Putin's Downfall: Military experts outline how Ukraine conflict will end

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To mark a year since the invasion of Ukraine began, we speak to a panel of leading military experts. Make time to listen to this unique discussion.
- Maj. Gen. Rupert Jones Former Standing Joint Force Commander.
- Charles Kupchan former senior director for European affairs on the staff of the National Security Council.
- Lord George Robertson Former Sec Gen of NATO.
Former NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson has told Times Radio the West must ramp up production of weapons for Ukraine.
Speaking on a panel on Times Radio's Frontline with Lucy Fisher he said Russia had switched to a 'war economy' and the West needed to catch up:
"Russia is running a war economy, He's declared war on us. Their defence expenditure is going up by 60%. In the last year, year on year, he's opening factories, they are producing more tanks, producing more armoured vehicles, more ammunition, and what do we do? Hardly anything at all. We're running out of these things. And we're certainly not ramping up production in our factories. You the Americans are giving Abrams tanks, great stuff off the production line, not not from their huge store. No. The reason, of course, is because they don't want sensitive technology to get into Russian hands. But you know, but we're not as serious about this war as Russia is. And you know, Leon Trotsky once said, you might not be interested in this war, but this war is interested in you. We should, we should learn that."
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@ListenToTimesRadio Жыл бұрын

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@CjrRbt Жыл бұрын

"Bankers will make sure we are in debt, pharmaceutical companies that we feel bad, arms manufacturers will make sure we fight each other, the media that we don't find out the truth, and governments will make sure everything is legal .... Show, the payment is made at the end ... "

@thinkerly1 Жыл бұрын

@@CjrRbt All of which is called "misdirection". This story is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

@susanfarley1332 Жыл бұрын

@@thinkerly1 thank you for your comment.

@bhubankumarchhetri3311 Жыл бұрын

Russia have many friends . more than 200 country supports Russia . West they have only 50 country support ukraine , some of them are neutral.

@mrkey1003 Жыл бұрын

If you want to get closer to understanding Putin just watch Julia Loffe. She is closer than anyone on-line to deconstruct the issues we all face with this version of Russia. You won't be let down and Times Radio should do a major feature with her.

@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Жыл бұрын

If Russia is allowed to keep any of the territories that they invaded last year, they will declare it a victory. Moreover, this has always been their strategy in the other countries they have invaded or occupied. It's called "salami slicing." Such a "settlement" will only give Russia the opportunity to regroup and arm for the next invasion until they get what they want, which is a return to Soviet Bloc positions. To imagine otherwise is naive.

@mwtrolle Жыл бұрын

We need Ukraine to get its 2013 boarder back, and Russia has to leave Georgia and Moldova.

@gha9543 Жыл бұрын

The Black sea will become the Dead sea and Crimea will become Greece ie Economic migrants.

@khiem1939 Жыл бұрын

True, the only acceptable outcome is the breakup of the Russian Federation, within 20 years or less Russia will be no problem, that's is if it's still a viable Nation!

@thinkerly1 Жыл бұрын

@@mwtrolle Agreed. I propose that after the Russians are kicked out of Ukraine, the Ukrainians help the Moldovans to take back Transnistria. Any ethnic Russians who are not capable of living as a minority should be kicked out.

@robertmiskey5502 Жыл бұрын

You are correct. Ukraine can not cede any territory to Russia. Russia will only regroup and continue its attacks. There will be no peace under those conditions.

@iggle6448 Жыл бұрын

Lucy Fisher - a great, informed, intelligent and talented interviewer. This piece flowed well and got to the heart of matters.

@coreyham3753 Жыл бұрын

The only final solution is regime change in Russia. The Russian people need to take out Putin and his top corrupt cronies.

@RobLittleuk Жыл бұрын

Indeed Lucy is at her best when she is NOT reading from a script

@jefffehringer4538 Жыл бұрын

Agreed...this was my first exposure to her and she led the conversation quite well

@huntergatherer7796 Жыл бұрын

She is a fluffer.

@valuggel8972 Жыл бұрын

But no one dared to ponder the possibility Russia wins🤪

@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын

"you may not be interested in this war, but this war is interested in you" Leon Trotsky. A gem of a quote.

@KenHunter-zu1tc Жыл бұрын

The origin is "You may no believe in war but war believes in you."

@salonez91 Жыл бұрын

Better is to ask yourself why is that war interested in you ? Why it happened in the first place? Question that nobody wants to talk about in political west elite propagandists.

@josephphoenix1376 Жыл бұрын

Lenin,s Key Operative in the Russian Revolution!

@Viewable11 Жыл бұрын

A citizen cannot afford to ignore politics. Ignorance can cost your life and those of your loved ones. Even before this, it can cost your freedom.

@kathleenmann7311 Жыл бұрын

💯👍 🛑🇷🇺🚀

@michaelnoble3183 Жыл бұрын

Never forget two famous quotes. "Speak softly and carry a big stick," and "Peace through strength "

@clonie9963 Жыл бұрын

Lol you people are totally deluded Russia is undefeated

@peace-now Жыл бұрын

These two quotes are spoken by bullies and oppressors. People who want peace follow the teachings of Jesus. They are kind and show compassion.

@igorole Жыл бұрын

@@clonie9963 all the comments like this joined youtube between 1 year and a day ago… hmmmm 🧐

@Valhura77 Жыл бұрын

Speak softly, well Russia tried that with the Minsk Accords 1 and 2 and the conflict avoidance offers made to Ukraine right before the invasion but as Merkle admitted the Ukrainians agreed to those accords in bad faith to use the time to prepare for war. Well Ukraine is now finding out that Russia has a big stick, it took awhile to get the cobwebs off but as Bakhmut is about to fall, Zelensky is going to find out that what Kissinger said about he US is painfully true "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"

@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Жыл бұрын

@@clonie9963 Afghanistan

@fatbloke6223 Жыл бұрын

'' It's not about the size of the dog in the fight, it's about the size of the fight in the dog'' Sun Tzu probably...

@carlfromtheoc1788 Жыл бұрын

His brother Shi Tzu actually.........

@bluefox3634 Жыл бұрын

@@carlfromtheoc1788 I've heard that, due to Ukrainian shelling, the zoo at Belgorod in Russia had to close and all the animals had to be re-homed (none were harmed in the telling of this joke). But actually it wasn't a problem as the zoo only had one animal; it was a dog. In fact, it was a Shi Tzu.

@SCRUT Жыл бұрын

@fatbloke More fight you put in hungry UKR dog you get a dead horse

@slenderman27490 Жыл бұрын

Ukraine already has manpower and equipment problem.

@turboplazz Жыл бұрын

@@slenderman27490 these people need to wake up. Ukraine is being routed. The cost to win this war is obscenely huge and not worth it for the vast majority of the world. This is nothing more than bruised western egos perpetuating a lost cause.

@WayneTheSeine Жыл бұрын

I love the way Lucy Fisher handles herself....she comes across as very serious, intelligent and very well spoken. Here in America it is more about the makeup, wardrobe, and beauty and having little to do with substance. Lucy has that authentic beauty.....is awesome.

@tommygun5038 Жыл бұрын

This is a different forum.

@govinda102000 Жыл бұрын

truth. John also with the Times is another fine interviewer also not too much elaboration with his questions.

@XSD.1. Жыл бұрын

I agree fully. American presenters are a pain to listen and watch.

@sempressfi Жыл бұрын

Fellow American and I've really appreciated Lucy Fisher (and Times Radio in general) over the last year 💙 has been a wild experience watching not just Ukraine but the politics going on in the UK not to mention what's going on here at home lol journalists and informed commentators have helped a ton in just processing let alone staying sane!

@sempressfi Жыл бұрын

@@XSD.1. we have a few good ones but very much have appreciated our allies in Europe for the calm yet firm discussions and interviews over the last year!

@darrylday30 Жыл бұрын

“Pay more now or pay much more later” appears to be the message.

@mikedunn7795 Жыл бұрын

I wasn't going to watch the whole discussion,but got quickly drawn into it. Well done

@AlanStrandbygaard Жыл бұрын

I got a REAL bad feeling listening to Charles Kupchan. It's his kind of opinions we can easily live without.

@mike03a3 Жыл бұрын

As an Obama advisor he may be partly responsible for this mess. Obama and the other western leaders barely gave Putin a slap on the wrist when he took Crimea and his little green men invaded the Donbas. How can he seriously think anyone can negotiate a peace with Putin that will actually last.

@njswampfox474 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Subtly pushing appeasement.

@philwatson2447 Жыл бұрын

Concur. He repeatedly tried to co-opt the discussion well beyond the questions asked. At best it was bad manners on his part on a UK radio show. The tolerance and good manners of the moderator and other guests were exemplary. As a former USN officer who interfaced with the Royal Navy, I am a great admirer of their expertise and utter professionalism. We Americans would do well to do more listening and less talking.

@turboplazz Жыл бұрын

pick up a gun and go . How many young Ukraine men have to die for you to be happy?

@AlanStrandbygaard Жыл бұрын

@@turboplazz Preferably none. But I wouldn't mind Russian men dying.

@marisabenson1222 Жыл бұрын

The fastest way to end this war is to provide Ukraine with all the means of doing so.

@drmachinewerke1 Жыл бұрын

They need W33s to clear Ukraine fields of Russian Trash. This up to about 20 miles from the Russian boarder

@ebillyboi Жыл бұрын

The danger being..Putin using tactical nuclear strikes as a last resort

@turboplazz Жыл бұрын

They are outmatched. With or without weapons. If the last year has not shown you this, then you have a blood thirst. End the bloodshed carve borders build fences and begin living in peace. Winning is Peace. Land does not help anybody that is 6 feet underground.

@peterwarner553 Жыл бұрын

@turboplazz there was peace, borders were marked out and agreed upon by both parties and the international community, it didn't stop russia from invading, why wouldn't russia invade in the future given that they have proven they are incapable of respecting treaties in the recent past?

@davidsnedeker8098 Жыл бұрын

@@turboplazz another excuse on why your geographic and historical ignorance is obvious? who could be against "peace"? This is the 4th Russian invasion of Ukraine, each time despite Russian promises. And with your ignorance of even events of the last 20 years, it is a sure bet that you are clueless of the millions of Ukrainians killed by russia in the last 50 years. Post less, study more.

@ananamu2248 Жыл бұрын

I really like the Scottish guy . Sensible and speaking from the soul.....thankyou

@helenswan705 Жыл бұрын

George Robertson. I agree. When I first saw him I thought 'hmmmm' but he spoke with great knowledge and understanding, I am impressed

@sbirchsbirch6232 Жыл бұрын

When is Frontline scheduled for? I looked at Times Radio schedule but couldn't find it. I really admire Lucy Fisher and her team's work with this show.

@alainlefebvre9860 Жыл бұрын

However it ends, Russia has weakened itself like no-one could have ever imagined. They're now viewed as worse than North Korea by billions of people.

@livingtribunal4110 Жыл бұрын

Whereabouts in Russia do you live?

@alainlefebvre9860 Жыл бұрын

@@livingtribunal4110 irrelevant.

@livingtribunal4110 Жыл бұрын

@@alainlefebvre9860 No, it’s relevant: you 'seem' to know - along with billions of others - about life in Russia...so I'm curious which territory/region?

@noodleppoodle Жыл бұрын

@@livingtribunal4110 what are you trying to tell us? That for people inside Russia the country is an enlightened liberal democracy that is doing a great job for its citizens who enjoy wealthy lives and political liberties? And we just don’t see from outside how wonderful and democratic it is?

@petje2435 Жыл бұрын

@@livingtribunal4110 He wants to throw you out the window. National sport in Russia 🤣

@LordandGodofYouTube Жыл бұрын

Lucy is a great interviewer.

@Kingcarparpeggio Жыл бұрын

Yes she is…….she doesn’t keep interrupting trying to push her own narrative!!!

@chrisbaxter5894 Жыл бұрын

This was one of the most impressive interviews of the Ukraine war I have watched. The insight was remarkable. The direction of the war was clearly explained. So were the difficulties that we as a people will have to accept as a result of this war. Lord Robertson was clearly very knowledgeable as a result of his background. I liked the way the answers were given. I liked the way that for once, a politician actually answered something. Therefore, I can only conclude that he knows the subject. Why is this man not leading his party rather than sitting in the dark like a mushroom. He should be given this broken political party to be run properly. Great viewing.

@torealexandersen2179 Жыл бұрын

Such a pool of competent people, also thank you to the moderator for doing an excellent job. Let's keep up the international collaboration, so we never again see a world war. Love and peace from Denmark

@toi_techno Жыл бұрын

I'm sick of hearing about a supposed "war" with NATO. Russia would last about two hours and would be whining about nuclear weapons from the safe side of their border. It's nonsensical to keep saying it.

@evolassunglasses4673 Жыл бұрын

America could not defeat shepherd's in Afghanistan

@Kodakcompactdisc Жыл бұрын

I think you’re being generous to the russians with the 2 hours

@musiconabudget3712 Жыл бұрын

@@Kodakcompactdisc more likely the whole of Europe will be having nuclear winters in about 30nminutes

@mwtrolle Жыл бұрын

@@Kodakcompactdisc to be fair in case of a NATO vs Russia war, NATO would start with an air offensive, grinding down the Russian air defenses would probably take 2 weeks or so. Also more equipment and troops would have to be moved up to the war zone, that takes time.

@DarylSaunders737 Жыл бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 Neither could Russia.🤣🤣🤣🤣

@fishingstevie8830 Жыл бұрын

Good discussion folks A Scot from from the UK here Slava Ukrainii 💪 👍

@TommyTCGT Жыл бұрын

Slava Rossiya, from Siam.

@therabbitchannel2059 Жыл бұрын

These your guys? 2.bp.blogspot.com/-HCb_pFO9FUQ/VYoga3b0dyI/AAAAAAAAzD4/cCJpmbt04SU/s640/azov1.jpg

@timothyhoran9521 Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview

@markjennings2315 Жыл бұрын

A British army officer that’s actually called Rupert! Lol 😂 That’s like a British airways pilot being called Nigel!! Lol

@judithcampbell1705 Жыл бұрын

President Zelenskyy is the Churchill in spirit and determination and has the courage to match. Lucy Fisher is the best interviewer on topics. Thank you 💛

@SCRUT Жыл бұрын

@judith Zelensky is the new God. Insane suicidal world

@1jediwitch Жыл бұрын

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@SCRUT Жыл бұрын

@@1jediwitch Nice girl bot. UKR chose the freedom to be USA war base against RU. No glory, no heroes, just huge suffering and destruction to UKR people and hundreds of thousands of UKR troops KIA and wounded, all victims of suicidal project

@artemg9753 Жыл бұрын

I can’t remember - did Churchill and his wife also sell their property and withdraw money abroad?

@djuni24 Жыл бұрын

🤡

@hasselnttper3730 Жыл бұрын

This is so much better than all the 5 minute clips. DO MORE LONG FORMAT DISCUSSIONS!

@nikolaivdb Жыл бұрын

Great interview, well done Lucy & Times Radio

@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын

Do you mean time's radio the Ukrainian and nato propaganda machine.

@raulgarcia8705 Жыл бұрын

Why did Boris presured Zelensky to step away from negotiations allmost a year ago? Exactly

@Gumpmachine1 Жыл бұрын

We keep fighting with the philosophy of “just enough, just in time”. The mindset needs to be “more than enough, ahead of time”.

@aarhusnord Жыл бұрын

The war is not totally over before Russia has been made into a democratic, peaceful, civilian society with a leadership we can talk with. Russia has to leave its Empire ambitions and Soviet Union heritage. Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰

@joecool9739 Жыл бұрын

Thats not going to happen because Russians dont want democracy, they want an emperor/generalissimo/dictator

@aarhusnord Жыл бұрын

@@joecool9739 They have a very long history for that - but that will be what is needed, in case we don't want to see other wars coming out of Moscow. Just like the Germans were de-nazified after May 1945, the somewhat same process must happen in Russia.

@anthonymorris2276 Жыл бұрын

A magnificent ambition, but a very unrealistic one. In the last 1,000 years, Russia has enjoyed roughly 11 years of genuine democracy. It is hard to instil democratic instincts in a population which doesn’t even understand the concept.

@joecool9739 Жыл бұрын

@@anthonymorris2276 Russia hasnt existed for 1000 years

@aarhusnord Жыл бұрын

@@anthonymorris2276 An ambition, yes, but do we have real alternatives in case we do not want a new Putin coming ahead every generation, starting new wars? We can make Russia a pariah state, try to lock them in or out, but then the population will fall victims to new dictators saying they wish to "make Russia great again". Japan also seemed to me, to have an aggressive history and culture for hundreds, maybe thousands of years, up until 1945.

@kevinsmith5318 Жыл бұрын

An excellent and informative interview. A worthy hour plus spent. Well done!

@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын

It's they're opinion nothing else.

@mbtbd Жыл бұрын

What was "informative". Just more drivel of brainwashed propagandist. More talk does not necessarily mean more worthwhile information.

@warrenbrewin950 Жыл бұрын

Really excellent commentary by all.

@qui-si-sana Жыл бұрын

Ms. Fisher.. you are such an excellent interviewer. You really know how to employ your formidable intelligence, and it's so nice and refreshing to hear such beautifully spoken English for a change .

@PAAkhtar Жыл бұрын

Nice accent but most of what she says is fed to her by the MI6 propaganda dept. (which, as you know, exists). Ukr is losing big time but all we are told is that Russ is out of amunition, over and over again! China and Iran are not going to let Russ lose.

@jamesjarrett52 Жыл бұрын

Another sexist comment remarking on the fact that she is good at her job...as if you expected her not to be.

@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesjarrett52 why are you seeing sexism where there isn't any? Is it you that's sexist & you're filtering through your own biases?

@Kingcarparpeggio Жыл бұрын

@@PAAkhtar : Russian Bot alert.

@meighme8540 Жыл бұрын

One Year On! If the UK think that people are not engaged in this war then think again. It is "pivotal" that there is success, Russia needs to withdraw/lose this war otherwise the face of Europe will be changed forever. Europe must remain united and we need to RAMP up production, give Ukraine what it needs to do the job and succeed. Very interesting debate and I do agree - I do not want to have Russia any closer than they were in 2022 and at moment the thought of Russia gaining more ground is deeply worrying.

@MichaelBegnini Жыл бұрын

Russia is Europe’s natural ally

@bluecanary9417 Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelBegnini That claim seems to be wrong on so many levels…

@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын

I don't know anyone bothered about Ukraine infact you'd be surprised how many people actually support Russia.

@miskaffon Жыл бұрын

@@douglastaggart9360 Those in love with despots and war for the sake of genocide certainly give vocal support to the invasion and destruction of Ukraine. They do so at their peril; if allowed to continue those "allies" will find themselves instead "subjects".

@jimmccork Жыл бұрын

Great three way interview, and very delicately handled. Robertson impresses as a man who is able to rise far above petty party politics within the U.K..

@kirtap2601 Жыл бұрын

Very well done, Times Radio. Most interesting and informative. Thank you.

@martybreen6228 Жыл бұрын

Without doubt, THE BEST PANEL DISCUSSION I’ve seen on Ukraine since the start of the war. Brilliantly facilitated by Lucy Fisher and three outstanding highly qualified and insightful guests. Well done Times Radio. Big fan! 👍

@turboplazz Жыл бұрын

really ? Because they are giving you false hope ? Stop the war lick your wounds and move forward. This is stupidity .

@marievichaywood4098 Жыл бұрын

Yes good old propaganda is hard to ignore.

@catherineandpaulfuters2523 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your coverage 🇪🇺🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🇬🇧

@scotmorton195 Жыл бұрын

Most impressively informative interview and panel. Thank you!

@evabrunson8413 Жыл бұрын

Great interview…

@mchozen2958 Жыл бұрын

Great discussion. Thank you from Ukrainian Diaspora in Canada

@rookiediver Жыл бұрын

Highly impressive interviewer. Clearly knows her brief very well and fluently linking answers between panellists without ever seemingly looking at her notes.

@livingtribunal4110 Жыл бұрын

Mayybe she should be nominated for a gold star? 🤷‍♂

@jessehachey2732 Жыл бұрын

@@livingtribunal4110 *yawn* grow TF up 🙄

@jamesjarrett52 Жыл бұрын

Are you a bit of a sexist? You seem a bit surprised.

@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesjarrett52 given the recent calibre of journalists sexism is irrelevant to the surprise.

@vsiegel Жыл бұрын

@@jamesjarrett52 She is exceptionally good independent of gender.

@MrVomikron Жыл бұрын

Excellent questions by the moderator.

@simonliddell1897 Жыл бұрын

Very good piece of journalism.

@paulkroon4931 Жыл бұрын

Did anyone consider that China can now take advantage of Russians current economic and militairy weakness ?

@evolassunglasses4673 Жыл бұрын

They work together. Particularly with BRICS. The Ruble is higher than before the invasion.

@paulkroon4931 Жыл бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 And what about the new Silk Road running through Russias backyard, countries that become more and more difficult to control by Moscow are leaning more towards China now?

@din6675 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure it's all the Russian elites are thinking about. Before long they will be little more to China than what Belarus is to them.

@MichelleBlessing Жыл бұрын

China are coming for their land back!

@fatty3383 Жыл бұрын

I think that will come eventually.

@njm3211 Жыл бұрын

An eventual cease fire will only be advantageous to Russia. Ukraine and the Western allies must keep up unrelenting pressure until Putin is in someway deposed. Russia has set itself back economically for a generation. It is a pariah nation in Europe and the West. NATO and the EU have been strengthened.

@SCRUT Жыл бұрын

@NJM You just confirm and justify RU claims better than Putin's speeches

@njm3211 Жыл бұрын

@@SCRUT LOL

@therabbitchannel2059 Жыл бұрын

What planet are you from? EU going down the tubes. You might want to consider your sources of info. FYI Russia's trade surplus has doubled since the war began while EU economy is in shambles.

@srambrero Жыл бұрын

it will also be advantageous for thousands of people that wont die on both sides if you care about that kinda stuff

@hermanbester1751 Жыл бұрын

So the west want another zelensky puppet in russia and that is why putin must be deposed? If not the west will ruin russia economically. No wonder the russians hate the west.....

@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын

I was wetting myself laughing when the names were read out, in the British military high up officers are nicknamed Ruperts!

@jamesmorrison3641 Жыл бұрын

Could you tell us about the dealings you had with the Hollie Greig problem Lord George.

@dennisfoyle1 Жыл бұрын

After one year of debates, this one actually made sense. Thank you.

@TommyTCGT Жыл бұрын

US Col. Doug MacGrehor makes much more sense,, as does Moon of Alabama.

@ettan2007 Жыл бұрын

@@TommyTCGT 🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡

@gusrathore1524 Жыл бұрын

NATO build up in 2014, got vlads attention, enjoy celebrating the anniversary

@frederickrose3967 Жыл бұрын

I really hope that Charle's views are not representative of US leadership. A ( in my view) approach that gives Ukraine just enough resources to not lose but not enough to win so we can impose some manner of a settlement down the road is deeply short sighted, cynical and will cost thousands of Ukrainian lives needlessly. A Russia unbowed will always be waiting to pounce at the first chance. Ukraine needs to win, not simply not lose.

@elletuppen4844 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant discussion. Thank you

@PAAkhtar Жыл бұрын

it's a chat-show based on regurgitating MI6 propaganda.

@wynpencarreg7535 Жыл бұрын

Subscribed. Thank you.

@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын

Charles Kupchan, the American’s alternative talks about an end to the war that would amount to a Putin victory with Ukrainian territories. There’s no bringing the war to an end reasonably with Putin at the helm in Russia.

@albertodarla715 Жыл бұрын

He's a mediocre bureaucrat not understanding east europeans at all.

@jpdemer5 Жыл бұрын

There's a reason he's a FORMER member of the NSC.

@PAAkhtar Жыл бұрын

@@jpdemer5 Yes, he does not like war and killing enough.

@Mortablunt Жыл бұрын

Not willing to give the politicians the post hoc justifications to continue their failing schemes.

@garyturner5739 Жыл бұрын

Except if your in the camp of DonaldTrump.

@hrvojesvetec3058 Жыл бұрын

Only way to end this sooner than later is to speed up and boost up the military support..

@tonupharry Жыл бұрын

Yes if we provide weapons

@alteredbeast7145 Жыл бұрын

@stv1 of course they can. The mujihadeen did it with less

@utternonsenseproductions2415 Жыл бұрын

@nanashi1253 Жыл бұрын

Charles cautiously admits Ukraine's defeat. Are Ukranian soldies still fighting? I heard most of them have been destroyed by now, and foreign soldiers (like Poles) are fighting for Ukraine now.

@jamesheath7596 Жыл бұрын

That’s not going to happen nato has admitted that they are running out.

@damienwatson9102 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a 1 sided panel. Doing a great job

@chocksaway100 Жыл бұрын

Yep business as usual.

@TheMrCougarful Жыл бұрын

Great list of guests, excellent interview.

@orcahang21 Жыл бұрын

God 💪 Bless 👊 Ukraine 🇺🇦!

@MrThartofwar Жыл бұрын

Sorry god don’t support terrorist :)

@snippe1346 Жыл бұрын

Ukrane soldiers The heroes of this war they’ve inspired the whole world for they bravery and resilience✊💪👍🇺🇦

@TommyTCGT Жыл бұрын

Imaginary deities cannot bless, however much the simple minded babble into the ether..

@Furious703 Жыл бұрын

God left long ago this dump.

@CjrRbt Жыл бұрын

Ukrainians are related to Russians, they also speak Russian! Not to mention that the resources on that territory are not used for their well-being, but are used for the benefit of those in the West. There is nothing to defend! Do you want peace? Then it's simple: Don't fight! You have nothing to fight for! The media washes people brains and makes them hate each other!

@andyhurrell Жыл бұрын

17:20 What's the difference between Ukraine "not being able to fully reclaim territorial sovereignity" and Ukraine "losing"? Charles Kupchan seems to be hedging his bets. These "experts" should make their minds up whether or not they believe in the possibility and/or desirability of a Ukrainian victory. Surely, a Ukrainian victory means the defeat militarily of the Russian invader. Slava Ukraine!

@1Eagler Жыл бұрын

Better be alive with one leg.

@oconnor6456 Жыл бұрын

Everyone knows Ukraine is not capable of doing it no matter how wet you get about that thought

@andyhurrell Жыл бұрын

@@oconnor6456 It must surely be way past your bedtime. Does your mum know what you get up to online?

@IDNeon357 Жыл бұрын

Russia is winning

@jockmoron Жыл бұрын

Ukraine "lost" the moment Russia invaded. The neocons in the US actually wanted this war, and they couldn't give a flying f....k for the people in Ukraine.

@drunkendrew217 Жыл бұрын

really enjoyable and informative

@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын

It's they're opinion nothing else. Why are people like you so guilable.

@cariad4297 9 ай бұрын

Truly excellent and informative content

@sassulusmagnus Жыл бұрын

The Ukrainians might have been able to take better advantage of winter conditions if the Western nations hadn't taken so long to decide to send tanks. Let's hope the transfer of aircraft proceeds without further delay.

@howiescott5865 Жыл бұрын

A-10's and F-16's

@Valhura77 Жыл бұрын

@@howiescott5865 Yes send more pointless weapons, the Ukrainians had an airforce the Russians have pretty good AA systems. A-10 and F16s are only effective against farmers in Afghanistan but unlike you the US already knows this and wont send them just to be shot down.

@pinkkennedy1615 Жыл бұрын

Tanks have been unsuccessful in Ukraine targeted by Drones if used in open , and how would they fare in Wet conditions as Western Tanks are twice the weight and difficult to maintain

@mandytrickett1106 Жыл бұрын

Our goverment played you to keep themselves ritch your a joke

@mandytrickett1106 Жыл бұрын

Get heads of state in room have fist fight stop killing your people's who pay your wages to give there lives for you to be ritch live like kings wake up please

@darv011 Жыл бұрын

Zelensky s strength showed from the very start when he said, I don't need a ticket out, but weapons! In stark contrast to the Afghan president who took the 1st flight out. Bear in mind Zelensky was facing what was considered the 3rd strongest army in the world, not the Taliban!!

@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын

Totally different situations, Putin attacks with visible & identifiable armies, you have no idea who is in the Taliban. Walk down any busy street in Afghanistan & you will be able to identify less than half the Taliban, similarly your neighbours & your staff cannot be 100% trusted.

@Valhura77 Жыл бұрын

In that Russia never attempted to take Kiev, I guarantee you if their was even a 1% chance to Kiev would be assaulted that Rat would be on a one way flight to Israel or his Florida house.

@dan_taninecz_geopol Жыл бұрын

Poland's ascension in NATO is an under discussed outcome of this war. As time goes by this may be seen as the emergence of a much more important Poland back onto the European geopolitical stage.

@joelundrigan6752 Жыл бұрын

Tks…what the world needs and contemplate!

@seanlindsay7610 Жыл бұрын

All these people that keep saying there needs to be a coversation about how to end this war just gives putin and his cronies the belief that they can get what they want and the west is becoming sick of this war. Which in the end makes putin win. Just send what ukraine are asking for and they will end this war on their terms.

@gw10758 Жыл бұрын

Sending more armor will not bode well for Ukraine. Russia controls the airspace and the ISR batllespace. All the west has done is to ADD more Ukrainian deaths to their quest to expand NATO.

@lindseyreese1124 Жыл бұрын

We learned enough about how weak their army is now. The death and destruction should stop for now. Getting China involved would cinch it. NATO shouldn't be too worried about Russian expansion with the army they have now. Pretty embarrassing!!

@gw10758 Жыл бұрын

@@lindseyreese1124 All we have done is to force Russia to begin building up an army again to protect itself against the 'west'. Their current war machine is churning out hundreds of thousands of rounds of small arms ammo each day now. The world is playing right into the globalists hands by promoting the conflict. Such a shame.

@txup92g33 Жыл бұрын

Not gonna happen. The USA is 📈 by supplying Ukraine with weapons of war. Business is booming. No need to end it now

@hrvojesvetec3058 Жыл бұрын

We MUST send Ukraine lot more tanks,long range rockets,ammunition etc..100% sure they can push thru russian lines and push them out of most of their land,they just need the right equipment to do so

@Mike-lt6sj Жыл бұрын

This war will end with no Ukrainian soldiers left and foreign intervention in an incremental escalation, and possibly a nuclear attack.

@bhubankumarchhetri3311 Жыл бұрын

You don’t have enough ammunition for own , how can you send to ukraine more ammunition?? Can you sell your house ???😂😂

@hrvojesvetec3058 Жыл бұрын

@@bhubankumarchhetri3311 BS of course therers enough but sure stockpiles gets smaller so the industri must get to work now and make sure theres enough..if we want it to be enough it WILL be enough

@SCRUT Жыл бұрын

@Hrvoje Are you so bored to incite war, war war? UKR is destroyed. Do you need more destruction?

@onemustlivefree Жыл бұрын

@@bhubankumarchhetri3311- with all the countries supporting Ukraine, they'll get what they need. "He who laughs last, laughs best," the joke will be on you. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Slava Ukraini. 💙💛

@marisadallavalle393 Жыл бұрын

Superb interview, thank you.

@JeffLines Жыл бұрын

Terrific interview!

@chuckkottke Жыл бұрын

A Marshall Plan for European Recovery helped Europe rebuild after the war from 1948-51, from strategic thinking to implementing policies and programs aimed at rebuilding Europe. If well planned, coordinated, and implemented, Ukraine could be rebuilt with great success, and yes, the frozen Russian assets should be seized and used to help pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine, although the cost could exceed 1 billion Euros by some estimates.

@4wdflying Жыл бұрын

Far more than €1billion could be more like 100x that already

@gha9543 Жыл бұрын

@@4wdflying WW3 has just began and destructions of occupied terrorities has only just begun. We were promise a trilogy and not a trailer. Lets sit tight and camera is rolling for "Emphire strikes Back " I believe Bollywood has a guest appearance last year.

@AAB463 Жыл бұрын

Russia has to be demilitarized or preferably democratized first or they will continue to return

@juskahusk2247 Жыл бұрын

The perfect insult to Putin. He would see Ukraine fully rebuilt with shining skyscrapers and a thriving economy while the Kremlin crumbles around him and rainwater drips on his head because they don't have enough roubles to pay for repairs.

@brucekliewer2623 Жыл бұрын

@@4wdflyingyes. But there will be full employment to rebuild Ukraine. Their economy will boom after the war. Ukraine also needs to tap into the oil and gas under the DONBASS.

@helenswan705 Жыл бұрын

I agree with all the comments on here. what impressed me? Yes the interviewer, most intelligent and respectful. But also how those experienced men actually paid attention to each other! it was clearly visible, especially of course George and Rupert who were on screen together. Good to see.

@straighttalking2090 Жыл бұрын

Good, in depth conversation from those in a good position to know. Nice to get this online. The BBC can shove their tv licence.

@roytetwart Жыл бұрын

I must say, that was one of the most informative discussions I have ever had the privilege of witnessing. People speaking common sense from all angles. Quite remarkable in this day of age.

@pyroboobysmith359 Жыл бұрын

All angles? As long as you hate Russia.

@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын

It can't be a discussion can it because no one was putting the Russian points of view across waa there

@powerjets3512 Жыл бұрын

For Ukraine to be independent and viable, it needs southern coastal ports for import and export. Didn't hear this basic fact.

@blueberry-ri7eb Жыл бұрын

That is one main direction it appears for Putin to control all the ports.

@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын

it was mentioned though, in the context of Ukraine being Europe's breadbasket.

@powerjets3512 Жыл бұрын

@@alanhat5252 It is not just Europe's breadbasket as we know. It will have to sell the grains and anything else to Russia for it to export or pay transit fees equivalent to the gas ones. An economic stranglehold on a destroyed country.

@Zenfix1 Жыл бұрын

"Love is an energy, love is a mystery, love is meant to be true. Love is a part of me, love is the heart of me, love is the best thing we do." ~ Ashlee Simpson

@TOMAS-lh4er Жыл бұрын

Putin is going to declare that he is granting Ukraine a short cease-fire, one last chance to agree to his wanting Crimea and such, before he orders his army to destroy Ukraine, But Ukraine will not cease firing again And the world will know that Putins army is done, it cant actually go on and can be defeated and forced out of Ukraine,

@leelagoswami9010 Жыл бұрын

Excellent discussion!

@Keithlfpieterse Жыл бұрын

Thanks to all the participants for an excellent panel discussion which has given me food for thought. May the war end sooner rather than later.

@Inkkari9 Жыл бұрын

Evaluation of Russia - Martti J Kari Ex intelligence colonel explaining Russian psyche

@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын

@@Inkkari9 ok, that's one opinion, do you have others?

@Inkkari9 Жыл бұрын

@@alanhat5252 what do you mean?

@ninemoonplanet Жыл бұрын

@Alan Hat two Russian people on KZfaq both know Putin very well and the people in Russia because they were born, lived in Russia for decades. "Inside Russia", Konstantin, and Vlad Vexler. Try watching them to gain a lot of insight into the Russian people.

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 Жыл бұрын

Repent to Jesus Christ “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ hg

@AimEmery Жыл бұрын

Wow what high level guests!

@surfingonmars8979 Жыл бұрын

“The key lesson is ‘don’t believe Vladimir Putin.’” - Lord George Robertson - gee, no kidding, Georgie……

@garyturner5739 Жыл бұрын

George is little bit of an apologist for war criminal dictactor Putin. The point of stopping this war as soon as possible is the real danger of escaulation happening. It will take only a missile to hit Poland or another nation ground the war zone, to start things off. This Ukraine War is the Cuba Missile Crisis for 21st century.

@khiem1939 Жыл бұрын

For those who state that the Ukraine should relinquish part of their Nation to Russia, what PART of THEIR NATION'S would they be willing to give to Russia?

@sylviahutchison5203 Жыл бұрын

Agree

@onemustlivefree Жыл бұрын

ruZZia should get nothing. And furthermore, it should be kicked back to its 2014 border. Slava Ukraini. 💙💛

@airhabairhab Жыл бұрын

Your house!

@1man1bike1road Жыл бұрын

Ukraine at the end of the cold war accepted having less land than they had before soviet times but they will give no more land again

@eskilolsen3783 Жыл бұрын

Charles Kupchan could offer Alaska in exchange for russians leaving the Ukrainian borders as they were in 2013.

@richardjohnson3463 Жыл бұрын

Excellent and fascinating interview, thank you

@santacruzman Жыл бұрын

Good God, does anyone have a time stamp for when this video gets to the point?

@NikosKatsikanis Жыл бұрын

wow, well-done getting in-person guests like these

@yazminrobinson1184 Жыл бұрын

You are delusional.

@NikosKatsikanis Жыл бұрын

@@yazminrobinson1184 you are in a pit of Russian trolling 💩 😆

@peterclarke3020 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think that we should be rewarding Russia by allowing them to take chunks of Ukraine. That might happen, if we fail to adequately equip Ukraine to win this war. This ‘drip feed’ by the west, is not the right strategy - they should be upping production of ammunition and weapons supply to Ukraine, to maximise Ukraine’s chances of winning. If we fail to do that, I think that Russia will simply come back for more in a few years time. As they always do.

@iancormie9916 Жыл бұрын

True but I would suggest refreshing the statement I.e. rather than chances of winning I would suggest that arming Ukraine to eliminate any possibility of their losing might be a better way of putting it.

@jeanneknight4791 Жыл бұрын

Thank you,Lucy Fisher. This was an absolutely fantastic group of pannelists.

@bo45 10 ай бұрын

That would be unexceptionable.The criminal cowards must be pushed out of Ukraine . Before any talks an even be hinted at.

@Kingcarparpeggio Жыл бұрын

Excellent discussion with knowledgeable guests. Can anyone here in UK imagine this being chaired by the likes of Piers Morgan, Julia Hartley-Brewer, Mike Graham, Richard Madeley or worse still Kay Burley 😱.

@TheMalcolmPowder Жыл бұрын

Charles Kupchan should just shut up. There is no deal to be had with Putin.

@nifralo2752 Жыл бұрын

27:09 "close to being a dicator " He already is one. Russian elections are no different from those in Syria Iran North Korea Cameroon etc

@TommyTCGT Жыл бұрын

Keeping in mind that.. US ILLEGALLY invaded 27 countries since WW2, murdering nearly 2M civvies.

@turboplazz Жыл бұрын

lol go educate yourself on the democratic party strategies of the most recent election in the USA before you start talking about foreign elections.

@nifralo2752 Жыл бұрын

@@turboplazz I'm Scottish, what is it with Russian trolls ? Do you you guys think only Russia America and Ukraine exist?

@nifralo2752 Жыл бұрын

@@TommyTCGT which is less than the number Russia invaded. Estonia Latvia Lithuania Poland Romania Hungary Czechsolvakia Khazakstan Tajikistan Iran Azerbaijan Armenia Georgia Siberia Uzbekistan Mongolia China Finland. Plus in the west famines stopped being a thing 200 years ago. You had famines AFTER the 2nd world war.

@jdelorenzod2725 Жыл бұрын

@@turboplazz The USA has a different system. They call themselves a "democracy" but it is a defacto Jewish oligarchy. They are under total Jew control.

@ronmorrison1964 Жыл бұрын

Time is of the essence!!

@johnandreu9115 Жыл бұрын

So is the goal to win the war or to achieve a stalemate? None of the military experts I know consider a stalemate to be a desirable result. But it would explain why everyone is dragging their feet with the weapons.

@colinwatts578 Жыл бұрын

Possibly one of the most balanced, rational, practical and educational interviews so far on the war in Ukraine. As just another armchair observer I recommend this stand interview to others.

@tonupharry Жыл бұрын

Yes but there can be only one outcome for lasting world peace . Ruzzian capitulation

@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын

Where waa the Russian contribution wasn't any si how can it ve balanced

@agateplanet Жыл бұрын

@@douglastaggart9360 The Russian contribution was the illegal invasion of Ukraine. Have a look @ The Budapest Memorandum that Russia signed. This isn't complicated. You seem to be producing a lot of fragmentary and incorrect opinions here. Guess you are a russian troll. I pity you, almost. Slava 💛💙

@brianfreeman8290 Жыл бұрын

30.30 'Our front line is not the white cliffs of Dover . . .' So true.

@janewilkin1984 Жыл бұрын

They were in Iraq and Afghanistan

@PAAkhtar Жыл бұрын

LOL.......where is it then, surely not Iraq/Afghanistan ? Some people never learn.

@Sticky-gp2yh Жыл бұрын

Wow, to listen to 4 intelligent people. Never heard the words "like" "literally" once and no annoying positive inflections at the end of sentences which is so grating.

@jobl5505 Жыл бұрын

What about implementing the Minsk agreement, should we have done that ?

@govinda102000 Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview. Worth the hour.

@PAAkhtar Жыл бұрын

It's a chat-show with MI6 regurgitated propaganda.

@agateplanet Жыл бұрын

@@PAAkhtar Slava 💛💙

@tserica Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's going to be a strategic defeat for Russia unless they lose, and have to give back all Ukrainian territory. If they get an inch of territory, it will function as a win for them.

@jennyvanwyk4796 10 ай бұрын

I love times radio such good talks

@SimDeck Жыл бұрын

I'm going to say it. Lucy Fisher is not only highly intelligent and sharp she is just drop-dead gorgeuos.

@lawandorder2024 Жыл бұрын

Very defeatist conversation. No compromise.

@evolassunglasses4673 Жыл бұрын

The NeoCons will fight to the last Ukrainian. They destroyed Iraq Syria Libya Afghanistan and will end up destroying Ukraine. They should never ever of backed the coup against the ELECTED government of Ukraine 8 years ago that started this nightmare off

@Marvin-dg8vj Жыл бұрын

Not enough ammunition and hi tech weapons. Nothing we can do in the short or medium run.

@mwtrolle Жыл бұрын

@@Marvin-dg8vj not really true, a lot we can do. Send different kinds of weapons. We got lots of fighter jets and longer range missiles, if it get critical then send those. Also the US have got lots of fragmentation shells for the 155mm but hey are more efficient so will need less of them. The production of 155mm in the US have already been almost quadruple from before the war, and by the end of this year it will be more then doubled again. EU are working to expand production of shells as well. There are lots of old stuff being refurbished and upgraded, it might not all get to be too if the line, but it’s more then up for the task. Much of it is better then what Russia started the war with, and the average level of Russias weapons keep falling as their production, refurbishment, and repair facilities simply can’t keep up.

@flipflopski2951 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the guy says "Ukraine doesn't know how to define winning"... Well, they sure do and it's very public knowledge... Pre 2014 borders.

@peetky8645 Жыл бұрын

lucy fisher is great

@pinkkennedy1615 Жыл бұрын

When US and EU get fed up.of paying for it , or Western people vote them out .

@Hawkeye4040 Жыл бұрын

War is old men talking and young men dying.

@samconway2326 Жыл бұрын

The whole of Europe needs to invest in there military. Certainly the British need a lot more troops.

@evolassunglasses4673 Жыл бұрын

This is not our war. We can't even stop the boats from France.

@jimjoelliejack Жыл бұрын

Are you kidding! It most certainly is our war. This evil needs bringing to an end.

@LordOfLight Жыл бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 This is our war, and we have no choice. We either fight it at arms length through Ukraine, or we do it later and at much greater cost. It's only 75 years since WWII ended and people like yourself have already forgotten its lessons.