Quick And Dirty Guide To Active Radar Missiles

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Tim's Variety War Thunder

Tim's Variety War Thunder

Күн бұрын

A quick and dirty guide showing you the basics about the new active radar missiles just added into War Thunder!
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AIM-120A, AIM-120B, AAM4, Derby, MicaEM, Pl-12, R-77, RB99, R-Darter

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@BlackHawkBallistic
@BlackHawkBallistic 9 күн бұрын
Inb4 an update tomorrow changes half these things per the usual from the snail 🤣
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 9 күн бұрын
See - we joke about this - but TRUE FKN STORY HERE : The mid-day update that "fixed" the datalink numbers on a few planes, including the Mirage 2000 (from 2 to 4) I used in the later half of this vid, posted AS I WAS UPLOADING THIS VIDEO!! ... I had to cancel the upload, get a new screenshot/graphic for the radar, and re-record that audio bit because the snail changed something AS I WAS FKN UPLOADING!!!!! .... the curse is real folks, its fkn REAL ! !
@BlackHawkBallistic
@BlackHawkBallistic 9 күн бұрын
@@TimsVariety that's hilarious, it seems like every technical video something like this happens, it may be because you're so quick getting the videos out you beat gaijin to the punch on their bug fixes. I hope you never buy lottery tickets Tim 🤣
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 9 күн бұрын
@@BlackHawkBallistic ... funny story about my experience with lottery tickets .. but I'll save that for another day ..
@jaydenblain3599
@jaydenblain3599 6 күн бұрын
@@TimsVariety i actually hope they change the whole system of guidance on the radar scope. its too clustered. the timer should count down to time to activation/pitbull, and then when it reaches 0 and goes active, the timer changes to time to impact. or maybe a new piece of HUD near the radar that shows those things. because its very hard to get an idea when my missile is self sufficient and im putting myself in danger. going from a dashed line to solid is a bad design choice since the dashed line by definition is solid in some places which makes it hard to tell if its a solid line, or a short section of a dashed line. that and the whole circle around the target makes it very difficult to judge what your missile is doing
10 күн бұрын
we can also call "Maddog" when you fire a fox 3 hot off the rail, meaning as soon as you hit that weapon release button the missile no longer cares about you or needs you, its a strong independent missile who dont need no jet
@finnm.2582
@finnm.2582 10 күн бұрын
The F-14 had a covered ACM Boresight switch that has done that for the AIM-54.
@unlimitedtimez341
@unlimitedtimez341 10 күн бұрын
I think maddog is slightly different, its when you fire it with no lock at all and hope that it picks up a target with its own radar
@KADNemesis94
@KADNemesis94 10 күн бұрын
@@unlimitedtimez341 That is correct Sir
@Micro-Lander
@Micro-Lander 10 күн бұрын
Hoping they add that functionality in game, too much of a cluster fuck to be guiding these things in unlike VTOL VR ​@@unlimitedtimez341
@wapniak666
@wapniak666 9 күн бұрын
Does this work properly in WT? I noticed mutliple times now that If I hard lock someone (no tws), fire ammram and then instantly de-lock enemy, my missile just flies straight and doesn't pick any target
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 10 күн бұрын
7 comments within 1 minute. Holy crap, folks! :-O
@guitar7279
@guitar7279 10 күн бұрын
Banger video
@therat6004
@therat6004 10 күн бұрын
Hell yeah!!
@Razgriz_Swordsman
@Razgriz_Swordsman 10 күн бұрын
We crave for content, father
@Thud105D
@Thud105D 9 күн бұрын
He fell on
@ObusPerduYT
@ObusPerduYT 9 күн бұрын
Bro did not fell off
@AverageWTPilot
@AverageWTPilot 10 күн бұрын
That was the perfect level of detail to go into! Thanks!
@Razgriz_Swordsman
@Razgriz_Swordsman 10 күн бұрын
Since i consider myself to be a visual learner, these examples of how to use the Fox-3 are amazing! Thank you Tim!
@Anti-Villain-Wolf
@Anti-Villain-Wolf 9 күн бұрын
I'd watch a two hour video. Your information and showcasing is always useful. Just wish the smaller matches would pop up a lot more, and make it less likely to kill friendlies. One person said they played I think 20 matches, and only got into one small one. Thanks for the video Tim!
@Hfchgdhijgvv
@Hfchgdhijgvv 10 күн бұрын
Comment for the algorithm. This channel is so underrated.
@Doberman300
@Doberman300 10 күн бұрын
🎉 Activity for the algorithm comment. Also I can't believe you've already got so many planes with fox 3's, that's gotta be record timing.
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 10 күн бұрын
Most of them are temporary rentals from the snail through the content creator program.
@Doberman300
@Doberman300 10 күн бұрын
@@TimsVariety forgot the snail knows you exist
@Yooski
@Yooski 9 күн бұрын
More activity for your algorithm 👍 Keep up the good work
@Trojanponey
@Trojanponey 10 күн бұрын
Hey Tim would you consider doing a video or a segment on notching/chaff usage in this new active radar missile world?
@romandrip9119
@romandrip9119 10 күн бұрын
I love it quick and dirty😉🤣🤣.. Thanks for the video brother!!!
@josephb2280
@josephb2280 9 күн бұрын
I appreciate this video so much, everyone was talking about these and I felt so left out having absolutely zero idea how they worked!
@quinnroberts3309
@quinnroberts3309 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for this. I always feel like I'm messing up when I'm using bvr missiles like this, so this is very very useful for me
@Sagaleon14
@Sagaleon14 9 күн бұрын
My pc died and I can’t play this anymore but I’m here to give views to Tim the goat :^)
@soot.wildfire
@soot.wildfire 10 күн бұрын
Every question i had answered, great vid! Looking forward to the in depth guides too!
@corybrown2197
@corybrown2197 9 күн бұрын
It may be a glitch but I’ve found that despite the 16km lock range listed in the stat card, the actual pitbull range of at least the AIM-120 is 25km. I’ve gotten plenty of cheeky 25km kills. And the radar readout reinforces this. When you launch the missile and it’s too far, it shows an amount of the line to the target being dotted if it’s too far to track on its own. The approximate range that it’s no longer dotted and it’s solid is around 25km or just short of. This was one of the first things I tested, just so I could understand what the new missile UI meant when I launched. And like I said it may be a glitch. But currently. The AMRAAM is going pitbull at 25km
@blanchbacker
@blanchbacker 9 күн бұрын
That’s what I thought, hope they keep it that way. 16 miles is 25.75KM so maybe it’s a typo
@corybrown2197
@corybrown2197 9 күн бұрын
@@blanchbacker would make sense.
@FishyTopic
@FishyTopic 2 күн бұрын
Just got the amraam, what would you say is the best altitude and distance to launch an amraam at an enemy?
@corybrown2197
@corybrown2197 2 күн бұрын
@@FishyTopic depends on the situation and their altitude. In general. You really only want to launch when they are flying towards you. If they are flying around, try to predict when they will end up flying towards you, that will give your missile the best chance of maintaining a lock. Second important thing, you always want to make sure your missile will end up having more energy than is needed to hit the target. This meaning essentially, that by the time it is approaching the target, it is either fast enough to maneuver with the enemy and catch it, or is above the enemy, so that no matter where they go, the missile can lead them, and catch up. Third important thing. Try not to launch at enemy’s surrounded by friendlys, unless you are confident you can hold the lock. Essentially this means there’s two parts of the match that allow you to make effective 25km shots. The beginning of the match, when enemies are the only thing in front of you. And at the end of the match, when everyone’s dead, and there’s less friendlys that might attract your missile. For any 25km shot, you want to lob it. You don’t need to get super high to make the shot work, but I would say a minimum of 3km elevation, and launching while pointing your nose at a 45 degree angle upwards, will result in an amraam that will come down on the target. However, optimal will be about 5km. If you go much higher over 5km you’ll get a vapor trail, and make yourself vulnerable to people that didn’t originally see you on radar. Because now they can see you visually. And of course, the faster you go, the faster the missile will end up going, and the farther it will go. At ALL other times, you want to stay low and defensive during the match. Going up to even 2km can make you an easy target and will get you killed. If people are within 15km of you, they are viable targets, but so are you. At that range, you don’t need to work hard for your missile to reach them. HOWEVER you still want your missile to come DOWN on them whenever possible. This increases the odds of it hitting, and if it misses, it may hit the ground under them, and damage them. A flat trajectory means a miss, an arc means a splash. So let’s say for instance you are on the deck, flying 10km away from an enemy who is also on the deck. What you want to do, is lock them, pull off the deck to get a solid lock, then pop up, again at a 45 degree angle, and launch while in that angle. Then immediately after, pull back down and away to defend. If you stay up and towards them, they can kill you. They will be trying to get you too, so will stay pointed at you, so while you are defending and they are coming at you, your missile is coming down at them to kill them. And if they launch on the deck flat, their missile will be easy to defeat. If an enemy is 15 to 10km away and is off the deck. Too far to drop quickly, then there is no need to pop up. However I like to do it anyway, to give my missile a better chance. And that is mostly all you need to know. There are a lot of variable situations. Like with hills. And if you are high, no need to angle up at enemy’s that are low and close. Just think of the amraam as a spear at all times. There’s an arc to it. And it doesn’t have infinite energy. You have to do specific things to make sure it lands in the right place. Unless you are close, and you can use it more like a sidewinder.
@timwillis4063
@timwillis4063 10 күн бұрын
Wooo thanks! Listening to this while at work.
@DaveMason-iz2bu
@DaveMason-iz2bu 10 күн бұрын
Very helpful, thank you
@uss_liberty_incident
@uss_liberty_incident 6 күн бұрын
Thanks a ton for putting this together. Outstanding info as always.
@slayo710
@slayo710 9 күн бұрын
Love you Tim thanks for being helpful. Nobody else makes this type of video being informative and fun at the same time
@homertorres5900
@homertorres5900 10 күн бұрын
Love your videos man!
@Fffffffffffffffffrfrf
@Fffffffffffffffffrfrf 8 күн бұрын
Greatevideo Tim! Thank you!!
@enterchannelname8981
@enterchannelname8981 10 күн бұрын
sick video, thanks Tim
@Crusher99a
@Crusher99a 9 күн бұрын
Fantastic video as usual. Thanks for getting something out quickly, the introduction of fox 3’s has been crazy.
@PotatoBreadYum
@PotatoBreadYum 7 күн бұрын
thanks tim, was looking for this video. even though i don't have a jet with fox 3 missiles, this will be helpful in the future! as always your videos are the best and so well explained :)
@zachthepizzaguy
@zachthepizzaguy 9 күн бұрын
thank you for the great vid as always!
@Padgeot
@Padgeot 10 күн бұрын
Good video, thank you Tim.
@kpgIRA
@kpgIRA 9 күн бұрын
Tim will see us through these trying times. 🙏
@TheGamegurusChannel
@TheGamegurusChannel 9 күн бұрын
Good refresher. I would love to see maybe some advice on using the Phoenix against the new fox 3s whenever you do your big update video
@cadenlee8780
@cadenlee8780 10 күн бұрын
This was really helpful
@jimbobhootenanny4440
@jimbobhootenanny4440 9 күн бұрын
Thanks tim!
@dotnask0001
@dotnask0001 10 күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for your tutorials to get into the new update.
@hydrogencyanide2493
@hydrogencyanide2493 8 күн бұрын
Great video and guide. Didn't know what Fox 3 meant until I watched this.
@rstebnicki
@rstebnicki 9 күн бұрын
Nice and clean, thx.
@planenerd9079
@planenerd9079 7 күн бұрын
You're an inspiration man
@chillypenguin4449
@chillypenguin4449 10 күн бұрын
AMRAAM go brrrr
@mortexic4939
@mortexic4939 9 күн бұрын
Happy to see a predator drone used as the target at 1:24
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 9 күн бұрын
"I hate that fkn plane...." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld1nddiov5PZYKc.html
@anno-fw7xn
@anno-fw7xn 9 күн бұрын
A how to counter tham would be great! Thanks for you great work
@Zeber
@Zeber 8 күн бұрын
Thanks Tim, you're the best source and go-to on info for these kinds of things. Legend! Gaijin hoping we don't understand, get frustrated and skip to just buy premiums lol.
@ryangilbert2416
@ryangilbert2416 10 күн бұрын
You gonna get me in trouble if someone sees this vid in my search history “ quick and dirty “
@SPACECOWBOY_Hej
@SPACECOWBOY_Hej 8 күн бұрын
Great video with the new info Timothy, your channel is underrated asf
@sagichdochned
@sagichdochned 10 күн бұрын
Hey Tim :) Any Chance you can put the Cockpits also into your Guides in the future? Would be awesome for Sim. Players☺️
@LightningFox512
@LightningFox512 9 күн бұрын
How did I miss this for 9 hours
@Kyoptic
@Kyoptic 9 күн бұрын
Token engagement offering the algo-gods
@frank-7861
@frank-7861 10 күн бұрын
In the missile guide can you include examples and meaning for every symbol, number, and shape in the 3rd person as well as the new cockpit mfd radars? Thank you!
@MrMandown46
@MrMandown46 9 күн бұрын
Tim, if we ever end up in jail together, I will protect you. ♥
@TheBranchez
@TheBranchez 8 күн бұрын
Would you do a full controls video guide? I came back to WT after couple of months of not playing and this is just pure horror at top tier.
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 7 күн бұрын
People ask for it now and then, but going over my personal control setup wouldn't be a lot of help as I use an Elgato Streamdeck and a sort of MFD in addition to my KB and stuff.
@TheBranchez
@TheBranchez 7 күн бұрын
@TimsVariety ahh makes sense. My hopes went up in flames, just now, since you are the go-to guy for WT guides. I should have assumed something like that was the case since you did not do it before. I do not have the patience nor really the idea to set up my own controls and it is much easier to just copy someone else's who put some thought into it and made it work and made it convenient. I adapt real fast, a game or two is enough. So don't judge me 🫣 Anyway, thanks for the response, it is appreciated. Keep up the good work, buddy 🫡
@miquelescribanoivars5049
@miquelescribanoivars5049 10 күн бұрын
I sure love flying stock planes in Top Tier 🤡
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 10 күн бұрын
Its a whole new world of pain & suffering!
@thomaszhang3101
@thomaszhang3101 9 күн бұрын
Can you please do a new review on Red Top missile and Sea Vixen now that it has been changed? Did it get better or worse?
@creepyfishman6858
@creepyfishman6858 10 күн бұрын
Any tips on how to grind out a new jet (specifically the jas39c) without them?
@augustotto4312
@augustotto4312 10 күн бұрын
Could you do a video on squadron vs squadron battles. My squadron would love to help.
@xvll-l1589
@xvll-l1589 8 күн бұрын
More Quick And Dirty Guide 5 min guides please
@ondrejpokluda2877
@ondrejpokluda2877 10 күн бұрын
how is the new update for you? personally i found the balance of performance between nation much closer
@progamerj4ke
@progamerj4ke 2 күн бұрын
Can you clarify about the line that shows when a missile has gone pitbull and the one that shows its had a missile fired at it please? :)
@shaunkelly9053
@shaunkelly9053 9 күн бұрын
What does it mean, shoot down front vs shoot down all aspect?
@homertorres5900
@homertorres5900 10 күн бұрын
Awesome
@Mani_Gamer885
@Mani_Gamer885 10 күн бұрын
I have a question. I noticed the new US AV-8B Plus has Aim-120s as well, but it's radar DOES NOT have a data link section when you check it on X-ray view. Does this mean it can only use Aim-120s with a hard lock when outside the missile's 16km lock range or within 16km with TWS so that the missile leaves the rail hot?
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 10 күн бұрын
Assuming its not an oversight (I haven't looked in datamines or anything before typing this reply), and the Harrier's radar does NOT have a datalink value listed, then I would assume you are generally correct that it could only provide a link to 1 missile at a time (or possibly none, relying entirely on IOG).
@christoffermonikander2200
@christoffermonikander2200 9 күн бұрын
For anyone familiar with European fotball the Derby Air-to-Air missile sounds scary.
@StylesTheMaus
@StylesTheMaus 10 күн бұрын
Hey tim do you think we will get a euro fighter next patch and thoughts on the multipathing nerf seems like top tier is a shitshow right now and pre chaff and notching is pretty tough to pull off Love the content cant wait for more
@wapniak666
@wapniak666 9 күн бұрын
>do you think we will get a euro fighter next patch Not a chance lol, i doubt its gonna be this year
@StylesTheMaus
@StylesTheMaus 9 күн бұрын
@@wapniak666 dont gotta destroy my hopes and dreams like that :(
@RiznNuke
@RiznNuke 9 күн бұрын
Remember Mad Dogging missiles for teh full review
@eliasl332
@eliasl332 10 күн бұрын
Do AIM-120A completely replace the AIM-9M since they have 5 more G overload?
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 9 күн бұрын
Too early to say.
@FlyNfortress
@FlyNfortress 5 күн бұрын
how can you tell when your missile is close enough to rely on its own radar?
@browning2471
@browning2471 9 күн бұрын
Tim, do you think I’m weird? My amraams keep going pit bull when I’m trying to talk to them and I feel like it’s me
@lucasguia6030
@lucasguia6030 6 күн бұрын
idk if it was a mistake or something but the Baz upgrade was missing from the derby list
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 6 күн бұрын
I just double checked - neither of the F-15 Baz models carry the Derby.
@prex2000
@prex2000 9 күн бұрын
might be a good idea to comment that the F-15J(M) can only carry four AAM-4's
@levgorlov3566
@levgorlov3566 10 күн бұрын
Is there any way to dodge them other than notching or cranking?
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 10 күн бұрын
Thats .. a FAR more complicated topic .. and I'll probably do a dedicated video on countermeasures and evasion at some point.
@obamnaprismus
@obamnaprismus 10 күн бұрын
Honestly the only way I've found of dodging FOX-3s is by notching and praying. 50/50 wituation, too; it hits or it misses. You should try that
@Doberman300
@Doberman300 10 күн бұрын
I've had the most luck notching the missile and dropping 1 chaff, wait a few seconds, drop a second chaff, then point your nose up or down a few degrees so the missile is on a different path than you. Basically amounts to turn, chaff, pull. Not hard to do, but when 5 people are closing the gap on you it will leave you slow and facing the wrong way.
@NyanCatMatt
@NyanCatMatt 7 күн бұрын
as someone nowhere near top tier to utilize this guide, 4:45 is actually surprising. wouldn't IFF be able to distinguish, well, friend or foe? even if it's because NATO and Soviet jets can be on the same team, couldn't gaijin just set it up to be "red = bad, blue = good"? maybe it's not that simple? i don't know.
@UnidentifiedGecko
@UnidentifiedGecko 4 күн бұрын
So pretty much every tech tree gets access to fox3s with previous top tiers while Germany gets an f4 😑
@camilorodriguez5602
@camilorodriguez5602 10 күн бұрын
is there any changes to the normal sarhs?? the red circle starts to blink and when i shoot the matra supers on the mirage s4 (event) they seem to always miss, either by exploding mid flight (target still locked) or they misscalculate the target's direction
@wapniak666
@wapniak666 9 күн бұрын
you want to shoot when you have solid red lock not when its blinking
@camilorodriguez5602
@camilorodriguez5602 8 күн бұрын
@@wapniak666
@camilorodriguez5602
@camilorodriguez5602 8 күн бұрын
@@wapniak666 i did some test flights and it may take a WHILE for the red circle to stop blinking because it never did
@wapniak666
@wapniak666 8 күн бұрын
@@camilorodriguez5602 it means you don't have a solid lock and probably need to pick different target
@SpartanGIS2
@SpartanGIS2 9 күн бұрын
When trying to datalink 4 active targets do you have to unlock the target in order to lock another? Im still trying to figure out how to lock a target fire, then lock another. Do I just unlock and manually select a new target?
@pxatm
@pxatm 4 күн бұрын
Put the radar in track while scan mode, select a target, fire, and use the "Select Radar/IRST target to lock" keybind which is on alt-t by default to select a new target, fire again. Do not lock any targets. stay in track-while-scan the entire time and don't ever go to track.
@SpartanGIS2
@SpartanGIS2 4 күн бұрын
@@pxatm thanks for this! I had no idea I could launch while in TWS. Thought I had to lock first before firing.
@pxatm
@pxatm 4 күн бұрын
@@SpartanGIS2 Glad to help! Strongly recommend against locking targets with Fox-3's even if you're only shooting at one guy since the lock tone will give away that you're going to fire. Staying in TWS generally means your target won't turn to the notch.
@SpartanGIS2
@SpartanGIS2 4 күн бұрын
@pxatm at least until the missle goes pitbull I suppose haha. Thanks again! Real big help.
@harrisonsel34566
@harrisonsel34566 5 күн бұрын
How do you tell when the missile goes pit bull on the radar?
@pxatm
@pxatm 4 күн бұрын
That counter next to the weapon selection is a pretty good indication. The radar scope will also display the missile's inertial guidance correction indicator until the missile goes live.
@ThaiLitzki
@ThaiLitzki 8 күн бұрын
I have more fun playing F14 than the new meta... the Aim 54 are insane right now with the mulipathing "gone" My loadout is called the "long yeets" at least two kills per game.
@BloodPlusPwn
@BloodPlusPwn 8 күн бұрын
And so top tier becomes even more fun /s Anyway, here's a comment for the algorithm :)
@DerBlunderMan
@DerBlunderMan 8 күн бұрын
I see Germany suffers as usual with an F4 fighting F15s
@shah1038
@shah1038 7 күн бұрын
Why i can't switch many radar mode😢
@diegodollarhide6663
@diegodollarhide6663 10 күн бұрын
Aren’t the AIM-54A’s also active radar?
@TimsVariety
@TimsVariety 9 күн бұрын
Yes, both AIM-54 missiles we have in the game use active radar homing. I showed them both on the chart early in the vid.
@diegodollarhide6663
@diegodollarhide6663 9 күн бұрын
​@@TimsVarietyOh dang, I missed that on the chart, my bad 😂
@___ty__
@___ty__ 10 күн бұрын
i’m doing my part! (to feed the algorithm by commenting)
@antonmancia2096
@antonmancia2096 10 күн бұрын
Lets go
@immylon4608
@immylon4608 6 күн бұрын
Ok today I got banned for 1 day for teamkilling. Now I know Y my R77 prefer friendly ass than hostile ones.
@MrTefe
@MrTefe 6 күн бұрын
bro help none of my AIM-120 hit. I have F-15C and i use TWS mode and literally every missile misses.
@pxatm
@pxatm 4 күн бұрын
Launch them at targets pointed towards you and don't launch below Mach 1.15 and 30,000 ft if you want reliable hits.
@topaz2821
@topaz2821 10 күн бұрын
👍
@theeradicator110
@theeradicator110 9 күн бұрын
Thats not 100% true there is 1 more ARM missile in the game, the AS.34 AshM on the german premium Tornado.
@NumbersLetters_
@NumbersLetters_ 8 күн бұрын
algorithm
@kiri101
@kiri101 9 күн бұрын
Dropping a comment to see if we can do something about your criminally low views at the start of this update!!
@nakkipate1953
@nakkipate1953 4 күн бұрын
"dirty"
@cmdrTremyss
@cmdrTremyss 8 күн бұрын
These things are too complicated for me.
@blrbgbari
@blrbgbari 10 күн бұрын
first?
@Mikeman94BSGO
@Mikeman94BSGO 10 күн бұрын
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@theangrychicken5026
@theangrychicken5026 9 күн бұрын
Worst update ever, top tier air RB unplayable
@blanchbacker
@blanchbacker 9 күн бұрын
Actually it’s more fun than ever. Try adapting. Or play a different game
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