Question Time Leaders' Special, 2005

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David Boothroyd

David Boothroyd

4 жыл бұрын

A week before the general election, this extended edition of the debate programme sees Charles Kennedy, Michael Howard and Tony Blair being questioned, one after another, by a studio audience in London - the nearest the UK will come to having a US presidential-style debate between the Prime Minister and his rivals.
Transmitted 28 April 2005.

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@svresh
@svresh 7 ай бұрын
“Aliens from the future” *Boris Johnson* That aged fucking superbly
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 4 жыл бұрын
Kennedy was a good man. I joined the Lib Dems on his watch (currently non affiliated) Didn't always agree with his positions but he was electorally capable, firmly retaining the strong third position of the Lib Dems. He was also a man who stuck by his principles esp on Iraq, when it wasn't easy to take that position.
@user-gu1un7pb7k
@user-gu1un7pb7k Жыл бұрын
The discussion starting from 1:17:40 is extraordinary. People basically complaining because they get to see a doctor TOO QUICKLY. Look at the state of our country now because of the Tories and the problems with seeing a GP and compare it to back then.
@ykst6685
@ykst6685 Жыл бұрын
bloody well said.
@DFandV
@DFandV Жыл бұрын
Back then First World problems. Now Third world problems.
@marcokite
@marcokite 8 ай бұрын
lol...under Labour it will be 1,000 times worse
@user-gu1un7pb7k
@user-gu1un7pb7k 8 ай бұрын
@@marcokite you have nothing to base this on. When Labour were in power we were actually a first world country. The Tories have turned the UK into a basket case with crumbling infrastructure, nothing working. It would actually be hard for Labour to do a worse job.
@user-hu1yi8ox9z
@user-hu1yi8ox9z 4 ай бұрын
PFI is crippling a lot of schools and hospitals. Just so Blair and Brown could pretend they didn't increase debt.
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how that graduate guy is angry about having to pay off a £9,000 student fee, whereas every graduate today (myself included) who's paying a fee of up to £27,000 would kill for that original number.
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 2 жыл бұрын
He soon zipped up when Blair stressed how graduates had risen by 5% to 40%. This is why I don't believe Labour when they now say they'll scrap tuitions fees, it's just bait to get students to vote for them, they'll never be scrapped because taxpayers will hit the roof and that number will climb to 80%.
@DFandV
@DFandV Жыл бұрын
​@@Da1Dez Nick Clegg pledge comes to mind
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 26 күн бұрын
The UK seems to get worse and I think it will socially-speaking after this forthcoming election!
@christopherkerr1693
@christopherkerr1693 Ай бұрын
Doctor's appointment in 2 days!?! You're lucky to get one in 2 months now! 🤣
@jordan4547
@jordan4547 4 жыл бұрын
0:07 aliens from the future, boris?
@6421brian
@6421brian 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't spitting image do Johnson with hair that was alive also? Tres spooky!
@dpf2122
@dpf2122 4 жыл бұрын
The audience questions here were of a much higher quality than I've seen in any subsequent Question Time election edition. They were very specific and largely policy-oriented rather than vague social questions or smarmy personal attacks.
@PeterFlanagan0987
@PeterFlanagan0987 3 жыл бұрын
dpf2122 tbh this also has a fair share of dumb qs our standards have slipped completely
@kevinlongman007
@kevinlongman007 3 жыл бұрын
Charles Kennedy actually won more seats in 2005 than Nick Clegg won in 2010.
@DFandV
@DFandV Жыл бұрын
Exactly Clegg actually lost seats. I believe he lost 5 seats in 2010.
@kevinlongman007
@kevinlongman007 Жыл бұрын
@@DFandV Yes Kennedy won 62 seats and Clegg won 57. However Clegg did gain almost one million more votes in 2010 and had a slight gain in the percentage of the vote.
@wessexfox5197
@wessexfox5197 9 ай бұрын
They probably would’ve held the 62 had it not been for the expenses/other scandals involving some of their MP’s, like Mark Oaten in Winchester.
@globaltraveller
@globaltraveller 4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe this was nearly 15 years ago. Where does the time go?
@cbsmmv05
@cbsmmv05 4 жыл бұрын
globaltraveller this was a couple months before I was born and this was a good time Labour was centrist which is its best version in my opinion.
@tig3662
@tig3662 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. I know right? Just amazing to so look back and see how everything turned out. I don't think anyone back then could see Brexit coming and the Conservatives governing the country again.
@ER-ec4uq
@ER-ec4uq 3 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean but it really does look like a long time ago now! Look at the clothes lol. And hard to imagine a leader like Michael Howard ever being elected in this day and age, he's like a throwback to the 70s here.
@andydixon2980
@andydixon2980 2 жыл бұрын
Where it's always gone.
@ceirwan
@ceirwan 2 жыл бұрын
Scary yeah> I was 16 at the time. Forgot how much of a bond villain Howard looked.
@joshuaaaron125
@joshuaaaron125 4 жыл бұрын
Kennedy was the best PM we never had!
@pathughes8902
@pathughes8902 Жыл бұрын
I respected Charles Kenedy but I think Michel Howard was the best PM we never had. He won 33 more seats in the 2005 GE but resigned shortly afterwords having done all the ground word for David Cameron to succeed.
@jackwilliamsmith8734
@jackwilliamsmith8734 9 ай бұрын
@@pathughes8902 I prefer Howard to Hague that’s for sure
@JD-Media
@JD-Media 4 жыл бұрын
The Doctor who political parody took me back.
@lmb3976
@lmb3976 4 жыл бұрын
I miss moderate politics
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 жыл бұрын
Even though Michael Howard would be considered the second coming of Hitler by today's standards.
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Clark Clark nothing by a normal standard. By a sjw standard, every part.
@JD-Media
@JD-Media 4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Clark Clark He's saying that politics is so polarized now that people on the left would be triggered by the more moderate policies of 2005 by comparison even though the manifesto, in reality, isn't really that extreme.
@wessexfox5197
@wessexfox5197 3 жыл бұрын
The boring politics of consensus, of all the main politicians selling Britain down the river to more European federalism, to more foreign wars. Can’t say I miss this era of politics one bit. So called moderate politics is the domain of bland neo-liberal/neo-conservative cowards with no principles. What is “moderate” is also way too subjective and shifts all the time with shifts in the Overton window. So if you opposed LGBT lessons being in the curriculum of state schools nowadays you’d be called “hard-right” “homophobic” and such, opposing such a policy back in 2005 would’ve been considered normal and mainstream.
@naveed210
@naveed210 3 жыл бұрын
@@wessexfox5197 best comment here. “Moderate” politicians always lurch over to the right anyway, that’s after they’ve done their left wing public appearance like Blair & Obama.
@laxeystu8096
@laxeystu8096 4 жыл бұрын
The voters in the audience wouldn't have known that they were coming to the end of 15 years of steady growth, and within two years the economic world was coming to an end.
@laxeystu8096
@laxeystu8096 4 жыл бұрын
Very good programme. Quite a well reasoned debate, and good evidence of how Blair could win a third term even after Iraq.
@BossySwan
@BossySwan 3 жыл бұрын
Kennedy was a good man taken before his time
@wilsonfisk6626
@wilsonfisk6626 3 жыл бұрын
A better leader than his successor and predecessor
@ewangent
@ewangent 3 жыл бұрын
@@wilsonfisk6626 that doesn't say much though.
@elihouse1994
@elihouse1994 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting to see the way people talked and dressed back in 2005. A long way away from the way things are now.
@siongardner1483
@siongardner1483 4 жыл бұрын
How much better way the quality of debate only a dozen or so years ago?
@lockemeup9842
@lockemeup9842 Ай бұрын
You have to give Tony Blair some credit. He knew he was going to be asked some tough questions but he went and took them like an adult. Can’t say that happens often anymore.
@DerekWong967
@DerekWong967 Жыл бұрын
that "graduate" comes off as so thick! Apparently anyone can get a degree now.
@jackwilliamsmith8734
@jackwilliamsmith8734 Жыл бұрын
Howard was so good, especially considering he was wheeled in fast to steady the ship as an experienced pair of hands after IDS’s failed and ineffective party leadership.
@jackwilliamsmith8734
@jackwilliamsmith8734 Жыл бұрын
I do think Howard was wrong on the issue of the Iraq War though
@jackdoesstuff6203
@jackdoesstuff6203 Жыл бұрын
I swear you comment this on every video
@jackwilliamsmith8734
@jackwilliamsmith8734 Жыл бұрын
@@jackdoesstuff6203 so you’ve seen my comments before on other videos featuring Michael Howard. Well at least I’m consistent with this viewpoint.
@wessexfox5197
@wessexfox5197 9 ай бұрын
They’d of done much better in 2005 had they drafted Portillo in as leader, he was still an MP in 2003 and could’ve made the 2005 election much closer in terms of seats than it ended up being.
@jackwilliamsmith8734
@jackwilliamsmith8734 9 ай бұрын
@@wessexfox5197 I agree. Portillo was the best candidate in the 2001 leadership election. He made sense and he was more authentic than David Cameron later on. Portillo failed to make it to the runoff and general membership vote because he was unsuccessful in getting enough support from MPs, either side of the Party. The Europhile wets who had the most socially liberal stances were obviously going to go with Ken Clarke more predominantly. As for the Eurosceptic Thatcherites, they were socially conservative and Portillo’s talk of “modernisation had alienated too many. If Michael Portillo had made it to the final vote, he’d have won easily and then been able to satisfy both sides of the Party going forward. If Portillo as the Party’s leader had been able to warm to a significant amount of the public who had previously disliked him and who had viewed him as too arrogant, he definitely would’ve ran New Labour much closer in 2005 than what Michael Howard did.
@tig3662
@tig3662 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting how Michael Howard received racist claims for wanting better control over immigration, unlike Tony Blair who opened a wave of mass uncontrolled immigration that we have not recovered from to this day. This was 15 years ago. We still have not moved on from the immigration debate unfortunately. I don't think anyone back in 2005 could see the rise of anti immigration parties throughout the Western world. I wish Howard stayed on as leader of the Conservatives. Very sensible man who truly began the Conservatives recovery to power in 2010.
@andypandy4607
@andypandy4607 4 жыл бұрын
A great man and yes he deserved longer.
@mhuusn1447
@mhuusn1447 4 жыл бұрын
@@andypandy4607 and become a blue kinnock? 2 time loser?
@mhuusn1447
@mhuusn1447 4 жыл бұрын
Cameron did not reduce the numbers so Howard wouldn't have done. Both pro EU.
@sebastianharrison5575
@sebastianharrison5575 3 жыл бұрын
He should’ve won
@ciaranmarsh255
@ciaranmarsh255 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianharrison5575 there’s no chance he would’ve won. William Hague or Ken Clarke could’ve beaten Blair in 2005, not Howard.
@laxeystu8096
@laxeystu8096 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the point about the doctors appointments within 48 hours to meet the target (which persists today I think) being news to Blair - funny he didn't know that.
@Minzalin
@Minzalin Жыл бұрын
Now Liz Truss is promising 2 weeks. You can see where this is going...
@nedks11
@nedks11 Жыл бұрын
How do you find these old episodes?
@DBIVUK
@DBIVUK Жыл бұрын
I find them on the VHS tapes and DVD-R discs I recorded them on at the time.
@DFandV
@DFandV Жыл бұрын
@@DBIVUK Nice! Do you have more of these types of political clips?
@harryantino
@harryantino 4 жыл бұрын
Question time - full of biased audiences and incessant clapping even back then.
@kaga_me
@kaga_me 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏
@harrypainter7472
@harrypainter7472 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@martingoldberg8510
@martingoldberg8510 2 жыл бұрын
The bias against Howard by the audience and Dimbleby is disgusting. There is also great irony in that woman whining about Blair being called a Liar given the public perception of him nowadays.
@ceirwan
@ceirwan 2 жыл бұрын
Why was it disgusting? Blair came under plenty of flak as well.
@harryantino
@harryantino 3 жыл бұрын
Christ, Charles Kennedy looks like John F. Kennedy in comparison to today’s current mob
@marcokite
@marcokite 8 ай бұрын
do not blaspheme the Most Holy Name
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 4 жыл бұрын
Not Blair's best performance. Still three General Election wins.
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 Ай бұрын
You can see him losing momentum in this
@laxeystu8096
@laxeystu8096 3 ай бұрын
Michael Howards rhetoric on immigration is ahead of its time really
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 26 күн бұрын
Things would've been different in Britian if he won this election.
@ellibod1
@ellibod1 3 жыл бұрын
Blair getting boo'd.. irony
@JamesA4
@JamesA4 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular view perhaps, but the early 2000s were a weird period. It's strange to watch this, this was the first election campaign I can remember. Britain was facing such an identity crisis back then, just look at how vocal parts of the audience are focused on how bad Britain allegedly is, just look at the raging incoherent 'asylum seeker' calling Howard "Hitler" - it's quite excruciating to watch in places. Oddly enough that same 'asylum seeker' enthusiastically applauds Blair talking about the Iraq War. :S Thank God for Brexit, and the end of the chronic national self-doubt which came after the Iraq War.
@tig3662
@tig3662 4 жыл бұрын
You can certainly see how the immigration debate began to take off under Blair's government in the early 2000s. I remember the growing immigration concerns back then and I would not one day believe they'd eventually lead to the rise of right wing parties. No surprise there considering it was Blair's government who welcomed in so much immigrants that our immigration levels rose so high and have never recovered.
@adorabasilwinterpock6035
@adorabasilwinterpock6035 4 жыл бұрын
2005 was the mid 2000’s not the early 2000’s
@charlesottowilliamwade5328
@charlesottowilliamwade5328 2 жыл бұрын
It's even worse now
@user-gu1un7pb7k
@user-gu1un7pb7k 8 ай бұрын
Thank god for Brexit where our public services are worse, trade is worse, prices of food is worse. Our country is a basket case, but at least we don't have any self doubt anymore! (Whatever that empty platitude even means)
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 Ай бұрын
‘Thank God for Brexit’ Oh yeah, that went swimmingly.
@lordofreality
@lordofreality Жыл бұрын
36:50 Sounds familiar??
@DFandV
@DFandV Жыл бұрын
18 years later. The Tories are saying the same. But nothing about school discipline and couldn't care about hospitals if it ain't privatised.
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 26 күн бұрын
​@@DFandVExactly! Plus Labour are still saying the same things, nothing about unaffordable housing, zero hour contracts or their vision on how to handle AI!.... These are things people are worrying about, since education needs an update with AI now on the rise!
@wimblewomble21
@wimblewomble21 4 жыл бұрын
39:50 that was the kind of moment that enabled brexit
@Supernova-mp5uh
@Supernova-mp5uh 3 жыл бұрын
Why? They were talking about asylum seekers and refugees
@davidjonmoxleyskipp230
@davidjonmoxleyskipp230 3 жыл бұрын
Supernova Because we can't save the whole world. We need to help out the homeless on our streets, our army veterans, all of us suffering with our mental health, and our own hospitals, before we are able to help other countries!
@zexal4217
@zexal4217 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidjonmoxleyskipp230 Seems the current government can't even do that what with having to be forced by a footballer to even feed hungry kids.
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 Ай бұрын
26:09
@jackwilliamsmith8734
@jackwilliamsmith8734 Жыл бұрын
That “asylum seeker” was chatting such nonsense and was so ungrateful. He was quite appalling and so disrespectful calling calling Michael Howard “Hitler” and he had the audacity to imply that we shouldn’t allow Michael Howard to be in government. This is a democratic country and that individual from the audience would ban opposition would he?
@sidevans1
@sidevans1 3 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to hear from the people whinging about the NHS at Blair and what they thought of it now. eight months would be a good wait these days after the tories have trashed it.
@marcokite
@marcokite 8 ай бұрын
Labour trashed the NHS decades ago
@Supernova-mp5uh
@Supernova-mp5uh 3 жыл бұрын
it's incredible how uncomfortable Michael Howard was around ordinary people (like many Conservative politicians). Easy to sense by this debate he was going to lose that election
@BossySwan
@BossySwan Жыл бұрын
Something of the night about him
@pathughes8902
@pathughes8902 Жыл бұрын
It was lost but 33 more Conservative seats were gained. A start in the right direction.
@paulb1311
@paulb1311 10 ай бұрын
He’s not uncomfortable at all
@ken-ip4ih
@ken-ip4ih 6 ай бұрын
Michael Howard was too early for his time. All his points on immigration today would have people giving him a standing ovation
@adamfull3181
@adamfull3181 5 ай бұрын
First 0:17 seconds 😂
@cbsmmv05
@cbsmmv05 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone like this video so it can get more likes than the Tories got seats in this Election.
@CG-or1re
@CG-or1re Жыл бұрын
forgot how poorly the british people understood the iraq war. i'm still 50/50 on the issue, there are strong arguments each way.
@JoshuaMSP1995
@JoshuaMSP1995 Жыл бұрын
If you're 50-50 on it, it just shows how poorly you understood it.
@marcokite
@marcokite 8 ай бұрын
if you're 50/50 on it then you must have a very, very poor understanding of it
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 Ай бұрын
Are you American?
@pov_music
@pov_music 4 жыл бұрын
Peepewwwl
@TheTomster333
@TheTomster333 4 жыл бұрын
Lib Dems always producing gr8 leaders
@BendmydickCucumbersnatch
@BendmydickCucumbersnatch 4 жыл бұрын
Except Vince Cable, Ming Campbell and Tim Farron.
@TheTomster333
@TheTomster333 4 жыл бұрын
@@BendmydickCucumbersnatch No way Vice and Tim were good clearly a tory voter here
@thotsi
@thotsi 4 жыл бұрын
must be joking haaahahahahahahahaha
@trollop_7
@trollop_7 4 жыл бұрын
Swinson has a sweet rack and she knows it.
@thotsi
@thotsi 4 жыл бұрын
@@trollop_7 i bet swinson smells fucking dreadful
@cbsmmv05
@cbsmmv05 4 жыл бұрын
In 2019 Michael Howard would of made a great Prime Minister in this politically correct nonsense of today.
@tig3662
@tig3662 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Would have been a fantastic leader today and back then. I remember the reaction from people regarding his immigration policies in 2005. Sadly our country's debate around immigration has not improved - even 15 years ago you couldn't mention the word immigration without being called a racist. There's nothing wrong with controlling immigration. He set out good policies such as improving discipline in schools, better policing, cleaner hospitals, fixing our youth, etc (all things that were massive problems under Labour). If Labour had a weaker leader I think Michael could've easily won.
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Cameron was a disaster.
@michaelheeheejackson7255
@michaelheeheejackson7255 4 жыл бұрын
great man, however a just slightly useless politician
@andypandy4607
@andypandy4607 4 жыл бұрын
I liked him
@wimblewomble21
@wimblewomble21 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. Years later he proved to be as much of a flip flopper as the rest of them
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