I second this! :-) First thing I thought when I saw the thumbnail! @Bob you're just the best :-) Also, how f* amazing is Vander??!

Love this winners only theme for PFI

Love it!!! Duda needs to be on All Stars & I’d love to see Vander on normal drag race

@@DannyBoy89 she already won the first season of dragula, i don't think she needs to be recognized from drag race

I couldn't agree more but I so wanted to see Thorgy as his full time Co Host.

exactly, its so fucked up

I was yelling at my screen for someone to just help her.

LITERALLY

As a disabled person with severe arthritis in my hands, it pained me so much.

I felt thay same pain but also she has to learn to reach out and ask for help. It took me a long time to do that and honestly idk if even I could have in that situation. But I sure as he'll would have just went and got a pen or scissors if I wasn't going to ask. I think maybe she did but production probably cut that out. But when you get that defeated feeling sometimes you're brain just doesn't work right either. I also think it's something that comes with age, not being afraid to speak up for yourself because no one else is going to do it only you have your back.

Their voice is so soothing and confident as well!

@@av2279 pop l

I thought the same when they spoke about Willow and Kornbread 😭

Yeah if only Bob let her speak more. My gawd

@@av2279 omg rightt

"accidentally".

😂

AHAHAHAHAHAjajajJAJAjajaj

I feel like they’re trying to not make it obvious how much Angeria slays them all

Every week at least 20% of the fanbase disagrees with the win but this time it's like 95% I live for the unity

@@paulalapoderosa6762 this is very true but also.. then give it to Camden

are you forgetting about trixie winning the season? monet x change? lol

no other win had ever been this wrongfully handed before

Its by far obvious bs

poor Cynthia..

@@tiptop9373 Yeah it was uncalled for, Cynthia wasn't even mean just saying her opinion

@@arialydia8095 what happen with cynthia

@@tittylicker5320 Cynthia made a comment about how the judging was weird, or someone did well, or something along those lines, and Jorgeous attacked her saying like, "this is why you got in a car crash",which happened recently. It was so unnecessary. Edit: looking back on the tweets, i still think Jorgeous' comment was unnecessary, but some of Cynthia's we're as well.

I believe Bob said something to the tune of "It's a shame they couldn't have given her a tool". No, they COULD have. They CHOSE not to. They put her chronic pain on display for entertainment, and that's gross and wrong. Shame on them.

Reality tv show contestants aren't considered employees. So I know the ADA does not protect them. I know that contestants sign contracts/waivers before filming. I don't know if it addresses health, disability, or injury/illness acquired during filming. Multiple queens have been injured during filming. Most recently Kornbread. Victoria Scone, Eureka O'Hara, and probably others I don't know about or can't remember. Multiple queens came out as having chronic health conditions or disabilities. Willow with arthritis and related degenerative loss of function and chronic pain. Ongina and Trinity K. Bonnet being HIV positive. Yvie Oddly having Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. From Dragula, HoSo Terra Toma who has always been immunosuppressed and had cancer as an adult, and shows that in their drag. Dahlia who is HIV positive. And them coming out about their conditions doesn't mean they identify as disabled, are connected to a larger disabled community, are fighting for disabled rights, or recognize ableist bias and discrimination. I have been so excited about more disabled queens on screen. I really hope that their will be more queens who are proud to be disabled and bring awareness of disabled rights.

@@janeeyre1990 Makes me wonder if they SHOULD be included under ADA. Either make them employees or change the writing of ADA to include them.

absolutely! makes sense that the other girls hadn't noticed and didn't help her but the camera crew?? sound?? production??? fully watching and knowing and still not helping her and then asking about it during confessionals? this is disgusting

wahh wahhhhh

And an exceptional drag artist too!

I agree! They know how to execute their opinion so kindly.

Seriously! In 2022, or 2021 when they filmed, measures shld be taken to ensure that no queens is disadvantaged compared to the others!!

Now they had a damn design challenge. I. Pretty sure there were scissors somewhere in the workroom.

It’s not even that they couldn’t it’s that they wouldn’t is the worst part. Willam spoke about it on race chaser this week that production don’t want to help you because it’s more interesting tv to watch you struggle (I’m paraphrasing but that’s the gist of it)

They should give her one of those paper cutter things

It's not "couldn't", it's "could but chose not to". They profit off of putting her disability on display for entertainment. It's disgusting.

it was so bad i was uncomfortable, it seems weird it was even filmed. like she has grounds to sue. im pretty sure they have to by law assist her no?

@@mooculley Unfortunately I don't think the law of ADA applies here because she isn't an employee of WoW, but a contractor. Disabled people have little rights in the US, and there are many loopholes around being obligated to provide accommodations. You're so right about it being uncomfortable to watch. They acknowledged the problem enough to film and get content out of it, but not to help her.

Bob could have chemistry with a houseplant, they're just so charismatic. Love them.

deja reminds me of delta for some reason, and theyre performing similarly, but delta came close to winning a design challenge (cake) whereas deja just cant style herself properly

Lol

No fr she just happy to be there 😂😂

@@edlee2336 ahaha that would be ME if I enter the show. Lol

This cut so deep for some reason lol

Astute observation

@@sillydogfarms2983 I was quite literally about to comment “astute observation” before I saw your comment LOL. but yeah I agree, this is a pretty insightful take

This is the tea mama. The favoritism could be hand waved as just being human. But we know how the butter is made. Drag Race needs a make over.

That was deep. I was not expecting this kind of comment but I agree with all of it.

what did you call me?

@@indicababy serena cha cha

Whos ms cucu lol?

She did, in a nice way as well.

@@fashioncat333 Cynthia Lee Fontaine.

@@wowsers9923 oh yeah sorry lol

girl, same

This is exactly it. They’re definitely trying to bait Daya to get her angry for more drama and it’s working.

This!

i actually love it... seeing them hopeful for the last second only to be devastated for the second time imagine the negative emotions from being announced you're low, then hearing the critiques, then placing bottom two, then losing the lipsync, then seeing a chocolate 😂

the funniest thing is imagine the chocolate gold bar falling into the hands of a queen that never lands in the bottom- the gig then becomes totally obsolete. I think it would make more sense to round up the eliminated queens and then do the chocolate gold bar draw- then the lucky one gets their second shot. That way one of the queens really have the chance at that very moment.

@@tiptop9373 much better. But I think they wanted that extra story beat on the stage of each elimination, which to me just seems in poor taste.

@@tiptop9373 I agree- the chocolate has to be rigged. If it had gone to June, Alyssa, Orion or even Maddy, it would be too early in the season and a complete waste. If someone makes top four without lip syncing it would be a waste, and I doubt they’d give it to the queen who lip syncs at top five. And imagine if Kornbread had it without ever having a chance to lip sync. The twist pretty much has to come mid-or-late season to keep viewership up and not go to waste. Everyone knows the “drag gods” are just the producers, I honestly like it more when the producers are honest about someone being saved (a la Kandy Muse or BenDeLaCreme, who were outright told that they lost and Ru simply wanted them to stay).

It’s rigged though, they’ll give the gold bar to whoever the producers decide in the moment

bless bob but for the first few eps last season she put tamisha at the front in hopes to win the whole season

@@MyidolGwen no she didnt…Bob was literally saying symone was gonna win from like episode 3 onwards

@@Yanezj46 symone and olivia are good examples of what theyre talking about tho, symone had to lipsync twice in the 2nd half and olivia never came close to a win meanwhile despite her dominating in the first

Giving napkin realness

Fair Lol

Jorgeous sold the garment. That is how she won.

Vander has a beautiful voice for ASMR😍

While they were thinking it through, i was thinking how much better it could've been if the aprons were made into ruffles or something. I understand maybe her skills would not make that feasible, but i think it wouldvw looked really cool. Maybe like kind of a mermaid shape could work too?

@@beatm6948 I was so baffled by the look all I could see if the look 😫

I don't think I noticed the technical issues with the dress because I bought the fantasy Maddy is a dirt poor southern girl going to her first dance, and she feels like the belle of the ball even though her dress is an ill-fitting grandma quilt nightmare

But when Vander Van Odd talked about taking an existing structure and trying to build off of it, I understood the complaints It would have fit better or been shaped better if Maddy started from her body and built out, rather than starting with the structure and trying to fit it to her body

The concept had potential but the execution was whack

deja looks at the fabric wall and says damn it all i'll wear the whole wall

She should of been bottom 2 it was horrendous. Shes seam the seamstress of the season…. It was literally two pieces of plain fabric sewn together in a basic dress style with no embellishments or stylings or anything at all with a rope ties around it

her Story Relates to So Many Lgbtqai+ , One of the Reasons its Kinda Hard for Us 🤍

Well Tamar, she already went home.

What makes you think she wont win? 👁👄👁

Oh ho! You lil' creature of the shade, love it.

"when" I spat my drink out

I hope she enters the work room crying. And yes...shes definitely going home. They are editing her as a villian.

I actually thought season 12 was one of the best seasons in the series I thought the cast was very very strong. I didnt enjoy 11 and 13 (especially hated 13), I like this season more than those.

10-11-13-15 are all boring. 12 and 14 are the only good ones from the newer seasons.

maybe it's the covid 😭

Dida is one of the best lip syncers to ever Grace DR.

She's on season 1 of Dragula (:

check out dragula!! its a great display of alternative drag 💞

I mean... She did a comedy take on the lypsinc. You'd need to be blind to think that won over Jasmine's moves

Matter of taste, I suppose...I personally was more interested in what Maddy was doing but then I'm biased towards something more theatrical.

Girl you should’ve felt validated already, your opinion is actually the majority ??

she obviously didn’t win but i think she was just trying to go in a more comedic direction.

@@bib4eto656 .