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Seasoned Apologist

Seasoned Apologist

6 жыл бұрын

In this dialogue, Dr. James White and Abdullahi Al Andalusi talked about Peace and War in Christianity and Islam.
Abdullahi was questioned by Dr. James White on Quran 9:29-30, while commenting on the 30th verse that this is not directed towards all Christians, he finally says that the verses is actually FIGHT and not KILL.
But the remains, is that what the Islamic text and Scholar believed about this verse?
You can watch the FULL video here:
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@rmaidana1
@rmaidana1 5 жыл бұрын
"Fight, not kill", Yeah right. When you are at war fighting the enemy, guess what? You're trying to kill them. You're not trying to wound them and stop there. You have a sword and the enemy approaches you with a sword, How you avoid trying to kill? You kill them or they kill you.
@beasix9384
@beasix9384 4 жыл бұрын
Well if you don't wanna be fought, stop initiating hostilities and fighting them.. Ever thought of that?
@rmaidana1
@rmaidana1 4 жыл бұрын
@@beasix9384 You mean, convert to Islam or pay the Jizya? No, I don't like any of the choices presented, that doesn't mean I am initiating hostilities. Islam is violent and evil, case closed.
@beasix9384
@beasix9384 4 жыл бұрын
@@rmaidana1 Saddam didn't force you to convert or pay jizya... Neither did gaddafi. I don't think Iran would and nor do I think assad would either.. All the aforementioned countries I have no love for but you old boy are utterly brainwashed. You think we live in the 6th century and Islam is a political word force like Christianity was once a world force. Stop being scared and be brave.. Explore the world and you'll see people are not the way you've been brainwashed to believe they are. People get on. But hermit like people such as yourself really give other people the wrong impression with your backward ideas..
@rmaidana1
@rmaidana1 4 жыл бұрын
​@@beasix9384 You're getting it all wrong. The speaker says the Quran says "fight them and not kill them" I said it's the same thing, when you fight a war you might end up killing people. We are talking about the Quran, I don't know what Saddam and Gaddafi have to do with what the Quran says. I don't know what me being brainwashed has anything to do with what the Quran teaches. I'm brave enough to avoid being politically correct and call the Quran and Islam what it really is, a false religion and a dangerous ideology. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad people but they are the ones that are brainwashed and that is dangerous for the future of world peace. Look around you, most of the violence is committed by Muslims. Stop finding ridiculous excuses, the facts are the facts.
@beasix9384
@beasix9384 4 жыл бұрын
@@rmaidana1 When I look around me I actually see all the voliolence being committed by states that are secular by nature but christian at heart.. . They are a threat to the world, not Muslims. I don't see Islam doing anything tbh. Heck its not even fighting back.. Not that I think Muslims should fight back but what we see in the word is political and nothing to do with religion.. Perhaps you can enlighten me and give me an instance where we can truly say Muslims were in the wrong? Don't cite shit like 911 because its been proven to be orchestrated by Israeli intelligence. Maybe you can tell me of an instance where a Muslim nation has bombed and continues to bomb christians or anybody else for that matter? All the trouble in the world is due to western foreign policy and dictators whom they've put on power to keep their respective Muslim population enslaved. As for Muslims, they have no power. They have no protection from anyone and the world is united in killing them for sport and use the excuse of terrorism to cover their tracks. We've killed millions upon millions of muslims over the last 2 decades and in iraq alone we murdered almost 4 million.. These arefacts dear boy.. And you say Muslims are the ones committing violence?? What a joke... And as far as the Quran is concerned, if you studied it even a little bit you'd realize how it promotes peace and not war.. The verses you cite were revealed after 13 years of pacifism by Muslims. Then those verses gave Muslims the right to fight those who were killing them.. It relates to those people only and not every tom dick and harry like you seem to believe.. When read in context the Quran is simply breathtaking in its wisdom.
@yorubaronutv5427
@yorubaronutv5427 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and would you please post the full video or link please. Thanks
@seasonedapologist
@seasonedapologist 6 жыл бұрын
The full link is in description, please check and see the link there. Thanks
@yorubaronutv5427
@yorubaronutv5427 6 жыл бұрын
S Apologist Thanks for the information and my God almighty bless you and your household for the good work you're doing in Jesus Christ Name. Amen
@yorubaronutv5427
@yorubaronutv5427 6 жыл бұрын
BiblesOnLine Take your copy and paste rubbish away from my post please because you've been refuted and schooled every time but keep sending the same rubbish. Change your ways and accept the Prince of Peace into your life. Peace
@phillip6078
@phillip6078 Ай бұрын
Come on guys. In wartime, we only fight each other until one cant anymore. We don't kill each other. That will be silly.
@anonymoususer711
@anonymoususer711 3 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious the kind of person you are from the title you chose. You deceive only those like you. However, the video is very convincing so it’s either you didn’t understand or didn’t bother to watch before uploading.
@stevenclark5646
@stevenclark5646 Жыл бұрын
Why was that messenger killed and what message was he carrying
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
what messenger
@futiish
@futiish 4 ай бұрын
He didn't answer the question 😢
@stevenclark5646
@stevenclark5646 Жыл бұрын
They reached tobruc and there was no roman army they came back so the argument that a verse was reavealed when the.romans were attacking the Muslims is totally false
@firasfrancis7726
@firasfrancis7726 Жыл бұрын
Question to you Muslim.. what if the people you fight to take over their land and spreading Islam don't want to pay Jizzya and refused to embrace Islam what happens to them ??..
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
dont ask muslims hard questions,,,and these muslims dont know its haram to force islam on them non believers
@fahad-m62
@fahad-m62 7 ай бұрын
What happens when the countries that Western governments pressure (with unbelievable amounts of force) to adopt their central banking systems, decide not to do so? First they threaten, then they sanction, then they get Iraq’ed and Libya’ed. What happens if you refuse to pay tax to your government? They will fight you legally and try to lock you up, no? The West does not have moral high ground.
@lovenature904
@lovenature904 Ай бұрын
What happens in your country when you don't pay tax? Do you get death sentence??? No, you get penalty, fine or jail sentence. Why do you think that only punishment Islam knows is to kill?? That shows how brainwashed you are against Muslims.
@currycel470
@currycel470 3 жыл бұрын
Quran- Earth is Flat Its followers- It mean earth look like flan in photo, it doesn't mean earth is flat.
@randomannoyingguy5934
@randomannoyingguy5934 2 жыл бұрын
The Quran DOES NOT say Earth is flat. In fact it’s SAYS Earth is round. The Quran says that 1400 years ago lol where there was no science . It is from god.
@rawen_Khalid
@rawen_Khalid 2 жыл бұрын
Who said that?
@fatimagh462
@fatimagh462 2 жыл бұрын
Bible*
@rawen_Khalid
@rawen_Khalid 2 жыл бұрын
Evidence???
@mohamedali-iz1sc
@mohamedali-iz1sc 2 жыл бұрын
Where did u get this information
@TheGnosticMonotheist
@TheGnosticMonotheist 10 ай бұрын
It says Allah and Jesus son of Mary, in Arabic that’s how it’s written
@sallyb3806
@sallyb3806 2 ай бұрын
Surah Maidah
@aksulojik
@aksulojik 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the "word of Allah" in the Quran HAS to be EXPLAINED is the problem. Why would an all powerful, all knowing "God" not make the text crystal CLEAR and NOT up for interpretation to avoid potential violence?
@aksulojik
@aksulojik 3 жыл бұрын
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ so are saying there is nothing in the Qur'an that is down to interpretation?
@randomannoyingguy5934
@randomannoyingguy5934 2 жыл бұрын
You are the problem. We are the problem. There is nothing wrong with the Quran. It the people that misunderstood
@aksulojik
@aksulojik 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadaffan123 fair point.
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
@@randomannoyingguy5934 THE PROBLREM WITH THE QURAN IS ITS OVER 600YRS TOO LATE,ABDOOLA
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmadaffan123 SO YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ALLAH,WHY DO YOU HAVE IMAMA SHEIKS AND SCHOLARS TO EXPLAIN IT
@waheednaddafi1528
@waheednaddafi1528 6 жыл бұрын
the persians were not polytheist at the time of Muhammed. The Zoroastrians believe in one God(in persian called Ahura Mazda)
@beasix9384
@beasix9384 4 жыл бұрын
They associated God with fire. That took them outside the fold of pure monotheism. But the reasons why Arabs fought them was because they boiled Arab emiceries in boiling oil. Killed them so to speak.. Leaving only one alive.. Arabs never initiated hostilities. It was all the satanists around them that wanted them killed even when for 13 years they were pacifist.
@ok0lets0go
@ok0lets0go 5 жыл бұрын
It says fight. He is dancing around the fact. Believe him and be stupid
@beasix9384
@beasix9384 4 жыл бұрын
If you didn't fight them first then they wouldnt have fought back..terror breeds terror.. Both are wrong.. Peace!
@noelserrao9680
@noelserrao9680 4 жыл бұрын
@@ibnawa7410 but quran abrogated old verses and surah 9 is the last surah it abrogated the old surah of peaceful verses
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
@@beasix9384 PROOF WHO STARTED IT
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
@@beasix9384 weres the verse were is says who was attacking them ?? liar
@rajeshmishra6852
@rajeshmishra6852 3 жыл бұрын
you need to explain this much to make it understand..
@jellyteddy8817
@jellyteddy8817 3 жыл бұрын
someone removed my comment
@seasonedapologist
@seasonedapologist 3 жыл бұрын
How?
@jellyteddy8817
@jellyteddy8817 3 жыл бұрын
@@seasonedapologist I posted a comment about 1 hour ago. But my comment was gone. I said that qaatiluu (the first word of 9:29) comes from qatala, qatala means killing.
@seasonedapologist
@seasonedapologist 3 жыл бұрын
@@jellyteddy8817 sorry about that, it may have been held by KZfaq. We will check.
@reizo7764
@reizo7764 3 жыл бұрын
@@jellyteddy8817 qatilo means fight against that mean that convert them to islam by choice and by giving ideas.. its not قتل but قاتِلو
@jellyteddy8817
@jellyteddy8817 3 жыл бұрын
@@reizo7764 sure. zakir naik must be a caliphate and all countries in the world paying annual tribute (jizya) to him as he has been offering islam and ideas for years.
@pigmeatishambacon
@pigmeatishambacon Жыл бұрын
is allah fought the non believer he could just say begone,he would not have to fight,what a liar this muslim is
@fidelis1704
@fidelis1704 6 жыл бұрын
Taqiya (lie) is breath for muslim!..
@hassanahmed1755
@hassanahmed1755 2 жыл бұрын
well the only way to proof he is lying is to show any authentic interpretation of the verse that say any different for what he says. if can not then stop vomiting your own shit from your mouth and shut up
@namenloser7026
@namenloser7026 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t need to lie, we also don’t want to please anybody except allah.
@firasfrancis7726
@firasfrancis7726 Жыл бұрын
@@namenloser7026 your allah is the satan himself..
@Leon-hv4tf
@Leon-hv4tf Жыл бұрын
What nonsense perfect revealed word of God is just a context
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
YES LOVE YOUR ENEMY,TERN THE OTHER CHEEK,DO NOT KILL,BUT ISLAM,YOU GET 72 VIRGINS FOR KILLING
@alainumba42
@alainumba42 6 жыл бұрын
Liar!😂
@andys3035
@andys3035 6 жыл бұрын
alain Umba *liar
@user-uw3fi2zg4t
@user-uw3fi2zg4t 2 жыл бұрын
These peeps have no respect for truth
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
with out lies islam dies,some people cant see the truth,the book of lies=quran
@KeepHimAtBay
@KeepHimAtBay 5 жыл бұрын
look how he nicely convey things: godwin second law that he invented excludes the discussion about isis, because whenever you will question islamic way of life done by isis fighters, you loose. isis is not islam. yeah right.
@donhue4546
@donhue4546 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE HOW MUSLIMS REFUTE THEMSELVES
@HM-ln9gq
@HM-ln9gq 4 ай бұрын
Dear Christians, this is a completely wrong interpretation and presented in the wrong way! But it's okay because everyone is doing what they think is best for themselves! If you really want to know?? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7-Vidh-qtran4k.htmlsi=JfZhsMp33QmeOnmg
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