Max girl, that edit was weird for no reason. I wonder who she pissed off in production.

It's crazy how gullible we are as an audience. We are actually influenced by an edit. I mean, they actually made people dislike Latrice. A former MISS CONGENIALITY. That's hella shady. And you're so right about season 3, it's actually one of my least favorite seasons because everyone came across as unlikeable. And the whole Boogers vs Heathers thing was ridiculous.

I think Tatiana only became nasty when she was defending herself or others. Of course she snapped back at Tyra for obvious reasons and Raven had some very nasty things to say about her because of jealousy.

I just love how the Mangled Morning is the Mangled 4:30 pm over in Europe 😂

I rooted for Tatianna a lot in season 2 cause she never really started the fights but she knew how to end them lol. The top 3 was weird because in the context of the show the only one that came across as a nice queen was Jujubee

The thing with Max was that edit was so obvious. I never for a second found the way they framed her believable, especially that whole corset rigmarole. To me Max seemed lovely, talented, and sweet despite the weird editing

The only reason we even need to talk about the edits is because Jeremi is right, the fandom (in general) feels entitled to own the queens, they think THEY own those fabulous characters and take everything personally. If the fans could behave themselves, then the queens could enjoy themselves more. Phi Phi has said in interview she knew she was getting the villain edit in S4 and was ok with that at the time, back then, like you said, DR didn't have outright "villains", we had Raven and the Heathers who were still loved afterwards for being 'shady'. Also, let's not forget the flipside, there are queens who admit they got an overly positive edit, even saying they don't want to do All Stars because they know they are not as nice as the show made them out to be, I.E. Bianca and Kim Chi.

I remember other queens saying that when Courtney said things they would edit out the other queens laughing so it looked like she was being mean instead of funny,

I miss the old seasons when the drama was good and no one gave a sh*t about what they said.

Courtney is an absolute darling and fell victim to the edit of her Dry Australian sense of humor.

You know what season I loved? UK S2. I liked that the girls supported each other. I liked Ahora getting redemption even if she was gonna be a lil shady still. I loved the SISTERHOOD.

Watch Bussy Queen’s recent video regarding their contracts.......very enlightening on how much control WOW has over the queens.😫

I mean it’s literally in the contract that they can misrepresent you “for dramatic purposes” yet fans buy the edit, call people telling the true conspiracy theorists and ruin queens’ lives.

Ngl yara alxis and stacy were never nasty if i remember well,the only time yara and alexis blew up was in the ball bc manila and raja were being favoured in their faces

No one: Scarlet every 30 seconds after Mera says ANYTHING : Uuuuuúúúûû

You should watch the Kennedy Davenport: Exposed interview that was just recently put out. I've always liked Kennedy, but it really gives you an insight on how the edit misportrayed her on s7

The way that they treated the Vixen has never sat right with me. They tried to paint her as ‘the angry black girl’ character and it just felt like internalised racism from the producers.

Add Utica to this list plz. She had a worse edit than a villain edit, I don't know how even describe it, it was so weird why they edit her like that ALL season long

The point of watching this show is that, if you don't like one Queen, don't take it too personal, don't write to them :)

Not sure if it’s been mentioned anywhere but on The Chop, Manila mentioned being in the UK quarantining for a “reality competition show” 😂 you’d wonder!

Another thing that I noticed when watching the AS5 talent show, was that not only did they not play Blair's backing track, they just used what the mic picked up, while Jujubee got her voice edited to sound like a studio track. You don't hear any of the echo or anything in Juju's performance like you'd hear in live singing, but you do in Blair's. It was REALLY shady.

Season 1, Akashia got the 'villain' edit. Particularly the Girl Group episode and her subsequent critique where she was rolling her eyes and she was read to filth, plus all the bitchiness and coldness she exuded throughout the season. I'd still love to see Akashia return however. She was a character!

"Go back to party city where you belong!" One of the most iconic lines from the show! I loved Phi Phi O'hara! I wish people would understand that realty TV isn't real and would stop sending queens so much hate. If you don't like a queen, put your energy into your favorite queens.

About Latrice, I'm 99% sure she explained in the Exposed interview with Joseph Shepard that what happened with Monique is that while Monique was getting ready, Latrice was talking to her and Monique was not even looking at Latrice, which she took as Monique being disregarding and disingenuine, but all that was not aired, so they made Latrice look like crazy, really.

Jeremy outside drag race participates in Charity works and donates to Charity organisations. He always cares and respects his fans (even the rude ones) and is always listening to people who seek help. And yet lots of people only attack him for being the "villain" in a rrality competition show

Every single time I watch season 7 I'm always shocked by how long Kandy is on the show lol I always think she's like the 2nd or 3rd to go home

I’m so glad to see you dissecting it a bit. It’s very easy to say “well, if you didn’t say it they wouldn’t have footage of it”, but there’s much more to it than that. Yes, they have footage of the queens saying those words, but what did we learn from Shangela in season 3 if not that they can then use those statements to craft any story they want. Ffs, it was because of Shangie’s changing clothing on a single,15-second talking point that they now require queens to choose one confessional look. So yeah, I know a lot of people are in heavily on that quote if you didn’t say it, they wouldn’t have footage of you saying it!“ narrative, but when editing is at play it’s much more than that.

In an unrelated note I love the way Mera talks. I mean her pronunciation of the words. I can listen to her talk all day

Tatiana was never nasty lol i think you're just thinking about her quote in the reunion "raven your insides are dark and nasty"

Opinions on Each of these Queens: - Jaremi fka Phi Phi: I definitely noticed that in S4 they did reuse clips of them rolling their eyes like when Willam won and they rolled their eyes but if you slow down when the camera was on Willam you can see them putting out their hand to congratulate them. I think Jaremi was right a lot of the time but the issue was they didn't need to say it - Roxxy Andrews: Roxxy seemed like the were kinda playing into the villain role and was stressed during the competition. - Darienne Lake: Darienne kinda had the same edit as the bitter old lady brigade - Courtney Act: The only thing I question with this is then why did Joslyn's confessional feel like they were actually kinda mad at Courtney - Kandy Ho: That whole edit is super weird and I wonder why exactly they did that - Max: It was a weird edit to give her but I honestly didn't think much of it. - The Vixen: I think it was The Vixen tone rather than what they said and the fact all the girls kept saying "don't poke the bear". Also her coming at fan favorites like Aquaria and Monet. Like I could not get behind The Vixen cuz they always were the first to start yelling and could be childish. - Milk: Judging by how Milk acts on social media I think it was more than just the edit. - Latrice: Yes they would keep putting the shady music over everything she said even if she was just talking about something random. I think though her personality shined through to me. - Blair St Clair: I honestly didn't know this but to be honest I did think that Cracker's edit was kinda weird on the season. They had her play the villain for like two episodes and then it was abruptly dropped and really never mentioned again.

Drag race desperately needs to get rid of the Villian edit. It’s made the fandom more toxic. I think it’s bs that black deaths and a year of protests made people wake up and realize the vixen was right. I’ve met 2 rugirls with the Villian edit, The Vixen and Raja O’hara. By far the SWEETEST Rugirls I’ve met. I’m quiet, autistic and awkward, you could tell there was stuff on my mind. Raja came right up to me like I was her long lost best friend and started talking to me. The Vixen is equally as amazing. My brother had a run in with Jeremi (phi phi) years after drag race, she was hanging out with I believe farrah moan and they invited him to hang out. He still games with Jeremi from time to time. I hate these edits because they encourage bullying. Words hurt and even though Jeremi was nice to my brother at least at the time, signs showed that she was still struggling with what happened and this was a fee years AFTER As2 and before she stopped going by Phi phi.. Villian edits decieve viewers and harms the queens. In an age that we are demanding better, what are we not demanding better for drag race. Is a Villian edit worth risk harming the queens when we all love drag and need to do what’s best for the people we give a shit about? The way Elliot got treated this season she was called out for racism and yet weeks later several black queens came out about fans calling them n***, the way kandy is getting treated, black queens being called n**** by people who would throw a fit if you called them a f**, editing has helped made this fandom toxic. Sherry Pie and Soju got less hate and they are the 2 queens that people have a legit reason to hate and people don’t hate on them as much. Demand better and get rid of the Villian edits and do something about the toxic fans.

Jeremi said in an interview that Season 4, they all knew that the drama was pushed towards Sharon to win. Hence why she was okay with causing drama because it would get both him and Sharon to the finale. All Stars she wanted to redeem herself and production insinuated she continue to be the villain.

"I'm the Jim Carrey of drag" I died🤣

Take a shot every time mera plays with her hair

We all just need to chill and appreciate the queens! They don't have to be nice all the time! WE ARE not nice all the time! Let's appreciate them for what they are and accept that they are just humans! If you don't like somebody, just don't follow this person! For my part I love Jeremie, Tatianna, Max, Laganja and they other controversial characters... They had a big contribution in the franchise

Kennedy saying that Violet looked like the human gaydar is still the funniest thing to me lmao

I don't agree with how they treated viken in season ten but I can't stand her after what she did to Manila Luzon

Was there vodka in those mugs!? That intro was chaos and I loved it 😂

When it comes to Jeremy, i belive for them the real problem, even more then the edit itself, was what happened after (whit the fans reactions and all that caused to them and their career as they said on AS2) and in particoular the fact the production never did nor said anything abouth it to even try to shield them (or any other queens that came after them) from that. Something the production keept on NOT doing until a judge (would you look at that) came under the fire with the Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman situation. Then they did said something, and Jeremey said very clearly on twitter that when they asked to said something, the production just didnt and ignored them, and it took 12 season + 3 all stars+ 1 UK+ blablabla AND the fact a JUDGE was the target this time for the production to just post a twitter asking the fans to please be more considerate and less, you know, morons. And a LOT of queens after Jeremy had to go through what they did, even more than on this list.Really can't fault Jemermy if you ask me, i mean, saing their right would be the understatement of the century, IMHO.

from the top 8 of season 3, Stacy, Yara and Alexis were the only one‘s that i found really likeable throughout the whole season

Mera fussed or stroked her wig 187 times in this video. 😮

I always thought it was strange how they edited latrice because she was voted as miss congeniality on her season and she's so liked.

Love Scarletts makeup! Love Mera’s outfit! Love the content y’all!

I would recommend watching U (uckey lee) video on the mistreatment of phi phi, they spoke about and showed proof of how they edited phiphi to make her look bad on all stars 2

I still enjoy Drag Race. But now I basically dismiss anything I see outside the actual challenge and runways as "fluff". I don't trust it whatsoever. I just watch to see the talent and sickning looks.

Anyone here after Rupaul's new song?

I personally enjoy it when there are dynamics in a cast and when there are verbal fights between contestants. this is what makes reality tv so fun to watch. what I don't like and appreciate is, when it seems forced or staged (like Max' Edit on S7 or The Vixen's edit on S10) or when it comes across inauthentically. And tbh I am glad, that these queens spoke up about their edit on the show - aside from their intentions in clearing their names - but also due to giving context we wouldn't have in order to somewhat understand their portrayal on the show. What I furthermore absolutely dislike is that the production forces them to say/do things they wouldn't say or do just to make tv. It's rude (hi Asttina btw.) and somewhat objectifies the person which is the downside of reality tv, I guess. Also as in movies, the villains have way more character depths than the heroes and are written with more detail and complexity, which also can be applied to the queens mentioned in the video. It is also needless to say that in the case of Milk she explained on hey queen(!) that their laughter after quotes like ""Touch the fashion' is going to be bigger than RuPauls's 'Supermodel'" was edited out to further her story arch, or that throughout the show they oftentimes had clarified that she is just joking but also those things were edited out.

Did you see the contract video from Bussy, ? Whatdya think

Oh mera you're giving me very... the 4th Sanderson sister that no one seen coming.

The past year had been a full character arc with Vixen. She really put her platform to good use with BLM and Chicago drag in general. Her digital drag show is fire and her latest album is actual fire, and the accompanying videos are conceptual and IT SLAPS

And we need to remember they live in a closed space competing with each other so of course it's made to make everything more intense

You know you've made an impact even when you were edited out of the show once you become the term for when someone get's edited out 😂

There was a clip of a roscoes viewing party with Eureka and Kameron Michaels where they did the audience questions part and one girl asked them about how the show edits the queens and what their opinion on how they were edited was and Eurka put her mic down on the table next to her and picked up her drink and Kameron just tossed her mic to the ground and they just sat there lmao

yes ma’am miss mangle with the confidence this morning!! got me up and doing my skincare to this vid:) love you both so much🧡

The Vixen's edit still makes me mad. You could see her trying to avoid the "angry black girl" edit, and she still got it. She honestly barely even did anything to Eureka and didn't deserve her edit. I don't blame her for walking out of the reunion, and Asia's reaction was just heartbreaking.

Maybe it's too son but I think we can already add Tamisha Iman to this list hahaha

IDK what you guys have been doing the past like 2 weeks. You two have been looking FANTASTIC!!!

i kinda wish y'all would sit next to each other and put the graphic to the side cause it seems like an awkward way to have a conversation side-eyeing each other from 4 feet apart lmao

The edit on the word "edited" at 20:25 was gold.

Bitch, I was just thinking to myself «when will the next mangled episode be released», and THEN there was a notification in my inbox AND IT SURELY WAS EXACTLY THIS😻🥰

Raven was the villain in season 2... she was mean and nasty. Tyra just threw shade which is a part of Drag!!! I still don’t like the Heather’s!!

I really cannot remember a single thing Kandy Ho did besides lipsync, but she wore it out every time!

Personally, Courtney Act has the weirdest edit I've seen on the show (Miz Cracker on AS5 is a close 2nd) Although she was doing well in the competition, her edit never screamed "winner" or "Top 4" for me. There were two episodes I can remember while watching S6 live that made me forget that Courtney was even still in the competition. Because her confessionals were placed in awkward places that didn't fit any narrative. And then they tried to do a villain storyline and must've completely scraped that with her. It doesn't make any sense to me. It really puzzles me to this day.

Season 1: Rebecca Glasscock Season 2: Raven Season 3: The Heathers Season 4: Phi Phi Season 5: Roxxxy Season 6: Darienne Season 7: Ginger Season 8: Derrick Season 9: Alexis Season 10: Vixen Season 11: Everyone jk Silky Season 12: Sherry/Brita Season 13: Kandy

Wait I thought Brita was also pretty mad about the edit she got with Aiden.

I'm happy someone mentions that Vixen wasn't nearly as bad as the show portrayed her, sure she had a couple fights with some people, but she was right in almost all of them, the only one where I'd say it was her fault was in Snatch Game (ep07) when she calls the girls disloyal bitches, but in the rest she was the one provoked, or in her own words "Poked the bear", since Aquaria did create that "Angry black woman" narrative (idk if it was her intention tho) and Vixen was right to call that out, and in Untucked ep04, Eureka was just looking for a night, she could have just said that she was gonna go get a smoke without saying she was tired of Vixen

I agree the new big part of the fandom ( skinny young yt kids )don’t respond to Kennedy’s personality but any older person or even black person from my experience loves and understands Kennedy’s personality

Aiden Zhane's music videos better be in that top 20 list 👀 or at least one of them

It’s sad that people forget that it’s TELEVISION 👏🏽😂

Wonder twin powers activate! Y’all look fantastic!

If I remember right there’s a HeyQween of Latrice talking about the edit and the talent show with the flags and she was talking how amazing it was. But in another video one of the queens brings up that Lateice dropped her flags and that the comment about being a hot mess from Gia was about Latrice. I just wanna sit behind a mirror and watch all this stuff. Lol

Hey Mera & Scarlett. Thanks for the shout out 😃😃👍👍

I don’t think Ru appreciated Kandy Ho making jokes or calling out Tempest for her age. That was very immature and inappropriate and Ru is no youngster. (Me neither😫)

I heard from a Friend of Mine that they gave Latrice the Villan edit because she started her own managing company and some of the Ru girls were signing to it.

I actually liked the Vixen from watching Untucked. She laid down the facts

I've only just discovered you recently and am going back in time and catching up on all your commentary. Love you dolls 🥰

I'm having a mangled morning. ☕

To anyone who is saying things like "She said the words", I'd advice you to watch Zoe Alexanders video about the X-Factor. TV-Producers are masters of manipulation, it's not just about the edit.

Can we talk about Utica, the girl got Vixen'd, Kandy Ho'd, Milk'd, Max'd all at once, like wtf? how IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE

It would never happen but this would be an amazing all stars cast

Honestly season 3 was one of my top seasons because there was no clear villain-hero dynamic. Both the boogers and heathers had some good and bad in them, which I felt was extremely compelling.

Phi phi was right tho... Alaska didn't have a 2 in one look, roxxys sofia regara would have been worse than her alaska and alyssa 2 in 1 lool was a reveal and got away with it cause she alyssa, alska and alyssa stand up show WASNT a stand up show and for the alyssa vs tati lipsync, tati was actually gonna pick roxxys but was told by producers and was forced to pick pho phis

Love mera. But think it’s funny she can make an episode and acknowledge people can be edited to look good or bad but not realize they are falling for clever editing on the current season #justsaying

I really hope if you ever do RPDR, you know what your story is so you can push that edit

6:50 you're forgetting the og villain, Rebecca Glasscock

Utica is the most recent victim of the villain edit yet everyone, including review channels, fell for it and joined in on the hate train. Such a shame.

Just one more reminder: BenDeLaCreme's abbreviated name is Dela, like on that infamous lipstick.

I freaking love this show!

I'm telling you right now: 'Excuse the beauty' better be on your top 20 list! Otherwise....nothing will happen 😁. I'll just be sad

Max deserved so much more...smh. I hope he makes a grand comeback.

So Jeremi should get a pass because he’s only a terrible person when he’s under pressure? And for all these Queens, there’s a certain level of responsibility that they refuse to accept. It’s always easy to blame everyone else except for yourself. That was a common theme with phi phi and vixen. And vixen had issues with everyone, even Monet if you go back and watch.

It’s such a shame that the fandom is so gullible and toxic. I loved kandy muse on her season because she was being her authentic self and it reminded me of old rpdr. But I’m sure people sent her tons of hate each episode. We saw how cautious queens are in later seasons(Utica stands out to me in particular) because they are terrified of a villain edit or offending someone for the smallest reason.While I love icesis couture, Canada s2 felt so dry and fake because everyone(besides icesis, prob suki if she lasted longer) seemed so fake because they were scared to be cancelled. Such a shame

Dry humour doesn't translate... *Trixie Mattel has entered the chat* MERA!

When you audition for reality tv, you go through several interviews with producers during which they ask very specific questions that make it clear as day which character you are being cast as (the bitch, the fake one, the sad one, the sob story, the redemption, the filler, the boring one, the happy one, everyone’s friend, etc...) so unless drag race is different from other reality shows, it would be pretty obvious what they want from you based on your casting. They can’t use what you don’t give them. This is why some queens make it to finals and get told they weren’t right for THAT season (the role was already cast, or they want that character for a different combination) and then get called back at a later season to fulfill that role. This is first and foremost a television show for entertainment purposes and these “edits” are obvious and to be expected. No tv network is investing millions in a reality show to have everyone be boring and friendly with eachother

Loved the energy at the start of this episode! 😂

Phi Phi reminds me so much of myself. I could never deal with being on reality television or the social media backlash. Phi Phi is so talented and creative, she deserves better

The producers eventually found a winning formula for the show and have stuck with it. Now in Season 13 it's all so tired and predictable. The show needs to evolve or it's gonna nose dive in the ratings...

I think season 10 had a lot of really unlikable queens

You're right... When it comes to competing, Jeremy (a.k.a. Phi Phi) can't handle it. Competing DOES bring out the worst in her, because we all saw just how manipulative she can be. What she did to her "best friend" Jiggley, she also TRIED to do in All Stars... and it ALMOST worked. She tried to manipulate both Roxxy Andrews and Alyssa Edwards. It worked on Roxxy... not with my girl Alyssa tho... Alyssa's NOT the one.

I met Jeramie and she was actually remarkably kind. One of the actually warmest queens I have met