Quadzilla Banshee vs Raptor 700 ( Fastest 2-Stroke vs Fastest 4-Stroke)
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2 жыл бұрынI race my Quadzilla Banshee (Fastest 2-stroke quad) against my Yamaha Raptor 700 (Fastest 4-stroke quad) to see which machine is actually faster. #Quadzilla, #Raptor700, #Race,
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@2vintage 2 жыл бұрын
Which quad would you pick?
@vincentboule7881 2 жыл бұрын
quadzilla
@ronniewilliz153 2 жыл бұрын
the raptor cus the 500 isn't tuned
@keepitrealfornow3173 2 жыл бұрын
2 stroke, no question
@ronniewilliz153 2 жыл бұрын
@martin barr's CRF450 lol no it's not u silly goose
@jeredalmeida1880 2 жыл бұрын
The one that doesn't have a bunch of unnecessary moving parts.
@stevefritch3180 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe. That was a great race! Both quads look awesome and possess different characteristics. It was cool to see your bro in the video as he hasn't been in any of your recent vids. Keep up the great work and looking forward to next video.
@manaaalsuwaidi3643 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you guys again at it! The first video I've ever saw in your channel was a banshee vs a quarzilla (and I subscribed after! 👍🏻) Back in the days! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Keep it up!
@dannytyson3278 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah bro I look forward to seeing your vids !
@lbdrummer3 2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty awesome, great video!
@ericsacco7406 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 87 zilla that is ported and higher compression with pipe. I smoked a TRX450R and a YFZ450R with no issues on a dry lake bed. Both of those other quads were more fun to ride in the tight stuff and would wheelie a lot easier. The ZIlla likes to just go fast and feels so dated. But i LOVE it!!
@ericsacco7406 Жыл бұрын
@Danny Did not matter what part of the band he was in... it was NO contest. From a dead start or roll on I took him easy.
@arturomedina5746 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy that you post this up today.. just yesterday a Michael Sabo video came up on my KZfaq and what he said about the raptor 700 being fastest quad out there got me thinking if he's right.. and now u put this video just confirming what I heard .. I would have liked to see a couple of more races maybe 6 total. With u on the raptor 3 times and then the other 3 on the 500.. but I like your videos...thanx again..
@joenatoli715 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah joe!! Always love to see chuck make an appearance haha, the 700 is faster for now, I still think the 500 isn’t fully cleared, when the all cleared out I think it’ll stand a chance 🔥
@wyattelder7776 Жыл бұрын
Jesus loves you
@jacoberbe2351 2 жыл бұрын
Might want to get a bigger petcock for the quadzilla banshee. Possibly running the bowl dry at full throttle. Look at a pingel valve. Stock banshee petcocks don't flow alot of fuel. And I bet that eats fuel like crazy
@2vintage 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it does
@christopherenke4053 2 жыл бұрын
Id also check jetting, those quadzillas are know to be hard to keep running because they often run insanely lean, same thing with the LT250
@EzMoney88 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the gap òn the banshee plug is too far out..
@chrisbrumbaugh9936 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking jetting but it's got potential
@smbdy5519 2 жыл бұрын
That Banshee sounds like it could go much higher rpm s but something is limiting it maybe jetting or air filter
@ronniewilliz153 2 жыл бұрын
it needs to be tuned
@smbdy5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronniewilliz153 that's what I'm saying
@Fox250R 2 жыл бұрын
@@smbdy5519 every bike these guys own needs to be tuned lol
@smbdy5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fox250R LMFAO
@techs1smh13 2 жыл бұрын
It's a 500 they don't rev past maybe 7500. Four stroke probably 9000
@noostNL 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@mmaaddict78 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck is always a good sport. Nice job you’ve done on both machines.
@bannana6290 2 жыл бұрын
hes polluting your brains with misinformation
@corporalclegg914 2 жыл бұрын
Big Charles in the House. that’s great to see. you bros haven’t changed a shred
@keepitrealfornow3173 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing sounds better on a Sunday morning!!
@maxball7497 2 жыл бұрын
New vids glad to see it
@johnnym4400 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck is an all around better rider, You don't wind out your gears long enough, you shift way to low in the RPM's.
@mmaaddict78 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t blame him, I’d be a bit leery of blowing that banshee up again as well.
@bannana6290 2 жыл бұрын
its misinformation its noa suzki 250r or 200 on a yahmaha look at 11:29 clear as day the banshees were twin carbed and twin piston 350 or the 500 would rip the raptor stock banshees there gone cause there deadly fast
@lennydetloff1031 Жыл бұрын
Had the same thought 💭
@Hudson12339 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve more sups! Keep up the grind!!
@nicolecittadini4234 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a joke right
@Hudson12339 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolecittadini4234 Nope
@nicolecittadini4234 2 жыл бұрын
He has way too many subs compared to other channels like mike Saba or time machines or ononewheel
@Hudson12339 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolecittadini4234 Ok, I can't fine mike Saba but on one wheel does not do the same kind of content and is newer then 2vintage. 2vintage has been girding for years and years and puts on quality content. I do agree that time machines has good content tho just not as informative
@dc202dadangerzone5 2 жыл бұрын
WE MISS U & BRUH BATTLING IT OUT ON DA BIKES ... MORE PLEASE ... SALUTE BRUH
@RagdollRacingInc 2 жыл бұрын
Been a minute broski 🤙 how you been mate 👍🇭🇲
@peteraitken6494 2 жыл бұрын
Two sweet quads gor sure must say though I do like the raptor awesome machine good race between both not much in it great vid joe take care to you and chuck he's a good sport 🔧🔧🔧👍👍👌
@bighomieJ5X 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta love the power of a 500cc 2 stroke engine 😁😁
@puff427 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid.close race both riders. I remember u hide chucks bike n the woods n told him it was stolen..lmfao..Great 2 c him doing good and still riding..b safe.peace..
@NyMadePookie 2 жыл бұрын
Not only have we had the luxury of watching you build a bunch of beasts we also had the luxury of watching Charlie grow to a grown man 😂🤌🏼
@bannana6290 2 жыл бұрын
this is fake agenda misinformation to rot our brains look at 11:29 its a 200 or 250cc suzuki motor on a yahmaha with jett problems and messed up air fuel or clogged jet
@ALDA2479 2 жыл бұрын
I been riding for over 35yrs the quadzilla should beat the raptor I think there is still a little somethings going on with the bike because it stays sounding congested as if maybe carb needs finer tuned or even a different carb all together
@nickbushta3542 2 жыл бұрын
What was ur first bike because I’m thinking about getting a Yamaha yz 125 for my first
@kenyelltillery5354 2 жыл бұрын
Put exhaust air filter power commander on the raptor. An you can put any kind of carb you want on that 500 it want be a race.
@hotboyz4202 2 жыл бұрын
He isn’t hitting power band is the problem
@michaelleinbach6249 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickbushta3542 Depending on your weight... that should determine if you get a 125 or not. IF you are over 175... You should probably get a 250 and just ease into it. I found that the 125 was great... but very quickly you will want more power. Just get the 250 and be easy and sensible. If you don't believe you can be sensible... I couldn't at a young age...then stick with the 125. I'm not sure about the exact weight so you may want to look into it. But me at 200 pounds on a 125... I can feel its power but it seems to not be moving like it sounds. The 250 doesn't give a shit about my 200 pounds. lol
@derekgardin1512 2 жыл бұрын
Way too rich up top.
@izaiahshull6511 Жыл бұрын
Incredible!!
@DontellStreetmuscle 2 жыл бұрын
STOCK raptor wow, don’t need pipes or tune just factory fast, great video👍🏽
@cxbra 7 ай бұрын
I love this channel! One thing I can say is, you need MORE HEAT in that 2 stroke! Everytime you turn the bikes off after a run its cooling off to square one.. also with the Raptor and all 4 strokes, they need high oil temperature to safely rev out! You are stressing these motors to full redline after warming them up for 45 seconds 🤦🏾♂️.. thats not hot enough. 2 strokes need the pipe super hot with a nice fat air/fuel mixture to rev out and the 4 strokes need a high oil temp, or else 👿 . Leave the bikes running longer. I like to leave my bikes on without ever turning them off until im ready to cool em off.
@garbageman3992 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind 4 stroke, I ride 2 stroke and 4 stroke but the fact that an untuned 1987 two stroke that has 200 less cc's can still keep up with the modern tuned in 4 stroke shows how amazing two stroke is, if they kept making two stroke improvements and put it in the same frame and such it wouldn't even be a challenge.
@bannana6290 2 жыл бұрын
this is a 200cc suzki motr bro look at 11:29
@garbageman3992 2 жыл бұрын
@@bannana6290 im sorry what? that is a 700cc yamaha raptor, not a 200cc suzuki
@user-rb8do7mw4l Жыл бұрын
@@bannana6290 What? The Quadzilla Banshee has a Suzuki LT500 engine in it and the Raptor has a Raptor 700cc engine. Go watch the series lol
@foxxstain 11 ай бұрын
@@garbageman3992 woooosh
@garbageman3992 11 ай бұрын
@@foxxstain wym? this isnt a joke i missed or anything im just stating my opinion?
@TaNgLeD2121 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, sounds like the banshee cuts out mid powerband, that’s where all the magic happens lol I think the banshee will be faster when that’s figured out, also your shifting gears to quick
@winchracing64 2 жыл бұрын
I just built a stretched 06 blaster with raptor a-arms,hubs,suspension,swingarm ect...with a 05 crf450r built engine. It's a freaking animal!!!
@arturomedina5746 2 жыл бұрын
Bro do you have it on you tube so that we can check it out?
@jaydenrobertson5061 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d love to see it
@elibnem4126 29 күн бұрын
Oh now that sounds like fun
@GuessWhoGurr 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I'm about to go check out my banshee's top speed today!!
@bannana6290 2 жыл бұрын
11:29 suzki 250r
@markalan4026 Жыл бұрын
@@bannana6290 its a lt500 quad racer engine, not a 250r.
@murrayminimotors1674 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet quads
@bengibson3955 2 жыл бұрын
Quick tip-Stop shutting the bikes down immediately after a full-throttle run. It puts a lot of heat into the top end of the barrel, head, piston crown and exhaust ports, which require coolant flow to remove and dissipate the heat. Engine components generally live much longer, happier lives if they are heated and cooled gradually. Most mechanical systems are the same-try parking your car immediately after doing something like a 20 minute session on a racetrack. You”get a big hot spot where the calliper and brake pads sit and I’ve seen a number of cracked rotors. What you’ll usually see at track days with modded road cars is a bunch of people driving slowly behind the pits for 3 or 4 minutes to slowly remove heat from brake rotors. This cooling period is not just for brakes, it’s also done to slowly remove heat from the engine.
@bengibson3955 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the long winded comment.
@0ptimal Жыл бұрын
@@bengibson3955 good info, makes sense
@TwIn603 Жыл бұрын
Makes total sense I’ll keep this in mind always
@jaybeezy4843 10 ай бұрын
How do you do plug chops?
@mineer-pg5sv 6 ай бұрын
Thx for the tip I never knew this
@Benladance69 2 жыл бұрын
nice bro !
@AvocatDude Жыл бұрын
You’re an excellent mechanic.
@JesusNavarro-no5wb 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2021 raptor 700r with a slip on and k&n filter top speed no wind is 87.5, when there is wind pushing it hits 91. I tested it with 6 different speed apps and drove a rzr next to it and they were all the same result if not 1 mph different. I tested it at el mirage dry lake bed, have proof as well 🤟
@tshoreproductions9184 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally scrolling through Marketplace for a banshee and found your quadzilla banshee on there.
@chathamguy1able 2 жыл бұрын
they are both nice 4 wheelers --but i do like the looks of the raptor 700 more == i would ratter have more power then speed == keep up thre good work
@buckinbronco1291 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get all your knowledge to rebuild stuff? I want to start my self but dont know where to begin.
@m8fusion712 2 жыл бұрын
Good race guy's
@n2vxc 2 жыл бұрын
the suzukaha runs like garbage, ive not seen a 2 stroke yet he has worked on really run,was breaking up the entire time and never came on the pipe.
@nimrodus658 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, i have an 87 zilla and i can guarantee that it would blow the doors off that raptor🤣
@n2vxc 2 жыл бұрын
@@nimrodus658 I give him some credit , he flounders his way through the rebuild but they never really run good. My stock banshee would pull front end up with out trying.
@VONTA_305 2 жыл бұрын
Quadzilla banshee vs the snowmobile banshee 💥💥💥
@jasonstewart8973 11 ай бұрын
Man just something special bout 2stroke big bores
@royhenson3379 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Banzilla.
@johnbryant5086 2 жыл бұрын
That Zilla needed a good rider you just brought shame to all of us Zilla owners
@lucascady4992 Жыл бұрын
Quadzilla's more Myth than Legend! I had one, rebuilt everything from the ground Up, Almost $6000 in after market/OEM parts.. If you truly want a fast one, find a mint One, put on a DrQ pipe, V-force reeds, lectron carb, a change the gearing with the sprockets.. It's only a 5speed so it really doesn't have the wide open top end.. But I've seen a few do triple didgets!! ✌️
@chad7934 Жыл бұрын
I have outrun every stock race quad on market with my stock 700 they can’t be beat
@timothyzhelnovakov5586 2 жыл бұрын
19:13 that’s at least how fast your cr500 should have gone
@mconley12345 Жыл бұрын
is it necessary to let quads cool all the time. Fun video
@notjoecheez1 2 жыл бұрын
You should buy a green light race starter of sorts for these little races so you guys can take off more evenly and not rely on a head nod
@codymakowski7394 2 жыл бұрын
The raptor looks like it doesn't have any water in the coolant Reservoir
@steviedee71 6 ай бұрын
That banshee sounds pissed off lol
@Fares69- 2 жыл бұрын
Nice I have a banshee 350 2009
@izaiahshull6511 Жыл бұрын
Love it
@leebenstead7171 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get my head around why this guy doesn't know when something is running like shit considering all the work he does 🤷♂️
@benny8300 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree he also does things half ass
@SG-Cichlids 2 жыл бұрын
It's rich up top. For some reason he has a fascination with how much it smoking.
@shawnsatterlee6035 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's definitely running rich on the main. Also intentionally loading it up doesn't help anything.
@alecboswell5527 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely that banshee is only giving half of what it can.
@benny8300 2 жыл бұрын
See I’m not the only one agrees lol
@robertsheehanii8096 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's a cool quad but what made you want to do the hybrid project? I have a banshee and wouldn't want to put a different motor in it. Same if I had a zilla. What brought on the idea?
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL Ай бұрын
That Suzuki banshee was running really rich
@RanchDelivery 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the title to be “Charlie blew up my quadzilla banshee”
@laska907 2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you guys ride anywhere on some actual trails instead of your parents house?
@2vintage 2 жыл бұрын
Soon very soon
@johnnym4400 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing you never see them kicking up dirt, like they're meant to do. I think if you guys go to some different places you'll get more subscribers.
@xxGmon3yxx 2 жыл бұрын
For someone that's starting out this works, since the ATV is likely to be used around the neighborhood first.
@turdherder411 2 жыл бұрын
Mix the oil 50/1 after break in of the engine. The bike will run better.
@mineer-pg5sv 6 ай бұрын
Lmao no tf it wouldn't who told you that bs💀
@EA383RM 2 жыл бұрын
Re jet the banshee get it dialled and race again it’ll win
@willdiedrich1356 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a give away with the banshee I think all your fans including me would love it
@fromex2lsturbo 2 жыл бұрын
High revving idle.. breaking up at top end and overall not sounding right on the zilla buddy!! Think you should hook up with sabo and maybe some of his connections.. something still needs a tweaking for it to run right.. and you may well have it dialed in but sometimes there’s that out of the box idea someone else has that makes all the difference! What dave moore did for sabo on his 250r was incredible!! All his machines run and sound perfect now!! Best of luck pal!! Keep doin your thing!!
@apaudorff 2 жыл бұрын
Why dont you try getting the jetting correct on the lt500r engine and redo the race
@maxwilliamson9735 2 жыл бұрын
You do a video on the KFX 400
@javierravila5712 3 ай бұрын
I think the quad Zilla suxxxx, bansheee 350 w toomeys will rock anything up the dunes, mod for mod 💯💪🏼
@realkilju 2 жыл бұрын
Banshee all day everyday
@garencrofoot3666 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need to mess with the jets it spits a sputters at top end
@austingilmore7997 2 жыл бұрын
The 500 should smack I can hear it cutting out on top end just wait till you get it right I love riding the big bore bikes nothing can beat them
@SkillsFx Жыл бұрын
Looks like you need a hotter plug. Also seems to be running very rich
@techtard829 2 жыл бұрын
The problem you are having with the 500, is that you put it on a platform designed for a 350 and didn't account for the increase in displacement. The petcock is not flowing enough fuel, and the airbox is likely not providing enough air. As it sits now, my tuned Blaster 200 would eat it alive. Fix those two things and THEN tune the engine. I guarantee it will blow your mind when it is running properly. Night and day difference. After that, find a good pipe, re-tune it and prepare to meet your maker!
@bannana6290 2 жыл бұрын
its not a banshee motor anot a twin 350 or a 500 its a suzki 250 r motor look at 11:29
@chasefaull2184 2 жыл бұрын
The only bike I’ve seen keep up with the lt500 we had was a trx450r it could keep up in the dirt but on the street the lt 500 with steel belted tires is still the fastest
@johnlouis5200 2 жыл бұрын
if the stator only has bolt holes no ajustment. file the holes so you get some ajustment
@jonpecoraro8784 Жыл бұрын
Put that 500 in that raptor. That would make some serious impact on the quad guys. Name it godzilla
@3613jeremy Жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine had the QuadZilla built for the dragstrip running methanol that I wanted to buy but the idea of converting it back to a usable off road quad seemed like a dumb idea so I passed on it I'll always kick myself
@chadscott2499 2 жыл бұрын
Should of put the 500 in a 250r frame way better platform and quad banshee is good for one thing a straight line and that's it
@dreamersrestoration3781 2 жыл бұрын
We missed Chuck lol
@briangodek1989 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my bangs are in my face....oh I have to hold in the clutch? Chuck is a duesch.
@mikeharwell9823 7 ай бұрын
What are the tubes coming out of the gas caps
@bigcaputo09 2 жыл бұрын
The rapter is fast but I'll bet a bunch more heavy!! I really like the 500 cuz I'm old school!!
@davidkelly7921 2 жыл бұрын
That Banshee slow as hell posed to be a Banshee 600 Bantry 350s or running harder than them
@arjenisarrieta2669 2 жыл бұрын
You should race a yfz vs the raptor
@gtisid 2 жыл бұрын
think the jetting is out on the banshee its breaking up on full throttle. its just one of those bikes that needs a lot of fettling
@agustinbrescia4225 Жыл бұрын
Que paso con el? No as echo más videos 😥
@billmarty8526 2 жыл бұрын
I'd take the banshee but with a 350 twin with fmf fattys,what kind of 2 stroke oil do you run again?
@bannana6290 2 жыл бұрын
its a 250 quadacer motor bro 11:29
@jonathoncatterson8901 2 жыл бұрын
@@bannana6290 looks like a 500 head. The head is too big to be a 250
@johnlouis5200 2 жыл бұрын
is the Banshee the one with couple base gaskets ? if so the timing needs ajusting and jet it correctly .. its not revving out
@shanewilliams8768 2 жыл бұрын
#2vintage Remove the clutch safety switch on the 700 to gain a few mph.
@joedeckinflyover 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of 2 stroke oil are you using ?
@Ghost-fc6oh 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew banshee made a 500. Only quadzilla I've ever known was Suzuki 500 2 stoke.. Interesting
@dednside5229 Жыл бұрын
Its not what the banshee is stock. Its what it can do modified . Its only a rd350 engine with no ypvs(powervalve) head. The aftermarket dictates what a banshee can do. Like beat a turbo nitrous hayabusa powered quad in a hillclimb on the dunes. Gotta love whoever thought to use those post emmisions ban rd engines for good use at Yamaha.
@JacksonOffroad25 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the bowl is running dry on the top end with the banshee. Winner of this needs put against a modern sport quad with fuel injection and see the difference
@quentinrowe6432 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even sound like you were reading the banshee out
@JBWolfeman 2 жыл бұрын
i was out jumping guys at little Sahara dunes then they realized I didn't have paddle tires, 2007 Raptor 700. no mods!
@jonnyonwheels 2 жыл бұрын
C’mon, @26:07 is the only (lil’) wheelie we get out of Charlie on this video?!
@joshuasmiley583 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that quadzilla banshees his idling way too high, or has an air leak.
@trip6071 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck‼️‼️‼️‼️😂😂
@briangreenfield7236 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Banshee idling high ?
@thomasallen2714 2 жыл бұрын
I got a blaster 200 n i might buy a a Banshee engine and put it on the Raptor frame kind of like what somebody did with the Yamaha 350 all they did was put a Godzilla 550 Banshee frame
@scottiepimp3361 2 жыл бұрын
Put a pipe, power commander and an air box mod on the raptor then it will really go.
@tomchalette1509 2 жыл бұрын
The 500 four wheelers not opening out. It sounds all choked up. Take a look at your power valve or your reeds. Make sure the air to fuel mixture is correct... And the front tires on the Banshee they look like they're on backwards
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