Share this vid with a friend if you enjoyed! It took a LOT of work...

The fact arrowhead said they would be adding suppressed weapons "soon" would make this play style even more viable 😊

All weapons have a sound profile, btw, and when really tested hard, the Senator had the lowest of the pistols.

The challenge is has an unnecessarily difficult with the no primary or strat handicap. Seen a video of a dude fully completing a lvl nine mission using the stealth mechanics. He would take down isolated groups quickly, move onto objective and kick the hornets nest. If things got to hot he would run and break line of sight and then hit another target to draw enemy attention there then return to the objective and complete it. It was less a stealth play than a MGSV play but the stealth mechanics where widely utilised

knowing the existence of the booty patrol kinda kills the stealth immersion. an arbitrary patrol that always follows you seems like a dubious decision at worst

Man i seriously overestimated the AI's object permanence in this game I tried doing it earlier today and i atraight up crawled past a group of enemies, did the objective, and left without getting spotted Shit was almost more satisfying than plowing through them all

I'm convinced helldivers is a comedy in disguise. The powerful groups of enemies just watching you, the ragdolls, it's all too funny.

Gotta love Joel and his scouts patrols

i once went prone on a helldive vs termanids, a patrol rolled up on me, and i kept crawling, and since they stop to investigate where you were, they constantly stop, realize you moved, move again, see you, stop, investigate, you moved and repeat. its hilarious because you end up having a swarm around you, following you with a set barrier around you, not engaging.

Would call it "Hitman" challenge over "Stealth" challenge because you can very much stealth while throwing a nuke into a base. You just have to not get in enemy line of site when you do. Though that is a stealth mechanic that needs to be tested too "How well does the enemy know where your stratagem came from?" or more specifically "Will the enemy know where you are despite not being where you threw the stratagem or will they only look around where you threw it?"

Automaton1: "I see the enemy!" Automaton2: "Where?" Automaton1: "Idk figure it out lol."

My personal headcanon is Joel personally notices you aren't in combat yet and sends a guy to change that. He is a man on a mission

"Boss, the terminids are an invasive alien species that..." "Hmm, but how do they taste?"

that booty patrol shit sucks, where is the fog of war /:

You can actually distract unaware enemies by chucking a grenade and they will try to investigate the explosion, it makes it a little easier to lineup the sniper shots. That’s if you wasn’t aware

The mining drill and extraction shouldn't aggro on you, they aggro on the objective. So if you hide long enough, they should get bored and return to patrol. I also argue you should be permitted to use some stratagems like the smoke and maybe one or two turrets as distractions - what's a good espionage thriller without gadgets?

2:02 "I'm gonna see how well I can shoot things without them noticing" *immediately misses*

I know it's not the same, but love playing as a reckon scout against the robots. Getting close to a base without getting detected, calling an artillery strike or eagle run on the base and finishing the survivors with a sniper

The way the patrol works is that they always home in specifically on the location of player upon spawning, not the general area of the player. Hence you will find situation where you could be hiding on the top of the hill, and they patrol straight into the hill you are on. If a patrol spawns while you are running, they will patrol towards that location where you just were few seconds ago when it spawned. What's even more frustrating is that if you have a jetpack that allows you to go up certain places where the patrol can't path find towards you, they will automatically detect you regardless as if there is no wall. For bots, this is even more frustrating because they temporary could shoot through walls, which will result in you blown to bits without even having a line of sight on them. For bugs, the orange fleas will tunnel/teleport to you. At least one of the fleas will do this to immediately trigger a bug breach. Note how they will only do this when you are still stealthing, and never tunnel or shoot through wall if you are already detected. For bugs, you can potentially melee them and get away with thing. But for bots, they currently have some weird thing going on where if you melee and dont kill it in time. The other bots few meter from it, will shoot flares regardless of whether they see you or not. So yes, while stealth is doable, there is some abnormalities with how the enemy detects you happening as well as other game mechanics with how the enemy patrol spawn works. Not completely flawless, just something to keep in mind.

"Remember Snake, this is a sneaking mission."

There's an element of luck involved in stealth runs. It's also easier on heavily forested planets where there's more cover and ability to break line-of-sight at will.

My friend and I tend to use stealth a lot in our missions. Thing is you you do have to go loud a lot, but sneaking can really help you avoid danger a LOT when you're careful.

I am actually happy that Helldivers doesn't have that "stealth mechanic" most games have, where enemies are coded to NEVER turn around if you are a few meters behind them. Once you realize that, it takes the sport out of any modern stealth game.

I find that 'Guerrilla stealth' is far more viable, a jetpack is also essential for reaching hiding places and vantage points, it's also useful for actually getting away from patrols. Traps, aggressive stratagems and positioning are key, I really don't see how a totally stealthy run is possible.

Stealth in my opinion is like a tool, used when the situation calls for it. Say, you are alone at the ICBM Site and ran out of recources. While you wait for your team to catch up, you can attempt to sneak past the patrols and set up the ICBM, delaying possible reinforcements for a couple seconds or even minutes while still completing the mission. I did exactly that once on Fenris III on difficulty 7, and I swear waiting at the terminal with a Terminid Soldier sitting next to you, with only one magazine left was STRESSFUL yet so much fun

The snake eater music is so good. Plus the f-zero remix was way better than I expected.

Another interesting tip I learnt the hard way while also trying to stealth: The enemies will see your guard dog. The guard dog is great but if you want to play stealthily it can mess up your cover as enemies will spot it (and since it follows you, spot you as well haha) Edit: By the way I believe that the guard dog distance to be seen directly depends on your stance (like maybe the game treats it as an extension of the players body)

I’ve been running mostly stealth against the automatons on level 7, 8, and 9, since I saw someone else’s stealth build. Quick tips, you don’t have to hold an objective, draw them away loop back around. You can draw larger units attention from one direction then lose them and come at them from behind. Use your mini map more, when I’m crouched or prone I always hit tab quickly to check if anyone patrols will be coming up on me from behind.

For anyone wondering, the song that plays at 3:50~ is called "Big Blue", part of the F-Zero series. Had to comment after hearing this legendary song. Super Smash Brothers Melee version will always be the best to me lol.

Stealth is the big brain way to play the game for sure. But keep in mind that a sniper or scout's greatest weapon is his radio. Call in all of the fire support and never let them see you.

Love the video. There is a guy on YT that runs Helldive 9 difficulty missions in stealth, or at least as stealthy as you can, named Spiked. He runs AMR and often times does full clear of maps and the dude is nuts. One thing I've learned watching him is that if a patrol is called in, you can disengage and run across the map and they either disperse or despawn, I'm not sure which. This may help with the missions like the ICBM one that has multi stage objectives. You can basically go in clear what you can, complete what part of hte objective you can and disengage and come back. He bounces between objectives rather than tries to stay and fight.

"This is a perfect position to snipe fro-" "Hello, we'd like to inform you about your car's extended warranty."

Should have brought smokes. The smoke grenade and smoke stratagems are severely underestimated for disengagement potential

I cant with the Doug Doug music lol. I know Doug Doug does not one the music but its still funny.

Joel watching his perfectly crafted planet defense crumble as you melee the 100th robot knee

Hit and run, shock and awe and being stealthy are capable in this game. Smoke grenades can assist with this, and if you stretch it, smoke eagle and smoke orbital. I tend to be a "shock and awe" kind of runner and i use stealth to my advantage in all scenarios. Set an eagle strike, run in, clear the rest out. It works very well.

There are still a few things you have yet to learn about stealth in this game, but I like that you're picking it up with this dedication

The problem with stealth is if you do things alone the AI has only you to focus on but you if where with other helldivers their attention gets divided witch make sneaking somewhat easier until you make more noise.

7:08, oohh my that frame, standing there, MENANCINGLY

The booty patrol mechanic is super dissapointing... hate things like that, but got to admit that moment on 14:37 where you turn around to see a horde of automatons on top of a mountain behind was you pure gold. Atleast for me, that absolutely sent me to the moon.

Yes me and my friend where actually running missions on Helldive just with stealth, with almost no fighting, it depends on the missions sometime we have to fight sometime its just prown or crouch across the map, we stealth extract with no fighting, but for somereason, its almost impossible to fully stealth vs the bugs, those hunters and stalkers can seek you down anywhere on the map

You could add the minefield placing strategems to your arsenal, since you can set traps in hitman.

Thank you. Recently I did my first stealth solo mission on difficulty 7, I did use strats and not just AMR, but damn it felt amazing to complete a sabotage mission this way AND stay safe at extract with the jump pack and a grip of pink samples.

THANK YOU! I've been waiting for someone to focus on this

What version of Big Blue was that?! That was boppin

oh no, brother u got bamboozled by automaton propaganda, 10:00, THE SHIP WILL LAND but as long as you didnt complete the main objective, it will just stay there on the ground at extraction, it will not fly away without you UNTIL the main objective is complete. The moment you complete the objective it will start the flying away countdown tho so u wont be able to extract most of the time, but the mission will be completed, that is how it works.

I can usually stealth the ICBM launch while my buddies grab the other objectives for it. Feels like being a navy seal every time. By the way, smoke airstrike and smoke grenades are invaluable for disengaging, by breaking line of sight. Me and my buddy's default playstyle is hit objectives hard and fast with multiple airstrikes and aggression to minimize breakouts, disengage with smoke, rinse and repeat 'soft stealthing' the entire match. You learn to run around the world space with your map open, watching those red dots and avoiding them, threading the needle between them. I stare at my map when traversing the world like I'm playing pac man lmao. Get the ship module that gives you better radar range.

a bit of information for you, when the shuttle comes down, it stays down, and will wait for you - forever. so long as no one else gets in, so you can do the entire mission, get every sample, make some tea, and get on the shuttle, but you dont have access to strategems, which is irrelevant given your challenge

Whats the music at 4:00?

I personally do not like that the game spawns patrols with preknowledge of your position (spawning them is another thing). With the stealth mechanic you are already fighting the clock of the match and your are not stealthy anyway if the patrol knows your whereabouts. Total immersion breaker.

Stealth main here. The best way to do this playstyle is to kill literally everything that may be an issue. There is RNG when it comes to enemy placements, but it's possible. A good example was when you wanted to kill that turret soldier, you made the poor decision of leaving the other two alive, which alerted everyone else with the flare. You can, so long as you are not close to other atuomatons when throwing a grenade, but throw one away or use a supportive stratagem to distract the enemy. Throwing a grenade into the field (when you're not next to an enemy), summoning something like another sniper, non-lethal mortar turret are all viable ways to stealth into a base. Distraction itself is a very strong tool for stealth players, so we can temporarily reposition enemies. Hope this helps!

Just starting the video, and just want to mention some stuff I noticed about stealth today. Its really damn good. Seriously, if you've been having trouble with automaton missions, try taking out an enemy from a fair distance away, then going prone in some far off bushes, they'll just shoot in the general direction of the gunshot while checking where you were, giving you time to just go around them entirely or sneak an objective.

Melee weapons would be awesome for sneaky players. . . Also you can use the ballistic shield with the submachine gun in semi-auto and it’s awesome against automatons.

Did something similar to get one of the rarer achievements (Hold my primary, I'm going in!), ran a blitz mission with only the auto pistol and offensive strategems on hard and it was extremely painful but doable. Gave me a good appreciation for the stealth mechanics such as they are.

This was quality man - just got me to subscribe. Love your editing and vid progression. Keep it up.

I’m actually amazed more people don’t notice this. I’ve never seen anybody use the sneaking approach. But watching several people play the game I’ve noticed multiple times that enemies weren’t attacking until the player ran towards them. Hell, I even saw a person throw a stratagem into the middle of a group of enemies that were just standing around. And they didnt move until he shot at them. Which drew their attention and it caused the orbital bombardment to not take them all out cause most moved away from it. In fact, part of the reason I want to play the game is because I wanted to test to see if sneaking around was even a viable option because it looked like it was. And no one I was watching play the game even attempted to use the stealth method. This just confirms one of the things I thought was possible.

fun fact the devs confirmed a few things when they did a Q&A/play session with a youtuber where they mentioned the enemy AI and how it reacts/tracks players. they said that all the enemies in the game can detect you via sound, sight and "feeling" (the bugs only, thankfully) and that the "patrols" are alerted by all drop-pods except the initial one you drop in on, everything after that (equipment call-ins, etc), they'll be alerted and move to that location. They have also said that they're looking to add more to the stealth mechanics of the game but that its not a real focus.

I completed an entire mission where I had to take down 2 chargers completely alone just by proning and crouching and not shooting anything besides my target, which I did by calling in an airstrike. I thought it was neat that enemies responded to you making lower noise and not performing direct hostile actions, but I didn't expect it to be on this depth

i love stealth play in this game too and ive also noticed the bs mechanics like the patrols not only knowing roughly where u are but also having them spawn extremely close to u, its so annoying and i hope they fix the spawns, didnt know about the stealth melee kill though

I’ve done a lot of stealth myself, never actually noticed the booty patrol. I think one of the issues you have is you commit to doing whatever you were doing whereas it’s easier if you just go back and forth to different objectives and let things cool off. I am almost always running around when I stealth, except when I go in to do something. I always end up with a massive distance covered. Also ends up saving you on time so you don’t get timed out.

Love this video, awesome content. I'd love to see some testing of the value of smoke in general, but more specifically in regards to stealth

I've been enjoying stealth gameplay to some extent in solo play in even bug missions. You can actually create distractions with grenades or even gas strikes. If you go unseen while the grenade or gas strike goes off, enemies will instead investigate the location of the blast instead of you. After a short period of them investigating it, they will be on a "yellow alert", actively searching for what caused the disturbance. If you leave and come back after about a minute, they will have stopped being on alert. You can actually use this to lead away enemies from an objective. The scout teams that hunt you down don't actually know where you are, but are told by the overall mission AI what your proximity is. When they get close, they lose this information and can pass right by you if you are in stealth, and will continue to go a distance away from you until either a second scout spawns and is given that info, or the original scout is given your proximity once again. The longer the mission goes on, the more scouts will exist, and the more units a scout unit might have, making it ultimately more difficult to sneak around the map. On top of all this, scouts can actually spawn very close to you, as they have set zones on the map they are allowed to spawn; not exact points, but areas. They might even spawn literally right behind you; but they STILL don't know you exist until they directly spot you. You can also re-enter stealth during combat, but you need to be a certain proximity away from enemies without giving line of sight or causing any noise. Enemies who were in combat with you that lose you will not go into a "Yellow alert" and will still be in a "red alert", firing where they last think you were. In addition, while enemies are in "Red alert" they are much more easily able to detect you. With enough distance and time, these enemies eventually return to "Yellow alert" but seemingly never stop being that until combat resumes. Larger explosions such as airstrikes or missile barrages will alert enemies to your exact position, even if you're hidden and behind cover. Gas strike and EM strategem are the only two that are immune to this, and instead act like grenades, distracting foes if you stay undetectable. Finally, if someone else in your squad is being loud, you can still be stealthy. Enemies won't consider the whole squad in combat just because one person entered it. They will, however, be in "Red alert" causing stealth to be much more difficult to achieve.

Idk why more people arent telling you, but you were right. All that happens when the time runs out is that you cant use stratagems and extraction shows up. But extraction wont leave without you. Sometimes we'll call in extraction early, run out and do camps/poi/mini objectives, and then book it back and hop on without having to wait. Also extraction calls in drops like the objectives you were having problems with, so it might honestly be optimal to wait for the game to call it in for you. Idk, you totally had that one mission down, launching the icbm would have been the hardest part tho... That objective is wayyy easier with a full squad

As someone who plays a lot of Helldiver missions solo, stealth mode is a must. I still use stratagems when I need to, but its usually for taking out objectives and bailing or to shake stuff off me when I've been caught. Most the time it's just me, my sniper, and marksman rifle Nothing is quite as satisfying as low crawling up to a jammer tower completely undetected, completing it's terminal undetected, then throwing a stratagem down and bailing without ever being noticed. I usually go in with the Smoke on me for fixing a mistake and being detected before it gets out of hand, and a 500kg for objectives and/or if things get totally out of hand

wait what the heck, this is a really well made video! I was not expecting that. Great job man!

One of my most successful stealth runs with the anti material rifle included picking off the small guys first and then sniping the big guys. The senator is good for stealth bc it kills most enemies in a headshot. Until they release the ninja, “its a stealth mission if no one is alive to report you”

This is what's missing from Helldivers 2 content. Forget all the info giving/hard core mission whatever channels, give me a silly objective with some fun moments and good commentary any day. Hope to see more :)

I've gotten airstrikes and did a lvl 7 airbase sabotage all by myself with infiltrator and SMG. I've never ran into the "Booty patrol" I just had regular patrols going around, their pathing is made to intersect with yours but you can usually go around them easily if you stay crouched and 10 meters away from them. I brought airstrike along because it's the smallest strategem that causes an explosion capable of destroying bunkers and aircraft objectives. Airbase radar station was the hard part, but even those huge outposts are made with stealth in mind. I found a minefield and barbed wire filled back entrance and had to prone walk my way through that before hiding from a patrol that walked through the base. My heart was pounding so much when I got to the top and called the SSSD for the terminal, bots come to investigate the drop but I shot 2 in the head and no more came to investigate. Then I planted the SSSD, blew up the tower and ran off to extract in 34 minutes. Stealth is definitely possible and quite a fun challenge, just make sure your lobby is on friends only so randoms don't drop in and go guns blazing while you're crawling between 3 hulkers

Whoa! I didn't know you could get so close to the enemy without them noticing you. I used "stealth" mechanics mainly when I am playing solo and trying to complete a mission without fighting every patrol in between. I also noticed they lose you if you break LOS and hide somewhere, which is super cool. The AI can always be improved, but it is damn impressive as it is right now. So many hidden mechanics and behaviors. Wicked.

Also you could impliment presision bazed stratagems for high priot targets like fabs. Orbital precision. 110 mm rocket eagle, and rail cannon. Since those have minimal splash and target high priot units.

I did run a stealth build with dome shield and HMG emplacement. Getting to a good area and suddenly rain he'll with impunity is a fun loop

Hi, haven't watched the full video yet but have done some stealthdivers, the prospecting objective will often call in a botdrop/bugbreach, but those specific breaches only have the objective as a sort 'last known location' and you can just activate the objective, stealth away and come back 2 minutes later.

Food for thought. I've been running with the shotgun while solo and I've noticed even then they weren't reacting to the insta kills. Only when im close to another one when they freak out.

i have been doing some of this and its super fun to sneek around i belive enemys will alert unless you kill the one you shot in 1-2 shots or hits

I have done assassination missions on challenging solo several times where I fired twice in the entire mission including the extraction. Stealth is a definitely a thing. My buddy and I use stealth approaches in most missions before setting it all off. The scout armor with the radar booster and the nuclear radar allow you to see most of the map at one time.

I was just in a ore map where my team wasn't playing the objective. The stealth trick I used was tossing a turret off the point and hiding when I noticed the bug breach. They saw the turret and went "ah, the enemy". so they destroyed it and didn't notice me until i booked it out of there.

I was wondering when someone was gonna make a video about this! You can stealth SURPRISINGLY far in this game.

I feel like using smokes is such an understated mechanic and the coming of silenced weapons and more stealth tools will make this playstyle waaay more viable and fun

I'd add in the marksman rifle and the SMG, and the ballistic shield as options. (Additional assassin weapons, and a nonlethal, non-flashy defense option) Possibly also the minefield strats, as assassin "traps" to cover your back while you're snipping.

It's actually a little funny how the stealth in Helldivers 1 & 2 are pretty similar. Its arguably easier in the first game because of the top-down perspective limiting the vision of both the enemy and the player, but also enemy patrols seem easier to kill because you can be as loud as possible to make sure a flare isn't put up with limited consequence. Though this is from a person who never went on a helldive and similarly hardest difficulties, so take it with a grain of salt if you know otherwise.

Nice work!, wish more people used stealth. Our squad hits like swat, very rarly do we have flares popping etc... we still move pretty aggressively through the map, but we always stealth approach on a compound or patrol we can't avoid. On higher difficulty, it's insanely helpful. Your challenge will become viable to a degree on the upcoming warbond patch.

In helldivers 1 some weapons had bayonet attachments that would increase both the range and damage of melee atks, maybe if they add something like that or the sword rumors I been hearing then maybe it would help stealth a lot more alongside the silenced guns

Nice idea and decent execution, sad that your final run ended at 13:31 due to shooting your primary. But I understand still trying to go through and see if it is possible. I too will give this challenge a try.

I love the idea of solo gameplay really relying on stealth in this game, imagine a stratagem backpack that gives you invisibility when you crouch/ crouch walk, or a set of armor that isbsoley focused on stealthing, silencers for certain weapons ect.

If you want to go full stealth, the improved radar booster you can get is extremely effective. Another tip to significantly improve your experience sneaking in HD2 is this: DO NOT TRY TO SLOWLY CLEAR A BASE. If you aren't using stratagems, avoid bases. If your objective is in a base, sneak past the enemies, rather than killing them, or fire off a few shots from outside the base, to draw their attention and then circle around into the base to do your task before they come back. Fighting openly using the AM Rifle or Marksman Rifle is extremely difficult to do on high difficulties. These 2 are the best stealth options in the game, but they cannot handle large groups of enemies in your face. Both have very high damage per shot, but low fire rates and a lot of recoil. To avoid the "Booty Patrol", all you need to do is simply stay on the move and open your map to keep tabs on your vicinity using your radar. I've been able to solo clear every mission type for bots, Eradication aside, solo stealth on Suicide difficulty. If your stealth mission against the bots is taking more than ~20 minutes and you aren't trying to clear the entire map of every base and point of interest, you are playing stealth wrong. Use your map to keep tabs on enemies near you, run from location to location, and break line of sight ASAP if you are detected.

I previously saw a stealth solo run before against terminids. He also claimed that the patrol appearing out of nowhere during objectives is the problematic part as well. How he circumvent is using the radar and throw a turret outside the objective to draw aggro to buy time for him to complete. At times when theres a charger on the objective, he would use the turret to draw it out.

Me and my friends will use stealth and synchronized take downs whenever we have the chance. I usually scout ahead and ping patrols with an AMR and a Punisher or Dominator and Spear/Grenade launcher.

I've been having a lot of fun doing stealthy-ish stuff on helldivers so far but it really does only get as deep as hit and run tactics (which are still really really fun!)

Look at you blowing up like never before!! Happy for you man i knew you would

A wise man once told me.. "No one can say you're not stealthy if there's no one to live to tell the tale"

Another detail I would personally include: Basic infantry are your worst enemy, this goes for all types of play but especially stealth. They're the only ones who *can* call in bot drops/bug breaches. No basic infantry? No reinforcement calls, just other patrols at worst. Meaning it's often better to actively hunt down basic infantry first if you can before taking out heavy infantry/specialists (Devastators, scout strider, Hulk, tanks, etc.), since the biggest issue is that reinforcements can cause things to spiral cause they can also call in more basic infantry who might also get a flare off perpetuating the issue for longer and more bullets than needed.

I come for the tips. And I stay for the F-Zero sound track. Big blue I think. Thumps up!

Here's what I've learnt. When enemy can't see you or haven't detect you and even so if you wore scout armor. If you throw any offensive stratagems the enemy will engage on the pinpoint location of the last known where you thrown it. But you remain unspotted.

Awesome video, since there is a suppressed weapon coming I'm hoping to see a little reworked stealth mechanics. Notes for other snipers and stealth players. The compass turns red and flashes like an alert and you can break contact using terrain, smoke, or various environmental objects like spores or smoke clusters, when you are no longer being hunted it will return to white. [This doesn't mean no-one sees you or isn't attacking just you are not being spawned on with increasing waves] You can tell which enemies are able to call in reinforcements among patrols or positions, for instance Automatons with one arm blade and a pistol, the bugs it's the regular small mobs almost any of them unfortunately, but this makes it easier to avoid or quickly take out dense patrols of smalls or know that you can clear out bigger threats that are alone without consequence. It's better to move place to place often and avoid/break contact before entering a new OBJ, this will make them way less hot. You CAN kill enough enemies to stop an "alert" this really is specific to your position and if you are able to kill quick enough. You can't do this on many OBJs as they actively alert enemies or trigger spawns. "Alerts" cover specific areas and don't track YOU as a player but can follow you if you're keeping aggro, if you go in hit your target the break contact quickly you can avoid direct combat. So while shooting moving then shooting to thin your pursuers is effective you are basically dragging the enemies with you and making it way harder. Visibility effects you and the enemy almost equally, it's more in your favor though, so as the weather changes it's easier to avoid them. Patrols and spawn frequency is directly tied to time in game, possibly directly tied to time AFTER completion of the main objectives and % of completion, the more you've done the more the enemy tries to stop you. If you are swarmed at an objective instead of dying and holding position, break contact or draw the enemy away then return, you can significantly reduce the density of outposts and buy time to complete your tasks. Enemies seem to have a spawn limit, you can have another team or player get aggro and take away tougher enemies across the map making clearing outposts a breeze.

I love playing as a sniper/spotter/stealth role. Jetpack up to a high point to cover my team. Its really satisfying. especially when taking out big targets with a well aimed rifle shot or two

I have found that the Marksman rifle can also be used for taking out enemies. You can use it the same way as the anti-meterial rife. Though it's not as powerful. So you can use this as another weapon so you don't have to call anything diwn right away

Yeah I found out about the booty patrol the hard way too. Its pretty annoying that they just "randomly" spawn near you and just happen to be walking directly in your direction.

Just to share, even if you run out of time and the emergency pickup is called in, you actually can still go complete whatever objectives you want. You'll just have to do it without any sort of stratagems, which really isn't an issue with this sort of challenge since you already weren't using them.

It’s a shame that the devs saw people having fun and changed that until everyone left

I actually did this challenge myself the other day. I was able to successfully complete the main objective and extract and fire only 1 bullet the whole time. It was a really fun challenge. This was on an upload data mission on a level 4 mission.