I’ll be there. Sukkah always mine..

His best solo effort ever!!

I like it more than Thriller, always have.

One of the most underrated albums ever

It's actually better than Thriller based on the music by itself. Thriller is massive because of the videos. Content wise , Off the Wall is better.

Off the Wall, didn't sell big until after Thriller was released. It never top the charts anywhere in the world (except for the R & B charts in the US - which is not the same as topping the pop charts). It was also not nominated for Album of the Year at the AMA ( in which the nominees are based on sales), Donna Summer's Bad Girls was nominated though, she did sell over 4 million.

@@zedlacredit off the wall was better than bad girls

i'd say a good percentage of his fans think off the wall is his best album, myself included.

I agree Off the Wall was 10 times better to me than Thriller. I've never liked Beat It or Billie Jean they were the 2 corniest songs I've ever heard. I think his very best album was the Dangerous album. Which is the album that sold the least.

@@kayrobbie5840 Literally every word/sentence you just typed is wrong/blasphemous

Thee best

@@darkodevonta6291 Nope. MJ was good alone, and he proved it in the 90s

@@AC-mp7cx cuz he had Teddy Riley. Aka creator of New Jack Swing the sound of the 90s. Mike just wanted the New sound

@@AC-mp7cx teddy did the wholeeeeeee dangerous Album 1993

@@AC-mp7cx but trust me I know he the F'in greatest i worship this man I don't need you to tell me what he did

This is the inspiration dose I needed now!!

Glad you were inspired.

And from a different angle, Madonna very obviously took inspiration from BILLIE JEAN for PAPA DON'T PREACH. Very similar chords, melody, structure and themes.

@M T Yeah, that one too. The opening bars are almost identical to the bass riff on BILLIE JEAN. But it can soooooo be heard in PAPA DON'T PREACH.

He became famous because of quincy jones

"Good artist borrow, great artists steal!" Picasso

Jacob Jorgenson Don’t know if Picasso ever said that but I’ve always hated that quote. Great artists are inspired by other great artists but should never steal imo, that wouldn’t make them “artists”. MJ had multiple influencers and created unique art of his own. That’s how it should be.

damn sho was.

+Ruthie Price tf? "Sho" ur cool

jessica hawkins Here we go again another triggered person

He was a hit After Quincy too

MrJackson Tell em.

Yea but now Quincy is a trailer and turning his back on Michael , tryna claim that Michael was greedy and stole Billie Jean or something like that .

I meant “traitor”

@@Maddienmk I hated that even the people Michael Jackson work with betrayed him and turn their back on him even after his death Michael Jackson deserves better.

@@jordanbass481 same . It sucks and hurts .

@@Maddienmk yes he was bullied by his terrible father and the media bullied him and I hated that 10 years after his death they came out with a false documentary called leaving neverland with no facts Michael Jackson was proven innocent

Bad Era Haven Off The Wall is a masterpiece in itself. Every song on that album was a hit.

The truth is that Off The Wall, wasn't that huge...the album started to sell again after Thriller was released and exploded in 1982. Off the Wall wasn't nominated for album of the year at the 1980 AMA awards (which are based on sales- top selling albums), Bad Girls was. The color barrier was kicked all to hell by Donna Summer....she was the first female artist do dominate the Billboard Charts and pop music's first female mega star. She cross into multiple genres and sold millions of records worldwide. Mary J. Blige & Lenny Kravitz refer to her as '"the game changer". She was billboard top hot 100 act, from 1976-82 (pre mtv era) with 12 top 10's (10 top 5s). She was the first female to have #1 single and #1 album simultaneously in the modern era,(3 times in 8 months), the first to have 2 songs in the top 3 (twice in 4 months), the first to be on top of 3 major charts, at the same time. The first to have 3 # 1 singles, and 5 top 10s and/or 5 top 5s, in a calendar year (1979). She took 3 multi-platinum double album to the top of the charts in a 14 month period. Sold 20 million plus albums and 15 million singles ( 10 gold (1mil +), 2 platinum (2 mil +), 1 gold maxi-single) in the US at the end of the 70s. She is under certified by the RIAA because they didn't start multi-platinum certifications until the fall of 1984, and her catalog has never had it's certifications updated. Rock & Roll Hall of Fame named her Diva De Tutte Dive....the first true diva of the modern pop era.

Off The Wall was actually the most sold album by an African American artist before Thriller

@@RetiredAccount1010 just facts

@@jokerwildest no one cares. Michaels album was better, we're not talking about donna summers rn

turtleroot Off The Wall is criminally underrated. That was one of his best albums. ❤️

It's really hard to say what Michael Jackson's best album was, Off the wall , Thriller, Bad , Dangerous were all equally good albums

dangerous and history are as good

@@streetfightervsxenoverse1832 histroy too

@@AC-mp7cx History is more of a greatest hits album , so I it doesn't count..

There is no god.

Great attracts great, just look at the amount of extremely good people that worked around Q and MJ: porcaros, philinganes, ndugu, george duke was on, rod temperton of course, the list goes on and on.

BS

@John Whirling shut your bitch ass up

hell nah. quincy was 1%. mj was 99%

Lloyd john Lyons proved Quincy wrong how?...

Quincy never said that he wouldn’t succeed, the only thing he said to Michael was that Thriller wouldn’t sell a hundred million copies like Mike thought it would...

s.w. a.l.k Almost 36 years later? Michael thought it would do that at the time in a matter of months. I don’t know why people constantly pit him and Quincy against each other, they were never enemies so people need to stop ragging on Q. He did an interview with Vulture where it was printed that he said mean things about Michael but how many times did Michael say don’t believe everything you read.

Not all his albums did well especially in the from 2000 on

Scott Daniels Not when he was battling his own record label at the time

Gotta add in Rod Temperton. His songs grounded Off the Wall and Thriller.

Michael was a producer himself

are you kidding, regardless quincey jones should have sang and danced then himself like micheal fullstop. without talented perfomers ect where would quicey jones be seriously. credit to quicey for promoting, but seriously could he have done the MJ saga and all others ,hummmm

How dare them! This man IS music! He can do anything and everything that music has to bring!👍🏿

mike johnson I was born 97 here and geez this comment makes me feel so happy, I could only imagine to have lived in that time. I have respect for your generation’s prime days.

I caught the end of the Disco era in the 80's,

He never said that. MJ clearly took inspirations from many others

@@ixionchowdhury4896 he has said that many times

@@zakiyareignshinellc4299 Oh i figured that out days back. So is Quincy Jones. He has gone a nutcrack calling even the beatles as lazy musicians.

@@dashiellowen4905 MJ never stole music. He got inspired.

@@dashiellowen4905 stfu he never stole you troll

11 years after your comment... lol. I noticed that, too. "...big doe eyes... " . Such a touching reference, revealing Quincy's tender thoughts of Michael when they first met. I heard this for the first time, today. Quincy saying that. MJ always thanked Quincy Jones from the bottom of his heart. I'm going to keep these moments as fond memories of Michael Jackson's life and career.

Same here!

Love love are you referring to the interview Q did with Vulture? Because as Michael said himself, ‘Don’t believe everything you read in the press.’ 🤗😘

Preach.

@@ellawhiteside6483 thnx, glad someone noticed it

How much do you think “Q” made off of each RECORD SOLD???? He was THE PRODUCER of THE SAME RECORDS AS MICHAEL… (AND MANY MORE) 🙄 Don’t be FOOLING YOURSELF!!! ‘Q’ is an OLD SKOOL RECORD EXECUTIVE………… when ARTIST GOT PAID!!! (SPOTIFY 🙄) It amazes me how they PAY NOTHING to RUN AND OPERATE a “Buisness” of THE THEFT OF OTHERS WHO CREATE THE VERY PRODUCT THEY SELL!!🤬

@@williamroark that's the point Q is greedy and isn't satisfied with the money he's got

Never said they were laughing about the song, said they were laughing about the way Quincy worded that sentence. Stfu, your actually embarrassing and it’s people like you that give us MJ fans a bad name.

AlecoSound no he wasn’t 😂 Michael admitted in his own autobiography that he was saying it wrong and Quincy told him how to say it. I’m a huge MJ fan but Jesus stop making him right even when he is wrong 🤣

I'm from Greece and yes the correct pronunciation in Greek is "socratis" "Σωκράτης" Σ= S , ω=ο, κ=k, ρ= r , α= a, τ= t , η=i, ς=s . Michael was right without knowing.

@@ariaramen amen to that. It is SocrAtes, Σωκράτης in greek it's correct.

I am Greek and I have to say that Michael Jackson pronounced Socrates right. Σωκράτης= Socrates η=ee ά=when Greeks put this kind of lines on letters, that means that the specific letter is pronounced highlighted.

@@ennarvan1603 , but he didn't know that!

8mycrab Wrong. Michael was told by Tommy Mottolla who was running Sony that he couldn’t use him because he was an asshole. Michael called Quincy after Dangerous was finished and asked him if he would listen to it and let him know what he though. He still valued Quincy’s opinion, and Quincy did listen and said it was a masterpiece. They remained friends.

I heard Quincy was the one who suggested Teddy to Michael

Yes...agreed,but IMO the one responsible for all of Michael Jackson's major success is Berry Gordy...it was Berry Gordy's movie the Wiz that brought Michael and Quincy together,Quincy has said in interviews he wanted to work with Michael because he was familiar with his Motown work and knew his range,in other words,he knew this young man was very talented,so when Michael asked him to produce his solo project it was a no-brainer

Michael had a very mediocre solo career - before Thriller.... PERIOD, Off the Wall, started to sell more albums after Thriller was released and he exploded in the US... before 1982, he was a star, but not yet a mega star (or a huge pop star).

It's hard to define Michael Jackson's career...but you're spot on IMO...i'm from the east coast and during Off the Wall period people was into go-go music heavy percussion sounds,i remember when on his OTW tour i wasn't interested in going to the show,to me the Jackson's at that time was like a nostalgia act,totally agree in retrospect after Thriller then OTW got more recognition and became this "underrated" album

Camden Subdivision he has everything to do with that.

Michsel is responsible for his own success. He was the one who performed in that Motown 25. If it was any other artists it wouldn't be the same. As a producer Quincy is the best.

Captain Palsy where is he trashing him? If your referring to the interview he did where he apparently said Michael was greedy and stole other artists music think again. It was a printed interview, Quincy more than likely never said that because he said afterwards that Michael didn’t do that, the only thing he said he mimicked was the baseline from a Hall&Oates song, which is the opening bass hook for Billie Jean, which is true. Calm your tits.

@@ellawhiteside6483 there r many interviews where he's dogging him here on KZfaq, that are actual VIDEOS.

Thank you for the comment. It means a lot

vterpan That's what I thought.. It's not English it's Greek.. Quincy's full of shit.. he just wanted to gain an upper hand and make an impression on Michael

Oh my god EVEN MICHAEL ADMITTED HE WAS SAYING IT INCORRECTLY! People like you legit make me embarrassed to be in the same fandom as you 🤦🏼‍♀️ He’s not saying anything bad about Michael so what’s your problem? Get a grip!

@@ellawhiteside6483 read the comments made by the Greeks. They said that Michael's pronunciation was correct. You can't argue with that. ☺

@@ellawhiteside6483 Bro you're in every single comment thread did you even read what the person said completely? Mj pronounced the word correctly

@@ellawhiteside6483 Michael was made to think he was wrong when he was actually right. Quincy thought he was right & michael was naive & trusted Quincy’s authority so he believed him.

Se Bo Well he ain’t exactly gonna drop that in the middle of an interview is he 😂

How can I be jealous if I made him ?

@@quincyjones9481 He was superstar before he met you & that’s why you wanted to work with him. You knew he was going places. You saw his phenomenal talent & potential & wanted to work with him. MJ was a star all his own. No one has been able to replicate what he did, not even you. You contributed, a LOT, but you did not “make him”. If anything, he made you world famous. He loved you Quincy.

@@quincyjones9481 Michael Jackson had strength and depth of character that showed in his musical genius. If, as you claim, you “made him”, did you not recognize that? I am asking as it seems there has been so many demeaning things written about him that he definitely did not deserve and those closest to him could put right. He was not only gifted but he was humble and caring in a way that is foreign to this world.

It's obvious Quincy was jealous of MJ. Bless you Mary-Ann.

shit he wasn't. He was a parot looping all his Motown classics. Quincy Jones resurrected Michael Jackson. Let's not forget: without Quincy Jones there's no Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad.

KingCorny93 Michael Jackson was a train headed to inevitable success. That talent was unstoppable. Quincy was lucky to be at the right place at the right time to hitch a ride. Literally anyone could've produced Michael, coz Michael creatively controlled everything anyway and just lacked the technical expertise.

Rodney Jackson 🤣

He's become like Dame Dash after Jay-Z cut him off. You say you made me, then MAKE ANOTHER ONE! No disrespect to Patti Austin, James Ingram, The Bros. Johnson, or Tevin Campbell, but Q was never able to replicate that same success and impact with anyone else.

He produced it. Michael was the one that created it sis.

*Michael Jackson made the best album ever

God bless you too

I doubt he will say that was Mike...He named a LONG list of people he worked with and who were really, really great in his opinion and Mike wasn't one of them ;)

Bruce Swedien the master engineer will tell you it was Mike hands down

that's true. Also p.y.t stole the baseline by "Bad mama mama". Check it out.

True! MJ4EVER-RIP ❤️

He earned tons of money with Michael and other than Michael he kept his money together. You guys all blame him for beeing a dick. This man created the 3 best black albums in history and it was Michael who wanted to work with other guys. Calm your tits and give this man the respect he deserves.

+KingCorny93 yeah yeah yeah

Agree

I actually agree

KingCorny93 Why is that relevant? He clearly resents the fact that in every interview he is asked about Michael. All his decades of work and that's all anyone is interested in. They want to know about Michael. He's extremely bitter or going senile. He claims MJ lied and that he never had vitiligo, even though it is an indisputable fact that he did. He said MJ killed himself. He spoke about MJ's "white kids" like as if he's never looked at his daughter Rashida in his life. Lord, that girl looks whiter than I do 😂😂😂 He said some shit about Prince when he passed too... said he wanted to run MJ over in a car, voodoo him and that he was jealous of him 😑 I prefer to just ignore Q at this point.