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Quick Tip 296 - The Difference in Whites

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In the Studio Art Instruction

In the Studio Art Instruction

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@Ravenzpeak
@Ravenzpeak 3 жыл бұрын
After WWII, my dad and uncle started an auto body and re-painting shop. My dad and mom did the re-painting and upholstery and my uncle did the rest. My whole family got lead poisoning, except for me because I wasn't born yet. When dad sanded the cars before repainting, the sander dust got on their skin, hair, clothes, and so it was tracked into the house where the children were. Very sad situation and lasting consequences. Nobody knew the dangers of leaded paint back then, or lead pipes for plumbing, for that matter. Thanks for sharing this video! You're my favorite KZfaq presenter!
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, Ravenzpeak.
@sandrajohnson2489
@sandrajohnson2489 3 жыл бұрын
Over sixty years ago my family lived on a farm and the house was painted with lead-based paint I am presuming. I was about five years old and my sister was about two. For some odd reason, my sister enjoyed licking the walls. I can't recall what happened to the inside of her mouth but my mother had to coat my sister's mouth with that purple Gentian medicine. I know that the medication treats fungal infections like thrush but I don't know if that's what happened to my sister's mouth. I do know that my sister grew up to be mentally imbalanced and maybe the lead paint had something to do with it. Of course she could have just been born that way but she is psychotic. My father was a commercial painter when I was growing up and never wore a mask of any kind. He also smoked and drank. He too was mentally unstable and developed emphysema and died in his sleep when he was in his 60's. I can't believe he even made it to his 60's.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and using lead now, with the knowledge we have; is just irresponsible
@korukiwiarts
@korukiwiarts 7 ай бұрын
This was one of the best demonstration I'd seen in a while about the different types of white. Thanks
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 7 ай бұрын
Have fun with it.
@claudiamendez7907
@claudiamendez7907 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your ART wisdom’s 💚🌈🌹👏🏻🫶🏻👍🏼
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure.
@kathleenwildey2757
@kathleenwildey2757 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison, explained so much! Thank you very much!
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@KayJohnsonArt
@KayJohnsonArt 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful Dianne as always. I have learnt so much from watching your videos. Thank you.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@marlenemeek9030
@marlenemeek9030 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dianne. This was very helpful. I love your steady way of problem solving. Very cool!
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
@gerdavogel5287
@gerdavogel5287 3 жыл бұрын
I love lead white, I am not worried about the toxicity, not planning to eat it or handle without gloves, same applies to the cadmium colours.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Most folks who use lead white feel the same way. There's nothing so beautiful as our individual uniquenesses.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
Lead is way more toxic than any cadmium
@mrsnrub9780
@mrsnrub9780 3 жыл бұрын
This answered a LOT of questions. I go for titanium white 90 to 95% of the time (mainly out of habit). Zinc would actually be VERY handy to have around for the transparency factor. I'm not too fussed about the rest. Brown on the other hand is an entirely different story, brown hues are my obsession lol.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
😊
@nikkiswenson54
@nikkiswenson54 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for illustrating the differences for all of us! Good video!!
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@InLawsAttic
@InLawsAttic 2 жыл бұрын
This really helped! Going through all your tips first, before I do the lessons so all will sink in better. Thanks again!
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 жыл бұрын
If you practice each of them right after you watch, it will stick more easily. I'm delighted you're finding these helpful.
@SimpleManArt
@SimpleManArt Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insightful knowledge, Dianne.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@cuentamedenuevo7399
@cuentamedenuevo7399 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning explanation. Thanks a lot for sharing! 🙏🏻
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@taurusguyblue
@taurusguyblue 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Spain, I'm a little confused about what tonal accents are, I'm a begginner and your tips have being very helpful.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
An accent is simply a small contrast that calls attention, so a tonal accent is a small contrast of value.
@SnkobArts
@SnkobArts 2 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up: That Flake White Sub isn't that close to actual Flake/cremnintz white. I have a tube of Blue Ridge Cremnintz White, and its more transparent and closer to the zinc white as far as the color saturation with the mixture shown in the video. So if you want the transparency but not the brittle aspect, actual flake white is a good option. Just wear gloves if you're a messy painter like me 😅, and also be sure to follow your slow dry over fast drying rule if you're using it in tandem with a titanium white.
@SnkobArts
@SnkobArts 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I looked up the pigments for Gamblin Flake White Sub, as I wanted to see what else they put in it to make it transparent, but they didnt list anything other than titanium white. It can't be single pigment titanium, due to the transparency, so it must be another filler pigment like barite. Barite is super transparent, buff colored, and has that warm undertone. "Filler" sounds derogatory but thats not necessarily bad, you can also call it an extender. Barite + Titanium, that's my edjucated guess!
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding all this. In the long run, it comes down to a personal choice of the artist. But it's always wise to know which pigments and binders are in the paint you use.
@SnkobArts
@SnkobArts 2 жыл бұрын
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Thanks for all your videos! Incredibly helpful, Ive been putting all the ones Ive watched so far to use 😁
@robertchilders8698
@robertchilders8698 2 ай бұрын
In my 85 years, I've never heard of " fast dry over slow dry" rule! PLEASE EXPLAIN !?
@SnkobArts
@SnkobArts 2 ай бұрын
@@robertchilders8698 dyslexia. That is the explanation. lol.
@beatricebiederman7895
@beatricebiederman7895 3 жыл бұрын
That was most helpful. Thank you so much for your lessons.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@lucychia6933
@lucychia6933 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. White is the most used colour. Very interesting lesson.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@alc3781
@alc3781 3 жыл бұрын
Hi great video, there is another but less commonly used white pigment available for oil painting. Pw5 sometimes called porcelain white, might be worth trying. Planning on getting a tube once I've worked down other tubes
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@dianacraddock1721
@dianacraddock1721 3 жыл бұрын
Damn! I should have paid attention to my subscription incomings... I've just ordered 500ml of Zinc white. After watcing this, I realise I should have stuck with Tiatnium, whch I've always used, lol. But hey, adaptability. Thank you so much Diane, your videos are great.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
That's a load of zinc white! 😮😊
@casparurban8730
@casparurban8730 3 жыл бұрын
And i should have bought the Flake Sub
@brucewoll6786
@brucewoll6786 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear and helpful. Thank you. Ruth
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@DAYbreaking_Ideas
@DAYbreaking_Ideas Жыл бұрын
Very informative to help me understand what I needed to buy for gouache. Thank you for sharing.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Enjoy the journey.
@kathleenlindley6157
@kathleenlindley6157 2 жыл бұрын
You spoke of the brush-ability of different white paints, which do you prefer for ease of use and results?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 жыл бұрын
Kathleen, my choice is Gamblin's titanium white.
@robertchilders8698
@robertchilders8698 2 ай бұрын
kathleen, my choice is Flake White!
@d1i9n2a2
@d1i9n2a2 3 жыл бұрын
How I remember: Titanium = The Titan eats the chroma
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
🙃
@nalissa77
@nalissa77 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks again! I looked but didn't see one, did you do a QT for the various blacks?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction Жыл бұрын
Susan, since I use very little black, I'm not familiar with all the tube color options. I can mix whatever black I am seeing with complements, so the only use I have for black in my painting is changing the nature of the hue of another color. (Example: the olive color resulting from black & yellow) My black of choice for that is ivory black.
@nalissa77
@nalissa77 Жыл бұрын
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the reply. :)
@sandrajohnson2489
@sandrajohnson2489 3 жыл бұрын
Great video once again! Now I know why some of my colors look different when using zinc white or titanium white. I do have flake white and had no idea it's toxic. The more you know....
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's how it goes. Thanks for watching.
@boatpeachbed
@boatpeachbed 3 жыл бұрын
How do you keep your paints from drying out? I put mine in the fridge, but yours are too large. Fantastic lesson, as usual.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel, see Quick Tip 115.
@joebathish4799
@joebathish4799 3 жыл бұрын
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction quick tip115
@insanity4449
@insanity4449 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tip. It cleared up a lot of confusion. I use titanium white as my go to but I find it to be very stiff. I add a bit of linseed oil for brushability. Is this a good idea? Do you have any other suggestions as to how to make it more easily “spreadable”?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Adding a bit of linseed oil is just fine.
@soutieprophet
@soutieprophet 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and advice and you have way more experience than a novice like me. But I don't think you're providing a true reflection of different white pigment comparisons in this video as essentially you're comparing different versions of PW4 (zinc white) and PW6 (titanium white) chemical pigments. The flake white sub is still PW6, and not actually comparing the benefits of true lead white (PW1). There are valid reasons why many professional artists still use lead white (e.g. longevity), while acknowledging it's toxicity, and would never use zinc white under any circumstances if they're interested in the archival properties of their pieces.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your argument and do not disagree. My intent here is to give general characteristic comparisons with the most commonly whites by the vast array of artists who watch these videos. I will note that it is not just the pigment that determines the white's characteristic, but the processing of the pigment and the binder.
@LittleMew133
@LittleMew133 2 ай бұрын
For mixing, I use zinc. For bright highlight, I use titanium. Is that a good setup? Since you mentioned that titanium when dried, sinks in - would that make the highlights less highlight-y?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 ай бұрын
Zinc white is a bit more transparent than titanium and it does have a tendency to become brittle with time. Most opaque colors are going to sink in, but you can bring them back by oiling out. See Quick Tip 222. The more opaque a white is, the better it behaves as highlights.
@carmenlegault4041
@carmenlegault4041 3 жыл бұрын
How about Winsor & Newton's Iridescent white? Apparently it would put sparkles on snow. Did not try it yet, but I did buy it.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of additives in paint that add effects, but I respect other's choice to use whatever colors they choose. Personally, it's more fun to create snow sparkle with color techniques.
@crisspeers7526
@crisspeers7526 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dianne, just need point out that you refused the flake white on the tittanium slot, Sorry for being picky,love your videos. Regards, Chris, U.K.
@BlackMagickMike
@BlackMagickMike 3 жыл бұрын
He meant "re-used"
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
I know. I discovered that after the video was produced.
@highphysics3617
@highphysics3617 3 жыл бұрын
Did you just use two lots of flake white,and not titanium,or,am I going a bit nutty?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
I unconsciously said one thing, but meant another. I hope that text insert clarified that.
@therezanicheartes
@therezanicheartes 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to explanation
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 3 жыл бұрын
I have a good one for you Prof: What is Houding. I heard it mentioned by some art lecturer when describing a Rembrandt Portrait of a Monk, and got the impression that it had something to do with atmospheric perspective; alas, a Dutch word that means a whole lot more. I'm looking at you Houdini.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea. The term is not one I have encountered, it is not listed in any of my history books nor does Google produce any results for it. However, then Dutch word "houden" gives us a few more clues ( dictionary.reverso.net/dutch-english/houden ), but still not anything I can hitch to Rembrandt's Portrait of a Monk, unless it had to do with keeping the memory of his son, Titus.
@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 3 жыл бұрын
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction The painting in question was indeed Titus as a monk. I wish I still had a link to that video, alas, the great internet river swallowed it. I will do my darndest to find the meaning and share it with you. Thanks.
@sgortnar
@sgortnar 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , could you please demonstrate how to mix light red colour? If I mix any red with white the result is pink. I don’t want pink but light red though. Thanks, Sonja
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Try adding a bit of a warm color to the mixture. White will cool any color it is mixed into, but we can add that warm back with a bit of warm color. Experiment with which warm it needs to be: a yellow, yellow ochre, cadmium yellow deep, cadmium orange, etc.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
White is a cool color
@dannyyoder6034
@dannyyoder6034 3 жыл бұрын
I once found a need ( or an excuse ) to add a bit of oil to Titanium white, but had no Linseed. I did not want to go into town to an art store ( 80 miles away) so I used diesel. To my amateurish mind I thought..hmmm not bad. Would you know from looks that diesel was used?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel is not refined, containing contaminates that can cause the paint to break down in time.
@123youknowme
@123youknowme 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of white...this may be a crazy question but is there another method for lightening a color without using white so as not to lose the 'color'? It seems to me that white makes the colors less vibrant and more milky looking, which is great is that's what's intended, but I wanted to show the warm reflection of light off of an apple and so I used red mixed with various amounts of white on the apple to make a gradient leading up to the highlight and the gradient was a disappointing milky pink color. The white highlight however looked great. Lol
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Adding while does slightly cool the warmer hues, but if you add a bit of yellow with the white, you can restore that warmth.
@123youknowme
@123youknowme 3 жыл бұрын
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Thank you.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
Yellow and white can help. White cools a color like a blue.
@jmdfineart
@jmdfineart 2 жыл бұрын
Diane - I love your videos and always enjoy and benefit from your informative tips ... -but - .... Flake white is only toxic IF ONE EATS IT ....otherwise - it poses no harm if artists are careful with it .... it will not cause any harm - thanks for all your wonderful videos ;)
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 жыл бұрын
May I add one thing to Flake White's toxicity. A scratch on your hand can absorb the lead. Thanks for watching.
@robertchilders8698
@robertchilders8698 2 ай бұрын
​@@IntheStudioArtInstructionI was wondering why my fingers were turning black and falling off!
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
I really like permalba actually. John Howard Sanden uses it and he’s pretty good, his pictures are in the White House (pun intended).
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 жыл бұрын
For years I've been an admirer of John Howard Sanden's approach to portrait painting.
@a1976a
@a1976a 3 жыл бұрын
I realized that I had bought a vivid white mistakenly. Is vivid white different from that other whites in the video or just a indebendently color ?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with Vivid White. Several companies formulate specialty whites, so I assure the same is true with your Vivid White. What brand is it?
@carmenlegault4041
@carmenlegault4041 3 жыл бұрын
How do you create sparkle on snow with color techniques?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
You can achieve that sparkle using techniques for luminosity as shown in Quick Tip 275. The sparkle shows when there is direct light shining on the snow. If your get the shadows the right value, the for those area in light, alternate between warm and cool white, I think you will be amazed.
@carmenlegault4041
@carmenlegault4041 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for your answers. I really appreciate it. I will go back quick tip 275.⚘
@amandairedale706
@amandairedale706 3 жыл бұрын
Just a beginner. Thank you.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@europeanroyalty4778
@europeanroyalty4778 3 жыл бұрын
Guess what else is toxic. Walking down the street. But we never think of that. If you eat the paint or get it on your skin it's not good. Can anyone guess what the solution is?
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
😊
@claygreen4723
@claygreen4723 3 жыл бұрын
European royalty- I survived lawn darts as a kid back in the good old days. I think I will survive lead white. Of course van Gogh ate his lead paints and cut off an ear so maybe I should stick to Titanium.
@YourMajesty143
@YourMajesty143 3 жыл бұрын
What a terrible metaphor. Walking down the street isn't toxic, it "can" be dangerous DEPENDING on specific & rare circumstances. Lead has a waaay higher probability of being dangerous without the needing a set of circumstances, bc it's INHERENTLY toxic. Lead paint emits fumes that you can inhale and let's not pretend we don't all get paint on our hands & clothes when we're working on the canvas. Once the paint ages & gets old, it can create lead air pollution indoors. If left untouched and in good condition, lead-based paint "may" not pose a significant hazard to health. But we DO touch paint and if it was easy to keep it in good condition, we wouldn't have the toxic warnings attached to it. If it gets chipped or deteriorates, the paint can create dust, chips and suspended particles that can be inhaled. But sure, let's try and guess the solution bc relying on guesses, instead of scientific advisory, is always the way to go
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t compare using lead paint to walking down the street, that’s just silly
@europeanroyalty4778
@europeanroyalty4778 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickfanzo It wasn't a direct comparison. Getting poisoned by led paint or cadmium or any other paint is the hight of silliness. One deserve's what ever health problem's arise's from such silly action's, in my opinion.
@teongbengngo3956
@teongbengngo3956 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 жыл бұрын
😉
@LittleMew133
@LittleMew133 2 ай бұрын
Maybe this is controversial, but I hate titanium white. I really do.
@LittleMew133
@LittleMew133 2 ай бұрын
Ideally, I would like a warm somewhat translucent white. Closest that I've seen are Vasari Brilliant Yellow Extra Pale & Sennelier Titanium Buff. But they're not commonly available :(
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 ай бұрын
Why do you hate it? Have you tried Gamblin or Rembrandt titanium white?
@LittleMew133
@LittleMew133 2 ай бұрын
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction I hate titanium, because I usually mix it with colors for the parts of the painting that get hit by light. Titanium just mute the colors' vibrancy, and make them feel cold :( I haven't tried Gamblin or Rembrandt, does the brand affect the quality much since I thought titanium is an easy pigment to create?
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
Using lead at this point is incredibly selfish and irresponsible. You’re washing lead down the drain and the water is going into ground water systems and drinking water. I used lead for a while and it’s just a bad idea, the risk involved is just silly when you consider how you may carry it all over the house and not even realize it.
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 2 жыл бұрын
Good point, Nicolas.
@qui_X
@qui_X 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think many folks will wash brushes with water in general, but a good point to the environmental effects to consider using these metal-based paints, which includes cobalt and cadmium.
@dont-want-no-wrench
@dont-want-no-wrench Жыл бұрын
there is some hysteria around the subject of lead white.
@robertchilders8698
@robertchilders8698 2 ай бұрын
WOW! I didn't know that!! My well water is extremely dangerous and unfit to drink! BUT THERE IS NO LEAD IN IT! From agriculture run- off!
@RT-wl6tq
@RT-wl6tq 3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with her....Be smart not scared
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Smart works, too.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 2 жыл бұрын
Washing lead paint down the drain, especially in areas with well drinking water and septic systems, is incredibly irresponsible
@dorinases
@dorinases Ай бұрын
I think that we are all making mistakes at times and even if there is a 0.01 % of having some lead left over somewhere on the palette table skin and not knowing that could get ingested why risk it with such poison? And paint with it on a daily basis? Yes we can be careful but still increasing the chances of brain damage and death for what? Better painting? Not worth it in my opinion.. especially that we have titanium white alternative.. no matter how safe you try to be there is a change of health demage and death.. there are many beautiful paintings done with titanium white .. stay safe !
@IntheStudioArtInstruction
@IntheStudioArtInstruction Ай бұрын
It never hurts to be careful as long as we stay reasonable about it.
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