Question Time in Edinburgh 13/06/2013 - Scottish Independence Special

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11 жыл бұрын

Panel includes; Leader of the Scottish Conservative Party Ruth Davidson, Scottish Labour's deputy leader Anas Sarwar, Respect MP George Galloway, the SNP leader at Westminster Angus Robertson, broadcaster and columnist Lesley Riddoch, and the leader of UKIP Nigel Farage.
David Dimbleby presents Question Time from Edinburgh, with an audience of 16 and 17-year-olds. The 2014 referendum on Scottish independence will be the first time anyone under 18 has had a vote in the UK.

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@edwardsiu4266
@edwardsiu4266 3 жыл бұрын
When George Galloway speaks you can see the respect he gets from everybody. I liked `the moment he stands up for Nigel Farage's right to speak.
@flowerofscotland8839
@flowerofscotland8839 2 жыл бұрын
Don't make me laugh you eejit. He's got zero respect in the UK. They respect him so much, he's lost 9 out of 15 elections in the last 12 years. He's a pariah in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. The Fud in the Fedora.
@MrsSensible1
@MrsSensible1 11 жыл бұрын
It is great to see what a fair and objective man George Galloway is able to be, defending Farage. And I believe he would be able even to defend Nick Griffin's right to speak. That would be very magnanimous.
@Sabhail_ar_Alba
@Sabhail_ar_Alba 2 жыл бұрын
Don't agree politically with Galloway but as a debater, he's a class act.
@andtime4918
@andtime4918 Жыл бұрын
44:56 one of my favourite ever Question Time moments.
@nudgexs
@nudgexs 2 жыл бұрын
Galloway smashed this out the park
@samlaw1501
@samlaw1501 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload!!
@MightySheep
@MightySheep 10 жыл бұрын
That kid at 31:05 talking about how Scottish people are mistreated / bullied by English people in the streets of England made me laugh, where on Earth is this coming from? I'm from England and it wasn't until this recent SNP rise in popularity that it even occurred to me that England and Scotland are 2 different countries, my brother moved north to Scotland and I drive up there to visit him sometimes, along the way it's the same landscape, the same people, the same language, it doesn't even occur to me that there is a line somewhere on the map I wish people would stop listening to that Salmon guy's attempts to divide our country, because what the hell is the reason for it, all it would do is make a small country smaller
@MightySheep
@MightySheep 10 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Assadullah well that is just about the most retarded comment I've read all week, congratz
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Assadullah What a lot of nonsense. Your personal petty nationalism is not a valid substitute for facts. "our accent is more eloquent & spirited compared to the dry soulless accents of most English people." lol "England is the world's 3rd most hated country after Israel & America." Based on what exactly? Is there any evidence for that at all? or did you just make that up as you were typing it?
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Assadullah You are clearly too childish to realise that the sound of an accent is subjective and different people will like different ones. There is no reliable poll that shows England as the most hated country in the world, unless you would care to offer evidence. That's just something Irish and Scottish people say who think their country is the most admired and loved in the world. The UK is often voted one of the most respected nations in the world if you actually bother to look. I seriously doubt you've lived in Scotland you're entire life because if you had you'd know that there are many accents in England. You seem to assume that everyone here talks like Prince Charles. This is childish and stupid. Perhaps you'd care to pop down to Liverpool and hear our accents? You can tell some of us to our faces that we're effeminate while you're here and see what happens to you. Try the same in the East End of London, or Essex, or Middlesborough, or Manchester, or Plymouth and see what happens to you. Good luck with that.
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Assadullah " England is the country that has fought the highest number of wars." then "England the land of the effeminate gimp" so are we violent warriors OR wimpy girls? Make your mind up!
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Assadullah You sound like you have some deep-seated personal issues that are manifesting themselves as predictable and infantile stereotyping of 'the English. I suggest you get out more - who spends their Friday night indoors writing childish comments from behind a computer? ...and perhaps go and see what England is really like for yourself. Just for your information - almost every country on that list has 'beef' with dozens of other countries itself. It's a peculiar conceit, unique to the Scottish and Irish, that leads to the idea that England is literally the most hated country on Earth. It shows an extraordinary narrowness of mind to think that those who've suffered at the hands of China, or Japan or Spain over the centuries would give a shit about 'England' Another point, which I seriously doubt you have the intelligence to know, is that many of the most aggressive British colonialist in Africa and the Asian Subcontinent were Scotsmen - but I guess that doesn't fit your pathetically simplistic and distorted view of Britain does it?
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 жыл бұрын
I am Northern Irish. I have lived in England for 14 years. Yes I had big problems with ignorant yobs initially because I lived in a tough housing estate but I have never tarred 54 million English people as one and the same LONG LIVE THE UNION
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 жыл бұрын
bighands69 The United Kingdom is a country. Scotland is part of the United Kingdom.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 жыл бұрын
bighands69- Do seperatists really expect people to stand by and watch their country torn apart? Ask an American how they would feel if California seceded or a Frenchman if Brittany broke away.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 8 жыл бұрын
+Centrist Philosopher States of America aren't countries unlike Scotland and Wales and England. US states are prohibited from succeed it was all settle when the traitor hillbillies in the South the confederates tried to do it 1861.
@lwinklly
@lwinklly 11 ай бұрын
This debate was incredibly interesting, but there's a new wave of 16-17 year old voters (which I'm a part of) today. I would love to see another session like this 10 years later in 2023.
@lwinklly
@lwinklly 11 ай бұрын
We need to grow support for independence. I want to find those damn aliens.
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 11 жыл бұрын
I live in Glasgow and when England is playing Scots are happy to watch and happy for any English person to cheer...I live in Glasgow and I've never experienced anything like you hint at in a shitty way. You need to remember a city like Glasgow has English all over the place...Scots absorb a hell of alot of English culture--much more than the other way about which is why it is the Scots who are completely at ease with Englishness--you can't say it's the same the other way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@davidbroadley126
@davidbroadley126 Жыл бұрын
Do u mean rangers supporters
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead Жыл бұрын
@@davidbroadley126 no
@davidbroadley126
@davidbroadley126 Жыл бұрын
The lowland scot s helped the english to slaughter the highlander s
@davidbroadley126
@davidbroadley126 Жыл бұрын
U dont know your history and glasgow were slavers
@davidbroadley126
@davidbroadley126 Жыл бұрын
William off orange had the McDonalds slaughtered in there beds
@WakeupMEDlA
@WakeupMEDlA 9 жыл бұрын
44:08 - fantastic point, completely sums up the cynical operations of the SNP
@Balenza345
@Balenza345 9 жыл бұрын
How thick are the scots sepradists? They want independence from the UK and have shown themselves as out and out racists against the English in the past few weeks and then brand ukip as racist for wanting independence from the eu.
@DaveTerrasidio
@DaveTerrasidio 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a politically left leaning Scot and a proud Brit. The Nats can gtf out of this island and create their own little "socialist" paradise in the Arctic if they don't like being British. It's a fact, going back round about a thousand years, yes, 1000 odd years, way before we made it official in 1707. Scottish and Anglo-Saxon, then Norman, kings and nobility had intermarried all throughout that time period which is why King James VI of Scotland became James I of England. Any wars and battles between us, hundreds of years ago, can best be characterised as an occasional family feud. Family being the operative word. We are all the same people on this island, with certain wee cultural differences (haggis, tartan, bagpipes, Morris-dancing & what-have-you), but the same people at the basic cultural and genetic levels. Also ask yourself if you think white British implies a narrow range of cultural diversity. You'd find that the Roman, Germanic, Norman and Viking invasions of the original Celtic population have, over thousands of years created a fascinatingly diverse definition of what it is to be 'white British', or a native of these islands.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 3 ай бұрын
You're no Scot. No proud Scot would willingly hand their democratic voice to their neighbours. The same country our ancestors fought and died to defend us from.
@mickdillon1964
@mickdillon1964 4 жыл бұрын
35:15 - the real questions we need to be asking
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
Galloway was not lying at all, he has an opinion and has a side but he wasn't lying. It's ridiculous that Scots that don't live in Scotland can't vote, will they never be going home? Do they have family who live there who will be affected? Plus having lived out of Scotland it breaks the Jingoistic propaganda grip to think clearly about the issues rather than emotionally. If you are Scottish you should have a vote! All scots living abroad after all will have their situation changed overnight.
@stevoid99
@stevoid99 10 жыл бұрын
George Galloway, 25 mins in - speaks for me, says it all. Top man,
@woolfy2001
@woolfy2001 10 жыл бұрын
Ask Galloway that if he thinks that the union of Great Britain is so good will he then campaign for Eire to give up it's independence and come back into the Westminster fold.
@stevoid99
@stevoid99 10 жыл бұрын
Eire got its independence, and the Irish are content. Apart from the UK reneging on the counties in the north that is
@woolfy2001
@woolfy2001 10 жыл бұрын
My point is Galloway supports Eire being free from Westminster rule but not Scotland I will reiterate if The union and being run by Westminster is so good why is he not going over to Eire campaigning for Eire to come back under the Westminster fold. The reason on his part is purely sectarian as he has said that the Catholic minority would in his opinion be persecuted in an independent Scotland which is nonsense. I will say again he is a hypocrite and a champagne socialist.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Wilson Ireland is different it was oppressed and occupied it culture is different to rest of Britain unlike Scotland who was never occupied or oppressed by England Ireland was.
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 11 жыл бұрын
What comments and what city or town did you hear them.
@Noobsaibot21
@Noobsaibot21 11 жыл бұрын
As someone in Ireland, I can tell you that you will have to have the Euro if you want to be in the EU. Barosso himself has said it. And if you want to be in the EU, why bother voting for independence? You wont have it. Scotland has enough resources to survive outside the EU - Our fishing waters alone are worth more to the EU than we get back from the EU. The same is true of Scotland. Scotland will likely look like Ireland if it votes out and that isn't good - trust me I'm living the "EU dream"
@Myndir
@Myndir Жыл бұрын
Scots can just accept immigrants. There is lots of space to build housing in Scotland. I visited a few years ago and it was mostly empty.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 6 ай бұрын
@@Myndir did you not wonder why????
@john81286
@john81286 9 жыл бұрын
YES.
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 11 жыл бұрын
When the Bagpipes sound, you know all about...the pipes can shatter even the stoniest of hearts.
@fusionsuper34
@fusionsuper34 10 жыл бұрын
YES to SCOTLAND for INDEPENDENCE!!!!!
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 6 ай бұрын
How's it going?????
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 3 ай бұрын
@@polaris7122 Quite well. Current support for staying in the union, in Scotland, is 47%. Down from 55% a decade ago. The union is well and truly cooked. And a time will come when we get a referendum, and when we do, the UK is dead as a project.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 3 ай бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman hahaha, oh how I wish you were right, but you're just another deluded loon!
@jen_wren_x
@jen_wren_x 4 жыл бұрын
Classic Nigel Ferrage and George Galloway 😂😂😂
@Nightfire1
@Nightfire1 9 жыл бұрын
Most interesting point of the debate 35:14
@megzah
@megzah 11 жыл бұрын
hope you got rory bremners show too ;)
@darrenkoolman4520
@darrenkoolman4520 11 жыл бұрын
True
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 11 жыл бұрын
No I was referring to the apathy more than the "emotion". Emotions can be manipulated and in 2014 you will witness it BIG TIME!!!!! Remember Scotland ending the political union will be a massive event in history.
@DemonetisedZone
@DemonetisedZone 2 ай бұрын
Younger audience is more clued up about this threat than your typical Normy Dullard
@linoma57
@linoma57 10 жыл бұрын
As a Scot I have always been shown respect from English people.
@FirstMinistersQandA
@FirstMinistersQandA 11 жыл бұрын
Within one minute, you're insane Phil haha
@nudgexs
@nudgexs 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Angus got voted out soon after the ref😅
@chrysalis72
@chrysalis72 10 жыл бұрын
Scottish Independence, YES, YES, YES !!
@kealyc1
@kealyc1 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, but outside the EU, and with our own currency. Anything else is not independence. Unfortunately, the SNP want to drum Scotland into a currency union and then into the undemocratic EU. This is not a real independence referendum.
@Blanco2015
@Blanco2015 10 жыл бұрын
it will be regrettable. Sadly.....
@kealyc1
@kealyc1 10 жыл бұрын
Both Salmond and Sturgeon have lied about whether Scotland can actually remain independent after it has joined the EU. They know damn well that it cannot. They'll say anything. They are both suffering from a blinkered rationality "we want a yes vote, so we must believe that Scotland can retain is independence after joining the EU." Thye're kidding themselves and the scots.
@kealyc1
@kealyc1 10 жыл бұрын
Phil K Phil, if the UK government did not send £53 million a day (£19.3bn a year) to the EU, then Westminster would have the money to properly finance Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The money is flowing in the wrong direction. I remember there was a treaty between England and Scotland from 1707, known as the Act of Union, which says that the union should be an equal partnerhsip. Westminster cannot fulfill its financial obligations under that treaty, because Westminster is obliged to send the money in the wrong direction. Brussels is the bloodsucker, not Westminster. That's why we're having this idiotic indy debate in the first place. Let's stay out of the EU, and build a better UK, more federal.
@woolfy2001
@woolfy2001 10 жыл бұрын
Phil K There is no subsidy.
@iambehindthemirror
@iambehindthemirror 10 жыл бұрын
Wake up Scots, you don't need UK, you don't need EU. What countries are the most successful and rich? Switzerland and Norway -- they are not members of EU, they are independent.
@iambehindthemirror
@iambehindthemirror 10 жыл бұрын
***** Wrong, all natural resources contribute about 13% of GDP to Norway's economy. Without oil and gas they would be about as rich as Sweden. Also they can import anything they want, EU doesn't forbid buying and exporting their goods to countries that are not part of EU. Stop perpetuating stupid myths.
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
iambehindthemirror "Wrong, all natural resources contribute about 13% of GDP to Norway's economy" Hydrocarbon products make up 60% of Norwegian exports. Not sure where your 13% natural resources figure came from.
@iambehindthemirror
@iambehindthemirror 10 жыл бұрын
tommyboomboom GDP and exports are two totally different things.
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
iambehindthemirror I realise that. But I was just remarking that if hydrocarbons make up 60% of exports, Norway would need one enormous public sector for natural resources to only create 13% of gdp
@doonthepan
@doonthepan 10 жыл бұрын
guys lighten up/ the issue is not economic not political. it is the NATION. the nation of Scotland. the nation is the question . the nations independence , a nations right to be independent. All other issues are secondary waffle . you commenters are forgetting the importance of the issue. Independence is a once in a lifetime fundamental right for any nation. if the people vote it to be so then it is to be accepted and established. The political issues the parties will come and go as they always do. independence will be a long term lifetime vote. political parties and the economics will be what they will be. they are secondary to the question of independence. the people choose the other issues follow not the other way around. .
@Counttom90
@Counttom90 10 жыл бұрын
never been a fan of galloway, but made some good points here
@ReunitePeace777
@ReunitePeace777 11 жыл бұрын
How dare they boo George Galloway!
@CM1032
@CM1032 11 жыл бұрын
Aye, seems like it, my temperament got the better of me ;)
@martindornan1667
@martindornan1667 6 жыл бұрын
George Galloway lied when he said that Ukip has a substantial amount of support in Scotland. They have never had substantial support in Scotland. George Galloway political party Respect has no support in Scotland. Yet the biased BBC in a yes no referendum has a majority for no on the panel and excludes politicians who do have MPs and MSPs in Scotland the liberals and the green party. Nigel Farage hid in a pub in Edinburgh because a group of students protesters who have a democratic right to protest did not like Ukip and Nigel Farage. To suggest that the SNP did this is a lie.
@rossshand4385
@rossshand4385 5 жыл бұрын
There's a right to protest people but not to harass and intimidate them. Harassment and intimidation are not only of questionable legality, they are bad for democracy; they allow majorities to silence dissent.
@nathans1856
@nathans1856 4 жыл бұрын
More Scottish people voted for Brexit than they did for the SNP
@lllleeds
@lllleeds 11 жыл бұрын
Well I think the NO vote won that debate in all honesty.
@JohnLewiz1
@JohnLewiz1 11 жыл бұрын
Need links to the parts where Nigel Farage speaks lol
@darrenkoolman4520
@darrenkoolman4520 11 жыл бұрын
Wallace and Bruce might've been hundreds of years ago, but they weren't myth. They were real people who died for what you scoff at now. When Ireland kicked your British asses to gain our independence, we drew on our long history for inspiration too. This "state" we're in is just a blip in our history. The whole world's in recession. We'll recover as always. But, I promise you, even if our country sank into the abyss, the last thing we'd give up is our sovereignty
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
My Dad died 12 years ago, so I don't think he is worried about his job. and it's not about anybody "coming" anywhere, I have been on the end of plenty of racism in my life it is not easy being a "foreigner" ahich I have been a long time, so I know from personal experience what it is like. This is about being able to make your own decisions.
@AllysWorld05
@AllysWorld05 7 жыл бұрын
Anas Sarwar accurately predicted the future around 52 minutes. Arming the rebels led to an escalation in fighting and created a proxy war between the west and Russia. Wow.
@harperonline
@harperonline 11 жыл бұрын
As an Englishman I say let Scotland determine their own future, simple. If it goes wrong it's their fault, if it goes well it's their credit. I don't understand what the big deal is.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 жыл бұрын
31:50 'Us and them' Typical nationalist mindset
@alanreid9385
@alanreid9385 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack The Film Fanatic drivel
@alanreid9385
@alanreid9385 3 жыл бұрын
Of course it is the nationalist mindset Westminster does not care about Scotland only its resources so it was very clear that the union means nothing to English nationalists.
@TK-UK
@TK-UK 10 жыл бұрын
Question Time. It's time for some answers!
@AreopagiticanEco-Nationalist
@AreopagiticanEco-Nationalist 11 жыл бұрын
The same reason I don't want to see a 16 year old prime minister, they're too inexperienced at that young age.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 3 жыл бұрын
Farage nails it at 36.20..If Scotland adopts EFTA as an alternative to EU membership and the formation of a new Scottish currency freed from Sterling they will rout a Indyref 2..
@MM0SDK
@MM0SDK 10 жыл бұрын
i cant believe im hearing this. 27:40. Condoning the acts of oppression by Glasgow citizens, suggesting it was right for Nigel Farage to have to be locked in a pub, due to local threats of violence... because in the area where his life was in danger, people vote "Yes". The fitting words muttered by Nigel Farage, "you're more dangerous than I thought".
@DD-wx4jc
@DD-wx4jc 2 жыл бұрын
All I saw was a traitor hiding in a pub. Hiding from a righteously pissed off local citizenry.
@1987djm
@1987djm 10 жыл бұрын
35;16 Hahahaha Aliens?wtf that must of been a bet!
@jimmy2k4o
@jimmy2k4o 10 жыл бұрын
Something about David Dimbleby makes me feel safe and secure :) I like him to record a serious of audio books of childrens stories that i can listen to as I fall asleep.
@stevebbuk
@stevebbuk 3 жыл бұрын
I can't really see him narrating the Noddy books..
@MrSelidor7
@MrSelidor7 11 жыл бұрын
23 countries use the Euro. Greece and Spain are small players even within the Eurozone. They have about the same weight to the Euro as Bognor Regis does to the GBP. Want to make any comments about how Germany is doing economically?
@ZooScott
@ZooScott 11 жыл бұрын
What was that television show he was in , was it big brother .
@VasSagar
@VasSagar 10 жыл бұрын
George Galloway is wrong, the journalist is right.. 'London ranks top in the world - ahead of Tokyo and New York - for the number of multi-millionaires, although it also has some of the worst child poverty rates in the UK. The capital has 4,224 multi-millionaires - classed as individuals with net assets of $30m (£19m) or more excluding their primary residences, according to analysts Wealth Insight. It puts the number of dollar millionaires at 281,000 or, in other words, a staggering one in 29 Londoners.'
@vikingfortiesfaeroes
@vikingfortiesfaeroes 11 жыл бұрын
Personally, I like the herd mentality when it comes to attacking the Daily Mail.
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
All Scottish people living abroad would need to re-establish their legal position, all companies would need to change their business practices. Goods from England would now be imports and goods sold to English companies and people exports everybody would need new customs and VAT arrangements. New driving licences new car registrations, everything basically would have to change. It would be a massive upheaval for little or no benefit.
@marcsabates4902
@marcsabates4902 10 жыл бұрын
SAOR ALBA !!
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
Well because that creates problems. You can go wherever you want but that is not the issue the issue is, moving your entire life and living somewhere else, that is totally different from visiting on Holiday, where have you lived? I have live in France, Belgium, Holland Switzerland, Germany and Scotland, so what is your experience?
@komaki119
@komaki119 10 жыл бұрын
If Scotland leaves the union before the UK leaves the E.U you will be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Scotland needs to leave the E.U and then if the people want it leave the UK. but if Scotland stays in the E.U it will strangle Scotland to the point of total dependence on the E.U, some bizarre form of independent sovereignty that is.
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
I haven't been swept up in anything, because I am not steeped in the emotion that is being generated, I witnessed it for a while when I was briefly in Scotland recently and it is frightening, the TV is full of lies and spin it is incredible, I was with people who watched a lot of TV and I saw much more than I usually would and I was gobsmacked at how blatant some of it was and how the people didn't seem to notice. What's the plan? There is no plan, it's all emotion !!!
@MrSelidor7
@MrSelidor7 11 жыл бұрын
It hasn't failed. It is ongoing, just like life. The Euro is just over 10 years old. The US Dollar and the GBP have both had more difficult times in their past than the Euro is having now. And if the Euro is a "failed currency" why is it still within 80% of its highest point against the GBP?
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 11 жыл бұрын
YES the emotion that is being used in this is FEAR!!!!!!! That's the one they want you to take to your heart!!!!!---I can't be denied ! I WILL VOTE YES. They can shove their fear up their arse!!!!
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 6 ай бұрын
How's it going????
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 6 ай бұрын
@@polaris7122 it's going fine thanks.... How are you, are things going good...where are you from... let's have a little chat.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 6 ай бұрын
@@cauliflourhead I don't chat with 'LOONS' the description of your head sums it up!
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 6 ай бұрын
@@polaris7122 the fear has got to you, it's OK, good luck.
@kkwillsaveus
@kkwillsaveus 10 жыл бұрын
Angus Robertson patronises Galloway and Farage, saying they can't possibly know about Scotland, because they don't live there, but goes on to criticise the Iraq War. Presumably, according to his own politics, he can't do so because he doesn't live in Iraq. Not that that was the most ludicrous thing he said all night.
@rabgiannelli9866
@rabgiannelli9866 10 жыл бұрын
it does not cause conflict, it divides power and avoids totalitarianism. What it creates is a more genuine democracy. On each side of the border, each individual will have their vote represented better. There is no possible situation where the divide of the union could result in conflict. We live on the same island, our defence interests will be the same, and wont involve fighting each other but cooperation. What will happen is greater control over our own taxes and public spending. vote yes
@zoniczedro
@zoniczedro 10 жыл бұрын
I see ^
@Spacepope3k
@Spacepope3k 10 жыл бұрын
Cameron is a Scottish surname isn't it?
@droiyan
@droiyan 11 жыл бұрын
Pfft George Galloways eyes when David Dimbleby said Anas Sarwar. If looks could kill.
@zoniczedro
@zoniczedro 10 жыл бұрын
Oki doki then..
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
Right so it's about the Heart and a battle that happened 700 years ago featuring patriotism, but there is no emotion involved....OK.......
@tuckedup
@tuckedup 10 жыл бұрын
i just want to say how good it is to see an audience of 16 year olds and to hear them being far far more eloquent than certain politicians in the world, as for example George Bush
@MrZackattack2010
@MrZackattack2010 11 жыл бұрын
he said they follow National by-elections not devolved assembly by elections
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 11 жыл бұрын
So are you trying to say there is no "emotion" on the no side.
@JSLaighean
@JSLaighean 11 жыл бұрын
Surely the argument about real sovereignty is leaving the EU isn't relevant.The whole point about Scottish independence is self-determination, that the Scottish people are the masters of their own destiny. If the EU is an issue, well then an independent Scotland can make it's own decision on the matter, instead of having Scotland's decision decided by the other 55 million people in the UK.
@Hilit
@Hilit 11 жыл бұрын
The point about London is a classic example of dressing something up to make it sound like something it isn't. Another way to phrase it is: Just under 3% of Londoners have savings+investment+house capital to a value of £660,000. Considering the high house prices in London this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone and I'd wager the figure is similar in another high house price place such as Edinburgh.
@newmanwuk
@newmanwuk 11 жыл бұрын
I wonder if these children realise that if they vote to become ‘independent’ they would probably loose their free university tuition fees. If Scotland became ‘independent’, English students will be entitled to free tuition in Scotland on the same level a Scottish students (under EU law). As the EU does not permit discrimination between ‘home’ students and other EU countries. This means it is very unlikely that the Scottish Government will be able to afford the current level of free tuition.
@Myndir
@Myndir Жыл бұрын
Independence would be austerity turbo: private insurance instead of the NHS, emigration for the young, and tuition fees/graduate taxes for students.
@Philly94M
@Philly94M 11 жыл бұрын
Just returned from Scotland today back to Newcastle and I couldnt help but feel unwelcome, not far from the train station was anti Westminster posters begging for independence ect. Petition signing on the street for full independence. And just a totally anti-English feel in Many places. Overall a lovely place met some nice Scots.
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
Your UK passport would no longer be valid as Scotland would not be in the UK so everybody would need a new passport, and that means everybody, whether they live in Scotland or elsewhere. And that is just a simple thing, the legal complications of almost every business and transaction you can imagine would need to be reorganised the cost would be massive.
@MM0SDK
@MM0SDK 10 жыл бұрын
here we go 31:00 they always say the same. How many years have you lived in England then mate? As a Scotsman? NONE!! The worse you will get from the English mate is a bit of mocking accent in a light hearted fashion. And we didn't even need to bring inaccurate recollections of history from a fictional film; Braveheart.
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
Richard Hunter "Unlike all those completely factual films that you could name presumably." But the English don't base their politics on Robin Hood or King Arthur.
@tcpgblizzard
@tcpgblizzard 10 жыл бұрын
Richard Hunter Too much of this independence lark is people trying to hark back to a bygone time (The Middle-Ages) and using things such as Braveheart the film as a base for their political views. It is pathetic.
@tommyboomboom
@tommyboomboom 10 жыл бұрын
Richard Hunter UKIP aren't running the country. Last I looked they had no seats in westminster.
@tcpgblizzard
@tcpgblizzard 10 жыл бұрын
***** lol, good one.
@tcpgblizzard
@tcpgblizzard 10 жыл бұрын
Richard Hunter What ignorance? I have seen what many Scots think.
@rupertsplinge6082
@rupertsplinge6082 9 жыл бұрын
Has a currency been decided on? We are told that Scotland will be unable to use the English Pound. With a new currency, how will they decide upon a rate of exchange, what will be effect on savings and pensions if Salmond refuses to share the national debt. What country or institution in their right mind would lend money to someone who has no intention of shouldering their responsibilities regarding that debt. Far to many inponderables.
@rupertsplinge6082
@rupertsplinge6082 9 жыл бұрын
John G Not a lot of influence if you are correct. Surely this means that England will control Scotland's monetary policy with the result that Scotland will never be financially independent until they have their own currency
@hibeee95
@hibeee95 9 жыл бұрын
It would be neither in the best interests of Scotland nor the rUK to not allow Scotland to have the pound. Both countries rely heavily on each others trade and Scotland not being allowed the pound would be bad for both economics. An independent Scotland would get the pound. Negotiations would see Scotland look towards the opportunity of having members in the Monetary Policy Committee to ensure any alterations were in the best interests of both economies.
@rupertsplinge6082
@rupertsplinge6082 9 жыл бұрын
Cailean Gall Mr Salmond thinks that it would be in the best interest of Scotland to go it alone that's the whole point of independence. His argument is based around what he perceives to be Scotland's interest and not the interest of the union. With doubts on currency and doubts on EU membership after a yes vote whose interests will be served? He has been asked many times about this currency issue and has yet to come up with a definite answer, the reason being has to be that he has not got an answer and that he will be relying on the good will of the Bank of England and the English government, who at present are not warming to him.In the short term it may not be in the rest of the UK's interest to see an independent Scotland but after a while it would be.No English tax payer's money would be going north of the border and trade would balance out as new markets are found and industry re-locates southwards,when possible restrictions come into force as workers from a country outside the EU try to find work in the rest of the UK as a result of some form of dual currency and tax regime being put in place. A disaster for both sides but because of the industrial size differentials, the rest of the UK would be able to recover much quicker and with less social problems as a result........only my opinion......I am not an economist.......just a worried onlooker. better
@hibeee95
@hibeee95 9 жыл бұрын
Phil Street the currency is certainly an issue. Eu membership is a faulted argument as staying in the UK would face Scotland leaving the EU imminently when a referendum comes due to the great movement in England towards leaving the EU. Scotland's economy is structured differently than England, and, ideologically think very different from England also. Governments we continuously don't vote for, Boris Johnson (more than likely next tory leader) saying less devolved powers and spending in Scotland is worrying from my point of view.
@tommy8ball2007
@tommy8ball2007 9 жыл бұрын
scotland will be able to use the pound for two reasons. First and foremost, if London refuses to allow a currency union it gives scotland the right to refuse a share of the national debt and liabilities. Also if London forces scotland to adopt an alternative currency, it would cost businesses extra millions to do cross border trade. George Osborne would have a tough sell to English businesses.
@AreopagiticanEco-Nationalist
@AreopagiticanEco-Nationalist 11 жыл бұрын
I agree, but that's still no argument for letting children vote.
@ohioiran122
@ohioiran122 11 жыл бұрын
How is Cameron Scottish?
@MrSpookyLover
@MrSpookyLover 11 жыл бұрын
well done guy in the orange after 13:00, these former leaders and politicians deserve to go to the Hague just like Melosevic did.
@cameroncairns2712
@cameroncairns2712 11 жыл бұрын
the UK is the 4th most unequal developed country in the world, which is what she was referring to and is correct.
@AliBeeization
@AliBeeization 10 жыл бұрын
We have way too many divisions in this world! dividing this island causes conflict. It is as simple as that.
@Liam-uh3pr
@Liam-uh3pr 5 жыл бұрын
35:15 😂😂
@somjitleo
@somjitleo 11 жыл бұрын
I laughed when most of them applauded the girl who suggested 16year olds should not have got the vote .
@doctorno7715
@doctorno7715 9 жыл бұрын
Independence for Scotland is madness in so many ways that I struggle to understand how anyone in their right mind could vote Yes. Take away the oil from your mind for one moment and then think about the reality of an independent Scotland run by Sheridan-style socialists. It's a no-brainer unless you are a socialist dinosaur from the last century. No wonder the only international leaders who support an independent Scotland are from basket-case communist enclaves. All world leaders of developed countries want Scotland to stay in the Union - for very good reasons. A break up of the UK means a weaker voice of freedom and democracy because an independent Scotland would become an irrelevance and the rest of the UK may fragment further. We need a strong and united UK to maintain the freedoms that you enjoy to speak your mind without fear of persecution. The hatred of English Tories by some Scots is frankly immature and there are ways to develop better representation of Scottish values using further devolution. It makes sense because we then have the best of both worlds: a Scotland that can set it's own policies and a UK that will provide security and world influence.
@cauliflourhead
@cauliflourhead 11 жыл бұрын
YES but as you know this is all serious now which is what I like. You need to realise that this situation wasn't supposed to happen and as for devo max--the PM has said that it would be inconsistent with the current political union---it's all to play for remember. This for me is about the heart---you can't dismiss the heart!!...and YES I'm sure with the Battle of Bannockburn Anniversary next year---patriotism will feature and Scots will celebrate that historic battle for independence!!!
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 жыл бұрын
Nationalists like to portray it as Tories vs Scotland.... But there can be few people as anti-Tory as George Galloway I don't even particularly like Galloway but he makes vry good point about he dar side of the SNP Independence = DIVISION THAT is the bottom line.
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
Well it's not information, it's logic, if we are not in the EU then foreigners will need a visa or permission to live and work in Scotland, unless you favour open borders, in which case why bother with independence? All Scots working in England or anywhere else would need to rearrange their legal position, as would all foreigners living in Scotland, as all UK treaties would no longer be valid.
@Enavor
@Enavor 10 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that man. I was pretty drunk when I sent that. Apologies.
@christianbarrow7881
@christianbarrow7881 11 жыл бұрын
The EU has Britain as part of its jurisdiction, they're laws regardless of whether Westminster wants to ratify them or not. The fact is though, the EU is responsible for only 8% of our legislation annually. Not this ridiculous figure touted by UKIP.
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
So why worry about independence? If there is no plan to control anything then what exactly is going to change? Nothing is though through, the money, defence, benefits. What about a Soct who has retired to Spain? If there is no arrangement with the EU well no right to stay in Spain. It's not scaremongering, the point is it's not been thought out at all. All UK treaties would no longer be valid, all trade agreements all customs arrangements all travel arrangements passports, etc.
@calvin9999999999
@calvin9999999999 7 жыл бұрын
They only lowered it because young people, apparently, are more liberal and left leaning, so it was only to court votes.
@toppaz79
@toppaz79 10 жыл бұрын
The guy who speaks at 31.08 is exactly the reason the SNP have given the vote to 16 year olds. The sad thing is that many older SNP voters would agree with him.
@pimp29061983
@pimp29061983 10 жыл бұрын
If your country is willing to send 16 and 17 year olds to kill and die in wars, in far off lands for reasons that are they have nothing to do with them they should be allowed to vote. well done SNP.
@Enavor
@Enavor 10 жыл бұрын
A No vote is the end of the Scottish parliament by Westminster.
@belindakennedy
@belindakennedy 11 жыл бұрын
i have no idea what your talking about ,did u read my comment?..simply put i said we can rule ourselfs.:)
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 11 жыл бұрын
I'm Scottish but I live in Holland. The point you are missing is that we will not be in the EU we would have to apply again, so all that would be out. If we leave England and re-join the EU that would be pointless, the EU is a bigger problem than the UK. And all these things you think are not a problem add up, like I say embassies security, admin, borders everything would need to be changed, it would be enormously complex for no benefit.
@mrnaughtycat
@mrnaughtycat 8 жыл бұрын
Would you like me to be the cat
@Kala9434
@Kala9434 11 жыл бұрын
dimbleby said the Audience was split 50/50 on independence for scotland. So the audience are vetted then? Wondered why they always seem top heavy with Labour voters. .
@haggismuncher429
@haggismuncher429 11 жыл бұрын
The answers do not make sense most of the time if you really listen.
@JohnJohnson-uw8dm
@JohnJohnson-uw8dm 11 жыл бұрын
The Russians, Americans and Spanish had all used concentration camps before the Irish used them in South Africa.
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