This is one of the more horrific stories I have heard from Shawn's interviews, glad you manage to get through it
@Willbatross_5 жыл бұрын
This is honestly horrific, thank you for posting this Shaun, gonna watch the whole podcast later
@angelamillar99505 жыл бұрын
My friend has just came out of prison in scotland & this still happens
@dannymiller71874 жыл бұрын
It’s so fucked up that human being are put through this. The fucking guards are the most sadistic fucking disgusting creatures in the world. I hope the people that did this to him are in jail themselves.
@torrace125 жыл бұрын
Its the best prison inmate interview i have seen That the interviewer himself have been to prison makes the interview very good
@aclementine38545 жыл бұрын
Bruh I live in Aylesbury and I didn't even know this was happening! Wtf?!
@xnthrax82515 жыл бұрын
It's Aylesbury it really can't be a big surprise! XD
@Zoocsgo5 жыл бұрын
sounds bs tbh
@charliecollie14985 жыл бұрын
Aylesbury is fucked
@j_gibbon5 жыл бұрын
I live in Leeds and didn't know armley had the highest suicide rate of all prisons...
@tommydshelby53115 жыл бұрын
This happened 15/20 years ago. It won't be this bad now, nowhere near
@mikenfcnorth5 жыл бұрын
You should do videos on Aaron Hernandez the american football player who killed himself in jail.
@noedonis6665 жыл бұрын
Hey Shaun did you ever win a fight in prison?
@Slendermən5 жыл бұрын
plz answer Shaun
@user-rw8rc3yp9d5 жыл бұрын
no he got his shit smashed in each time
@MrTheBassline5 жыл бұрын
As long as you showed heart, and fought the hardest you could even if you got the fuck smashed out of you, that was good enough. Which is probably what happened to Shaun.
@anyexpat5 жыл бұрын
I think he won his fights by avoiding them, the best way to win them!
@Gblonkers5 жыл бұрын
TheOriginal GGHarasser in prison?
@Qwepzy5 жыл бұрын
All these bald people in prison
@scottwhiting14684 жыл бұрын
I listened to this podcast episode today and It was so interesting. Gruesome and frightening but interesting. What a well spoken and honest account of a tough life. This guy should talk to troubled youth or at schools for young kids to try to show them the real side of how tough life can be. He has a bit of a gift for not dramatising his experience but just telling it how it is.
@brandentempelmeyer47855 жыл бұрын
There has been several psychological studies done that have proven that when somebody is put in a position of power like a corrections officer they typically tend to turn towards abusing that power in fact the study had to be shut down because of just how badly they were abusing their power
@georgy-16355 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think you’re talking about Zimbardo’s prison experiment (lots of footage on KZfaq)? Scary stuff really
@brandentempelmeyer47855 жыл бұрын
There are many experiments (more than Just 1)
@seanstuchbury15125 жыл бұрын
this is so close to my area, so interesting dude keep it up
@snowy26195 жыл бұрын
Damn he is a good story teller
@felixc37195 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video talking about what it was like to finally get out and come back to England and the weeks surrounding?
@mariacheung6475 жыл бұрын
I heard this on your podcast couple of weeks ago, nice to see a face to a voice. I wish him best of luck, he seems a very smart guy and strong minded. I hope he has the best support he can get.
@polkadot2404 жыл бұрын
Reminder..this happened in a free country? not North Korea...or Iran or Saudi Arabia..here in UK is where it happened...we are not sophisticated, civilised, decent or even humane.
@trashtreasure43275 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is, there are so many similarities in the mental health system in the UK. A family member had requested the gym and they to were ignored and only dealt with when they could be bothered. The issue is with staffing and does boil down to the governments neglect of the public services. Extremely worrying watching the UK falling apart at the seams. We should rehabilitate this young men who obviously have had a lack of role models and guidance not make them so hurt by society they will continue to offend. Fair play for talking out x
@citrusjelly90695 жыл бұрын
I love your videos Shaun! Keep them coming.
@danieldyszkant32455 жыл бұрын
When’s the Jamie Morgan Kane video coming out?
@iluvgtasan5 жыл бұрын
You need so many security and background checks to be in the security industry. Doesn't make sense.
@nickcanova1003 Жыл бұрын
As somebody who’s experienced solitary confinement for an extended period of time I have to say this is what separates the sting minded folks from the weak minded . No disrespect however a person who is a man capable of being a leader or even a man of extreme wisdom you realize that being alone in a box is not a big deal at all , hell at this point in my life I tend to prefer it . Maybe this is due to being subjected to this as before I would have never agreed to that degree of isolation however I will never truly know for sure but it’s definitely connected. What I’m saying is be prepared mentally for whatever comes your way as far as prison , if your there you should be ok with the simple physical part of it fight and win or lose and get used to not eating proper on a regular basis unless you have a hustle or crew . And first and foremost if put in the hole or solitary either get as many books as possible and read in between exercises as you will have to parent yourself to burn calories unnecessarily but to reduce stress and become tired and stay fit and most important keep a schedule . Then stay in a position physically as you don’t look like a junkie or a nutter. Also doing this keeps you sane , most people let there own selves destroy themselves as they weren’t brought up in conditions that required to be mentally strong, so these guys that should be the best survivors have the best chances of failure. Remember that these guards C O’s whatever are the absolute scum of the earth for a reason and enjoy there lives because there complete scum . We as inmates when short times should take advantage of this fact and bring reality to these cowards as they will frequent bars pubs grocery stores convenience stores whatever but fact is there not smart and easily tracked . Let your imagination take part from there , when they start to realize that prisoners are not caged animals to never be released and they as guards have no special privileges on the streets maybe they will think twice about how they treat people . If not they can at least get lumped up along with there partners on a regular and have an actual reason to be such assholes .
@MrTomwazere5 жыл бұрын
Horrendous. Just being objective though, he talked about breaking at least three rules - littering, using emergency bell and using drugs. I don’t think he helped himself...
@Dmc8415 жыл бұрын
Aylesbury was ruthless when i was there. Whole wing smash ups on a regular basis, rife with drugs and weapons.
@nwk-wt3ty5 жыл бұрын
Can I ask how recent we are talking? Have a good day mate - Scottish here.
@Jen_K4 жыл бұрын
In medical terms, it's called failure to thrive. When you're will to live has been broken. It's usually seen with long term spouses, when 1 passes, the other is shortly behind. Lack of love, purpose and hope is terribly sad. Failure to Thrive is a heartbreaking way to pass.
@Daniel_Boxing_UK5 жыл бұрын
Listening to your experiences in jail, I’ve started to think prison rules have made it to ordinary civi life. Considering all the knife crime to date and why this is happening.
@jeetsohpal5575 жыл бұрын
Shaun can you get some Asian guys on. Would like to hear experiences of Muslim, Sikh or Hindu guys.
@Slypee5 жыл бұрын
Great as always
@ged720005 жыл бұрын
One minute in winter there's no window just bars and it's freezing. Then he says in summer it's really hot and there's no gaps in the window to get fresh air.
@mynameismyname68305 жыл бұрын
Gerard Murray this guy is a liar, I was in Aylesbury this guy is making it up as he goes along. I also done time in that very same cell he says he was in. He is deluded
@tommydshelby53115 жыл бұрын
What's the time stamp? I didn't hear him say about the summer?
@WestSideScooters5 жыл бұрын
That was in solatery
@mattcarter72755 жыл бұрын
Did you see today an ex prisoner who wrongfully did 24 years for murder, got refused compensation
@Powersnufkin5 жыл бұрын
Someone ought to do something about these people
@tommydshelby53115 жыл бұрын
I was friends with a bloke called Barri White he did about 7 years for murdering his misses then the BBC did a documentary about it and found new evidence, he got released and given a big lump sum and about £40k a year. Poor cunt ended up on crack and herion, I haven't heard about him for a couple years hopefully he's all good now.
@tommydshelby53115 жыл бұрын
Matt what country was that in?
@mattcarter72755 жыл бұрын
@@tommydshelby5311 UK
@Mikelectric5 жыл бұрын
Can you find these gaurds? Do u ever get any of their identities? What stops u seeking them out and killing them?
@fromchopin5 жыл бұрын
Mikey for real, they’re the ones who need to be locked up.
@joelhall51245 жыл бұрын
Although conditions have changed, it's still an understaffed prison and inmates attending Stoke Mandeville Hospital A&E is still as regular as clockwork.
@alexeldridge19004 жыл бұрын
This embodies the evil that the system and most people possess within them You can tell he's telling the truth Their children ! Young men ! what kind of people seek out these jobs ?? Mankind is so broken Not just in this country but around the globe All on different scales
@trollaccount77265 жыл бұрын
Hey Shaun what do u think of the footage of inmates in that Brooklyn jail that had no heat and the plumbing was fucked during frigid temps last week? U gotta make a video about that or the mistreatment of prisoners period.
@opticalecho1195 жыл бұрын
The British government is so dystopian
@shaggyman58115 жыл бұрын
LOL compared to what ? throwing kids into rykers island?
@TheDropdeadZed5 жыл бұрын
I agree but if you're from the US I hope you have the same view of your own government because they're just as bad, if not much worse.
@alexduke68695 жыл бұрын
If these things happened you would sue the prison ,i find it hard to believe all this could happen to one person.
@CCCP-UK5 жыл бұрын
He chats so much rubbish. That’s not how Aylesbury is like one bit 😂 the first lie he says is that he got 2 weeks losses off the PO now know as the custodial manager that’s a blatant lie because the maximum they could is 3 days losses anything else you have to be put in front of the governor. Second yes it is freezing but the only way he’d of been in a cell with broken windows is if he had broken them himself and then he’d of been put in a different cell after probably a day maybe 2 at the most. I’m questioning everything he says as blatant bullshit
@CCCP-UK5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the officers putting bets on. I’ve seen this myself and it’s was published in newspapers HMP Nottingham is one prison that did
@CCCP-UK5 жыл бұрын
Pal have you even ever been to a UK prison in the last 10 years? By the sounds of it he’s not been in prison in the past 10 years. Don’t always believe what you Read in a news paper especially from the mirror 😒 CM’s don’t even give out punishments anymore yes a SO can put you on a basic regime for 14 days but that’s completely different to getting losses off a CM. And why send me links to papers that are on about beating inmates up not once did I say this wasn’t true I’ve seen it before myself the UK prison system is on its arse and most prions are now like a jungle. And why go on about PSO’s and PSI’s for cans you show me the psi/psi that states CM’s cans give you losses? Because I think you will find outs they haven’t been able to do this for years. Owe and before I go no officer gets a PSO/PSI handbook I think you was supposed to say POA handbook see your another person who knows fuck all about uk prisons except from what you read in a newspaper or see on the tv go get a few years under your belt and come back to have your say 🙄
@alexias19055 жыл бұрын
Shaun have you thought about get some CAD models made up for the prisons you talk about?
@richardpayne8157 Жыл бұрын
Mate , brings back memories , I was there in 1999 doing an 11😊
@mynameismyname68305 жыл бұрын
I was in Aylesbury after watching the last video, I can’t take this guy serious he is a liar. This dude is telling his story from a exaggerated victims point of view. I was in B2 -13 in 2007. Mate their is not a prison in England what has windows with no glass just bars not only would prisoners die from hyperthermia prisoners would be hanging themselfs .tHen he said in summer the cell had no windows and then said he use to throw his rubbish out side the window. He said the wings where separated by race , mate all the prisoners use to mix, they where more or less seperated up by what area you are from.
@mynameismyname68305 жыл бұрын
Dylan Morgan again he is telling his story from a warped view. He said on the other video that a wing was white and travellers and that b wing was the black wing. Then he said the wings were mixed and that the Muslims used to chill in the middle of the yard. This guy makes it up as he goes along. Again I was in Aylesbury for three years and went to a, b and e wing.
@henrygarnett28795 жыл бұрын
dunno wot makes you think there are no glass in the windows ,thats bollocks ,unless you been in every prison in England,,you sound like a screw, lol dude!!!wtf
@Aerojet015 жыл бұрын
@@henrygarnett2879 I agree with Mr Mobbin. Do you think the prison service would risk being sued? In the winter, the prisoners would die from hypothermia due to windows without glass. Apart from violence from other inmates, prisons in Britain are like holiday camps. I'm surprised the number of people in the comment section believe this guy word for word.
@mynameismyname68305 жыл бұрын
Henry Garnett why don’t you read back what I said to yourself out loud.
@Brawling_Style5 жыл бұрын
You've clearly never been in prison , especially Aylesbury , if there's no prisons that have just bars how are the drones flying drugs into cells to the point where they'll reach out there cell window and grab the stash lmao.....only lier here son is you , Aylesbury is a jungle shit is rough , I've been to Forrest bank 3 times not once seen a white and black lad celled up together , you chat shit just a little goon behind a computer searching wings in Aylesbury to make your story seem legit , victim
@Qwepzy5 жыл бұрын
Damn I work in Feltham
@lodash_95 жыл бұрын
You can always make a micro impact by rating the prison on google and linking this video.
@Gblonkers5 жыл бұрын
Christoph Bühler yeah and put a review on tripadvisor
@oriordan515 жыл бұрын
that place is hell .back in the late 90s people have no idea what go on there .if your black even worse the officers they are so racist on rail
@henrygarnett28795 жыл бұрын
you should watch the uploads on the Scottish long term prisoner Johnny Boy Steel, on a blanket protest,who spent years in solitary
@johncenator31465 жыл бұрын
Sounds worse than most us jails lol
@JeffBilkins5 жыл бұрын
This is part of the longer Pepsi video.
@dominictaylor81485 жыл бұрын
Kinda sounds like it was brought on yourself?
@gazsmith28795 жыл бұрын
Shocking story's.. please do a Charles Bronson vid Shaun.. his story needs telling..
@susanmanning7734 жыл бұрын
Non- humans do not treat each other near as bad humans as abuse each other. We should take lessons from them
@robertsteele23745 жыл бұрын
Have you got any good stories of screws or cops getting attacked or killed. If so can you tell them please.
@tommydshelby53115 жыл бұрын
Yeah but how long ago was this. 20 years?
@peterpedant5 жыл бұрын
This is just awful to hear. So barbaric. The prison system should operate more like a holiday camp but with locked doors & bars on the windows. That would surely deter any would-be criminals.
@TheDropdeadZed5 жыл бұрын
@ThatCrazy Drunk He's being sarcastic, and is a dumbarse.
@magicmank68935 жыл бұрын
If you can't do the time don't do the crime !
@MrOMYSTARZ5 жыл бұрын
Ready to learn!
@Brawling_Style5 жыл бұрын
If you can't fight don't play pool , simple
@torrace125 жыл бұрын
Prisoners in UK must be very very good people because no one of the prison guards have been found and killed by ex prisoners it would have been very easy, they are low waged and live nearby they arnt hidden away some where im very surprised that nobody have killed a few when he got out, it would be to expect with this amount of torture
@dadlovesyounevaehandresfra51545 жыл бұрын
The question is, did he ever lose!?!💪😎
@michaelallen13965 жыл бұрын
Flip a coin- McDonald's or prison guard...guards get benefits....
@Daniel_Boxing_UK5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to go to prison, to expose the failings of the prisons system. Thank god you did and paid for your crime, but your now more than making up for it with your expose of life in prison. I’m hooked and can sympathise with the unfairness of our incompetent authorities. Well done Shane, sometimes things happen for a reason.
@shaymoose45385 жыл бұрын
Excellent content cheers
@thomaswood40885 жыл бұрын
What is the point of the prison system again? Isn't it supposed to rehabilitate people rather than compound their problems and make them even worse or make them kill themselves???
@thehypest61185 жыл бұрын
we're still centuries away from having an effective rehabilitation system here I'm the UK, we still treat drug addicts as criminals and criminals as inhuman scum who don't deserve to be listened to or helped
@geordiefonejerker5 жыл бұрын
so they should be freezing. teach them a lesson
@donnysanner3425 жыл бұрын
Shit like that makes a man want to do a little bit hunting......
@kevinseward23955 жыл бұрын
Watch this on 1.5x speed trust me
@sylvelvholm27393 жыл бұрын
Why doesent this screwes get smashed or wacked. The prisoners are getting out after a time.
@Darren-ot2zi5 жыл бұрын
He had rip on his forehead with a cross not a nazi sign. And he was 17-18 not 15
@withwilk74735 жыл бұрын
Well ultimately your inner anger and turmoil that makes you do something you shouldn't, like throw a milk bottle out the window is your own fault... kinda seems like this guy never really took any responsibility for his actions. Alot of criminals are the same. But that's why they end up there anyways... Maybe abide by the rules and you won't get fucked about? That goes for inside and outside prison.
@criss49462 жыл бұрын
What a load of old rubbish
@nicklaspetersen92495 жыл бұрын
DAMM -picks always travle in packs🐷🐽
@lovelife-he3gw5 жыл бұрын
this interview gave me chills ,the young man who was killed at the shithole Feltham was a friend to us and a Muslim ,his name was Ziad and the national front scumbag killed him ,trust me Ziad was not a fighter , he was a child and he died a horrible death ,my son brought the newspaper home and it was front page news ,Ziad [RIP] he could have been saved 100 per cent but this shithole feltham needs to be torn down brick by brick,the screws are accountable and the govener best thing to do is to inform the goveners ,chairman of the board ect ,we have had people moved to other prisons for there safety [ we say we believe the prisoners life is at risk and since the govener is responsable for ALL PRISONERS ---- we then put it on the guv and inform the govt ,secretery of state ,minister of justice ect ,this will blow some peoples minds but check out a Habeas corpus , and LEGAL NAME FRAUD -- the ALL CAPS NAME it is so bad what they are getting away with , RIP Ziad , thankyou for mentioning Ziad it means a lot
@lovelife-he3gw5 жыл бұрын
@@thepoliticalfederationofeq1216 Pepsi ,thankyou for keeping Ziads memory alive ,Peace and Love ,Helen aka Happy days
@lovelife-he3gw5 жыл бұрын
@@thepoliticalfederationofeq1216 i sent the reply to close friends of Ziad today ,they said to tell you thankyou from the heart ,sending blessings to you and your family
@ninedivines53745 жыл бұрын
The guards went sicko mode
@Daniel_Boxing_UK5 жыл бұрын
‘Shaun’, blooming productive text...apologies.
@ryan100101able5 жыл бұрын
unfukkin real sooo cruel
@henrygarnett28795 жыл бұрын
Free Charles Salvador who after 40years is still going though the system wiv a never ending sentence ,they continue to try to break his spirit ,
@BillHendricksJr5 жыл бұрын
Nice one, gov’ner
@razwanakram44465 жыл бұрын
This guy with the glasses looks like Supa T aka Sundragon the London rapper from the late 90s and early 2000s $@fe
@dannyharris46765 жыл бұрын
Another video. You do spoil us
@cadnewham5 жыл бұрын
On a wing at a cat b local there is an average of 300-500 bells a day. Yes its abused
@jboy24125 жыл бұрын
Pls pls pls do another podcast or vids with Pepsi by far the best podcast on your channel also give him a break about leaning back in the chair 😂😂 jk bro
@darkeyes74445 жыл бұрын
What did you go in prison for? You dont sound like a violent person.
@jamessewell63583 жыл бұрын
Let him talk you knob
@djkekz66175 жыл бұрын
Wow earliest ive been on a video
@AaaAAA-jv6ds5 жыл бұрын
u was in nick not hotel ppl like me pay 4 u while my nan cant get hip done i would put all criminals down so oap can be taken care of u get u deserve no sympathy.any of u god bless our screws
@jayman77525 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he shouldn’t have chucked the milk; sounds like he shouldn’t have pressed the bell.
@TheDropdeadZed5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the prison guards need bullets through their skulls for literally torturing him and other prisoners.
@JB-pq3ex5 жыл бұрын
love your content bruv but the double uploads are starting to piss me off
@xnthrax82515 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy Aylesbury Represent!!
@ilovefijiwater47725 жыл бұрын
Shoutout Feltham tw14
@CCCP-UK5 жыл бұрын
Just a bit of reading for you read it you might learn something
@ufackinwot15245 жыл бұрын
I remember b2 -13 end of the wing them windows there weren't no windows ! Why u talking bout windows then ?
@fisharefriends5985 жыл бұрын
Don’t do crime.... it’s bad for your health
@jasonthrower3544 жыл бұрын
Erm
@torinjones32215 жыл бұрын
That's why you don't go to prison kids
@benandjoshpissaround36595 жыл бұрын
Tta
@Aerojet015 жыл бұрын
Sorry Shaun, I could be wrong but I think this guy is exaggerating. The way he keeps pausing, as if he's making the whole thing up as he's going along. Bars without glass windows? Milk cartons to be thrown out of the window? Hmm I agree with fighting and sticking up for yourself which is commonplace in prison life, but some of the other stuff, I'm not so sure.
@lilniggax10295 жыл бұрын
This is true bro the screws in the uk jails are bullies and would happily kick shit out of you for nothing
@crockybird32875 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an exaggeration
@jamessewell63583 жыл бұрын
If he hasn't gone back . It worked
@jakegoodchild39415 жыл бұрын
Here's a thought... be a good boy
@bennypapino36705 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@csu35245 жыл бұрын
Bulsht!!!!!!
@benandjoshpissaround36595 жыл бұрын
First
@theblytonian39065 жыл бұрын
Gotta' love the inmate victim mentality. Chooses to misuses the *Emergency* button, gets disciplined for it and it's "the POs "setting him up". Chooses to throw his garbage out the window, gets disciplined for it, and it's "the POs setting him up". o.O Now I'm old enough and sufficiently erudite to know there are some people (minority) who are wrongly convicted, *but* to get a custodial sentence these days for other than persecution of political incorrectness or on an extremely serious crime, *other than in the USA* , in western five eyes countries like the UK, CA, NZ, and AU, offenders are by and large persistent offenders with a significant previous conviction history. By the time they receive their custodial reward, they have persistently and consistently demonstrated zero regard for social conformity or basic decency and regard for the impact of their behaviours upon their fellow man. Distributing and selling *illegal* drugs for years for profit eh Shaun? You and your ilk deserve special consideration why exactly? Because your mummy loves you? Now you're a smart guy, so you can probably figure out why most of society doesn't care what happens to people like you, and those much worse. Prison behaviours are pretty straightforward consequences which hardly come as a surprise given the nature of the beasts, if foreign and anathema to decent folk. What can you expect when this behaviourally self-annointed human refuse is restricted by necessary force to an enclosed environment together necessarily away from decent society where their behaviours can be contained so as to impact only upon one another? Ain't gonna alter those behaviours. Rehabilitation is a nonsense. Predators will see and exploit softness as weakness. Only fear and immediate repercussion by disproportionate overwhelming *force* or severe retribution 'rehabilitates' their kind of mentality. I'm guessing the fear of going back inside ever again has worked well enough on you...would I be right? Rule number one. Exercise free will and DON'T *choose* to engage in crime. If finding oneself inside, "Welcome to the Barbarian 'jungle'". Learn Rule number two. Don't call attention to yourself. Rule three. Vae victus. I agree that the prison system is flawed. I'd prefer penalisation on a system of Roman or French galley ships, a remote KZ or Bolshevik Gulag system or that of colonial French Giuana closed in 1947 where prisoners are kept away from society in a 'harsh' environment so busy at hard labour from dawn to dusk that other than the worst recalcitrants, the survivors have nothing left in the way of will or energy for troublemaking. Hell on earth? Yes. Suicide? Don't care. Plenty of proven worthy people on the planet to be bothered with those who have demonstrated they aren't. Doing decent society a favour. Persistent recalcitrant offenders? If they won't comply with being worked to death, 9mm Parabellum is a most effective containment.
@chindvids5 жыл бұрын
You know a lot of people in the prison system are just on drug possession charges rather than distribution or violent crime why the fuck would you think a gulag system is proportionate
@bennypapino36705 жыл бұрын
Fuck off
@theblytonian39065 жыл бұрын
@@chindvids Maybe in some states of the USA, where you'll get taken to jail until bail (nominal) is arranged, but in the five eyes country ROW, you will be released on your own recognizance pretty much immediately after being charged and will definitely *NOT* get a custodial sentence on an *initial* personal use (amount) possession charge when you appear. Which is it, comprehension or just intelligence lacking? By the time someone receives a conviction and *custodial* sentence for personal use possession, they've definitively demonstrated A. repeated stupidity, B. irresponsibility, C. oxygen theft, D. recalcitrance E. that they are a high risk to re-offend or worse. Personally I think they deserve 9mm to the nape of the neck with body cremation and disposal at their/NOK's expense, but I''d be prepared to compromise and be lenient with a mandatory conviction without parole and five years on the galleys as demonstrative remorse and rehabilitation for a first conviction.
@LlewenEbag5 жыл бұрын
@@theblytonian3906 Please grow up.
@theblytonian39065 жыл бұрын
@@LlewenEbag Pretty sure its not me that needs to do any "growing up" when it's you who empathise and identify with convicted criminal sub--human refuse playing the *victim* card. The system is too soft today, intentionally. But that's another discourse entirely well beyond your 'ken. Inarguably much harsher deterrents are needed, preferably permanent to eliminate those exhibiting criminal behavioural traits from the gene pool. If threat of 5 years in a KZ wasn't to sufficient to deter, or serving it 'rehabilitate', a summarily dispensed 9mm pill would - instantly.