Putin remains 'in peril' despite Prigozhin's turn around from Moscow | Robert Fox

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"As long as Prigozhin holds Rostov-on-Don, this is still very perilous for Putin."
A bloody encounter might be less likely, but Putin's Prigozhin problem hasn't gone away, says Robert Fox.
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@Mango0fDoom
@Mango0fDoom 11 ай бұрын
Turning around means 100% death sentence for Prigozhin. There is no way Putin or anyone else would ever allow someone to live after that. And there's no way it would ever be a ruse because it makes Putin look incredibly weak. Edit: this comment aged very well!
@flabarre9776
@flabarre9776 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. That old guy is out of touch and should retire.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
If Prigozhin has a lot of support, Putin might have to deal with him. What ever he wants. But yes, this is high stakes gambling. And it does make Putin look weak, whatever happens. Stalin would never have allowed anything like this. Not for a minute he would not.
@jimbob-robob
@jimbob-robob 11 ай бұрын
It was a death sentence for Prigozhin when he entered Rostov...
@mikatu
@mikatu 11 ай бұрын
@@hoodatdondar2664 stalin?? stalin was a joke! he was lucky the Zhukov didn't go for him.
@dr.mikehirschberger7674
@dr.mikehirschberger7674 11 ай бұрын
it aint over till it's over
@RobynLeSueur
@RobynLeSueur 11 ай бұрын
A man who rules through his reputation of strength really can't just let this go. Edit: called it.
@First-Last_name
@First-Last_name 11 ай бұрын
Seems some deal was made.
@331SVTCobra
@331SVTCobra 11 ай бұрын
Prigohzin missed the lesson about Ceaser crossing the Rubicon
@jsaintr.i.r4018
@jsaintr.i.r4018 11 ай бұрын
​@@First-Last_name🔥 Prigozhin's military correspondents report that Putin promised: 1. Resignation of Shoigu. 2. Amnesty for all members of PMC Wagner. 3. Opportunity to return to Africa. At the same time, some of his own military correspondents believe that Prigozhin signed his death warrant with this . What does the lack of eggs lead to?
@georgelayton6641
@georgelayton6641 11 ай бұрын
Neither of them?
@hueylongadmirer1829
@hueylongadmirer1829 11 ай бұрын
Explains Biden.
@haroldbell213
@haroldbell213 11 ай бұрын
He's a marked man no matter what he does.
@sheckyfeinstein
@sheckyfeinstein 11 ай бұрын
Both of them are.
@johnnycrash3270
@johnnycrash3270 11 ай бұрын
Until he takes out Putin and his Puppets then he will be a HERO 😎
@joisagirlsname
@joisagirlsname 11 ай бұрын
He already was.
@logician3641
@logician3641 11 ай бұрын
He delivered Putin his only military victory of the war. Russia is doomed without Wagner.
@iantreefellow
@iantreefellow 11 ай бұрын
Which one do you mean? The Fascist or the gangster?
@chrissmith2114
@chrissmith2114 11 ай бұрын
Already bridges have been blown and roads dug up on approaches to Moscow... so Prighozin made his point.. Oh and Putin deserted Moscow and flew out to St Petersburg..
@Robert-xy4xi
@Robert-xy4xi 11 ай бұрын
So says the MSM and 77th propaganda brigade 😄
@nozhki-busha
@nozhki-busha 11 ай бұрын
@@Robert-xy4xi so says pro-Russian bloggers and telegram, Ivan. Oh and we can see bridges being blown on satellite, comrade. Very hard to hide such things.
@Lykosas
@Lykosas 11 ай бұрын
@@Robert-xy4xi There are videos of roads being dug up and a lot of private, presidential planes leaving moscow moments after prigozhins declarations. But I bet you find biolabs with modified combat mosquitos and pigeons more believable.
@ChrisM541
@ChrisM541 11 ай бұрын
Nope, that was ALL a show - very little was blown up, ONLY what you see on video !! Putin and Prigozhin staged this whole show.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
Look at the cut and paste troll. Spamming the same comment at ten rubles a shot. I would not pay for more that the first post. Much of the Russian elite did flee Moscow. It does not look like Putin did. Didn’t see how he could afford that, anyway, he looks weak enough as it is. Letting Wagner change generals at MoD would finish him.
@plonkersbro
@plonkersbro 11 ай бұрын
Putin ain't gonna just go back to business and forget all about this
@hueylongadmirer1829
@hueylongadmirer1829 11 ай бұрын
So you clearly flunked at social studies.....
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
Yep, either Prigozhin will topple Putin or Putin will end him. Prigozhin seems to have stumbled into this situation like some hot head not reallu understanding ramifications... Its too late now. Either he rises to occasion and uses violence to overthrow Putin or he is dead/imprisoned. DEADMAN WALKING.
@stopato5772
@stopato5772 11 ай бұрын
Pootin ran away. Chicken coward.
@maryf.1956
@maryf.1956 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin must follow through or he can pick what window he would like to go out.
@Zabfo
@Zabfo 11 ай бұрын
fairly sure putin followed through, he had to fly to St Petersburg to change his underpants
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
Yep, otherwise he is GONE! Is he really gonna threaten authoritarian leader with existential violence and think that leaders promises are gonna save his hide? Those promises are null and void and Prigozhin is dead man walking.
@unoriginalname4321
@unoriginalname4321 11 ай бұрын
Hope it's one or more 2nd floor windows
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 11 ай бұрын
@@Zabfo ha
@anthonydixon1282
@anthonydixon1282 11 ай бұрын
And Putin will claim Prigozhin's death was suicide or he accidentally fell out of the 100th storey window
@ParaBellum2024
@ParaBellum2024 11 ай бұрын
Today has to be the maddest day in this whole war!
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 11 ай бұрын
And we were there to witness it.🙂
@Writeous0ne
@Writeous0ne 11 ай бұрын
anything the Kremlin present to Western media isn't real. I'm still shocked you all believe anything they say. The coup wasn't real.
@samipan3410
@samipan3410 11 ай бұрын
Not really . It was nothing compared to what is being done to Ukraine every day
@mutleyeng
@mutleyeng 11 ай бұрын
how is Putin going to explain this after his previous speech
@bossderbosse9939
@bossderbosse9939 11 ай бұрын
hahaha that will be a real struggle 😂
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 11 ай бұрын
Eastasia? We have always been at war with Eastasia.
@Chafflives
@Chafflives 11 ай бұрын
He doesn’t need to explain anything. He’s talking to zombies.
@omniyambot9876
@omniyambot9876 11 ай бұрын
you're doubting Putin's ability to contradict his previous statements?😅
@morpher44
@morpher44 11 ай бұрын
Putin is sick -- in the head
@EeeEee-bm5gx
@EeeEee-bm5gx 11 ай бұрын
Ouch, my neck!!
@EeeEee-bm5gx
@EeeEee-bm5gx 11 ай бұрын
🚑
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 11 ай бұрын
How wonderful to see Robert Fox surrounded by clutter - i bet you "he knows where everything is" though❤ You just know the ol fella's seen everything. The cherry on the top was hearing the use of the word "recherché". How absolutely glorious - bravo to Times Radio for having people on who make absolutely zero effort to dumb things down. A totally refreshing and joyous experience 😄❤
@danhanqvist4237
@danhanqvist4237 11 ай бұрын
One would have thought that this "traitor" who "stabbed the Russian people in the back" would be in some personal peril now.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 11 ай бұрын
Might take a while to fall asleep tonight and he might wake up surrounded by flames.
@kw8757
@kw8757 11 ай бұрын
@@user-lv7ph7hs7l You mean Putin...don't you?
@osricjohnson3235
@osricjohnson3235 11 ай бұрын
Provided he was not just doing Putin's bidding. You can't just move against Putin and suddenly pull out. 😅😅😅
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 11 ай бұрын
@@kw8757 Seems extremely unlikely but I certainly wouldn't mind. Why not both? Shoigu too and go see how deep down they locked up Navalny and see if he still wants the job.
@MusicfromMarrs
@MusicfromMarrs 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin turned back after negotiating the resignation of the Russian minister of defense and Russian army chief, and immunity has been granted for the Wagner group.
@Wally-H
@Wally-H 11 ай бұрын
Why does this feel like a carefully stage-managed charade?
@gpc8984
@gpc8984 11 ай бұрын
er..because it is
@billysummers1616
@billysummers1616 11 ай бұрын
Doubt it, this makes Putin look weak. He's not benefiting from this at all
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 11 ай бұрын
Because Brits and Americans are dumber than rocks on foreign policy? The revolt was real because Prigozhin has a legit beef with Russian military leaders ... but he has no support for a putsch against Putin. If you get your information from Times Radio, some of the dumbest propaganda on the planet, you will remain forever clueless. And that's by design.
@talhahassan2649
@talhahassan2649 11 ай бұрын
Yes it is😅
@theonerightreview3537
@theonerightreview3537 11 ай бұрын
Hit the nail on the head
@Barfsimpson911
@Barfsimpson911 11 ай бұрын
WOW has the world ever witnessed a turnaround of war events like this ? I don't think Hollywood could have written a script like this !
@bugaboo414
@bugaboo414 11 ай бұрын
They did, u are watching a movie 😂
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 11 ай бұрын
@@bugaboo414 It's all the lizard people's doing says I!
@kevin2true582
@kevin2true582 11 ай бұрын
They will for sure
@davelocke
@davelocke 11 ай бұрын
​@@mikicerise6250exactly, I mean, we all know the media always reports the truth....
@russroy6688
@russroy6688 11 ай бұрын
Ever hear about the Trojan Horse ?
@jacobwollam5835
@jacobwollam5835 11 ай бұрын
I knew it was too good to be true.
@serijas737
@serijas737 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like they're preparing to stay in Rostov.
@neyadob
@neyadob 11 ай бұрын
Nah, they've already left it:) All Russians are joking now about this "Game of Thrones' ending".
@serijas737
@serijas737 11 ай бұрын
@@neyadob This war and the news making about it is such a Breakdance.
@brianlowe3529
@brianlowe3529 11 ай бұрын
What’s the point
@HowardNorris-gh1jw
@HowardNorris-gh1jw 11 ай бұрын
I doubt that this is quite over, yet.
@tomcotter8138
@tomcotter8138 11 ай бұрын
No When doors close Windows open
@ThisDaveAndThatJohn
@ThisDaveAndThatJohn 11 ай бұрын
@@tomcotter8138 clever
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
whatever Prigozhin was promised by Putin is null, void and not credible at all...Its in Putins interest to get rid off Prigozhin and maybe wagner as an organization.. Im not really understanding what kind of chess Prigozhin is playing or is he just being a hot head.
@DSAK55
@DSAK55 11 ай бұрын
It going to very awkward at the next Kremlin Christmas Party
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
@@DSAK55 HAHA :D I think someone will abruptly "disappear" before the party.
@no-oneinparticular7264
@no-oneinparticular7264 11 ай бұрын
He's an experienced tactician.
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
@@no-oneinparticular7264 there is only a slight chance of that... To me it seems Prigozhin is a hot head who stumbled into this situation and thinks that you can threaten Putins regime with violence and remain unscathed.... Not likely. If Prigozhin doesnt topple Putin he is a goooooneer.
@tasin2776
@tasin2776 11 ай бұрын
Everything here is noncredible
@war-painter
@war-painter 11 ай бұрын
Wow, Robert Fox is the man! So impressed with this guy. Having sat through hours of pompous old British males all morning talking through their hats with my favorite interviewer, I was about to roll my eyes and switch channels until I heard Robert Fox start talking actual sense. Good stuff!
@aaroningl
@aaroningl 11 ай бұрын
What has their sex got to do with anything !
@mark-o-man6603
@mark-o-man6603 11 ай бұрын
Safe to say that the other wolves in the pack will take notice now that the Alpha is limping. Blood is in the water.
@johnnycrash3270
@johnnycrash3270 11 ай бұрын
And the wolves will join the pack of the NEW ALPHA MALE ?
@fern1009
@fern1009 11 ай бұрын
If they're wolves, wouldn't it be blood in the air? Unless they're sharks.
@ruzziasht349
@ruzziasht349 11 ай бұрын
It's all a ruse, blame Shoigu for the war - so the Soviets can leave Ukraine, and it won't be seen as a surrender.
@ma8632
@ma8632 11 ай бұрын
Maybe Prigozhin was offered a big catering contract!
@natalya-sh2wm
@natalya-sh2wm 11 ай бұрын
Good one😅
@Robert-xy4xi
@Robert-xy4xi 11 ай бұрын
CIA/Ukrainian nationalist secret police offered Prigozhin something!
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
whatever he was promised by Putin is null, void and not credible at all...Its in Putins interest to get rid off Prigozhin and maybe wagner as a organization.. Im not really understanding what kind of chess Prigozhin is playing or is he just being a hot head.
@nozhki-busha
@nozhki-busha 11 ай бұрын
@@Robert-xy4xi lol cool story, comrade.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
@@nozhki-busha and I would not even care if it were true. We hate the regime, Robert-xy4xi, troll pretending to be a real person. We want it destroyed, by any means necessary, and to have its leaders stand in the dock at The Hague. Of course, The Hague does not do capital punishment. Maybe, back in Russia, they can think of something.
@stuartcorbett4902
@stuartcorbett4902 11 ай бұрын
This today has caused a media frenzy just like it was meant to do they call this a (Grey Zone)
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
Don’t pretend it was all part of Putin’s cunning plan. That one is getting old.
@johnnyrockabilly4962
@johnnyrockabilly4962 11 ай бұрын
He had a tantrum the booz has worn off 😂😂
@neilwani1178
@neilwani1178 11 ай бұрын
This all may have been staged.
@johnnyrockabilly4962
@johnnyrockabilly4962 11 ай бұрын
All the worlds a stage 😂
@johnnyrockabilly4962
@johnnyrockabilly4962 11 ай бұрын
@@neilwani1178 all the worlds a stage we are the extras 😂
@Eidelmania
@Eidelmania 11 ай бұрын
@@johnnyrockabilly4962 You maybe a background extra, Ima character actor...
@DH-fk2pr
@DH-fk2pr 11 ай бұрын
@@johnnyrockabilly4962 You're an npc, speak for yourself
@hdaviator9181
@hdaviator9181 11 ай бұрын
This actually proves Prigozhin is smarter than he looks. A convoy on the way to Moscow would have a been a sitting duck. Rostov is arguably much more important for the Ukraine war than Moscow.
@mutleyeng
@mutleyeng 11 ай бұрын
dont think there has ever been any doubting that prigozhin is smart
@callmedeno
@callmedeno 11 ай бұрын
He only realised this halfway up the road?
@citrosoda5370
@citrosoda5370 11 ай бұрын
@@mutleyeng Prigozhin is a savvy opportunist that plays the fool
@GeordieAnarchy
@GeordieAnarchy 11 ай бұрын
He had to look like he’d go the whole way and that he is reasonable by withdrawing. Putin wont resist sending his army south to Rostov where he will lose 3-4 times the men as attacker will have disadvantage. This also makes Putin look unreasonable when he attacks. Plays straight into Prigozhin’s hands.
@callmedeno
@callmedeno 11 ай бұрын
@@GeordieAnarchy The only chance prigozhin had was if big names fell in behind him and he could get to Moscow fast. He now has no chance of takeover, I believe there is almost no Russian popular support for prigozhin as of today. If his master plan to negotiate was to do a faux coup, then that is quite far from smart.
@john_in_phoenix
@john_in_phoenix 11 ай бұрын
Prighozin is sitting on the supply lines for the majority of the Russian military in Ukraine, he has a lot of leverage.
@thusomaepa1852
@thusomaepa1852 11 ай бұрын
They just left rostov sorry the jig is up
@john_in_phoenix
@john_in_phoenix 11 ай бұрын
@@thusomaepa1852 We'll see in 24 hours. Shougu and Gerasimov shouldn't go near any windows, and Putin isn't really the type to forgive and forget Priggy. None of them seem to be in danger of living a long life. Certainly is a big Russian victory, 25k troops start marching on Moscow and get to loot a logistics hub. Depends on how you define or spin "victory".
@JasonWilshire
@JasonWilshire 11 ай бұрын
why then was Prigozhin complaining that his troops were not receiving the ammunition, food rations and logistics??... it seems as though your theory might have holes... he has no air support!!
@thusomaepa1852
@thusomaepa1852 11 ай бұрын
@@john_in_phoenix do u think they will loot and them go back to camps this was a plan and soon we will understand what this charade ws about but ukraine should be weary
@Bravedog2017
@Bravedog2017 11 ай бұрын
My compliments to the journalists, you have always brilliant guests.
@no-oneinparticular7264
@no-oneinparticular7264 11 ай бұрын
But she couldn't pronounce Progozin
@stefanhammel192
@stefanhammel192 11 ай бұрын
Prighozin was offered free soft drinks of choice
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
Pirogozhin is a goner if he doesnt topple Putin.
@JohnyZman
@JohnyZman 11 ай бұрын
After getting his button
@stefanhammel192
@stefanhammel192 11 ай бұрын
@@JohnyZman Yeah Putin was like ' i can't believe I stuck up for this guy I feel like ive been stabbed in the haaat'
@danthemanwhocancan5263
@danthemanwhocancan5263 11 ай бұрын
Mango juice... it was a Rubicon moment..
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 11 ай бұрын
Damn,.. I was looking forward to the fireworks.
@akc783
@akc783 11 ай бұрын
You know this guy is smart when he has so many books he can’t even fit them all on his book shelf. There is something refreshing about seeing the messiness in the background. He’s a real person rather than some elite who has a staff to make everything perfect.
@MikeJones-oe3do
@MikeJones-oe3do 11 ай бұрын
Just because he has a lot of books, doesn’t mean he reads them
@donnieglenellyn
@donnieglenellyn 11 ай бұрын
Excellent guest speaker. Very knowledgeable. Would love to hear his analysis in the future
@pmcccar
@pmcccar 11 ай бұрын
My analysis is that this guy needs to clean up his room. Slob
@kuminanida333
@kuminanida333 11 ай бұрын
This is without a doubt the best discussion and line of questioning with logical answers that I have heard on the topic this is excellent coverage
@bryanbelshaw7725
@bryanbelshaw7725 11 ай бұрын
The only thing in peril is that FAILED counter offensive.
@s0ycapitan
@s0ycapitan 11 ай бұрын
Oh dear, has it all finished in a whimper after a day. Well it was exciting while it lasted.
@brendonlepage5576
@brendonlepage5576 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant. A real expert who knows his stuff and explains it thoroughly. More of him please
@bg1616
@bg1616 11 ай бұрын
Yes but he needs to hire a maid 🙄 😒
@brendonlepage5576
@brendonlepage5576 11 ай бұрын
@@bg1616 I love the mad professor background tbh
@bg1616
@bg1616 11 ай бұрын
@@brendonlepage5576 I know what you mean lol I like the fact that he doesn't give a damn haha shows that he's consumed by his work more than domestic trivialities!
@s6aboomar490
@s6aboomar490 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful ❤
@Mikino1976
@Mikino1976 11 ай бұрын
Finally, someone with a messier room than mine
@uanbator1963
@uanbator1963 11 ай бұрын
Both sides were checking who will become traitor. Now they know who was leaving country and who was contacting who.
@johnzuijdveld9585
@johnzuijdveld9585 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin has already said why he is doing this! He says he wants to punish those responsible for Wagners losses due to the lack of munitions supplied to Wagner by the Russian military, so that puts Shoigu and the MoD, center of his crosshair and maybe Spewtin🤮 as well if he goes after Prigozhin. Slava Ukraine! 💙💛 Glory to the heroes🎖
@no-oneinparticular7264
@no-oneinparticular7264 11 ай бұрын
Spewtin😂, can I have permission to re use that?
@AllaVictor
@AllaVictor 11 ай бұрын
Maybe he is “Spewtin”, but does it makes comedian, drug addict and puppet “Zelya” better?
@johnzuijdveld9585
@johnzuijdveld9585 11 ай бұрын
@@AllaVictor You know if you believe every bit of bullsh*t that the Russian propaganda tells you . . . it makes YOU the pathetic schmuck! You don't know anything but the BS your fed! Slava Ukraine! 💙💛 Glory to the heroes🎖
@lancegauthier489
@lancegauthier489 11 ай бұрын
I really thought Putin would end up hiding in a shower stall at Mar-a-Lago.
@user-rp8ri5lc9w
@user-rp8ri5lc9w 11 ай бұрын
Luka: Priggy ....what will it take for you to love Pooty again? Priggy: He has to hang Shoigu and Gerosimov in Red Square! Pooty: Luka ....what did he say, what did he say? Luka: He said you were tall, handsome and very powerful. Pooty: Tell him ok, I will let him live Luka: Priggy....he says he will put you in charge of the entire war Priggy: Ok....I will let him live. This should end very well!
@WS-zd4jz
@WS-zd4jz 11 ай бұрын
Does Prigozhin think Putin is going to kiss and makeup, all is forgiven? Yeah right.
@jtf2dan
@jtf2dan 11 ай бұрын
putin ran away and blocked anyone from entering moscow.....ran like a coward. The people will not tolerate a coward and failure as their leader...putins time is over!
@louisgiokas2206
@louisgiokas2206 11 ай бұрын
Mr. Fox is the most informed commentator I have heard yet on this subject. Some of the people who I have watched, especially on this channel, just don't seem to know what they are talking about. They often seem to just be repeating what is trending on social media. Kudos!
@war-painter
@war-painter 11 ай бұрын
I agree! I was about to give up on Times Radio, some of these geezers were getting rehashed info from two weeks ago and mansplaining it to death. Talk about talking down to your audience! But not Robert Fox, he was marvelous and super engaging the way he brought past and present events together into a seamless whole. Brilliant guy. More please.
@louisgiokas2206
@louisgiokas2206 11 ай бұрын
@@war-painter Glad to see some else understands. I just an interview on the channel with Tobias Ellwood who also seems to have a good grasp of the situation. Worth watching.
@TheFinn1976
@TheFinn1976 11 ай бұрын
Robert is a man in the know. Fair play.
@andsoitgoes631
@andsoitgoes631 11 ай бұрын
This man called it - - brilliant
@Fo-shizzle-my-nizzle
@Fo-shizzle-my-nizzle 11 ай бұрын
FFS! Prigozhin - Greatest troll in human history!
@user-qe9gt5rg6t
@user-qe9gt5rg6t 11 ай бұрын
Russian to the core then 😂
@fuzziadventure
@fuzziadventure 11 ай бұрын
Americans r sad bcz of no coup..
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 11 ай бұрын
These are the Brits ... but the Brits are just boils on the Yankee's butts at this point .... so yes the Americans and their vassals are sad.
@PGM991
@PGM991 11 ай бұрын
what a shame, they could've entertain us some more.😅
@johnvine5731
@johnvine5731 11 ай бұрын
I need closure.
@Travis_22
@Travis_22 11 ай бұрын
Robert has a wonderful and slightly wry way of describing things 🙂
@trevorkeating229
@trevorkeating229 11 ай бұрын
He just keeps referencing things that were said 100 years ago, and it takes him 2 minutes to do it. You completely lose track of what he was talking about.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 11 ай бұрын
You can tell he loves History, some of those references were pretty obscure like the city "rebellion" on the Adriatic.
@englishvoodoo676
@englishvoodoo676 11 ай бұрын
Dead man walking, Moscow was his only play.
@claudemaggard7162
@claudemaggard7162 11 ай бұрын
No it isnt. He has the main suply hub fir the ukraine war
@Sevenmountainisevil
@Sevenmountainisevil 11 ай бұрын
Something just doesn't smell right with this
@orionoregon974
@orionoregon974 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin has nothing to lose now by putting everything into this, This is a tactical retreat. He is dead if he gives up.
@cglees
@cglees 11 ай бұрын
Nice to hear some sense
@tabbypurrkins9129
@tabbypurrkins9129 11 ай бұрын
The chef sent himself back.
@khiem1939
@khiem1939 11 ай бұрын
Note that when the Ukraine was threatened by Russian invaders President Zelensky was offered refuge, but he said "I don't need a ride, I need ammunition"! When Putin was threatened by the Wagner Group's convoy moving towards Moscow having shot down 3 Russian helicopters and 1 Russian fighter, he FLED to St. Petersburg!
@David-vn4qu
@David-vn4qu 11 ай бұрын
Common sense for any leader. Times have changed since William Wallace. Zelenskyy hasn’t been on the front line, even though the media portrayed it that way. Kiev hasn’t yet come under siege since the invasion first started in 2022.
@DiligentX
@DiligentX 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the obvious 🤓
@aminh8330
@aminh8330 11 ай бұрын
Source: trust me bro 😂🎉
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 11 ай бұрын
They should throw Vladimir Putin down his marble staircase, as Polonium isn't expedient...
@alastairbrewster4274
@alastairbrewster4274 11 ай бұрын
@@David-vn4quyeah but in that initial invasion he remained in Kiev , that’s the point. He was stoical and showed leadership by remaining unlike what we’ve just seen.
@Investor9872
@Investor9872 11 ай бұрын
He never said Putin attacked his troops. He's blaming the Russian's general.
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 11 ай бұрын
That's correct. Good luck to you in the UK propaganda matrix.
@donnaweetch7589
@donnaweetch7589 11 ай бұрын
Oh god my heart and prayers go out to the people and all those that are innocent 🙏🙏🙏
@stefan2796
@stefan2796 11 ай бұрын
For a few hours, the people of Rostov-on-Don felt liberated...
@murkeyterky6852
@murkeyterky6852 11 ай бұрын
Hopefully Ukraine was able to take advantage of the chaos and make some gains at least.
@wzupppp
@wzupppp 11 ай бұрын
He made a big mistake here. Shouldve used the momentum. Now he looks weaker and wont get out of this alive
@BridgeTROLL777
@BridgeTROLL777 11 ай бұрын
A fellow machiavellian, you are correct! Prigozhins only play is to topple Putin that is if he cares about his freedom or life.
@wzupppp
@wzupppp 11 ай бұрын
@@BridgeTROLL777 couldve caught putin off guard. Now moscow will adjust and plan his assasination. Putin has killed people for lesser crimes, he wont let this one slide
@TheDJGrandPa
@TheDJGrandPa 11 ай бұрын
But the Kremlin is looking even weaker. Something big is boiling.
@dianeshelton9592
@dianeshelton9592 11 ай бұрын
@@BridgeTROLL777he has made Putin look incredibly weak. All the oligarch are now looking at a fallible Putin. Perhaps Prighozin just wanted to announce, Warner’s are for sale for your coup. Right who is going to pay me the most.
@donnacribb5712
@donnacribb5712 11 ай бұрын
Greàt
@billwellington4339
@billwellington4339 11 ай бұрын
Putin won't let this go...
@electronwave4551
@electronwave4551 11 ай бұрын
I'll throw this into the ring... Scenario 1: Putin and Prigozhin were informed that Kiev could retake most of the occupied territory if the coup went ahead. Scenario 2: This was a feign designed to get Kiev to over commit their forces in the belief Putin would recall many Russian troops to fend off the coup. Scenario 3: Putin has agreed to share military decisions with Prigozhin. Scenario 4: Prigozhin needs more time to put the coup into effect. Scenario 5: Prigozhin has been done away with and they released AI audio.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
Any plan that relies on Russia outsmarting Ukraine will fail. So much for 2.
@martywanlass4774
@martywanlass4774 11 ай бұрын
I'm quite sure Zelenskyy is considering all possibilities. He's good at smelling rats.
@stopato5772
@stopato5772 11 ай бұрын
@@calwatch1496 Have y been asleep for the past year?
@surfaceten510n
@surfaceten510n 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin has three options suicide run or go to the front line for the first time instead of turning up after the battle to bathe in the glory and get killed and die the hero he thinks he is.
@johnnycrash3270
@johnnycrash3270 11 ай бұрын
YA RIGHT PUTIN !
@birtlee2078
@birtlee2078 11 ай бұрын
There’s no glory in Russia - they have become the s@@t of the world!
@bc-guy852
@bc-guy852 11 ай бұрын
This commentator is spot-on.
@jesterface69
@jesterface69 11 ай бұрын
This man needs to clean his room
@curiouscatlabincgetsworrie7755
@curiouscatlabincgetsworrie7755 11 ай бұрын
I like her haha! Great questions! "Does Pregozhin just go back to Bahkmut and keep fighing after this?" and she knows he won't of course but it set's the scene for the next part of the interview, doesn't it? :D And alas then it ends kind of. Oh, well ...
@Kenshiroit
@Kenshiroit 11 ай бұрын
unless the halt its a bluff
@Dan-id8wv
@Dan-id8wv 11 ай бұрын
The grand old duke of York, He had ten thousand men. He marched them up to the top of the hill, And he marched them down again.
@cyuiyuwyguiyui8540
@cyuiyuwyguiyui8540 11 ай бұрын
Russian fanbois have gone hiding...just like Putin.. 😂😋
@corvus4135
@corvus4135 11 ай бұрын
Better look for the drugs that someone hid from you and spare us here your pointless comments.
@timothytomblin
@timothytomblin 11 ай бұрын
@@corvus4135 F å. Ğ ğ. Ø ť fan boi 😂
@corvus4135
@corvus4135 11 ай бұрын
@@timothytomblin Very interesting 😮🤔🙄
@jamesdoman6387
@jamesdoman6387 11 ай бұрын
We trip out over every event. Led by you...the media. Especially these days.
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 11 ай бұрын
That's their job. Feed people nonsense and keep them distracted and dumbed down. Seems to be working.
@sexysportsfan1
@sexysportsfan1 11 ай бұрын
So what becomes of the "back stabber" ?? That relationship is toast
@N-Lee
@N-Lee 11 ай бұрын
The Smallest Speck of Dust Can Destroy the Biggest Machine.
@lmcsquaredgreendale3223
@lmcsquaredgreendale3223 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget that Prigozhin still holds Rostov on Don. That's his ace in the hole. I think he's just waiting to see what the rest of the Oligarchs will do. He spoke to men identified as generals, and the bases in Rostov on Don are 22nd Special Forces Brigade, 1536 Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment and the Tsentralny Airbase. Since Ukraine has listed the generals killed by Ukraine and they haven't been seen since I would say that Generals are hiding out and issuing orders from Rostov on Don. If Rostov on Don is the center that directs all of the army in Ukraine then he has a lot of power in his hands. He's been becoming popular according to Russian news sources and Putin has been looking a bit haggard and talking or rather rambling in some cases. I'm am sure that Prigozhin can't or won't back down now, his pride is on the line here and he had as of December 2022 50K or more forces. Perhaps some are still in Africa if he has contracts with whoever is at war there now. I don't think he is just acting, I think he pays his men well and was willing to accept losses but he lost so many in Bakhmut due to Putin's generals refusing to send war materials and he may have lost a lot of money as Putin's assets have been frozen and he's been forced to use gold to purchase weapons so perhaps Prigozhin hasn't been paid either.
@mitchyoung93
@mitchyoung93 11 ай бұрын
'Prorozhin' [sic] didn't say 'consider', he said he would. They are packing up right this moment. Just slightly longer than Liz Truss's term as Prime Minister.
@curtcoeurdelion
@curtcoeurdelion 11 ай бұрын
„When you go to war with me, I give no quarter and I ask for no quarter. When a man chooses a path for himself, whether the choice be right or wrong, a man has to be true to himself, stay on that path, no matter how difficult it may be.“ John Gotti
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
Of course, being true to yourself means nothing if you are no good in the first place. Like Gotti. Or Putin.
@howiehall4622
@howiehall4622 11 ай бұрын
Very apt quote considering that both Putin and Prigizhin are basically crime lords.
@sheckyfeinstein
@sheckyfeinstein 11 ай бұрын
Advice from a bad man.
@Shinobi_ninja_clan
@Shinobi_ninja_clan 11 ай бұрын
Who died alone in prison in great pain, not somebody to follow
@curtcoeurdelion
@curtcoeurdelion 11 ай бұрын
He did exactly what hat he said, and lived by his very own rules until the end. That’s why he he died the way he did. Not too hard to understand, if you have at least three working brain cells.
@sandpiper2012
@sandpiper2012 11 ай бұрын
As opposed to American journalism, this is real journalism....
@lorenzo1660
@lorenzo1660 11 ай бұрын
Im afraid that wasn't Aldo Moro, it was Giulio Andreotti talking of "convergenze parallele"...
@gerhard7323
@gerhard7323 11 ай бұрын
Definitely one of the downsides of having a largely autonomous private mercenary army at your disposal (or not).
@Freespeachmeansfreespeach
@Freespeachmeansfreespeach 11 ай бұрын
Wagner 6 hour special military operation
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 11 ай бұрын
Self deletion operation. 10 years to go from hot dog stand to Putins henchman and finally quasi army and now he's probably gonna be in a hot dog.
@guyspooner4580
@guyspooner4580 11 ай бұрын
The notion that Wagner couldn’t sustain a coup with 50,000 well armed troops is laughable. He could. There would be blood. But he had Moscow off guard and vulnerable. Moment has gone. Now they both have a huge problem
@TDCLOL
@TDCLOL 11 ай бұрын
they don't have 50k. that's worldwide. at best 25k in russia.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
He would need a defection from the regular army. Don’t see why it is laughable that 50,000 men are not enough.
@duckducks649
@duckducks649 11 ай бұрын
I agree the moment has gone for both Wagner and Ukraine.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 11 ай бұрын
@@duckducks649 Ukraine? Just getting started.
@unoriginalname4321
@unoriginalname4321 11 ай бұрын
Assuming Wagner and/or moscow have actually stopped
@Treetopflyer777
@Treetopflyer777 11 ай бұрын
What on earth just happened here??!
@Pearl-uw5tn
@Pearl-uw5tn 11 ай бұрын
Short lived glory
@seanlindsay7610
@seanlindsay7610 11 ай бұрын
prigozin has now been pardoned by putin, looks like theyb agreed that shougi be removed and wagner goes to africa and pulls out of ukraine.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 11 ай бұрын
I was wondering if he had secret authorisation from Putin otherwise he is dead.
@sayamalu2495
@sayamalu2495 11 ай бұрын
It’s crazy, these mercenaries clearly are out of control from the Russian govt
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 11 ай бұрын
Not now. They have completely backed down
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 11 ай бұрын
Ya think?
@garybarrett4881
@garybarrett4881 11 ай бұрын
Awww. But. But. I’ve got all this popcorn 🍿…
@martamilutinovic6172
@martamilutinovic6172 11 ай бұрын
And the comedian award of the year goes to.....🎉
@michelefiorilla9714
@michelefiorilla9714 11 ай бұрын
Perhaps it was all a ruse to draw Ukraine into acting early and showing their hand by sending in their reserve troops?
@bossderbosse9939
@bossderbosse9939 11 ай бұрын
nah, the damage done to russias reputation was way to high in contrast
@unknownvirus_uk
@unknownvirus_uk 11 ай бұрын
That's what my thoughts were
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 11 ай бұрын
That would make no sense. Ukraine wouldn't likely attack unless a legitimate hole opened in Russian defences. It could be a very elaborate ruse by Putin to identify real traitors in his ranks, but that seems highly unlikely as well. More likely Prigozhin had some collaborators inside Moscow who got cold feet at the last minute.
@KPad87
@KPad87 11 ай бұрын
I wanted Putin and Wagner to go to war 😂
@Paul-dv4dr
@Paul-dv4dr 11 ай бұрын
It will be more interesting than that.
@CynicallyObnoxious
@CynicallyObnoxious 11 ай бұрын
@@Paul-dv4dr oh yea like it wont be today or tomorrow maybe not even a year from now but Putin looks weak now Wagner challenged authority and got what they wanted people started protesting Putin again......Vlad did not come out looking good
@edwardpi9852
@edwardpi9852 11 ай бұрын
We will it is Russian history after defeats in wwi and Russo Japanese war Russian Empire collapsed. NATO will not let Russia win even guaranteed by agreement between Black Rock and Ukraine. If Russia wins agreement is void.
@a13xdunlop
@a13xdunlop 11 ай бұрын
It would not be much of a war with less that 25 thousand troops most of which are spread all over Ukraine, bit of a farce really. A few aircraft would take them out within Russia in a matter of hours. They were deluded into thinking the Russian Army would join them in a Coup, they have clearly been watching too much CNN.
@YazzyEmInnocent05
@YazzyEmInnocent05 11 ай бұрын
Surely what kills an elephant is it's strength and not the 🐜 ant.
@Dixie3888
@Dixie3888 11 ай бұрын
Times radio has kept to serious journalism and asks intelligent questions, and lets credible guests answer. Also, unlike its own newspapers and Radio 4, it is not woke. Can it survive as a serious media outlet, or will it go woke? Carry on with this credible stuff, and I will listen more.
@emm_arr
@emm_arr 11 ай бұрын
What's wrong with opposing racism and sexism? Are you a wifebeater?
@stephendawe1572
@stephendawe1572 11 ай бұрын
Just when we were hoping Wagner would cause civil war in Russia must wait for another day! Such a shame 😮
@emildavidsen1404
@emildavidsen1404 11 ай бұрын
A video of a large force of kadyrovites on the outskirts of the Rostov city was recorded a few hours ago.
@nsambacharles5959
@nsambacharles5959 11 ай бұрын
This is diversonary from the counter offensive back lashes
@Sams-sh2oy
@Sams-sh2oy 11 ай бұрын
Prighozhin made the biggest mistake of his life surrendering to Putin.
@hueylongadmirer1829
@hueylongadmirer1829 11 ай бұрын
When did he "surrender"?
@Sams-sh2oy
@Sams-sh2oy 11 ай бұрын
​@@hueylongadmirer1829 He didn't even realise he has fallen into trap trusting Putin. Surrendering doesn't always mean you have to surrender your weapon to the enemy. Try to make some senses. You will understand. Putin is not leaving Prighozhin intact, today or tomorrow. This is a point of no return situation for Prighozhin. The world of Wagner will not be the same again I can tell you.
@user-ky8lh2hb5c
@user-ky8lh2hb5c 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin will never go against the president. And the president knows this.
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 11 ай бұрын
He made it the day he stopped selling hot dogs.
@niklaswikholm514
@niklaswikholm514 11 ай бұрын
Prigozin gains power, weapons, men.....
@jokulsnow9903
@jokulsnow9903 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. But why not do that first? I think Prigozhin might be a wee bit of a hot head. If he thinks an incompetent MOD is getting his people killed he might respond by marching to their front door. But is it to overthrow Putin? Or is he just tired of the MOD?
@Dynasty1818
@Dynasty1818 11 ай бұрын
What a dumpster fire of a situation as he has now in fact fled Russia and stopped the uprising.
@user-vy4xx2qp3d
@user-vy4xx2qp3d 11 ай бұрын
He chickened out smh
@stevejames.993
@stevejames.993 11 ай бұрын
They're mercenaries, they don't have to be there in the first place.
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 11 ай бұрын
Has the audio been verified? I’d trust a video more. Russia may have just hacked Prigozhin’s social media and used a voice actor.
@aks99-4
@aks99-4 11 ай бұрын
Cope
@sir_djii1720
@sir_djii1720 11 ай бұрын
"don't trust what your hear and trust only half of what you see"
@RubenRyb66
@RubenRyb66 11 ай бұрын
seriously. Sky reported this too and they dont have a clip either.
@electronwave4551
@electronwave4551 11 ай бұрын
The audio is interesting. First time I recall where Prigozhin is recorded without cussing, nor raising his voice, and recorded with fidelity inside a smallish room. Most times it is distorted, low-fidelity and made in a sizable room that has few reverberations.
@the_real_glabnurb
@the_real_glabnurb 11 ай бұрын
It sounds authentic. Also there would have been refutation from other Wagner associated channels, if it was fake.
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