are *not supposed* to know consciously how this stuff works so we are not biased as we go through our lives. Each life is a unique experience in ... learning for our souls. Maybe this is why we don't *generally* remember past lives consciously, except for some exceptional cases (if we are to accept some people's testimonials to that effect). Perhaps there is a *reason* for those specific cases, for their lives, and perhaps for our lives as well. Overall, I suspect it would be rather overwhelming or disheartening for most (as it is for me) to know this for real. I've had a revulsion to the idea of reincarnation. Just to think to have to repeat all the trials and tribulations I've gone through in this life (and most of humanity has had it worse), can be disheartening. Maybe that's why we are *spared* from remembering! Like I said, I do not *know* any of this epistemologically or scientifically. It's just an intuition, but one that makes some logical sense. It certainly makes more sense than a final condemnation, by a loving God, of a soul as a result of a single life's experience. Perhaps the Hindus were onto something here.

No He isn’t

based on his belief that Jesus sacrifice on the cross was not sufficient , Scott Hahn is not cooperating with the Holy Spirit in presenting the gospel of our Lord, but the gospel according to the roman Catholic church.

​@@brucewmclaughlin9072 "Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church," (Colossians 1:24) I don't think the Catholic Church teaches that Jesus' sacrifice on the cross was not sufficient for the salvation of sinners. My understanding was that He offered us the opportunity to suffer with Him on the cross in love (vicariously through our life's sufferings), so that we could be more fully incorporated into the eternal love of the Holy Trinity. Certainly His sacrifice was more than enough, (infinitely so), but it is in His desire to be in relationship with us in the midst of our sin-torn life that He afforded us this opportunity to suffer with Him. And how lucky I am that this is the case, for now my suffering has meaning. What once was a death knell, sounding into the deep of my wounds, tempting me to despair, is now a clarion call of hope; for I am desired even in my sin and pain and suffering. I am called to struggle with Christ through it all, not allowing sin to characterize the deepest part of my heart, but rather Christ's call to crack open my smelly heart and pour it over Him, so that His infinite healing power can flow through me, and I can draw near to Him on the cross, and sin no more.

Amen. I think this is the only part of the video that he spoke about purgatory. You may watch the whole video linked in the description. Here is another explanation from Catholic Answers - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iK-Pqqeg1bvFgas.html

u r right this is gold

@@cherylyap2679 I understand 'Purgatory' as a process of final purification (for those who are saved & destined for Heaven, but didn't complete the sanctification process during their earthly life; because "nothing impure shall enter Heaven", as stated in scriptures); but I've noticed many of our Protestant (& even some Catholic) brothers & sisters misunderstand 'Purgatory' as a 3rd 'judgment place' in addition to Heaven & Hell! Now, I've pondered about the concept of PLACE. I thought TIME & PLACE no longer exist in the AFTERLIFE; & only our temporary world/earthly life is limited by TIME & SPACE. So, Catholics' belief about some souls having to spend some TIME in Purgatory before they are released into Heaven (& some Catholics even offer prayers & sacrifices to help shorten the TIME for the souls in Purgatory) is 'MIND BOGGLING'! I DON'T BELIEVE in the concept of shortening the TIME spent in Purgatory, although I've been raised a Catholic.

NO He didn't.

Abraham's bosom and Gehenna are both parts of Sheol, the realm of the dead. Then Christ sacrificed himself and went down to Sheol himself, to stage a massive jailbreak. The Lord led the righteous departed to Heaven, emptying Abraham's bosom. There is no purgatory, just like there will be no rapture. If it's new, it ain't true. Purgatory wasn't a thing for over 1,000 years after the death of our Saviour.

@@ericlammerman2777 Amen on all points!

Massive jailbreak 🤣🤣

@@ericlammerman2777 Amen. Those souls were sitting in the dark for ~5000 years, waiting on the light to rise. They saw Christ as a light rising and busting open the gates of hell. Lord Jesus defeated the evil one in a brilliant legal maneuver having counsel of the Father and Holy Ghost. And the thief on the cross was not told'today, you will be in a pagan purgatory, and then after many pagans praying for you, we will bring you to paradise"lol. I marvel at the mental gymnastics these Nicolatians do to stay in their sin and carnal lives. God Bless.

I'm similarly situated. It can be somewhat frustrating, so I just pray that they, as well as my Catholic relatives, just grow in the Spirit all the days of their lives. Because if they do, and the live long enough, they WILL become Catholic (because that is the FULLNESS of Earthly faith-practice).

I agree! Protestants CANNOT differentiate the difference of "Praying" FOR the dead vs. PRAYING TO THE DEAD, (NECROMANCY) as the falsely claim. The first is a humble request for the happy repose of our dearly beloved and the second on, (Praying TO the dead) is seeking information, a Mortal sin and strictly condemned by the Catholic Church.

@@juans6639Jesus said “why do you see the twig in your neighbor’s eye and not the log in yours.”

@@jimmy5634 Unfortunately today, (2,000 years later) there are over 70,000 False, Man Made, Reformed, Protestant, Religions and Churches who have a log in their eyes protesting against the One and ONLY Catholic founded by Jesus Christ and the Apostles in 33A.D, because Protestants, DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST! Mt.16:18-19 says very clearly that Jesus founded HIS CHURCH, (CATHOLIC! St. Ignatius of Antioch, direct disciple of the Apostle John called it that in 107A.D.) AND PROTESTANTS DON'T BELIEVE THAT!

That is why we need Jesus. Jesus’ blood alone cleanses the believer from all unrighteousness. It is hard to comprehend but that is why it takes faith to believe that God’s grace alone has rid the believer of his sin. For the believer, though he still may struggle with sin, God now sees His Son, the sinless Lamb having taken their place on the cross. To accept purgatory is to say that Jesus’ sacrifice wasn’t enough. Jesus went through the full extent of hell for us so that we wouldn’t have to.

what utter drivel. we get to heaven via the faith in the completed work of Christ on the cross, "not of works lest any man should boast"

@@austinfarlow2065 Again Purgatory is in the Jewish Bible Torah, Jesus our Lord is Jewish not American. Respect the ancestry and traditions of our Lord Jesus, read the Bible thru the Jewish tradition..period.

@@austinfarlow2065 This isn't a discussion about salvation. Catholics agree with you. However, Scripture is clear that believers will face the Judgment Seat of Christ...not to find out whether we are going to heaven or hell (heaven is a given as you have said, for those who are in Christ), but whether our works were good or bad. See 2 Cor. 5:10. Our bad or worthless works will be burned up; we will receive rewards for good works in Christ. Purgatory isn't hell. It is a final place of purification, and will ultimately determine each person's rank in heaven. Both Jesus and St. Paul spoke of this.

Catholics don't teach salvation by works. This was the first myth that got busted for me. However, we are also never saved apart from works (James 2:14-26; Hebrews 11, entire chapter). Here is the passage you quoted, but in context: Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith. This has not come from you but from the gift of God. 9 It does not come from works, so that no one can boast. 10 *For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for a life of good works that God had prepared for us to do.*

Bless you , this is True words of God AMEN

You didn’t listen to Dr Hahn. The translator of Biblical truth misses much if not a student of ancient languages. Protestants (I was a former evangelical) stand on their Bible’s which are incomplete. Listen to him again with an open mind and pray for revelation. Reading the early Church fathers began my journey back to Catholicism. May God open the eyes of your heart to the truth about church unity. REREAD JOHN 17:20-23. Disunity in these times when satan is attacking is not the time to quibble over jots and tittles.

They prayed for the dead because the dead are in the grave (nowhere else) until the Day of Resurrection. They didn't pray one "into" heaven because NO ONE goes to heaven or ever has or ever will. We resurrect on the New Earth.

@@barblacy619 👈coocoo

@@barblacy619 Oh, I took Hebrew.

@@Nonexistent10 To be absent from the body (dead) is to be present with God.

Dr.Scott Hann is just the one of the hundreds of thousands former staunch anti Catholic Evangelicals who converted to Catholicism .this yr in April another breaking record of Evangelicals who converted to Catholicism here in the US.there was even a contingent from Harvard University.its not just here ,but numerous former anti Catholic Pastors in Latin American countries,Philippines ,to name a few have also converted to HIS one and only Catholic church.Dr Hann exemplifies tha saying “ Protestant chuch gets the worst Catholics ,while Catholic church gets the best Protestant”. Shall people believe you or the thousands former anti Catholic Scriptual Scholars,Historians,Theologians,Pastors,Intellectuals ,to name a few ,who are now Catholic.Many more are following their footsteps. There have even Catholics,who became anti Catholic Evangelical Pastors ,who have now reverted to Catholicism.Some of these brilliant men and women of God took several yrs of intense studying for Christian truth and found it in the church they used to believe as whore of babylon,idolators,unbiblical and all other misconceptions and lies they had about Catholicism.read,read,read History and dig deeper!just to reiterate shall we believe you or them?

Maccabees was written after the Tanakh was established but they do read it The Jews pray FOR the dead (not to) because they are a little more intelligent about G-D than Christians are. The dead are dead. They haven't gone to heaven or torment or anywhere else. As the Bible is plain on the subject we "sleep" in the grave until the Day of Resurrection then after the Day of Resurrection comes the Day of Judgement. Read the Bible. Oh and one other thing, Paul was a false apostle. Acts chapter 1 verses 21 and 22 states the qualifications for an apostle and Paul NEVER had them.

The Jews that recognized Christ as the Son of God, the second person of the Trinity, DID hold Maccabees as scripture: That's why this book is in the versions of the Bible used by the apostolic churches (Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox) You want to follow the teachings of the Jews who were the bad guys in the Bible? Have at it. I agree, though, that praying for the dead is not direct evidence for purgatory. If you believe in purgatory, however, the practice supports that belief.

The only time I read Jesus pray for the dead was to raise them to life again. Completely different from praying their souls into heaven. That cannot be done. Remember the story of the rich man and Lazarus? There is a great gulf between and none can pass from one side to another.

Limbo was a terrible catholic lie. I come from a catholic family. My nan had to have her baby buried in unconsecrated ground because she was an unmarried mother. I don't believe in purgatory either. I believe in Jesus and his undying love for us to be saved.

@@annec988 the Jesus story is made up just like the limbo story

​@@annec988The patter does not contradict the former. Cheers!

Limbo was a theology opinion of some, but not all Catholics, and was not a doctrine, so can be accepted or not. Purgatory is a doctrine that cannot be changed, because God established that final purging process. It is a great merciful thing, because most of us children of God die with some lingering attachments to sin and need to have them purged, else we couldn't otherwise get into heaven. (That doesn't apply to un-repentant mortal sinners. Their destination is hell.)

Man cannot say this is Right ...Only the Word of God Is. Latin has limited words in translation. The Original Greek and Hebrew is the Correct

If the RCC is teaching the truth, to whom did this prophecy apply? It was to happen after the death of the apostles. (Acts 20:30) and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves. Just wondering.

@@tongakhan230 You could apply it to every heretic that the Church condemned and every Reformation and post reformation group that exists today.

@Troll Patrol Oh Dear..may My God forgive this what you have written.... You have called JESUS a LIAR... JESUS does NOT Lie

@@beagle5 "my" God. This is not helping anyone.

​@Troll Patrol He wrote that because the blood of Jesus purifies completely.

Paradise is where Abraham was and the parable of Lazarus being in his bosum. Our Lord Jesus Christ had NOT ascended into Heaven so the gates of Heaven were NOT open at that time. You can see where the rich man asked Father Abraham to ask Lazarus to dip his finger in water and bring it to him....(Also proof of intercession from Holy/Saints from) Abraham DID NOT say he couldn't send anyone to warn the rich man's brothers...Abraham said it would do no good! Since Our Lord Jesus Christ had NOT ascended into Heaven, he went and preached to the Spirits in PRISON, 1Pt.3:19-20 who had DISOBEYED since the days of Noah...8 were saved in all!...These Spirits were in PURGATORY...NOT HELL AS PROTESTANTS WANT YOU TO BELIEVE...ONCE CONDEMNED, NO ONE COMES OUT FROM HELL!

Yes, God had the power to forgive them. He's no longer among us. So purgatory exists. No one goes directly to Heaven.

No one is. There's no such thing.

Purgatory is only for believers who are destined for heaven. It's for the final purification, because 'nothing impure shall enter heaven' (as stated in the Book of Revelation). All practising Christians (Catholics & Protestants) believe in 'sanctification', the process to become more Christ-like, which is required of all disciples of Christ. "Be perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect" (Matt 5:48). It's a lifelong process & few people will be that perfect when they die; so this sanctification process may continue after death for some Christians, before their souls finally enter heaven. For eternity, it's either heaven or hell (purgatory is temporary).

@@RosalindToh Peugatory doesn't exist. It was created as a Catholic fund-raiser, to generate the needed capitol to build their shrine to Peter. Faithful Catholics would pay to have others pray for the souls of their passed-away loved ones. The emotional blackmail worked and the church became immensely rich. There is no need for a "final purification," because the blood of Jesus purifies to the uttermost. Meaning, there's nothing left to purify, once his blood has done the purifying. To say that we need the blood of Jesus *plus* something else--like purgatory--degrades the work of Jesus on your behalf. Don't do that.

Yes, it does cover every sin. It's just that a believer might be holding on to some sinful things at the time of their death. After death, then, the Blood of Christ is applied a final, completing time, purging the believer of all remaining attachments to sin and tendencies to sin, absolutely perfecting that soul for the rest of eternity. Purgatory does not deny the work of the Cross, it manifests it for the last time to the believer.

AMEN!!!

The misconception is that your sufferings and Christ's sufferings are somehow separate from one another. This is completely the opposite. It is in Purgatory that we're finally uniting ourselves with Christ's sufferings. We're truly aligning ourselves to be like Christ. Christ tells us himself to pick up our cross and follow him. That we will drink the same cup he does, he even warns the Apostles of this. "The way I see it, if Christ’s pains are not enough to cleanse me from sin completely, then no amount of suffering on my part is going to compensate. It is an insult to the blood of Christ to say it is insufficient to save-that it requires my two-cent contribution of pain. " If you're in Purgatory, you are already saved by the merits of Christ on the Cross. Your reward is eternal life in Heaven. Nothing is going to change that. The issue being though is that even though you acknowledged and accepted Christ's sacrifice on the Cross, you still had some attachment to sin when you died. That isn't because Christ failed to cleanse you. That's because you chose to dirty yourself and did not fully allow him to scrub you. Unless you want conclude that you died perfect and without sin. "It is laughable to suggest that my suffering would allow me to stand before God without embarrassment. If anything, it would make me more embarrassed." Why should you be embarassed other than it being an attack on your pride? The Apostles certainly weren't. They rejoiced in the fact that they were suffering in the name of the Lord, for the would share in His glory. "So they went on their way from the presence of the Council, rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for His name." Acts 5:41 "But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.” Acts 9:15-16 "Now if we are children, then we are heirs-heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory." Romans 8:17 "For what credit is there if, when you sin and are harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if when you do what is right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God." 1 Peter 2:20 "For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. 6 If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer. 7 And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort." 2 Corinthians 1:5-7 There's also an entire chapter in 2 Corinthians where Paul boasts in his own sufferings. "It is also a mistake to believe that anything less than eternal suffering on my part is enough for me to pay for even one little sin against God’s holiness. " You would be correct. For the wages of sins is death (Romans 6:23). For its only the merits of Christ that purchased for us the reward of eternal life. We're not Pelagianists. The sufferings we go through would be meaningless without Christ. "Neither my righteousness nor my suffering can ever make me worthy of heaven. Ever! Only Christ." Correct. We as Catholics agree with you. We said the same thing about Pelagianism.

@@Cklert thank you for your interaction. I do already understand all that you’re saying about purgatory. It still does not make any sense to me. You say that purgatory is me being more united to Christ and identifying with his suffering. However, the Bible never depicts any of that stuff as actually atoning for my sins! Only Christ’s suffering on the cross can accomplish that. His suffering paid for sins, and whoever trusts him is already worthy of heaven because of his work, full-stop. Conformity to Christ’s likeness is the goal of salvation, not the cause. It is a gracious gift to share in Christ’s sufferings, but that doesn’t save me or anyone. It doesn’t remove sin. It is a fruit of salvation-part of the gift. It is not part of the root. You say that I wold only be embarrassed by suffering in purgatory because it is a blow to my pride. But of course, that’s what embarrassment IS! A blow to one’s pride. That’s the very definition of embarrassment. So, why then did the original video insinuate that one purpose of our suffering in purgatory is so that we can stand before God without being embarrassed? I think it’s because you think I need to be PROUD of myself in order to stand before God! I need to be able to look at myself and be pleased with what I see! I need to be able to stand there at the end and say, Yup. I suffered enough. I’m good now. I was sufficiently punished for all my sins. Now I’m finally worthy to stand in God’s presence! Except I’m still not worthy. I never will be. That fact that I was purged in purgatory only proves that to be true. So, I’m still embarrassed after purgatory. Just more so now. The only solution is to look away from myself. I will never be worthy. A hundred billion years in purgatory will not change that. But the Lamb who was slain is worthy. And his righteous is more than enough for even me.

@@NomosCharis "You say that purgatory is me being more united to Christ and identifying with his suffering. However, the Bible never depicts any of that stuff as actually atoning for my sins! Only Christ’s suffering on the cross can accomplish that. His suffering paid for sins, and whoever trusts him is already worthy of heaven because of his work, full-stop. " We agree. The doctrine of Purgatory depends entirely on Christ's sacrifice. Perhaps I'm not being clear: *If you're in Purgatory, you have already been saved.* there is no maybe. Your reward is set and nothing will change that. Your soul is simply being prepared for perfection. As for the Bible never depicting that stuff. I'm sorry to say, that's incorrect. Hebrews 12:4-13 shows that God disciplines and gives us suffering to strengthen us against sin. That's why all the passages showcase the glory in suffering. "Conformity to Christ’s likeness is the goal of salvation, not the cause. It is a gracious gift to share in Christ’s sufferings, but that doesn’t save me or anyone. It doesn’t remove sin. It is a fruit of salvation-part of the gift. It is not part of the root." We agree, once again, *Purgatory is part of the gift of Salvation* it isn't a 'second chance to atone' it's simply the final process of sanctification that God gave us. He makes us perfect in this way. "You say that I wold only be embarrassed by suffering in purgatory because it is a blow to my pride. But of course, that’s what embarrassment IS! A blow to one’s pride. That’s the very definition of embarrassment. " Yes, and pride is a sin. It is dubbed "the queen of all sins." The opposite, humility, which is what Christ demonstrated. This is a non-sequitur. You cannot feel embarassment after Purgatory, because you would be in Heaven in the full Glory of the Lord. The fact that you were in Purgatory to begin with, proved that God did see you as worthy, not because of you or your merits obviously. But because you faithfully died in the Grace of Him. "So, why then did the original video insinuate that one purpose of our suffering in purgatory is so that we can stand before God without being embarrassed? I think it’s because you think I need to be PROUD of myself in order to stand before God! I need to be able to look at myself and be pleased with what I see! I need to be able to stand there at the end and say, Yup. I suffered enough. I’m good now. I was sufficiently punished for all my sins. Now I’m finally worthy to stand in God’s presence! " He's quoting 1 John: 2:28: "And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at his coming." And I'm actually proclaiming the opposite of being proud. I didn't think I need to explain this, but when we're finally in the presence of God, all our sins will be revealed to us. The Truth will be revealed to us. We will be ashamed of them. What John is saying is that by remaining and following Christ, even his suffering, God humbles us, so that we bear no shame, no pride, and no attachment to our sins. "Except I’m still not worthy. I never will be. That fact that I was purged in purgatory only proves that to be true. So, I’m still embarrassed after purgatory. Just more so now. " Except, once again that's not how Purgatory works. It is fair to say that you're not worthy. We're ALL not worthy. But the fact that you were in Purgatory, means that God saw that you *were* worthy by His Grace. It is only through the inviation of Christ are we worthy. But to say that you will never be worthy is dangerously close to self-hatred and despair. Against Jesus message of Love and Hope.

@@Cklert So Why then did Christ Have to Die, what is your answer please.?

Purgatory is not a do over, it is an act of mercy for those struggling to become a Saint. Also if we think we dont have to do any penance for the sins we commit means God does not deserve for us to show our love to Him by becoming a better person. Its that simple. If i knock over a glass and break it, its my duty to clean it up, it is that simple too. To think Jesus has to clean up our own mess completely throws away the Christian life which is to become like Jesus to work hard to become a Saint, go the extra mile like Jesus said.

@@TheJuddly Purgatory is not a do over, it is an act of mercy for those struggling to become a Saint. Every believer in the new testament church was called a saint. So as a believer you are a saint according to scripture. Also if we think we dont have to do any penance for the sins we commit means God does not deserve for us to show our love to Him by becoming a better person. Please explain penance as there is no punishment of the believer found in scripture . Yes there are consequences to our actions and they happen as we live. Its that simple. If i knock over a glass and break it, its my duty to clean it up, it is that simple too. To think Jesus has to clean up our own mess completely throws away the Christian life Jesus atones for our sins all of them We do not atone for any sin as Jesus is the only one who can. which is to become like Jesus to work hard to become a Saint, go the extra mile like Jesus said. A believer in Christ is a saint , and as a saint the duty to follow Christ and imitate Him is our goal.

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 ok so let me ask you this. If I were to back in to you car with my car and do great damage to it, does it not make sense to help pay and fix your car, make insurance claim so they can help pay for it too, EVEN IF you forgive me?

@@TheJuddly There are consequences to our actions and yes we are liable for the damage even if forgiven , but when it comes to a spiritual condition we are not capable of fixing our problems and it is Jesus who atones for our unrighteousness, not us. Would you explain penance please? I can not find penance as something to do physically for a spiritual wrong ?

@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Jesus said you will not be out of prison til the last penny is paid. So we can pay for it on earth, more so now, purgatory is the prison Jesus was talking about. You do know that Martin Luther took out praying for the dead that was in Maccabees right? The Church created the true Bible, the Catholic Bible and Martin Luther took out 7 books…

Where in the Bible is "Trinity" mentioned? Or "sola scriptura"?

Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny (Matthew 5:26)

That sounds right. And praying to Mary; isn't that having another god before our Elohim?

@@patmelton43 Yes true ....anything other than Praying to Jesus alone , gives worship to satan , as satan has Many Faiths that follow him ,one way or another.

@@beagle5 We pray to God the Father through Jesus Christ.

@@patmelton43 Yes they pray to Familiar Spirits and have many gods ,as medals ,items beads, Worthless man made Statues, satan speaks to them ,as he is Never Tested , God says to TEST the Spirit, for their protection against these things ,satan comes as A Bright Shining Angel even as Mary To Deceive...satan knows scripture and convinces them to play with beads , medals and alike to give him worship...

Now compare what Dr Hahn says about the early church fathers and scripture Acts 17:11 at 4:41>

@Troll Patrol do you accept what is taught without questioning? Acts 17:11

There is no PURGATORY. YOU ARE RIGHT PLEASE PRAY FOR ME TO GET BACK I HA THE HOLY GHOST but went away Jews never believed in praying to the dead. Not TRUE

I think the verse says that if your work is burned you will be saved... does that not sound like purgatory?.... "If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, bbut only as through fire" 1Corinthians 3:15

@@jeffreyalilin7314 1 Cor 3:10-15 sin is not in question at all. What is in question is what you did with what Christ has given you. Salvation is a gift from God so what did you do with that gift did you keep quiet or did you tell people about it? When you have salvation and you see others in need do you ignore them or do you try to help? What have you done building on the foundation that Christ has provided. You do not build with sin so this passage has nothing to do with sin.

Then I have a question. If no one with sin can enter the gates of heaven, are we all damned? Since we all have sin, no one can be saved...

@@michaelhoerig4430 If you read God's written word to us you will see that when you repent and confess your sins to God , He removes ALL of your sins and forgives you totally. You enter heaven because of what Jesus has done atoning for all of your sins , the sins you can do nothing about in any way aside from confessing them and following Christ. We do not and can not atone for our sins.

Apparently you weren't listening very closely...

While it is found by that term only in the Catholic Tradition, you'll find it in non-Catholic traditions as well. They don't explore the concept much, if at all (though CS Lewis did), but any non-Catholic must agree with it when described as follows. At it' most basic level, it is simply the process of the justified believer's finalizing, completing sanctification before getting into Heaven, where no smidgen of sin can be. Few of us are fully sanctified in our life on Earth (ie, martyrs are, by there heroic deaths), so we are grateful for Purgatory.

@@michaelhoerig4430 Purgatory was brought in by Pope Sixtus for earning money. The blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1:8 We can’t buy the gift of God with money Acts 8;20 ❤

@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Sean. I was born again but blaspheme. Ran to destruction and doing bad. I didn't understand the holy ghost and no armor.,,.I WAS NEVER FULL Of the Holy ghost. I didn't build anything I was quickly tricked and Deceived

@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 This is not true.

Purgatory does not contradict Jesus' work, if MANIFESTS it. Purgatory is basically just the final application of the Blood of the Cross to the justified believer, which thus completes his sanctification.

@@AmericanBerean If you are not saved when you die, there is no other way to be saved. Purgatory is a way of the devil telling man, "don't worry about it. You can work it out in purgatory." NOT

surley hell then is a contradiction of jesus death on the cross a he died for our sins

@@AmericanBerean Christ Died For Nothing in your eyes??? His words are meaningless to you??? You really believe that Christ Did not Die for you??? You Must be Born Again??? satan loves this idea...

@@AmericanBerean Why do you DENY the Grace of God? why do you make God to be a Liar?? What doctrine has taught you this? This is a Very Ancient Roman god traditions and customs that satan Loves to Hear , that Jesus Died in Vain and His Death was Pointless.

I agree with everything you said. I've studied the Bible my whole life and I will be 80 this year. Good Job explaining.

Spot on! Christ’s message is a simple one. We try to show how smart we are by inventing complexities. One is a Christian or one is not. I don’t care which particular ‘brand’ you promote, and I despise the elitism that goes with it.

Ken Shiloh , I agree.. . also We Must remember , that ( having a Catholic Neighbour) they must not have a relationship with Christ and get in too deep, she only has the Old Testament. it is a Christians duty to help direct others to Christ, we cannot save them ,only the power of the Holy Spirit can, they, I believe do not Understand the words of Jesus....You Must Be Born again , sadly. I sympathise with them as their doctrine it appears ,will not let them see the Truth in the words of the Living God. Let alone praying Direct to Jesus, only through someone else... and many gods they use, medals, items, man made statues and much more , it is Very Sad, they do not understand Why Jesus came and died, and sadly more so . Gods Grace is for all.

*The Protestants responding here is proof they agree with their interpretation over what the Bible actually says.* I can say the exact same thing about catholics. *The Apostles didn't teach the Protestant version of Christianity.* Good thing i'm not a prot. I'm a christian. And what i believe i can find in the bible. You can't. *I learned that when I read the early church fathers, some of them were taught by the actual Apostles that walked with Jesus Christ.* The ecf's were all over the map. If they are your standard then youre gonna have problems. Demas was taught by Paul. He deserted Paul. So does being taught by an apostle really count for anything? *There was no Bible until about 397AD. That's almost 400 years the Church had without any Bible.* Absolute nonsense. Codex Siniaticus dates from around 350. That is the first bound volume of scripture. Then there were all the manuscripts, papyri, epistles floating around. The church fathers that came before that; Origen, Tertullian...cited the new testament literally 1000's of times. So this claim there was no bible is nonsense. *The more I study scripture, the more I am convinced that Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church. It's why I left Protestantism for Catholicism just like Dr Scott Hahn, and many other Protestants who wanted God's truth.* My take is the exact opposite.

@@ContendingEarnestlythe only thing you cannot prove Protestantism as coming from God. Anyone who understands scripture can see what Protestantism really is, an invention from Satan to deceive the children of God from obtaining salvation. God didn't start any Protestant church. It was sinful men who started it. They didn't agree with God and Satan said just start another church and then you can be God and chose what you believe in. Thank God, He showed me those heresies in Protestantism. I got out as soon as I saw Protestantism promoting sinful behavior. Thank God He led me to His truth, found only in His Catholic Church.

So I can do all types of sins and live a life of depravity and only believe in Jesus?

@@YiriUbic3793 t hey didn't say this at all...,.THE HOLY GHOST IS GOING TO CLEAN YOU HERE or not at all

@@YiriUbic3793 If you read the scriptures you will see countless exhortations about how you are representing Christ as a believer. So do tell us how you repent , confess your sin to God , confess your belief in Christ Romans 10:9 and have the fruit of the Holy Spirit and go back to living in the world? What if we do sin? 1 John 2:1,2 Salvation is a gift that is Never taken away for any reason and the Holy Spirits seal upon the believer is Never removed for any reason. There are consequences to our actions and they happen here as you live.

@@YiriUbic3793 If you believed in Jesus, you would not commit evil. And if you committed evil, you would repent to God. Otherwise, you never knew Him.

@Troll Patrol Don't you have a choice to be here? Stop with your whining and grow up.

not true already the early Christians prayed for their dead. one of the earliest example of purgatory can be found in the visions of Perpetua and Felicity. Both martyrs in the 2nd/3rd century

@@amalantosgs2 Heresy. Acts contains it all and that is a sacrilege to claim early Christians prayed for the dead.

​@@amalantosgs2 They were idiots.

when did Jesus said not to pray for the dead?

I'm 100% sure when the Bible mentions false teachers, they are referring to those who teach heresy. Today, that would be all non-Catholic churches. Before you argue, please be warned that I spent 55 years in Protestantism so I understand the false teachings or misinterpretations that Protestants make.

Jesse Dee Purgatory goes against the concept of Godly charity, it makes Him a cruel and vindictive fraud Read the posts above, we are entitled to have several rebirths before we have our judgement at which we are celestial children. We are also entitled to have a Judgement when we can no longer have rebirths, this Judgement is carried out by the Divine Word, it is a very serious investigation into our lives, Jesus Christ tells us it is a *skin of the teeth* experience. What a wicked thing to tell people that if they die outside the Catholic Church they are damned, this applies to accident. Murder victim's failed pregnancy victims untimely deaths, etc. God does not discriminate like that with those he loves, we all receive the full attention of God before we are born, in which a tariff has been set that should we wish to choose it, we can become *perfect* in this lifetime, but we are not obligated to do so as we have a choice, but a prudent person will follow their conscience, with regard to the Beatitudes.

@@InterestedInDansk If you had asked me 5 years ago, I would say there is false beliefs in the Catholic Church. Ask me today, and I'll tell you there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church just like the early Christians have said. Why? Because Jesus Christ founded ONE church, not 40,000 +. There's only one truth. Scripture confirms that one truth is found in the Catholic Church. Do I think all non-Catholics are damned? No, or at least I hope not. It's why I pray for my parents and my wife's parents and all our family and friends. My dad was Catholic and excommunicated himself by marrying my mom and she didn't get an annulment prior to their marriage. The prayers for the dead is found in the Bible, but it's in one of the books Martin Luther disagreed with and had it removed. Those books were removed 1100+ years after the Catholic Church compiled the Bible. I was happy as a Protestant. But they showed me they had false teachings. So instead of joining any church, I studied the history of the early church and it was most definitely Catholic. As a Catholic, I'm extremely happy. I know I'm worshipping Him the proper way. I have the truth that the Apostles taught. Before you accuse the Catholic Church of false teachings, you might want to see which came first, the Bible or the Catholic Church. I'm praying for you. God bless.

@@JesusfoundedCatholicChurch There's no need to pray for me whether I'm living or dead. The fact is that Jesus did not know of any Catholic doctrine or of the New Testament he replied as he said on the psalms and the prophet's which is *Jewish doctrine* Isaiah 49:3 *Your are my servant Israel in whom I shall be Glorified* was his mandate. John the Baptist enunciated this when before witnesses he said *There stands among you, one whom you do not know* _the latchet of his sandals I am unworthy to untie_ He was telling those who were there that Jesus was Israel redivivus and Jesus Christ spoke to his disciples and said that John the Baptist was Elijah redivivus. The Bible proves that Resurrection is an ongoing event throughout time, where do you hear this from the Church? The same gift that st Paul spoke of *I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven- whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows* This text is being played out in the lives of all men, continuously through time. kzfaq.infoUgkxhH7tIuIz-tqdp6zWgJYHlTKSvK0F6mvy

Why do you protestants have dozens of thousands of sects if you claimed to have the truth? Why aren't you one, why having different denominations with different doctrine?

Which of the more than 40,000 protestants sects is the true teacher?

@@YiriUbic3793 The Holy Spirit is the teacher of those who are His. He teaches us by reading of His word.

@@YiriUbic3793 which of the 50000000000 colored scapulars do you all need and actually Use? Paul WAS NOT A CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN NO SUCH THING....

@@YiriUbic3793 scripture does not support denominations , the roman Catholic church or the orthodox . Scripture supports the church as the body of Christ.

We thank God for purgatory. It gives the soul another chance to be saved. Almost no one is ready to go to Heaven. We are washed with the blood of the Lamb. However, we must be 100 percent perfect to get into Heaven. Most aren’t. The smallest transgressions offend God. You may not have murdered. Have you gossiped, got drunk, lusted, gotten angry at someone? Purgatory is a place of purification to cleanse as NOTHING even the tiniest bit sinful will enter heaven.

@@DaughterofOurLady false DOCTRINE hear it

@@DaughterofOurLady So as a believer who has Christ living in them spiritually they are still tainted with the atain of sin? This what happens when you listen to the roman Catholic church and do not read God's written word the scriptures. Acts 17:11 is the example we must use to confirm what we do or do not believe!

@@forssales So when the children of Mary the mother of Jesus are listed in the new testament but not purgatory or it's buddy indulgences, you sort have got to wonder why? Mary's children which would seem to be a very trivial thing to list ,and purgatory something far more important that the writers of the new testament failed to even hint at! Jesus

@@DaughterofOurLady There is NO second chance as the Rich man Found out>>>>in Hell. you call purgatory , Read Luke

Those who visited an afterlife and came back are not the teachers we should follow. Their experiences (called private revelations) might be helpful to some folks, but they're not the teaching authority. If someone feels they lead to contradiction with the Catholic doctrines, then those private revelations should be ignored. Lean on the constant teaching of 2000 years of the Christian Church. Private revelations are useful sometimes, but not the standard we use to learn the faith's doctrines. And never accept any private revelation if it hasn't been vetted, investigated, and approved by the Church leadership. Satan tries to fool us that way sometimes. Peace out.