😅, Thanks a ton. I tried my best to get “aman” on him but he played well, after all he’s QAR!

What Rohani Ailaj , just wait and watch 😂 how Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza down this clown Qaisar Raja molviz agent , he can't even speak against Ashraf Ali Rasool Allah kufria kalma in front of molviz , bcz they will kick him out of their Madrasaz , #NokriToGai 😂 munafiq raja and company will be downed logically soon, new podcast channel INSHALLAH from USA millionaire 😎😎😎✌️

​​@@ahmedfozan123hhhh was actually a productive podcast and we have gain a bundle knowledge.. more power to you !

​@@ahmedfozan123great podcast bro keep it up , may u succeed more and more INSHALLAH 😎😎😎✌️ love from USA 👍

Must read this carefully 🙏 Ahmed Fozan Bhai leave the rest Qaiser sahb or Engineer sahb u urself require to be more educated and aware , You know what u were trying to do the whole podcast(Majority of time) : - Started the Engineer topic on ur own - Tried to misinterpret Qaiser sahb again and again while he was giving valid points one after another - Your research was not complete on the contribution of Qaiser sahb (i.e Mehrub moiz wali debate , his work in Madaris, with ulma etc) - You were somehow brainwashed by engineer mirza that when qaiser sahb proved his stance on engineer sahb and told that he is like brother to him and he is easy on him u again at one point said , " kia me engineer sahb ka naam lelu r u ok with that ? Then when qaiser sahb said why u asking chill , u again blamed him that : " ap to sensitive horhy hen . - Matlab khud hi engineer ka topic cheru qaiser sahb ko tease kro phr wo jawaab deny lgen to kaho k sir u again started the engineer topic - You are so blind in terms of firqa waryat that u just ignored the positive work these khateeb and Molana r doing in their masjids, once and for all . - My advice: do ur research on ground basis and through surveys so that u have brighter view of other Ulmas and khateebs contribution in society as well same as Engineer sahb , don't be blind at every statement engineer makes , peace out ✌️🕊️ 0:01

Yes you are right bro.

Than you didnt listen Ali bhai...

Engineer Ali Mirza became too arrogant these days. He did not accept his fault . The points of QAR is too valid and logical

​@@ThyenigmaEngineer sahab maghroor ho chuke ha babo ko khatam krte krte ab wo khud baba ban ke blunders kr rhe ha

@@user-co4nt6ne3g agree

Channel he 2014 mein bna hai

Ali bhai aag bagola hogyi thy es lyi ye dra howa ta

Same

Ashraf Ali Rasool Allah ka defa krny waly Firqaparast molviyon k agents, molviyon k samny Ashraf Ali Rasool Allah ko kufria kalma ku nhi kehty Tum begairat loog 😜😂😁🖐🏿 ziyada sa ziyada kia ho ga nokriyon sa nikal dain ga 😂😂😂🖐🏿

yar ma to Bangladesh se hu. Or ma qasar sir ko sunti ho😍 also mufti yasir Nadeem Al wazdi😍ko. Firka Muslim ko kuc nhi diya sivay nuksan ka. So , hame ilhad ke kilhaf kam karni caiha., secularism., atheist, ke kilaf

Ha

Sahi kaha

Hm

Ooo Bhai last 5 mints molviyon wala biyan diya iss na , APNA agenda extremist molvisim ko promote krny k baat awam ko emotional krny ki purani technique ha ye , hum b apny bachon ko Marty dum taq islam par qaim rehny ka kehty Hain , chahy Kuch b ho Jai humaray sath 😎😎😎✌️

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​@@Fakemotivationalspeakersyar to lindu ha kya😂

@@BRMUSLIM Tumharee tarah Deoband Aqalband Nahi hy AlhamduLillah

@zeeshan-pk9qx yar ma to Bangladesh se hu. Or ma qasar sir ko sunti ho😍 also mufti yasir Nadeem Al wazdi😍ko. Firka Muslim ko kuc nhi diya sivay nuksan ka. So , hame ilhad ke kilhaf kam karni caiha., secularism., atheist, ke kilaf

At least Pakistani people don't have guts to match his intelligence.

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Firka waryat bohat bara issue hai sirf plz Athiesm koi issue nahi pakistam k kia kabari athiest hai

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آمین

What a manipulative man qaiser raja is …. Ali mirza explained a doctrine that was totally 100% right and used a term similar to it for this purpose … he himself knows ali mirza is not talking about secularism to the T but used the concept as it was similar to what he was explaining . (Secularism in the sense of firqas rather than religions and irreligion …as it’s in europe countries)… but still he is bashing him in his video’s for using a very similar term for a thing that doesn’t have a specific term for it …. I don’t see a reason for qaiser raja to do it now … in my opinion now even if he realises it he won’t stop because at this point this controversy is all about ego( on qaiser bhai’s end)

@@msun2157 brother we can't judge the intentions unless we are not confirmed about it. Both are good people and play their role in their fields. I think the controversy should be over, there is nothing in it.

​@@msun2157 TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE IT RIGHT , BROTHER. 🙂

@@JustbeKind-xf5pe agreed

@@khadija.8624 i don’t think there is anything wrong with explaining something by using similar term …. Think about it …will a person who advocates the teachings of Quran and the sunnah to the T promote or even support secularism as it is …. Ofc not ..its Crystal clear what his intention was and what he was trying to say and advocate … if we think about it .. what he was saying was very logical but qaiser bhai just kept nitpicking… though a lot of what qaiser bhai said was good but at this point he is just nitpicking for no reason.

Shukriya brother

@@ahmedfozan123 yar ma to Bangladesh se hu. Or ma qasar sir ko sunti ho😍 also mufti yasir Nadeem Al wazdi😍ko. Firka Muslim ko kuc nhi diya sivay nuksan ka. So , hame ilhad ke kilhaf kam karni caiha., secularism., atheist, ke kilaf

@@BRMUSLIMtrue

Tru

Don't Know About his GUTs... But Qaisar Ahmad Raja is Genuine Person ❤ Love from India... Hate and Lanat to those Jiske wjay se India me Madrssa aur Muftio ko din raat gali sanne parti hai... Waakthoooooo🤮🤮🤮

Exactly 💯

Aameenn ❤️

Phir tu Palestine k sth hamare border nahi milte tu hamein on ki bhi help nahi krni chahiyeh? Yeh baat bhi apka dimagh tasleem krta he?

Bro sorry but you didn't get the main point of this podcast , it was simply to make them realise their mistakes and build a brotherly connection

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​@@ahmedfozan123what is mean by this"😅"? If u don't reply to this comment still okay but showing these manners. Teachings of engineer? Huh?

​@@ahmedfozan123wao, you used this emoji?? Strange

@@malik4ab oh by mistake, really sorry. Apologies

No man, 180degree

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QAR BROTHER showed more maturity and patience in my opinion

Aameen ❤️

🤦🤦The very definition of secularism is "the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions." A state run through modern democracy is completely against the Qur'an and sunnah And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the kaafiroon (disbelievers)” [al-Maa'idah 5:44] Apne Kaha hai k agar Islam mein sood haram hai, lekin iske bawajud "halal banking" isse Tara "islamic secularism" kiu Nahi ? "Halal banking" Ka naam hi halal isleye hai k usme "sood Nahi" agar sood Nahi to phir usko hum "halal sood banking" to Nahi kahe Gaye isley "halal banking" kehte Hain chu Kar usme SE Jo haram te usko nikaal diya. Isse Tara there is no such thing as "islamic secularism" Chu agar secularism ko "halal" banane ke liye "secularism" ko nikalna pare ga uski Chu ke Woh to definition se hai haram hai, to agar secularism ko nikaal diya jae to phir banta hai "islamic rule" not "islamic secularism".

❤❤❤well said

There is a difference between "Banking Sood wali" and normal banking without "sood wali". Does the core aspects of banking has interest in it? Does removing interest from banking negates core aspects of Banking? If no. Then Using Islamic Banking as a statement is not a fallacy. But unlike above example. The core aspects of Secularism negates core aspects of Islam. And by removing the aspects of secularism that are contradictory to Islam, such as removing religion from state and giving power to all religion equally, renders secularism obsolete. hence that is why Islamic Secularism becomes an oxymoronic statement. I don't blame you because according to my view, mostly Pakistanis lacks severely in the understanding of the law of non-contradiction. There is a reason why we can't use term such as Muslim Atheist, if you are able to understand this why, you will realize the fallacy in your statement.

@@umair.saleem then Islamic secularism's definition would be my dear sir : "the principle of separation of the state from sectarian institutions." sir yaqeen kren boht simple baat hai k agar democracy haram hai to islamic democracy halal is waja se hai k us mai same principle hai but different boundries alonside with limitations , same isi trah secularism is purely haram but isko jab firqo k bare mai bola jyga to ap isko islamic secularism keh k bol den ge , itni lambi baat ko smjhne k liye ak term hogi jis k sath ''islamic'' attached hone se bat clear ho jygi 3 point : apki baat agr maan le jaay to islamic banking and islamic democracy ki terms ko b ghalat kehna prega agar unko b ghalat keh den to ham apke sath hain , [ i dont know phir ap yaha double standard kyu dikha rahy hain , banking aor democracy k sath kisi waja se ''islamic'' ka woed lagaya gya hai na? ta k definition change ho skay, same goes for secularism, phir baqi do words ko ghalat kehne se q drr rahy hain ap] 4 point : jab ak bnda khud kehra hai k mai ye orignal secularism k liye nahi kehra na hi usko sahi smjhta hu to phir mera khayal h ye ak intellectual dishonesty hai ap logo ki trf se,

@@asmrdailylife416 pata Nahi Apne comment Sahi Tara parhi Nahi yan samaji Nahi, barhaal mere comment lambe hai to ghor SE parhe, yaan akhri mein jo mein baat ki hai atleast Woh ghor SE parhe le. Apka definition "the principal of separation of the state from sectarian institutions" ye definition bhi haram hai, chukar Woh institutions chahe ek dosron SE ikhtilaf rakhte hai unke Woh caliphate and aur islamic rulings state wise ke upar etifak rakhte Hain chahe unmein ikhtilaf hon sab ke bunayade aqeedah state ke hawala se ek hi hai ke islam ke rulinys ke mutabik rule hona chahe, Agar "sectarian" institutions ko nikaal de to phir bachta Kiya hai Islam ki rulings dena wali mein SE ? To Kiya ap log decide kare ga ki islamic rulings Kiya honge ? Iske alawa Apka definition hai hi self defeating, Secularism Ka MATLAB hi hai ki state SE Madhab KO hata na, agar isko aap badal de aur isko aur hi Kuch definition dein to phir ye "secularism" Nahi banta, misaal hai agar koi Banda kehe ki hum chaye (tea) se pathi nikaal de ge to Kiya phir usko hum "chaye without pathi" bol sakte hai ? Nahi Chu Kar by definition chaye hai hi Woh cheez jis mein pathi Hoti hai. Istara agar secularism Ka basic tenet nikaal de to phir Woh secularism nah phir Woh Kuch aur hi hai. Bar haal chahe definition original SE Jo Apne Kaha hai usko bhi maan liya Jaye to phir bhi Woh islamic Nahi Chu Kar jinko aap "sectarian" institution kehte Hai wohi to islamic rulings ko represent karte hai, agar aap unko nikaal de gay to phir Kaise rule Hoga Pakistan Islamically? Kiya aap rulings de gai ? Jinko sab SE bara sectarian group Kaha ha ta hai Puri Muslim ummat mein ? Also, Apne Kaha hai ke agar mere Baat mane Jaye to phir islamic democracy Nahi hogi aur na hi islamic banking.... Mere bhai islamic banking ki "islamic" kehte hai ke usmein SE haram system nikaal diya jaata hai, Pure Ka pure banking system Nahi nikaala jaata, agar hum pure Ka pure system hi badal de to phir isko hum "banking" Nahi keh sakte hai. To explain simply, banking ka bunayade definition ye Nahi "sood yaha SE le lo" isleye agar hum banks se sood nikale to hum phir bhi usko bank keh sakte hai Chu kar uska definition "sood" ke bunyade ke upar nahi kara huwa, agar "banking" ka matlab ye hota "woh cheez jaha SE sood milta hai" aur hum sood nikaal dete to phir hum nahi keh sakte "islamic banking" chu kar jis cheez par woh agaaz kiya ta humne usko hai mitaya de hai, lekin aise nahi, banking broad term hai jiska basic definition hai "the business conducted or services offered by a bank." "Islamic banking" Ka bhi definition same hai siwaye iske ko Jo usmein haram cheez hai unko nikaal Diya hai baaqe bunayade cheez same hai. Aur Apka point about "islamic democracy", democracy Ka basic point hai ke log leader choose karte hai votes me zareye, apka caliphate ko dekhle usmein leader kaise chunein jaate te, votes ke bunyad par jo logon ko acha leader dikh ta tha usko appint karte te, Iske alawa aap history Dekh Lein democracy was founded as an acceptable form of government system in 508 BCE Athens. MATLAB Islam se bhi pehle lekin Kiya 1400 ki islamic ki history huzur ﷺ ya Sahaba nein ya ulema ye kaha ke gum greeki wale "democracy ko islamic" Bana Kar rule kare gay? Nahi. Baat hai ke ye ideologies islamic ideology ke khilaf Hai hum koi gustakho ki banaye hui ideologies ko saaf Kar keh wohi naam apna lei, Hum to chahye ke agae unmein koi ache baat hai Jo Islam ki khilaf nahi to phir woh unse le lein Lekin naam unka mat apnaye. Isse logic pe aap KEH sakte Hai ke LGBTQ wale log bilkul haram hai aur Islam ki khilaf lekin agar unmein koi ache baat hai to Kiya Haam usmein Woh buri baatein nikaal Kar keh de "islamic LGBTQ" ? Naudhubillah? Baat hai ke ye ideologies kuffar ne banaye hai kuffar policies ke upper hum unse ache cheeze le sakte Hain lekin unka naam Nahi apna na chahe chu kar unka naam kuffar ko represent karta hai.

​@zeeshan-pk9qx ye sab extremist terrorist molviyon ki sooch walay Amir Haq aur Qaisar raja ko hi support krty Hain wah 😂😂😂🖐🏿 aur TU har comment k neechy aa jata bachay 🤣🤣🤣🖐🏿

Brother you r absolutely right 😎😎😎👍

@@Fakemotivationalspeakers yeh extremist soch wale Palestine ko at least Muslim ummah ka hisa manti he, buzdilo ki tarah seculars k talve chat te hoe mirzo jesa stance nahi rkhte k on k border hum se nahi milte tu Palestine hamara masla nahi. Lanat tum sab ki soch per

I agree with qaiser ahmed raja on this point, because I can't agree with emam who clearly and specifically mentions that Palestine is not our issue because our borders don't match or boycotting Israeli products is useless.. Ese bande ko even scholar bolna scholars ki beizti he Jo Israel k wajood ko tasleem kr rha ho Palestine k sth. Lanat he esi soch walo per.

Lol, do you think Pakistani Beaurocraciy and administration are bassed on Islamic principles except that its justa part of our constitution? That's what they are arguing on Islma has system let us implement it. Okay secularism is a problem because no matter how much all these firqas disagree with each other but they were never against the islamic system although it will be a headache for your seculars and liberals. Are you really threatened of muslims? Rethink about it or take tour to India or France. Mujha tu ya shmj nhi ata agr itna hi masla hn islam sa tu choor do naa....kud bhi skoon sa raho ga or dooosron ko bhi rehna do ga.

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Aameen, JazakAllah

Agree with you 💯 percent 😍😍😍✌️

exactly

Disagree with Ali bhai with lot of respect for him....

Brother, can you please define secularism? Honestly this is not an insult. But just to understand the idea of Islamic secularism.

exactly, ab agar koi jaan buj k manna na chahy to zabardasti to nahi manwa skte, same rule banking aor decoracy pe jab ham lagate hain to ak dam double standard samne aa jata hai inka, pta nahi kya ajeeb khichri bnai hui hai qaiser bhai ne

@@asmrdailylife416 Sir, with due respect please define secularism. So we can discuss who is making kichari.

my dear sir @@hashimustaad-gg3dc ''the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions is secularism'' this is also mentioned in the main comment [btw this is so amazing k ham log qaiser bhai ki waja se kis trah respect se adress krre hain ak doosre ko which is the best thing he had done in this generation, im so happy about that ] baqi islamic secularism wali baat pe aa jayn do do hath kar lete hain 😃😃

Bilkul theak kaha bro 🥰🤩😍

Jo kam firqe pahle hi kr ke thak gye unko mirza sahab ab video ki shakal main kr rhe hain bade scale par...yehi mahnat hai unki

Ye Qaisar Raja munafiq aur darpook insaan ha ye Firqaparast molviz ko parhata ha un k hilaaf kbi nhi bolay ga , ye Ashraf Ali Rasool Allah k hilaaf nhi bool sakta 😂😂😂

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Right bhai yeh firqaparast mulle kya jane

100% agreed brother, He's doing great job by spreading negativity and misleading our youth to become a Rafidi like Himself, or haan ungli krne kay baad jaan hthaili pay rkhni tou bnti hai na phir😊

👎 no

Indeed. He is a brilliant personality. But the only disagreement is that he supports secularism, which is wrong.

Lekin engineer qaiser Sahab k paon k Barabar b NH h

Bhgoora 😂😂

@@hashimustaad-gg3dc wth? he don't support secularism!

Ye Qaisar Raja molviyon ka agent sirf extremist firqaparast molviyon ko promote krta ha 😂😂😂👍

Imran khan ka kartaarpur jana shirk he ya nhi?

​@@muhammadsaad3513 بلکل اگر وہ اس بابے سے مانگے کی نیت سے گے ہوں ۔

JazakAllah, welcome 🤗

Same ❤👍

Thanks Nasrullah Bhai

On this stance, clearly Qaiser Raja is on the right side. Im also studnt f Engr sahb but in this field engr sahb has zero knowledge. His speclization is on firqa wariyat

Qaisar Raja bongiyan maar raha ha , ma b University ma parha hu ye Qaisar Raja molvisim ko promote kr raha ha 😂😂😂

I agree with your views. Engineer sb must not poke his nose in every matter. He must focus on firqawariyat.

At least he should show some courage and accept his mistake on Palestine matter. He openly said " boycott products doesn't work and they should accept 2 state solution".

@accidentaldeveloper7127 another perfect example of where Engineer sb has absolutely no clue what he is talking about, but feels an obligation to poke his nose into the issue nonetheless. Just to quote you one example, Starbucks has lost around USD 12 billion (9.8%) in its market cap due to losses since the boycott movement started. I can give you dozens of more examples but I hope this one simple example would prove the point.

@@ahsanzia438 totally agree with you brother engineer has a vast knowledge on religion no doubt about it he always quotes authentic references. But he lacks some areas like sociology world affairs economy and Pakistan history for sure. And it's okay to accept your mistakes and move on but labelling someone with " moulvio Ka agent daiyobandiyo Ka agent" isn't a good thing

@@accidentaldeveloper7127 100%!

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largely not hes correct

i think this is the biggest intellectual dishonesty from him, apni side k logo ko defend krne k liye ap kehre hain k firqa parasti itni bari problem nahi hai , bhai wah , phir jhote ko kore wali bat kro to bura maan jayn ge , aor sath hi ye b kehre hain k mere ye domain nahi hai mai is pe nahi boluga , bhai double wahh

@@asmrdailylife416 90% masjids mn aameen ya rafay yadain krne pr koi much nhi bolta Aap ghar se bahar to niklen Engineer sb likes to exaggerate things

کس جنت میں رہتے ہوں میاں​@@ebrahimabdurrehman

true

Democracy is Kufar and Islamic Democracy is Islam then Why not Islamic Secularism? If you have issue the term Secularism then Why you don't have issue the term Democracy?

​@@msaqibmanduriboth are wrong but you're justifying the term secularism by saying democracy is wrong why can't you say that both are wrong? Two wrongs does not make one wrong right does it?

@@cal_me_gulldozer The Question is about Qaiser Raja Doctrine

@@msaqibmanduri he agrees as well, that both banking and democracy are not intrinsically wrong but some aspects of them are unislamic which is why they can be changed and be devised as Islamic. On the other hand, mirza sahab is using secularism which is intrinsically wrong and against the Islamic values, how can he make it Islamic? Secularism is separation of state and religion, how can that be Islamic? Would u care to answer?

Exactly bro 💯👍👍👍 agree with you.

Agree with you 💯 percent 😍😍😍👍

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