Race-baiting, queer-baiting, colorism, featurism, and performative diversity | Khadija Mbowe

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Khadija Mbowe

Khadija Mbowe

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Hello and welcome to another video! This time, we're talking about Bridgerton. (And me shamelessly promoting my opera career at the 30:35 mark)
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Time Stamps
0:00 Play
3:14 Intro
4:30 Background
5:41 Race-baiting
8:39 Lack of Asian representation (Speaking @erikaalamode / erikaalamode )
11:07 Colorblind casting
14:14 Colorism
18:58 Featurism
20:50 Stereotypes
26:16 The ‘twice as good’ lecture
27:25 Queer baiting & the S3x Scene (I talk about these very briefly)
28:59 What I liked
30:35 Shameless self promotion
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The land I record my videos on is the traditional territory of the Mississaugas of the Credit, the Anishnabeg, the Chippewa, the Haudenosaunee and the Wendat peoples.
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Some interesting reads:
Get to know the brains behind Shondaland’s ‘Bridgerton’ series, show runner Chris Van Dussen
www.shondaland.com/inspire/a3...
With ‘Bridgerton’, Scandal comes to Regency England
www.nytimes.com/2020/12/18/ar...
If you’re confused about what race-baiting is, here’s a bit of context
splinternews.com/if-youre-con...
Bridgerton’s Controversial sext scene needs a Trigger Warning
www.oprahmag.com/entertainmen...
'It's dangerous not to see race': is colour-blind casting all it's cracked up to be?
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...
Are you really sure you love Bridgerton?
www.wmagazine.com/story/bridg...
Who’s Who in Bridgerton: A Books-to-Series Character Guide
www.vulture.com/article/bridg...
African American College Students and Colorism: Examining the Influence of Media Consumption and Internalization on Perceived Skin Color, Self-Esteem, and Dating Preferences
search.proquest.com/openview/...
The Disturbing Effect Our Beauty Standards Have on Women Across the World
www.mic.com/articles/111228/h...
63 Million of Us Burn for Bridgerton
www.harpersbazaar.com/culture...
Donald Glover Can’t Save You (audio available)
www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...
VIDEOS:
Why Bridgerton is Problematic || Colorism, Race Baiting and Implicit Bias (The convo I mentioned)
• Why Bridgerton is Prob...
The TRUTH About Featurism in our Community (More about Featurism)
• Video
How Featurism works
• How Featurism Works
Intimacy Coordinator Reveals Some Behind-The-Scenes Secrets From 'Bridgerton'
• Intimacy Coordinator R...
MUSIC CREDIT:
Heartbreaking by Kevin MacLeod
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@dionnac344
@dionnac344 3 жыл бұрын
i think hollywood forgets that ✨you can have mixed people/interracial couples without a white person✨
@truefalse934
@truefalse934 3 жыл бұрын
Brandy’s Cinderella was seriously ahead of its time with how Hollywood is today 🙄
@larissalaflore7202
@larissalaflore7202 3 жыл бұрын
Not that people shouldn't have work but they can stop casting girls who look close to white as the daughter of dark skinned black parents so much. At least balance it out. Now the son is often dark skinned.
@whosthatchick5150
@whosthatchick5150 3 жыл бұрын
Yuuuup...
@SRHisntSilent
@SRHisntSilent 3 жыл бұрын
It's lost on them
@SRHisntSilent
@SRHisntSilent 3 жыл бұрын
@@truefalse934 if only they could've kept that same energy UGH It makes me furious
@breepark8635
@breepark8635 3 жыл бұрын
when the queen basically said racism ended because the king fell in love with a black woman, it pissed me off because they just made the issue of slavery seem so trivial. like all it took was a white man's love to end an entire system of discrimination and severe inequality?? are you serious? they deadass made it into some Cinderella/white knight story and completely ignored the efforts of poc to end slavery/discrimination 😭
@Kmkmkms
@Kmkmkms 3 жыл бұрын
as a black person im personally happy that we dont have to have the show be all about racism because i feel like a lot of shows/ movies just define their characters by them going through "black struggles"
@breepark8635
@breepark8635 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kmkmkms hm I definitely see your point! but if that was their goal then I feel like it would have been better to just not include the overcoming discrimination "storyline" at all and write this world as one that didn't have race struggles in the first place.
@scarlet8078
@scarlet8078 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should've just left out all the racism stuff tbh. We need more shows where diverse characters are just living our lives & we don't have to constantly be shown struggling, enduring prejudice, poverty, etc. It is fine to just make a fantasy show or alt history where characters' skin tones are irrelevant
@mayaskie1784
@mayaskie1784 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kmkmkms I understand that but honestly they should’ve just left racism out of it all together if they weren’t going to really delve into it. They made it seem like they were doing a whole lot more than they were...
@Kmkmkms
@Kmkmkms 3 жыл бұрын
@@mayaskie1784 yeah i agree when i started the show i thought "oh so in this world racism was never a thing?" and i was kinda happy with just that i loved how we could finally see black people in a fantasy period piece where they are royal and elegant, i love how they weren't styled to look white and they were allowed to wear braids and natural hair styles but then they mentioned racism and i was a bit confused and i would have preferred for racism to have never existed in this universe
@no.5179
@no.5179 2 жыл бұрын
WHEN will people realize adding ONE black person into a show ISN'T diversity?
@jamiejosh96
@jamiejosh96 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I check there was little to no black people in the uk when Bridgerton is based, so it’s just unrealistic and nonsensical
@willowfaye670
@willowfaye670 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiejosh96 Did you miss the plethora of black people in the background? I think it's pretty obvious they weren't going for realism. Ffs
@kevinruger8819
@kevinruger8819 2 жыл бұрын
Nope… but adding a blk bull to your bedroom activities with your Barbie wife is 😂
@kevinruger8819
@kevinruger8819 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiejosh96 The education you got in school is actually incomplete…. For a reason.
@talk2someone_who_fuckingca567
@talk2someone_who_fuckingca567 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiejosh96 Bruh where did you check because UK black people existed just not very high position in that time but rarely did you think British people wasn't into slavery oops 🙄I meant "servitude" did you think they could wipe their own ass no that would be absurd .
@swastikaganguly2924
@swastikaganguly2924 2 жыл бұрын
The way Bridgerton just mixed up different regional cultures in India as 'Indian'. Them being from Bombay, speaking Marathi, but also using 'appa' (a South Indian word) with didi (Hindi) and Bon (bengali). And as a Bengali living in North India all my life i recognise that isn't accurate. They take random bits of aesthetically pleasing representation and just amalgamate it into 'indian girl'.
@marietailor3100
@marietailor3100 Жыл бұрын
Yeah… I dunno. I see it differently? Like, when I watched Black Panther (I’m black) I noticed that they have shit from all over the continent mixed in. On the one hand, sure it’s not specific. But in the other, I genuinely wonder if idiosyncratic specificity actually can be more representative than one single specific type of person? For example, on the continent on Africa there are of course thousands of cultures and languages and traditions and so no one movie could ever represent them all with any depth. So if you can’t do that (if there just isn’t the time or space to do it), is pulling out specifics from different parts of the area you’re trying to represent potentially a better way to allow people to see themselves in a set of characters then getting one very specific region and culture exactly right? I’m not 100% convinced that that’s the case or anything, but I do think it’s something to think about. Like, it seems like the casting decision for this season was made in direct response to the colourism critique given that the Indian girl in question is one of the darker skinned Indian woman anywhere on tv and is definitely the darkest skin woman (or second maybe) of the whole series. So it feels like they were trying to represent as many people as they could with these 3 characters? But I don’t know - maybe specificity would be better. On the other hand, we have a fictional England where presumably slavery doesn’t exist on either side of pond, and colonialism hasn’t somehow abolished the mutual societal respect of hierarchy and ranking between high English and high Indian society so it feels weird on its face too, I guess to me, to hypothesize too much about a fantastical romantic world that simply could have never existed because all modern distinctions are based on history that isn’t shared with the history of the show. I dunno. Im probably overthinking this but you gave me a really interesting set of thoughts to tease out so thank you for that!
@annbrown9273
@annbrown9273 Жыл бұрын
Actually, think it's great to learn terms of affection or greeting from different parts of India. Why limit it to one region? If the goal of the show is to expose people to different aspects of Indian culture, then including terms from different regions is wonderful. These are likely terms many would never have known had they not chosen to include them. It's not that it isn't accurate. They never specified a region of India. I see it as inclusive rather than an amalgamation.
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 Жыл бұрын
@@annbrown9273 they say they are from Shri Lanka. Does a south Indian person think the same
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry this is just like that Pakistani dude in squid game with a Bengali name. It's dehumanizing. Then again it's a kdrama. And kdrama industry is way worse then Hollywood. I say it even tho I love it. But you know what sadly it's still progress and I hope characters in future would be better.
@BigMoney398
@BigMoney398 Жыл бұрын
@@sakuranovaryan9261 Ali is a bengali name?
@juliakimaro959
@juliakimaro959 3 жыл бұрын
The audacity of roasting a show for half an hour and including an audition tape in the end, girl I love you so much
@miakamara6308
@miakamara6308 3 жыл бұрын
It was less of a roasting and more of a constructive criticism of the faults of the show but yea that part at the end KILLED me
@juliakimaro959
@juliakimaro959 3 жыл бұрын
@@miakamara6308 no i totally agree, it was just a joke I also think it was very constructive :)
@taekwongurl
@taekwongurl 3 жыл бұрын
Audacious af and I love it!
@juliakimaro959
@juliakimaro959 3 жыл бұрын
@@dariusedmund5620 are talking about me? How did you even conclude that? Lol
@taekwongurl
@taekwongurl 3 жыл бұрын
@@juliakimaro959 I came here b/c I got an alert that someone made a comment, but I was super confused b/c what does "east African ancestry" have anything to do w/my comment? But after reading through everything, I'm even more confused as to how your ancestry has anything to do with your comment???
@Gayu4567
@Gayu4567 3 жыл бұрын
I think its really odd that colourism has gotten WORSE over the years. Like how tf was the 90s/early 2000s more diverse with their casting 😭
@xoliyah6553
@xoliyah6553 3 жыл бұрын
There were way more representation back then even in cartoons :(
@anna-jz5mj
@anna-jz5mj 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoliyah6553 ikr like the boondocks I'd say proud family but that show doesn't have good darksking representation
@Asma-op9xy
@Asma-op9xy 3 жыл бұрын
RIGHTT it’s shameful
@gabriella8141
@gabriella8141 3 жыл бұрын
With kids' shows like Little Bill, That's So Raven, and the Proud Family were some, but I'm not sure there are as many shows now that embrace different shades and put POC characters at the forefront. It might just be because I don't watch much TV anymore, though, but it's definitely something I noticed.
@Lostinmyhead23
@Lostinmyhead23 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it was just as worse as it was back then. I remember seeing a video and it was about Jet magazine and their cover photos and it was all light skinned women or talking about why black men should marry Asian women. It was weird
@latikatika3112
@latikatika3112 2 жыл бұрын
I'm rly loving the "you're not responsible for your first thought - society's responsible for that - but you are responsible for your second", coz lately I've really been trying to come to terms with/identify the biases that I have in general, this is rly great advice. Thank you!!💜💜
@popstarbootycamp4304
@popstarbootycamp4304 2 жыл бұрын
loved that too! givin me something to think about today!
@uberliner503
@uberliner503 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@luiiiandmovieee
@luiiiandmovieee 6 ай бұрын
I thought the same. Lately when I saw cute girls my brain was just like "it's not normal, it's bad" and I felt so bad for thinking that like being homophobic when it comes to myself but maybe it's society and not me
@TheHopscotchftw
@TheHopscotchftw 2 жыл бұрын
In no way trying to redeem Simon's father, but I'm really interested in they brush over the fact he was a generation that would have experienced slavery and then aristocracy and was worried about being stripped of his title by a mad king if he didn't have a perfect heir. Not that it makes him sympathetic, but there's motivation there.
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 2 жыл бұрын
That could’ve been interesting to explore!
@mimimusick9734
@mimimusick9734 2 жыл бұрын
In 1813 the British slave trade was continuing in the Caribbean and didn't stop until the mid-to-late 1840s. That's why I couldn't suspend my disbelief to get into this show. Every family in Bridgerton would've been making income from chattel slavery, so this weird utopia where there are Black people in the middle and upper classes and Black servants aren't enslaved people, didn't sit right with me. I found it all so unsettling. I'm also at saturation point with Buffy Syndrome shows about idealised white women who are fawned over by all and sundry.
@aikikaname6508
@aikikaname6508 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think they really shot themselves in the foot by opening up that “alternate history” explanation of ‘yeah racism did exist but racism ended once Obama became pres- I mean, Charlotte became Queen’ explanation in a one sentence throw away line. If they just went colourblind casting no one would question it, but introducing that bit of worldbuilding and not following through just leaves them to so many questions
@wordswondrouswords6120
@wordswondrouswords6120 2 жыл бұрын
@@aikikaname6508 And here I thought they were colour blind casting like they did with Beauty and the Beast movie.
@mwoods4608
@mwoods4608 2 жыл бұрын
they definitely should have left that part out. if it was the queen who ended racism it would have been years before the Duke wasn't white...
@sheamorrey963
@sheamorrey963 3 жыл бұрын
I want someone to make a period drama about the drama of a girl on her period in the 1800’s. It would be a period period drama.
@allielee
@allielee 3 жыл бұрын
period queen
@charmainejones8081
@charmainejones8081 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaha
@izzyd3857
@izzyd3857 3 жыл бұрын
periodt
@sarawinardi6745
@sarawinardi6745 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@katyscott87
@katyscott87 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 FWIW: I've only seen clips, not the TV show itself, but I believe "Dickinson" has a scene where she's dealing with her period.
@sqmqrth4401
@sqmqrth4401 3 жыл бұрын
as an indian person i really wish there was more south asian representation considering englands long history of colonizing south asia and how there actually were south asians in england.
@bandaqueenlove9134
@bandaqueenlove9134 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. In my opinion, the weird thing about Asian representation is that if there is a lot of South Asian representation, those who phenotypically look East Asian may not see that as “real” Asian representation for them. The same goes if most of the representation goes to those who physically look east or southeast Asian (which happens a lot). Then you have those who are middle eastern who may look white but people may not see that as collective Asian representation. Asians needs to be represented in general especially those who have monolids, have darker skin, ethnic noses, is Muslim/wears a hijab, etc.
@beminae1603
@beminae1603 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! And when South Asains are represented in British television they’re mostly required to represent Muslims too, not that it’s a problem but I’ve never seen a Hindu family being represented before and most of the time the actors/actresses aren’t Muslim in real life
@sqmqrth4401
@sqmqrth4401 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandaqueenlove9134 yep! but as a south asian i feel extremely excluded and underrepresented because there’s virtually no south asian rep in the media and the little that exists is stereotypical and negative
@sqmqrth4401
@sqmqrth4401 3 жыл бұрын
@@beminae1603 yesss!!! south asian hindu rep is literally not even present in the media we def need more!
@adaceline1740
@adaceline1740 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandaqueenlove9134 Which Asian groups gets represented depends on which asian group is the majority in a nation. E.g. On british TV you will see more south asian represenation than say east asian, west or central asian etc because south asians (mainly indians) are the biggest asian minority in the UK. Go to Germany and the biggest Asian representation on TV should be Turkish. Go to the US and the people they represent as Asian tend to be east asian which usually doesnt have anything to do with them being the majority but because the US views Asian as a race and therefore excludes south, west, central and northen Asians.
@Froggsroxx
@Froggsroxx 2 жыл бұрын
I remember someone making a video about this show, and talking about how the representation of consent is really troubling because it leans into the "men can't be r*ped" idea. As in the main female lead coerces and the forces the man to have sex and impregnate her.
@mwoods4608
@mwoods4608 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was more caught off guard. he could have pushed her off
@Froggsroxx
@Froggsroxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@mwoods4608 so you're saying, he wasn't sexually assaulted because he could have fought back? He must have wanted it because he didn't fight back? This is literally the point of my original comment, about assuming men can't be victims
@gracemoody7773
@gracemoody7773 2 жыл бұрын
I read the books and the way that scene was layed out wayyy worse than it was in the show. and I was disapointed that it was portrayed in a similar way in the show
@saphriaflaans462
@saphriaflaans462 2 жыл бұрын
My first reaction was "is someone finally going to talk about this?" Then no. They victim blamed and called it love. They could have made serious commentary on the way society views sexual assault on men. Instead they basically threw out a "man up" message. Disgusting.
@suonatar1
@suonatar1 Жыл бұрын
It's annoying AF, that they didn't take the opportunity to say, that it's not ok, since they've decided to leave that scene in the show. Nor did they make Daphne feel sorry or face any repercussions for her actions.
@gem9535
@gem9535 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone says it with me: "Men can be SA and it is just as wrong."
@keymango
@keymango 7 ай бұрын
THIS TIMES A MILLION! ❤
@ashleenakkal9453
@ashleenakkal9453 3 жыл бұрын
The way I didn't even question there not being any Asians... despite being Asian. It's just SO normal to not see anyone like me (especially being south Asian).
@ThoseBigWarningSigns
@ThoseBigWarningSigns 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment! I even searched the back of scenes at the extras but literally not a single Asian person 🙄 I hope they will respond to all of this in future sessions
@sabrinanaser9327
@sabrinanaser9327 3 жыл бұрын
Not saying you're wrong, but there are period pieces for Asians though, right? I always thought Bridgerton tried including Black representation outside of the "real life" period pieces that focus on trauma. Whereas other POC don't share that experience of no representation outside of trauma.
@sabrinanaser9327
@sabrinanaser9327 3 жыл бұрын
i'm talking ab Bridgerton in particular, im arab (Palestinian) and would love to see more representation of my ppl that doesn't include being terrorists lol so i def agree but just wanted to include another perspective on why the only poc in Bridgerton are black
@ashleenakkal9453
@ashleenakkal9453 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sabrinanaser9327 Maybe for East Asians? I haven't seen any but as far as I know, there isn't a lot. If the intention of the show was to create Black representation that doesn't focus on trauma, then it makes sense that there weren't any Asians. As a South Asian we have almost no positive representation in mainstream media and I'm not sure if there are period pieces involving South Asians at all. I'm Indian and I can't think of a single show where there are Indian characters who are likable and complex, rather than the usual unattractive nerd. However, I totally get why we might not see Asians in Bridgerton specifically.
@kelaba
@kelaba 3 жыл бұрын
Lady Granville is an Indian woman
@cilantrolime
@cilantrolime 3 жыл бұрын
"Mom, can we get diversity and representation?" Mom: We have diversity and representation at home. Diversity and representation at home:
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 3 жыл бұрын
Loooool
@muse5633
@muse5633 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@liriodendronlasianthus
@liriodendronlasianthus 3 жыл бұрын
Fuuuck haha
@s29nv1sr1
@s29nv1sr1 2 жыл бұрын
I will never get tired of this meme format
@Anyila87
@Anyila87 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@olesia6210
@olesia6210 2 жыл бұрын
when will young, darkskin women get more prominent roles in media and film? we need to see them at the forefront of these stories - not simply stories soley about the black experience and racism, but the more genre-based roles that white women are always getting.
@ladyallyally135
@ladyallyally135 2 жыл бұрын
This! Can we just be seen (when we even are on screen) without it making it about our race and skin color constantly. Yess we know we are darkskinned, we deal with racism and colorism on a daily basis, but can we fall in love too? Can we be vampire’s, werewolves or fairy’s too
@olesia6210
@olesia6210 2 жыл бұрын
@@ladyallyally135 right!!!
@pokefan5ever
@pokefan5ever Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the second season of Bridgerton? I thought it was great that they cast a dark-skinned south Asian woman as one of the main characters in the season.
@olesia6210
@olesia6210 Жыл бұрын
@@pokefan5ever i did, and i enjoyed it too :) but one season of one show isn't going to equate to the other abundance of representation white women get. also, my original comment was centred more around darkskinned black women.
@melsmithmel
@melsmithmel Жыл бұрын
When there are young black executives in the industry...who are smarter
@xenasBS
@xenasBS 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me thinks two things. 1. I hadn't considered this at all. This looked super diverse to me and it's kind of a reminder that, because I'm white, any presence of POC in media makes me feel like a show is diverse and I need to learn to ask for more. 2. Khadija is chaotic good, but she's always on the verge of swerving chaotic neutral and that's both exhillerating and terrifying. I will follow this woman's ramblings 'till the day I die.
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 Жыл бұрын
I also thought it was kinda diverse even tho I'm south asian. It's just goes to show how used to of this we are lol. A little bit feels exciting. And hence that is race baiting.
@undercoverfangirl5491
@undercoverfangirl5491 Жыл бұрын
@@sakuranovaryan9261 Hey, I feel the same way. I didn’t think it was completely diverse but I accepted it because it was one of the most diverse I’ve seen in media or that was so talked about it. I’m black and it really does show that we’ll accept anything or think anything is diverse if it has more than a couple POC.
@colonelturmeric558
@colonelturmeric558 Жыл бұрын
Diversity is a fraud, why does a natively white country need diversity? Wheres diversity in mozambique, or nepal, or cambodia, or nigeria? If it was truly ‘representative’ of current uk pop , to play devils advocate, then out of 100 characters only 3-4 would be black, and 12 middle eastern. Which equates to no blacks in a cast that small, and maybe 1 asian. Use your brain to think and your emotions to feel, not the other way round
@korasleo8631
@korasleo8631 3 жыл бұрын
If your partner doesn't want kids please respect that and don't force yourselves on them please and thank you. **LOOKS DIRECTLY AT DAPHNE**
@sweetsbliss1908
@sweetsbliss1908 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoGalaxy They didnt have kids..?
@SolRayTheintuitive
@SolRayTheintuitive 2 жыл бұрын
I got non consensual vibes from this
@amanda4823
@amanda4823 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoGalaxy he literally didn't lie? she just misunderstood her words because she's so innocent and doesn't understand. also even if he did intentionally lie, that doesn't mean that she allowed by any means to sexually assault him. plus, in the show, she agreed to having no kids with simon in order for the two to get married, so she went back on her word as well. in a much worse way as well
@bejo2551
@bejo2551 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's worse, Daphne doing it or the show just glossing over it.
@grimlesbians
@grimlesbians 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoGalaxy u sure can say they were both in the wrong in different ways but like, simons issues with having children couldve been solved with communication. they showed he wanted kids but didnt feel like he could bc of his hang-ups. sexual assault is not a communication problem! its a fundamental disrespect of someones humanity and bodily autonomy problem! if they were having 0 problems in their relationship and marriage beforehand it still wouldve been wrong. there is no excuse EVER for marital rape. besides, the reason daphne did what she did was she knew that (for reasons she didnt understand, but she knew of it nonetheless) simon was avoiding getting her pregnant. she knew she was violating his boundaries without trying to work out why they existed to begin with.
@mar2982
@mar2982 3 жыл бұрын
also i kind of didn’t like what they did to penelope’s character. they always do this to fat girls, they make them this sort of revenge seeking underdog that becomes the bad guy bc no one ever pays them attention and in the case of girls they make them compete with one another for the affection some guy. it’s such an over-used trope and i was hoping they wouldn’t repeat it but they did
@miapendragon5931
@miapendragon5931 3 жыл бұрын
It’s also massively ridiculous because she isn’t like that in the books.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 3 жыл бұрын
Amazingly some of us don't become super villains even if we are overlooked all our lives.
@josss_ie8083
@josss_ie8083 3 жыл бұрын
YESSS! They literally made her the fat best friend 😩. Also, didn't like the way she was lady whistledown. Now looking back it makes sense but it takes the likeability of her character away. Since she exposed Marina and lied to Elosies face :(
@EbonyB.U.T
@EbonyB.U.T 3 жыл бұрын
Preach girl
@miapendragon5931
@miapendragon5931 3 жыл бұрын
@@josss_ie8083 she also doesn’t do that in the books! The fact she is Lady Whistledown really elevates her character rather than takes away from it, as Marina isn’t involved there in the books
@kimberlybega8271
@kimberlybega8271 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely missed any hint that Simon's dad was using the "twice as hard to get half as far" mentality, so to me it just came across as, "Wow, this dad is a jerk just because his son has a stammer. Poor Simon." Also, thank you for bringing up the consent issues! If it had been the opposite scenario where Simon wanted kids and Daphne didn't and he was forcing himself on her, I think it would have been seen more clearly for what it was. We still have work to do as a society with recognizing that men can be victims and women can be perpetrators, though I think it's getting better. 💜
@studiogru3649
@studiogru3649 2 жыл бұрын
The queer-baiting was in the books, too. But there's a whole lot of other changes--and I'm still disappointed that Daphne wasn't plus-sized, because she was at least hinted that way in the novels.
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 Жыл бұрын
Ooh Imagine that would've been cool. But it's ok ig. Most of the women in the show are corseted very slim women. And it felt like that was like pressure for them to be that way. That was kinda sad. Only Penelope and her friends are these outcasts. Tbh I really like how they dress Penelope. It's not to hide her body but to flatter it. She looks very beautiful.
@intensestare5027
@intensestare5027 Жыл бұрын
@Sakura Nova Ryan actually regency period fashion didnt even have corsets, they had stays which were less restricting. having a slim figure was less of a requirement bc the dresses had little structure anyway so whats the point of having tiny waist if no one sees it yknow?
@xxxJaehoxxx
@xxxJaehoxxx 3 жыл бұрын
Also: why does nobody make a film with african setting? A historical movie about ethiopia would be cool. They have a rich culture.
@trinnygirl1
@trinnygirl1 3 жыл бұрын
All of Africa has a rich culture and history. But academic study is oversaturated in areas like Europe, Mesopotamia and Egypt. Also, you can’t exactly rely on the media for non-selective representation.
@fiffysmillles4384
@fiffysmillles4384 3 жыл бұрын
Every african country got a rich and unique culture not only ethiopia ya know
@napturaladvice7646
@napturaladvice7646 3 жыл бұрын
Ethiopian investors need to get on it.👍
@therealest7640
@therealest7640 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss we Ethiopians have a beautiful culture and a royal family that existed for 1000s of years. Am I the only one who doesn't care about being represented in a setting that people who look like me were never truly a part of? Honestly, including black people as nobility in 1800s England gives the false impression that black people were actually seen as equals in that society. What is really needed is a show that depicts African life in the 1800s or earlier and showcases our rich heritage.
@winterpupi
@winterpupi 3 жыл бұрын
Fr we need more African stories and settings our cultures are getting slept on
@LisaF777
@LisaF777 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with the colourism. I noticed it too. Dark skinned black people and Asians were basically props in the background
@erikak.7879
@erikak.7879 3 жыл бұрын
Exactlyyy Take for example in indian movies look at the main characters smh😔
@sadesuarez2954
@sadesuarez2954 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why they didnt have any darskinned black people on the show as main characters is because eventhough they were trying to be "woke" they still wanted to play it safe. So they wanted "black" british royals to impress black people but they also didnt want to loose the "realism" aka offend white people who are big fans of british times or big fans of the book so they went with what would be more likely which is mixed race royals and mixed race main characters. When it comes to Asians not being as represented they didnt have to worry about that because usually asians dont complain as much about the lack of representation as other ethnic groups since its usually mostly non asians complaining for asians if that make sense or non asians encouraging asians to feel offended. That is partly the reason why a lot of shows get away with not representing asians enough or only representing a certain type of asian community.
@gcc2313
@gcc2313 3 жыл бұрын
As usual when they try to be "Inclusive", but in reality they just try to bait minorities into watching.
@nifavetta332
@nifavetta332 3 жыл бұрын
Right, I thought the same thing while watching
@jimerodriguez8332
@jimerodriguez8332 3 жыл бұрын
I am from a Latin American country,you would not believe the quantity of people offended in the spanish trailer of Netflix ,saying it was not realistic to even include people who are not white as anything but servants.So yes,people who belong to countries that were once a colony and probably have all kinds of race heritage were still offended because they didn't want anything but a white cast in a fictional England,so even tho some countries felt it wasn't enough ,others felt that "woke" inclusion was too much.
@AlexandreLemos
@AlexandreLemos 2 жыл бұрын
23:47 "when I'm talking about stereotypes and stuff, I try to be aware of my own" I love how mature the whole approach was. My 1st time watching you and all I can say is thank you for this video!
@lucypage5956
@lucypage5956 2 жыл бұрын
I would really love to see more Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians in media. There are hardly any, even in media that is actually made in Australia, and when they do appear they are often the "noble savage" or "magical native" stereotype. I've been binge-watching Malcolm in the Middle as we're currently in lockdown in Sydney, and I thought it was so cool to see a major character who was Native Alaskan. There are so many races and ethnic groups that just never seem to appear in mainstream media.
@NanaLia_18
@NanaLia_18 5 ай бұрын
Yes❤
@courtneymdudley
@courtneymdudley 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just shocked how not alot of people are talking about the toxic relationship between Simon and Daphne. Daphne literally tries to change Simon and ultimately sexually assaults him to get what she wants...a child. Yes, rape can happen in a marriage as well. I wonder how people would react if the roles were reversed.
@coolgab21
@coolgab21 3 жыл бұрын
YES! It really made me upset. He informed her no kids, and she did everything to change that. She really bothered me.
@kumjumba1377
@kumjumba1377 3 жыл бұрын
I get what you are saying, but the roles are almost ALWAYS reversed. Women being raped is used as a plot point in alot of stories. GoT for example. Women's suffering is almost always used as a motivating plot point.
@coolgab21
@coolgab21 3 жыл бұрын
@@kumjumba1377 I think one the issues is that they made Daphne look like the victim and good person ?
@kumjumba1377
@kumjumba1377 3 жыл бұрын
@@coolgab21 I don't think I expressed myself well. I am not supporting her in anyway. However, I do despise this "if the roles were reversed" argument. Because its despicable either way.
@vanessaroper3028
@vanessaroper3028 3 жыл бұрын
Yep very rapey vibe to it
@9401maru
@9401maru 3 жыл бұрын
For me it was a rape scene, no discussion. If a man coming inside a woman without her consent during sex constitutes rape, the opposite apply as well. It ruined the whole experience for me. Specialty because she still came out as a victim on the situation. Big red flag.
@mar2982
@mar2982 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree and after that the show tried to make daphne the only victim and nothing was talked about how simon felt after being abused??? like what the fuck it bothered me so much
@lisamerz9667
@lisamerz9667 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I hated that scene so much that I quit the show altogether. Evening out a lie by sexually coercing your husband to get you pregnant against his will (!) even though he obviously seems to have reasons we don’t yet understand ... I rarely defend men, but this scene is heavy.
@9401maru
@9401maru 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisamerz9667 yeeees, exactly! And male rape it's a serious question, that possible insist on pretending it doesn't exist. This just signs over it. I hated it. Hated. There's no murky nothing, it's plain has day: she was in the wrong. End of story.
@strawberryspider4832
@strawberryspider4832 3 жыл бұрын
Omg fr, as a woman i felt so uncomfortable watching it, she didnt repect his choice and still push him to change it, if that happens to me i would be so mad and dissapointed from my partner
@notky848
@notky848 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@commandrogyne
@commandrogyne 2 жыл бұрын
Im always blown away with khadija's range and breath support whenever we get clips of her opera performance, like holy shit! Its all very impressive
@Singingshadowgirl
@Singingshadowgirl 2 жыл бұрын
Conscious Casting is something my favorite Drama Professor taught us when she picked scenes for us to learn. It took her from the time she met us, to about halfway or more through the quarter to cast us into our scenes, because she wanted to get to know us and our struggles and passions before deciding roles for us. She put emphasis on the importance of seeing the actor and letting the actor connect to their character's struggle. It wasn't just skin color she took into consideration, she also looked at sexuality and anxieties(from what students shared willingly- just to be clear), and it lead to some very heartfelt and passionate finals. It was generally a really good experience, and I'd say, a lot of that was thanks to our Professor just- acknowledging parts of us while casting and wanting something for us to grow from.
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like an art in itlself. Would love to see something like that in real life.
@nigerianprincess101
@nigerianprincess101 3 жыл бұрын
The Good Place does some wonderful color-conscious casting. They casted whoever was best for the role and then made the role around the character, with their own racially and culturally significant and I truly love that and think it should be done more often.
@AN-cr9cy
@AN-cr9cy 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it, they did do a fantastic job with the main cast on that show. I didn’t even realize that when I was watching it because it felt natural like they were characters who were just living their lives (or after-lives rather, lol). It didn’t feel too forced or too relaxed.
@kianaw.8096
@kianaw.8096 3 жыл бұрын
@@AN-cr9cy same!!
@cloflomonster
@cloflomonster 3 жыл бұрын
AGREE! I watched bridgerton just as I was wrapping up the last season of TGP, and had very similar thoughts.
@terriberri87
@terriberri87 3 жыл бұрын
The good place did great! Because obviously in 'the good place' races and nations would all be together because its not earth anymore and soul mates could be people from different countries I. E. Ellenor from America and chidi from Australia
@caryscollin5308
@caryscollin5308 3 жыл бұрын
@@AN-cr9cy wait i agree so much with the not realizing the diversity, like i wasn’t like i didn’t realize the races of each character, but the show did not seem like it only casted the characters for “diversity points”
@Vasilia4
@Vasilia4 3 жыл бұрын
*I have yet to see a romcom/drama/show that centers an unbiguous black woman as soft, elegant, feminine, and desired by succesful men of all races.*
@maryannemacharia6823
@maryannemacharia6823 3 жыл бұрын
In as much as Annalise in HTGAWM wasn’t soft, she really was being hit on by men (& women) of all races
@melazydaisy602
@melazydaisy602 3 жыл бұрын
I hope to make a movie like this one day. I’ll have them with long and short natural hair. Styled with zero heat too. Perfect 🤩 one can dream (UPDATE! I decided to start my own media company! It’ll be online-based and small for now! Producing things like mangas, animated comics, novels, and short animated films for now! )
@mrsshadezofgray
@mrsshadezofgray 3 жыл бұрын
She's Gotta Have It by Spike Lee is dope.
@lbbaby7741
@lbbaby7741 3 жыл бұрын
Scandal
@Nozelle.
@Nozelle. 3 жыл бұрын
@@maryannemacharia6823 I was about to write the same thing when i saw your comment. Annalise is such a powerful character and Viola Davis acting is just out of this world
@DarkINsides06
@DarkINsides06 2 жыл бұрын
32:33 as a light skin black man in FL, I've had to deal with that bullshit my whole life in the only way to combat it was to laugh at the jokes because I know I'm not like. I can relate to you and that it feels like erasure. I'm soft by default, I'm one of the "good" ones until I wild out and then I'm crazy, I can't be myself, it's bullshit, I love your videos, highlight of my day🖖
@tristynlinde
@tristynlinde 2 жыл бұрын
If you made one of these breakdowns for the culture of opera, I would eat it up. As a nonbinary opera performer, there are so many issues that just go unspoken. I know it might be a little niche, but just letting you know I'd be so down
@melsmithmel
@melsmithmel Жыл бұрын
Opera is the most conservative industry out there..Respect! I want change in that space immediately.
@annaniemczyk2285
@annaniemczyk2285 4 ай бұрын
Can someone elaborate? Very interested in this topic
@itissomethingnow
@itissomethingnow 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an Indian woman and this practice of colorism runs sooooooo deep in Bollywood that a bunch of highest paid actresses right now in Bollywood are NOT EVEN Indian. they are mixed or have distant south Asian ancestry, and all of them are light skinned to the point where some of them look whiter than my whitest friends. For example Jacqueline Fernandez, Sunny Leone, Katrina Kaif. There are literally no famous dark-skinned actresses in Bollywood, maaybe you can count Deepika but she's heavily made up in films to look basically white.
@apolonia8504
@apolonia8504 3 жыл бұрын
So true.
@nandinibhowmik7004
@nandinibhowmik7004 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if they can act or even speak Hindi. All that matters is that they are light skinned and skinny. That's it. It's just sad.
@lunazen8661
@lunazen8661 3 жыл бұрын
I would consider Pryianka to be dark skinned.. but just having her as a sole representative, considering how diverse India is in terms colour is just not enough! I get what you mean. Hopefully it changes in times to come!
@DilettanteThat
@DilettanteThat 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who watches not a lot of bollywood at all but still acquainted with it, who the fuck are Jacqueline Fernandez, and Sunny Leone.... LOL But you got a point there.
@christinetobiasz
@christinetobiasz 3 жыл бұрын
@@lunazen8661 I wouldn’t count Priyanka as a representative. She was much darker skin before and then when Hollywood started calling she only associated herself with white ppl. Even in the show, she starred in she was a “half American/half Indian” character to appease North American and European viewers because they are more accepting of biracial and light-skinned people from any race 🤷🏽‍♀️
@chloeryder3080
@chloeryder3080 3 жыл бұрын
Being a white, seventeen year old girl, I actually thought that bridgerton did well in including POC. This video really made me realise that lighter skinned/biracial people are used for prominent characters, instead of darker skinned actors. Now I'm just bothered by it. Thank you for making this video.
@Author.Noelle.Alexandria
@Author.Noelle.Alexandria 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a white lady, a bit older than you, and your comment is perfect in a way. It shows how we've backslid so far from where TV shows used to be, from when casts that featured black people in lead roles, and not just lighter black people, but all shades, was actually normal, to a point where people who could almost pass for white being set dressing is considered inclusive. As a sci-fi nerd, a couple examples that stick out to me are how NO ONE questioned the inclusion of non-white characters in prominent roles in shows like Battlestar Galactica, and think about the cast favorites of Star Trek. Non-white people, including Asian, got to exist and *do actual stuff.*. Now, toss in a few lighter black people at basically furniture, and that's inclusive.... We can do better than this, and i know we can because media HAS done better, and entertainment and media in general were so much better and wittier and insightful for it.
@g.j0428
@g.j0428 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this!!! That you at first thought one thing but you were able to watch this video and come up with a new POV!! We appreciate this and you
@BontensBicycle
@BontensBicycle 3 жыл бұрын
I also thought they did not a bad job after watching it, but this vid opened my eyes.... Thank u for vids like that
@sashav.3189
@sashav.3189 3 жыл бұрын
Yup so this video achieved its goal and next time you’ll even be able to point this out or even look for actual diversity in another show or movie, and music videos etc you watch with friends or family who might have thought is is what diversity is. Really cool you were open to learning.
@bunnywavyxx9524
@bunnywavyxx9524 3 жыл бұрын
@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria I agree. I realize there were more TV shows centered around black main characters in the 90s and early 2000s, and that as in, fully black actors. Now biracial and light-skinned - not to mention straight up making white actors pose an entirely different race - is as far as it can get. We don't see it as a "push for diversity," when diverse character casts have fully fleshed out personalities, and vital roles to the plot.
@haleywells7369
@haleywells7369 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, I think romance is an amazing genre to explore issues of race, sexuality, gender, social issues etc. in because it’s about two people with probably differing life experiences and different worldviews and differing opinions coming together and learning about each other and deciding they want to build a life together. A huge part of romance is two people getting to know each other, which leaves a huge space for those people to be discussing social issues and how they see the world as they are trying to decide if this other person is compatible to building a life with them. And so to hop around deep social issues in favor of just discussing favorite color or favorite bands or favorite movies between two romantic leads, I think it’s really shallow and ignores a lot of conversations that people in actual relationships often have.
@VestaBlackclaw
@VestaBlackclaw 2 жыл бұрын
I'm super late to the Bridgerton party having watched S1 oh recently, but I gotta say I was extremely and deeply upset by the romance between Daphne and Simon. It was so promising at first since I'm a sucker for fake dating and they had amazing chemistry, but That scene happened and it was on _Simon_ to be forgiven and not Daphne. She even gets what she wants in the end, and he has his desires minimized by her and Anthony. Watching him be beaten up hurt more than anything else. But Daphne is tier for least favorite character with Penelope for how she so willingly ruined Marina's life because Marina was pursuing a boy she liked and saw _no_ repercussions for it. I guess if you're a white woman in this show you're instantly forgiven for violating and hurting black main characters. Its upsetting and I'm only interested in S2 because of some friends - if it weren't already out, I doubt I'd pay this show anymore mind. (Favorite heart 💙)
@rebekahsegun8319
@rebekahsegun8319 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so you're mad at Daphne for borderline raping Simon and not facing any consequences for it, but you simply see Marina trying to baby trap Colin as simply, "pursuing a boy [Penelope] liked?" Nope. What both Daphne and Marina did were shitty and they deserve to be called out for it. At least with Daphne, her ignorance a naivety towards sex probably did not enable to understand the etiquette of sexual consent. But Marina knew full well what she was doing. Just because she's black doesn't mean you have to defend her all the time.
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I felt bad for marina. What a toxic environment and life. She's likable in other places. But what she did was wrong. She was manipulating and betraying a person. And Penelope is honestly a great character on paper. Her story is interesting. But she's prolly down more toxic thing so can count in one hand. So yeah there's no way to like a character I guess. They've all done something horrible. And not in like human flaws way. More like evil. Which is for the drama.
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 Жыл бұрын
@@rebekahsegun8319 hm sure u can make that argument. But imo people defending her has more to do with how shitty her situation is. Daphne may not have any sex education but she has backup. Marina doesn't. I blame her as much as I blame her surroundings.Meaning not having access to abortion,child support or a home.What I'm saying is not a justification of her actions which are still unethical and made me sad honestly. He literally said you could've told me the truth and I would've helped. But still my point stands.
@euwue
@euwue Жыл бұрын
Can we also talk about the scene where Mrs. Featherington (penelopes mom) had an old man grabbing and turning Marina around LITERALLY LIKE HE WAS CHECKING A SLAVE. THE ONLY OTHER BLACK MAIN (SECONDARY) CHARACTER. SHE WAS ON A STEP/SOAPBOX IM PRETTY SURE TOO.
@euwue
@euwue Жыл бұрын
@@sakuranovaryan9261 I hated colins little "if you would have told me i would have helped" because once again, this is a time where her being outed as pregnant LITERALLY destroyed her chances at a semi normal life. She was locked up in a room against her will for who knows how long because she was found out by FAMILY. She literally could not have come clean and expected anything good to happen, esp how furious he was that he found out and then dropped her (instead of being the Nice Guy and trying to understand/support her).
@StylesByB
@StylesByB 3 жыл бұрын
"You're not responsible for the first (judgemental/stereotypical) thought that pops into your head society is, but you are responsible for the second thought and your action afterwards"
@Gigi-ti1rp
@Gigi-ti1rp 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching 90s sitcoms - black women in different shades and sizes Me watching recent shows with black women - Light skin and skinny (edit:nothing is wrong with being skinny and a lightskin women. it's just they are currently being represented more in media. Black women are diverse and don't come in one shade or size )
@halroxdynasty8683
@halroxdynasty8683 3 жыл бұрын
Omg. Seriously this needs to be addressed more.
@esikazemese
@esikazemese 3 жыл бұрын
Damn right! I just came to the comments to see if anyone had an answer to why is that happening!
@evepize3211
@evepize3211 3 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that the 90s felt more real. Not only more variation of colour but you had more gay/lesbians on primetime? Teen shows were more than just about fashion...
@halroxdynasty8683
@halroxdynasty8683 3 жыл бұрын
@@evepize3211 yeah, and like actual butch lesbians lol. Not the glamorized lipstick lesbian, like that's the only representation on tv now...
@anoziraflaminghot
@anoziraflaminghot 3 жыл бұрын
Someone made a video that compared the non-white characters in the 90s/00s vs now and, ngl, I was kinda surprised to see how bad it got. We're supposed to progress not move backwards :/
@stupidmadshit
@stupidmadshit 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : Bridgerton's costume designer Ellen Mirojnick also did the costumes for the 1997 Cinderella, so they're even more alike than you thought!
@user-fw3ic7lm2q
@user-fw3ic7lm2q 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched this after finishing season 2, would love to see a video documenting your thoughts on season 2, if they improved etc.
@yasminecumar3450
@yasminecumar3450 3 жыл бұрын
When they touched on how the queens interracial marriage made life easier for the other black characters and then never followed thru with that story line... like what da heckkk
@maamyy
@maamyy 3 жыл бұрын
Fr , what was the Reason ,they Could have let this out smh ,if they would have let this out , it would actually be something good, because from their on It begann to be werid
@esikazemese
@esikazemese 3 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget, this is the first season mainly focusing on the Duchess storyline. More should come later, and hopefully as storylines change the casting will also...
@nicolaspabloangellegros430
@nicolaspabloangellegros430 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it happened in real life a couple of years ago and the bullying from the tabloids was so intense that Harry and Megan decided to quit lol.
@asinatevaivela3945
@asinatevaivela3945 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should read the book😊
@KB-nz6bv
@KB-nz6bv 3 жыл бұрын
Girl.
@Wordsespecially3
@Wordsespecially3 3 жыл бұрын
Asians and dark skinned black people were background characters. The entire time. Like wow🙂
@DeidreGeorgia
@DeidreGeorgia 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that in the trailers which is still the reason why I haven't clicked to watch on my Netflix.
@Wordsespecially3
@Wordsespecially3 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurad-l-m814 as said in this video, the dark skin characters represented were stereotypes with no real depth and only embodied archetypes given to us by white media. Some would say “at least they got speaking lines” but I’d beg to differ; them having lines but only playing stereotypes is just as bad as minimal representation because at least there’s no negative connotations of that skin colour being perpetuated.
@alexf9447
@alexf9447 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurad-l-m814 Shut up Laura.
@amarahslatton1002
@amarahslatton1002 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurad-l-m814 you’re actually wrong though
@sashav.3189
@sashav.3189 3 жыл бұрын
See, you shout Asians @@laurad-l-m814 and yet they still try to silence you. Just like we fought for rights and because of us, Asians have rights too but they still try to marginalize us. When will we learn to speak up for our people and our ppl alone. There was no dark skinned black women who had a speaking role nor even more than a millisecond on camera. But this girl was only focused on Asians while you’re focused on both and she can’t even be grateful. The audacity.
@ybemad
@ybemad 2 жыл бұрын
What happened after the 90s?: My observation was that when FOX was coming up and struggling to establish itself it used black and brown communities to do that (In Living Color, Martin, Roc, Living Single, NY Undercover etc.), then when it started to experience a measure of success they started to move on and became more "mainstream". I think the UPN also repeated this pattern to a point, they might still be trying to establish themselves and the landscape was different.
@ladyethyme
@ladyethyme 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve wondered why shows have changed myself…and the idea about “first thought, second thought” was….amazing.
@loganterry9849
@loganterry9849 3 жыл бұрын
That whole “love conquers all❣️ (even race)” mentality in the show had me like 👁👄👁
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@TrollownsGoblin
@TrollownsGoblin 3 жыл бұрын
I seen that and I was like Oop it’s Shonda Rhimes ain’t it lmao
@chichinwe9829
@chichinwe9829 3 жыл бұрын
My dear , but dats d truth. Love really do conquers all, especially if it's a genuine one. So that line is so much in place
@StephanieSoressi
@StephanieSoressi 3 жыл бұрын
@@chichinwe9829 Race is nothing to be conquered! If you are with someone, you not only SEE their color, you ADORE it!
@Ryan-pg1tw
@Ryan-pg1tw 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrollownsGoblin maybe you should express yourself more respectful
@skdfoweofwio4765
@skdfoweofwio4765 3 жыл бұрын
As an Asian, it's so annoying how Asians are either the smart, toxic, or "quirky" friend. This is why I gravitate to Kdramas and movies (I'm Korean). It's refreshing to see beautiful Asians being appreciated for their acting in significant roles, but even then I always see a few scathing comments. Also please. Can we see some South Asian representation?
@untitled_firstdraft7726
@untitled_firstdraft7726 3 жыл бұрын
Yess!!!
@esikazemese
@esikazemese 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to ask that, WITH ALL RESPECT , but Asians have a whole market of media on their own. How much representation they need in western media? I know that marketing is also tending towards white features in Asia as well, which is a problem, but that's a different (or not?) topic.
@skdfoweofwio4765
@skdfoweofwio4765 3 жыл бұрын
​@@esikazemese Hi! I totally understand where you're coming from, and I'll be glad to answer. You see, many Asian countries are monoethnic. Even Korea, despite having a surge in foreigners, is still made up of almost only Koreans. Of course, if this changes, then Korean media will have to show more diversity. But of now, Asian marketing is targeted towards Asian features because that is literally the vast majority of the people living there. This is why cultural appropriation and other issues can be different in Asian countries. However, in the case of western countries, we know that there is a large diverse population of all races. Western media should reflect this. I'm Korean-American, and even though I see myself in Kdramas, I want to see myself in Hollywood movies, because that is a reflection of myself as well. I think that Asians, and honestly all races should be getting equal representation in western media, because there are millions of these people living in western society. My parents don't care that they aren't represented in blockbuster movies, but I do, because I was born and raised in America. Just because I have the opportunity to see myself in the Asian market doesn't mean that Asians shouldn't be getting representation in western media. At most, it becomes an excuse to brush off racism in the industry, as, "oh you have your own media, why don't you just go there?" Hope this answers your question :)
@mel_zzz_
@mel_zzz_ 3 жыл бұрын
Your answer was on point ... as a Hispanic...I have experienced racism in my ow country for having Native American roots and as well from white Europeans and white North Americans for being brown..for me it’s very difficult try to teach someone why representation matters because I have flashbacks of experiencing racism so I always ending up arguing and insulting everyone. Reading your answer you taught me a lesson, thank you !!!
@skdfoweofwio4765
@skdfoweofwio4765 3 жыл бұрын
​@@mel_zzz_ Awww it sounds like you went through a lot, and I'm so sorry for these experiences. I totally get you, because I have also experienced racism as an Asian, especially after COVID. It can be hard to remain calm while teaching someone something that is traumatic to you, but try to remember that getting angry won't fix anything! It takes time for these things to change, and some people have never had the chance to even learn about these issues. Hope you're doing good!! (•◡•) /
@Amanda94R
@Amanda94R 2 жыл бұрын
Khadija, I legit feel like I have known you FOREVER & I just recently subscribed to your channel. I came across your channel from another youtuber who did a "Pretty Privilege" video and the content you put out, the way you deliver your message and provide a different insight based on your knowledge, the research you put in and your life experiences are all A1.. KEEP BEING YOU SIS!!!
@ParasiteCreekofficial
@ParasiteCreekofficial 11 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for this video. I’m white and while watching the show I wasn’t aware of the colorism and other things you talked about, and this really helped me see where people are coming from so thank you so much and I think we need to talk about this more 🙏🙏
@eddykagia4212
@eddykagia4212 3 жыл бұрын
When she said that, "I hoped to see at least one Asian character..." my heart broke. Coz this means the bar is so low, that one Asian character would be sort of satisfactory. And that is messed up.
@kjo1849
@kjo1849 3 жыл бұрын
she shoud watch an asian show then lots of asians there .
@centraltime3680
@centraltime3680 3 жыл бұрын
@@kjo1849 you couldn't have crafted a dumber reply
@kjo1849
@kjo1849 3 жыл бұрын
@@centraltime3680 Nah its really not fact is in indian most characters are indian, in china most are chinese and so on .
@amidreaming333
@amidreaming333 3 жыл бұрын
@@kjo1849 Dude the point is in the states the number of Asian characters is not proportionate to the number of Asians that actually live in the USA. You can't just pretend like they don't exist and aren't part of society...
@kjo1849
@kjo1849 3 жыл бұрын
@@amidreaming333 Go to asia and say the smae about white people on tv to them and they will rightfully laugh in your face
@laundromatjones4337
@laundromatjones4337 3 жыл бұрын
See, I thought the whole “multiracial utopia” was like, a fantasy take, and that the show was fantasy-realism; and then they have a line about “the queen married the king and that’s why racism is over” and I lost my shit. like... what?? so you’re telling me that one black queen of England is all it took to not only end racism, but within a single generation completely redistribute wealth power??? (so basically, yeah, exactly what you said)
@silversheep1
@silversheep1 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's like it just shatters that suspension of disbelief that they ask you to cultivate for however many episodes, and then they're like "sike!"
@lynnhettrick7588
@lynnhettrick7588 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Lady Danbury hadn't said that, just left as a "multiracial utopia" as you mentioned. I liked it better that way.
@tosheatower
@tosheatower 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment makes ZERO sense. You just said yourself this show was a fantasy take - so fantasy realism where Black, Gay and Asian people are part of Victorian England makes sense, but racism going away after one generation IN A FANTASY SETTING is somehow offensive. What does that even mean??? Either it's fantasy and you have to allow for fantasy elements or it should be ''factual'' in which case the cast should have been all white.
@OReily08080
@OReily08080 3 жыл бұрын
They should have just left it out of the show
@temitopeakanbi9992
@temitopeakanbi9992 3 жыл бұрын
@@tosheatower The showrunners said they wanted the show to speak on race, class, and gender of today. If they didn't make such a big deal about the show had something important to say no one would have said anything. But to telegraph it and make a huge stink for your message to be "All we need is love" just ain't cutting it in these end times
@luiiiandmovieee
@luiiiandmovieee 6 ай бұрын
This video is so good. I'm a white girl and I learned a lot from it. It's a shame that many of these things were not obvious to me before so thank you so much for that change in perspective. It's easy to forget how privileged I am that I see so many people in movies or shows who look like myself. It really matters what we see and how it's presented. I write fantasy stories and I always try to be open minded and have diverse characters. That sentence "you have to work twice to get half" really hit me because I never thought about it, I never needed to and it makes me hate our unfair society so much. It's similar to women and men. When you belong to the privileged group you don't need to think about the not-privileged group. I hope we can change that
@Crawlingdreams418
@Crawlingdreams418 3 ай бұрын
I can relate to that. My compatriots brainwashed a ton of foreigners into believing that we were a diverse utopia when in reality, we were culpable (and still are) of the same crap as the Brits, with the only differences being lack of accountability and the location where it all happened.
@EmilyBHelms
@EmilyBHelms 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more of Simon’s auntie, Lady Danbury, beyond being the Duke of Hastings aunt; and more of Eloise - I gather the books go into each siblings’ romance, but I’d love to just see her being sassy and single, maybe get into a profession (it is a fantasy, even if it’s trying to be a bit historical).
@lime7642
@lime7642 3 жыл бұрын
just realised opera singers actually have speaking voices and they don't just sing everything
@birjisafroz8886
@birjisafroz8886 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, if I had a voice like that, I certainly wouldn't talk normally. So, what you said makes perfect sense ☺️
@Bradley_Lute
@Bradley_Lute 3 жыл бұрын
I was today years old when I learned that too!
@nessie0067
@nessie0067 3 жыл бұрын
I can't figure out if you mean in a play or in real life lol
@theoldschooldiva374
@theoldschooldiva374 3 жыл бұрын
@@birjisafroz8886 I was thinking the same thing 😂
@altacc1724
@altacc1724 2 жыл бұрын
i met someone at a camp who opera sang in front of everyone at the camp (100+ ppl) and she was awesome
@harlowe8691
@harlowe8691 3 жыл бұрын
I can already feel the “yall can never be happy” nonsense but honestly i am so happy people are speaking up and not accepting bare minimum thoughtlessness
@scarlet8078
@scarlet8078 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I miss 90s shows like Cosby, Fresh Prince, Living Single, Mr. Cooper, etc. that had great black casts. & tbh I liked Friends & many shows with white casts. It's fine if it fits the show or is some white folks history like Vikings or British royalty. But nowadays they pander to us & try to put every ethnicity in every show so we don't get to shine in big roles or our own shows. Plus, every time non-whites are on screen it's for "struggle love" or poverty or discrimination. Obv these are real issues, but it's like we're being treated as a "social issue" rather than as human beings. It's like new shows only put folks like me on screen to show struggling, but in the 90s shows we had wealthy black families being happy. It's like we're going backwards now😕
@ademideakinsefunmi8547
@ademideakinsefunmi8547 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comment
@graup1309
@graup1309 3 жыл бұрын
I really think the "yall can never be happy" crowd is also kinda looking at it from the wrong perspective. Like, it's not necessarily about trashing a show. It's about critique and there's no such thing as a perfect show and good showrunners should be open for that critique and be able to take it in. Like with Bridgerton. They tried, some things were alright, some things were good, some things were a bit uninventive and some things were outright problematic. They now have the opportunity to interact with their audience and work with what came back. That's a good thing. That allows for progress.
@trinitysmith2226
@trinitysmith2226 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is the most diverse show I’ve ever seen. You can’t expect perfection especially when no other show is. I’m sorry but y’all see them making an effort and still complaining about shit.
@user-yk6jz6kl5u
@user-yk6jz6kl5u 3 жыл бұрын
but it’s so simple, just make a damn BLACK main character and give a (at least) decent story line.. like that’s literally all we’re asking for and they can’t even do that. everyone is just trying to tiptoe around what we want when it’s so simple
@alericia
@alericia 2 жыл бұрын
This video was SO WELL DONE! It was very funny and eyes-opening to watch, I've just now got to know your channel but ☕ subscribed already :) Also whAT A POWERFUL VOICE OF YOURS 😳
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 2 жыл бұрын
tank u 🥺💕
@beclewis976
@beclewis976 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your commentary on season 2 now that it’s out!
@0x.0y
@0x.0y 2 жыл бұрын
yessss same thoughts
@crymer9051
@crymer9051 3 жыл бұрын
I found it interesting how the only black women who actually spoke on the show were light skinned
@hannap8052
@hannap8052 3 жыл бұрын
What about Lady Danbury?
@spineldove_4794
@spineldove_4794 3 жыл бұрын
And the dukes father?
@shay-shayhandlestolenbyyt
@shay-shayhandlestolenbyyt 3 жыл бұрын
Frfr
@realSimoneCherie
@realSimoneCherie 3 жыл бұрын
The Duke’s father is dark. Adjoa Andoh is not light but she is biracial. I always thought she looked like a cinnamon twin Julie Andrews.
@realSimoneCherie
@realSimoneCherie 3 жыл бұрын
@@spineldove_4794 she said women
@gemmafeltovich6130
@gemmafeltovich6130 3 жыл бұрын
SO MUCH queerbaiting oh my god. especially with the bridgerton kid and the artist guy, like they set up this whole thing and then it was just like "oh yay he learned to accept him"
@Felixuser
@Felixuser 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t he end up being straight? I never understood it
@jeandunham1363
@jeandunham1363 3 жыл бұрын
I thought there was gonna be an awakening at least and they just dropped it...
@Felixuser
@Felixuser 3 жыл бұрын
@ebony b does it say that in the books
@thebookwyrmslair6757
@thebookwyrmslair6757 3 жыл бұрын
Benedict is straight in the books, and his story is my second favorite after Colin's. :)
@sammylee5474
@sammylee5474 3 жыл бұрын
@ebony b I'm confuseddddddd
@winterbreezesrule9583
@winterbreezesrule9583 2 жыл бұрын
Me (has never watched Khadija): Oh, I'm excited to watch this video, I can't wait to hear this show get torn apart even more Khadija: Nieces, nephews, and niblings Me: 🥺(as the kids would put it, /pos)
@Renfield5130
@Renfield5130 2 жыл бұрын
I love, love, love your channel! You got me questioning things and challenging my own deep seated biases. It can be uncomfortable, but it is awesomely eye opening.
@reese508
@reese508 3 жыл бұрын
This week on: representation, but it's kinda shit, actually.
@theturtwig50
@theturtwig50 3 жыл бұрын
The usual in Hollywood.
@yadsewnde8699
@yadsewnde8699 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to tune in next week only to not be surprised just disappointed
@chatnoir9038
@chatnoir9038 3 жыл бұрын
I hate it so much when some white cishets get angry when marginalized groups criticize the quality of representation... "Just be happy you got one gay/ trans/ black character! So what if they were there just to be a prop/ villain/ tortured/ killed off!!"
3 жыл бұрын
Lol FACTS
@gaychase7216
@gaychase7216 3 жыл бұрын
Me waiting on the lgbt storyline that never happens.
@xoluciaxo_3721
@xoluciaxo_3721 3 жыл бұрын
I (kinda) liked the world they build in Bridgerton because like you said, it felt like colorblind casting. And i liked how they didn't really talk about the characters' race at all because its kinda fun to watch something that has nothing to do with race at all sometimes, but then they DID start talking about it in the show and it made absolutely NO SENSE and it threw me off lol. That bullshit story about ‘the white king who fell in love with one of us and ended racism’ or whatever was fucking awful, they should have just not adressed it at all and that wouldve been better
@Kmkmkms
@Kmkmkms 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i love that the black characters were not defined by their struggles from being black i was like wtf when they explained it but i overall liked that black people were treated so casually and had their own individual plots
@lucy-janewalsh9047
@lucy-janewalsh9047 3 жыл бұрын
Hundred percent agree. As if no king has never fallen in love with a black woman before? Didn’t realise it was so easy to erase heavily entrenched blatant and systematic racism. It was so cheap. But I think also if they are going to include people of different races in a colourblind way then why wouldn’t you add all kinds of people?
@lalaking7974
@lalaking7974 3 жыл бұрын
This is about the ONLY comment on this entire thread that I truly agree with! - lol - Yes, yes, & yes! - They should have just let the world be the world. It was stupid and took me out of the show's reality for a moment. Bleck!
@Bluey306
@Bluey306 3 жыл бұрын
yup. there's a film adaptation of Charles Dickens' David Copperfield starring Dev Patel, and there they did colourblind casting with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. at one point there's a character played by a Black woman whose father is played by an Asian man, and it's just treated as it is. there doesn't always have to be explanations for these things, particularly if the story is about something else entirely. just don't whitewash characters that are already established as bipoc (bc representation of bipoc played by bipoc still has ways to go) and you're good to go!
@xoluciaxo_3721
@xoluciaxo_3721 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucy-janewalsh9047 omg yes, either dont adress it at all or adress it properly, because claiming that 1 man falling in love with a black woman is enough to end racism as a whole is wrong on so many levels, even if its just a tv show
@melchiorantoine6948
@melchiorantoine6948 2 жыл бұрын
Lupita Nyong'o having European-like features is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard.
@kumarvikramaditya9636
@kumarvikramaditya9636 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@cynthiapadilla3881
@cynthiapadilla3881 2 жыл бұрын
I love your take on featurism it’s the first time I’ve heard someone talk about it and I think it has merit. Keep pondering.
@alliraa
@alliraa 3 жыл бұрын
I had this exact same experience watching Crazy Rich Asians. Rich/Protagonists = pale with english accent. Antagonists = darker complexions and english with a heavy accent
@karmeeleon
@karmeeleon 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that they completely ignored certain ethnic groups. I know the film is based on a book but the movie seemed to portray singapore as plainly "asians=chinese". When in reality, Singapore is a MELTING pot with all kinds of asians. If anything, (as a south asian) it felt like the movie perpetuated the stereotype that asians only mean east asians.
@ihopeyouchokeonaplastickst7381
@ihopeyouchokeonaplastickst7381 3 жыл бұрын
Yiiikes you're right, it never even crossed my mind.
@oh.hey.2045
@oh.hey.2045 3 жыл бұрын
@@ihopeyouchokeonaplastickst7381 who’s the guy in your profile pic? Asking for a friend 👀
@smilee2566
@smilee2566 3 жыл бұрын
@@karmeeleon I would talk about how all asians have alot of colorism ingrained in their societies and how the "developed" lighter asian countries look down upon SEA and especially south asian(desi) folk based on the image the white man has crafted for us but y'all ain't ready for that conversation.
@ihopeyouchokeonaplastickst7381
@ihopeyouchokeonaplastickst7381 3 жыл бұрын
@@oh.hey.2045 Myung Dae, the only guy i'd let top me 😔. From Bj Alex (he's from the side ship) cw: it's a yaoi lol
@destinyphillip3184
@destinyphillip3184 3 жыл бұрын
I'm tired. When will shows stop using POC as decorations for their "diverse and inclusive" cast agenda.
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously...
@sofisofi8141
@sofisofi8141 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing makes black people happy
@alexbebout7791
@alexbebout7791 3 жыл бұрын
They seriously want us to believe that the most racist and exclusionary period of time and class of people were freely interacting with POC? They deserve more. Shonda Rimes can do better smh
@veritorossi
@veritorossi 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Also a Regency period drama is not the right time period to tell a story with Black characters, at least not they way the story is told. Also what would Latin or Asian people do in a British Regency period drama?? History is vast and stories can be told in many time periods and places. Why force the story??
@yougotgamesonyourphone6947
@yougotgamesonyourphone6947 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofisofi8141 Why are you watching a video that centers around a controversial race topic done by a black woman to bitch about something not making black people happy?
@kasandrarobins4938
@kasandrarobins4938 10 ай бұрын
The sun came out to remind us you're absolutely stunning. As if we could forget 😍😍😍
@deneshae4494
@deneshae4494 2 жыл бұрын
OMG!! Love, love, love this..and the amount of research you do for your videos! Spending my Sunday bingeing your video essays!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@brwnsuga.hokage4009
@brwnsuga.hokage4009 3 жыл бұрын
I've notice the "trend" of always casting lightskin instead of a variety. I would LOVE to see more Asians-not just Asian but just a diverse of complexion.
@nanamiharuka3269
@nanamiharuka3269 3 жыл бұрын
True! Hollywood is still forgetting Asian people can be dark skinned too, and that Indian people are Asian, and the fact that England colonized India and there were no Indian people in this show is another X
@Nihilist_Porcupine
@Nihilist_Porcupine 3 жыл бұрын
For real, I spent some time in southern India, and was shocked by how dark the people were. The majority of them were darker than most people I know who identify as Black in the united states (including myself). I'm like, where is the representation for these folks? You never see them on TV. There or here. This could have been a perfect opportunity.
@mophead_xu
@mophead_xu 3 жыл бұрын
@@nanamiharuka3269 because so many people still think asian = only east asia lmaoooo. like i genuinely believe anyone who thought "asian" and didn't immediately default to korea/china/japan are either 1) asian themselves and not from those regions or 2) close with people who're asian but not from those regions.
@rinamoore9721
@rinamoore9721 3 жыл бұрын
@@mophead_xu also, while kind of on the topic of East Asians, a lot aren’t as light as the industry portrays them to be. Generally speaking, they usually are a bit lighter in complexion than South Asians. But many can have a darker complexions too. They aren’t all vampires.
@Lostinmyhead23
@Lostinmyhead23 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nihilist_Porcupine that has a lot to do with the caste system. It’s no coincidence that the people who are lowest on the caste system are dark skinned and usually work horrible jobs. Also take into colorism as well. It’s sad all around
@maryam-zk4vy
@maryam-zk4vy 3 жыл бұрын
You're literally speaking my mind. I was speaking with my friends today about how Hollywood knows what blackness looks like in men but when it comes to women they start acting stupid. Take for instance all the Black marvel male superheroes, they are all played by unambiguous dark skin BLACK men in their live actions but for storm(who is a darkskin black woman), only BIRACIAL or ambiguous women have played her.
@thaddeusnewton7370
@thaddeusnewton7370 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. I'm a big X-men fan and we definitely got a whitewashed storm. Fun fact is that Angela Bassett was originally intended for the role. I forget why she didn't do it but yeah it's very true. Going forward I am hopeful Hollywood will change it. The new Storm should definitely be a dark skinned woman. Anna Diop would be a good choice
@dren5810
@dren5810 3 жыл бұрын
I dont exactly agree with this at least not presently. Black panther did a lot for not only highlighting dark skin black women as love interests but also fleshed out, complex and strong characters with Shuri, Nakia and Okoye becoming fan favorites because of the film, we have definitely made progress. Now that is just one movie so we will have to see how this all pans out moving forward.
@jessielandsburg2680
@jessielandsburg2680 3 жыл бұрын
I recently saw an even more whitewashed version of Storm in a comic (she literally looked like a white woman, she was unrecognizable) I believe there was a video done about it but in older comics she was dark skinned. Her hair and features were still Eurocentric though.
@thaddeusnewton7370
@thaddeusnewton7370 3 жыл бұрын
@@dren5810 Yeah true black panther is a good recent example. Hopefully Marvel keep it up. I know black panther had black writers and creators who were aware of the issue, whoever is making the new X men may not be as aware of issues like this but hopefully as Storm is supposed to be half Kenyan and half Black American they won't cast a light skin mixed looking actress to do the role
@nyikomaswanganyi5983
@nyikomaswanganyi5983 3 жыл бұрын
Marvel didn't make the x-men movies so this isn't right example to infer. Fox made those movies. Marvel hadn't bought fox yet. But I know the phenomenon you're talking about.
@SebastianSeanCrow
@SebastianSeanCrow 2 жыл бұрын
12:07 that’s exactly how it feels with voice acting! As an adult I found out that the voice for Kaname Tôsen in bleach is a white actor and it felt... I can’t describe how I feel about it exactly but it’s upsetting. I never pictured the actor to be white, I just assumed that he was black like Tôsen cuz that’s what made sense in my head and while it’s anime English dubs a lot of the casting in a lot of shows is very white even where it wouldn’t even make sense. Like yes it’s a cartoon but still
@kevinmitchelljr.6734
@kevinmitchelljr.6734 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you were an opera singer! Makes me so happy. I have always loved your voice.
3 жыл бұрын
Not the white man who thinks he has something to say on race and class from a unique perspective.
@soundsoftheheart3164
@soundsoftheheart3164 3 жыл бұрын
Right!! Huge eye roll 😒
@aura9773
@aura9773 3 жыл бұрын
SHSJNDKJSNKJSN BRO I CRINGED AT THE MENTAL IMAGE ALONE😭😭
@etorresrodz
@etorresrodz 3 жыл бұрын
When Chris (or any wealthy white man for that matter) says “topics that are relevant and important” it’s a subtle way to say: topics that SELL and will get me famous at the expense of underserved or historically oppressed people, it’s more exploitation and nothing else.
3 жыл бұрын
@@etorresrodz Deadass "a topic I just found out about and is cool"
@Shtotagdetotryot1
@Shtotagdetotryot1 3 жыл бұрын
Black people playing victim is a unique perspective? Lol ok those white men are spitting facts
@spilledteaissadtea3037
@spilledteaissadtea3037 3 жыл бұрын
Me who doesn’t even know what Bridgertone is: Ah yes I will watch a 30 min video discussing this shows flaws.
@eyexha
@eyexha 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo same T^T
@125loopy
@125loopy 3 жыл бұрын
Lol exactly. I had no interest in watching it from the trailer because I saw no dark characters but I love this video lol
@mynameisirrelevant8257
@mynameisirrelevant8257 3 жыл бұрын
Lol me
@jimjam1948
@jimjam1948 3 жыл бұрын
Bruhh I didn’t I see this comment before I made mine
@uberliner503
@uberliner503 2 жыл бұрын
Love you, love this. Here's hoping Shondaland is listening. You make incredible points about color/ism/blindness and featurism, especially since English wealth came from colonialism. Glad to see that season 2 featured brilliant south Asian women. If there is a place for everyone in Bridgerton, I hope we will get a queer love story soon!
@yaanelan
@yaanelan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What you said about not being responsible about the first thought that pops into your head but being intentional about the second thought just... uff it hit something deeply spiritual in me. And it has nothing to do with the topic of this video but rather something I’ve been beating myself up over, knowing I was being irrational but still, that was just something I needed to hear today so thank you! Just thank you. Just thank you :)
@deli5194
@deli5194 3 жыл бұрын
Not just sitcoms but like 1990-2005 animations were going hard on representation in a way that didnt feel too promotional. like lilo and stitch and stuff.
@louisacatalina5248
@louisacatalina5248 3 жыл бұрын
I wish that scene where tourists objectify lilo and stitch as they are just walking made it into the movie
@jols._.9835
@jols._.9835 3 жыл бұрын
And Proud Family!
@MinorKey135
@MinorKey135 2 жыл бұрын
Class of 3000
@gingerdog8203
@gingerdog8203 2 жыл бұрын
Winx Club, W.I.T.C.H
@charliejohanssen7421
@charliejohanssen7421 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah was going thru JetEx and shit the other day and like, waaaaay more diversity than I thought there would be.
@miraenofficial
@miraenofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I’m ********finally********* finding the great black creators on this platform
@deli5194
@deli5194 3 жыл бұрын
same. i always see angry white boys. but i searched stuff about black hair care for some reason lol and my algorithm changed
@Bradley_Lute
@Bradley_Lute 3 жыл бұрын
Kat Blaque is pretty great too
@Grexsome
@Grexsome 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@idiotwhodoesthings
@idiotwhodoesthings 3 жыл бұрын
ItzKeisha and Kennie JD are both really awesome too. Kennie’s one of my favorite KZfaqrs. She does a lot of commentary videos but also talks about current events as they arise. Keisha (though I haven’t seen some of her most recent videos) talks a lot about news on social media and issues like racism, homophobia&biphobia respectively, and how problematic certain creators are. Highly recommend both of them though
@patrickscannell6370
@patrickscannell6370 3 жыл бұрын
Good observation
@xemmyQ
@xemmyQ Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a follow up video for season 2, how they responded to feedback and criticisms, a lot of which you made here, and your response to what they changed or didnt change in regards to all of that :>
@MandaMikala
@MandaMikala 2 жыл бұрын
Love the vibes here and the conversations! Thank you for the video essays!! 🥰
@zabbers
@zabbers 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like south asians are still waaay underrepresented in most things
@treanishajackson2295
@treanishajackson2295 3 жыл бұрын
They are, as a blk american when i use to watch Bollywood movies, they looked like white women
@weruleyoudrool
@weruleyoudrool 3 жыл бұрын
And if they are, they only include Indians and not other south Asians. Like hello... other ones exist. I’ve seen Indians in TV but they’re always a caricature of an Indian person (like exaggerated accent, nerdy, etc.), which isn’t fair.
@leunoia7523
@leunoia7523 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@maya-cc2sx
@maya-cc2sx 3 жыл бұрын
They're underrepresented in their own movie industry, what do you expect
@maya-cc2sx
@maya-cc2sx 3 жыл бұрын
@Kiss the color of a constellation they don't even completely feature Indians - it's the colonial hangover, they've started whitewashing their gods and goddesses. But yeah, it's not the complete south Asia, it is however the most influential film industry in the region, if they changed themselves and the self loathing ended then it'd probably do a lot for representation elsewhere
@mar2982
@mar2982 3 жыл бұрын
honestly the scene between daphne and simon when she forces him to try to have a child with her bothered me so much. it’s literal sexual assault and rape and they tried to make daphne the victim afterwards and never talked about how simon was feeling
@janiquest-laurent6133
@janiquest-laurent6133 2 жыл бұрын
Khadija, you're brilliant and beautiful, thank you for sharing this information and your insights. I hope Shonda and Chris see this and create a character for you with lines and roots. Also hoping for speaking roles for south east asian folks, that'd be sweet. Chris could really create something special and deeply moving if he takes these points into consideration.
@Spamhard
@Spamhard 2 жыл бұрын
I really love that comment you made about not being necessarily responsible for your first thought but being damn well responsible for your second. The amount of fucking times some initial thought pops into my head about something or someone and I'm just immediately "what the fuck is wrong with you?" I often beat myself up about it pretty badly, but I'm trying to remember that the corrections I make afterwards are just as important. Reprogramming your mind from a lifetime of weird ass societal influence is hard as hell. I remember watching a documentary about teens with tourettes syndrome, and I remember one teen explaining how it's a nightmare for them because they blurt out the first thing that comes to their mind, even if they don't agree with it or know it's stupid/wrong/untrue, and I still think about that all the time. They went to an airport and kept blurting out the word "bomb!" really loudly. Just that whole thing reminds me so much of that concept of your first thought not entirely being your own.
@kailahelle2242
@kailahelle2242 3 жыл бұрын
i thought it was just me with the queer-baiting. i really thought that Eloise and Benedict would have the gay sibling bond. but alas, they didn’t bc Benedict turned out to not be gay and Eloise wasn’t in a relationship with her best friend *sigh*
@carlyhickman630
@carlyhickman630 3 жыл бұрын
Yep I thought Eloise, Benedict and Penelope were gay or bi so was v confused
@roof4646
@roof4646 3 жыл бұрын
same it really disappointed me actually
@poopityscoop839
@poopityscoop839 3 жыл бұрын
Benedict has big Bi energy to me and I hope they explore that in the later seasons and to me, Eloise has Asexual vibes or maybe closeted Lesbian. Here’s to hoping I’m right.
@deli5194
@deli5194 3 жыл бұрын
girl the first episode the second eloise came out of her house and saw penelope i was like these two are gay and in love.
@lauramartin7675
@lauramartin7675 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who red the books would've known that wasn't going to happen. Sexuality? Yes, but all very hetero...with macho misogynistic men
@kellyinCT09
@kellyinCT09 3 жыл бұрын
"You're not responsible for your first thought, thats society,, but you are responsible for your second thought and your action afterwards." 👏👏👏👏
@OReily08080
@OReily08080 3 жыл бұрын
That's really good. We can't really help our biases, or perceptions, but acting on them can really show who you are. I like that line
@charlotteevans103
@charlotteevans103 3 жыл бұрын
I think might just steal that quote. SOooo true!
@thepeopleslast2579
@thepeopleslast2579 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlotteevans103 it was a post on Tumblr long ago. I remember it blowing my mind the first time I heard it, but I say it alot now because of that.
@kellyinCT09
@kellyinCT09 3 жыл бұрын
@@OReily08080 ♥️ My mother used to say it all the time, I've passed it along to my sons, Its definitely one that makes me stop and think before I act, hopefully it does the same for them.
@kellyinCT09
@kellyinCT09 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlotteevans103 It was my mom's favorite to remind us to watch how we act. I dont know the original author though!
@Lempetu
@Lempetu 2 жыл бұрын
Right now waiting for your season two review!. I discover some interesting things seeing your video. Love it!❤️
@helene5160
@helene5160 2 жыл бұрын
You said everything that was in my mind about the show. From the queer baiting to the colourism to the having dark skinned extra as props. You said everything on my mind
@Layra151301
@Layra151301 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Colombian. My representations only ever includes drugs, terrorism, maaayyybeee a maid at times. I usually just let myself feel represented through black girls, Mexican girls, and even asian girls at times. :/ I never get any real representation. I let my myself feel proud when I see a black girl doing her thing. If I don't do this then idk ya know it feels shitty haha... BUTTT, i do understand how important it all is and I'm glad it is being talked about so much.
@fromlissawithlove
@fromlissawithlove 3 жыл бұрын
You deserve positive representation also Queen 💜👑
@cowmooves4057
@cowmooves4057 3 жыл бұрын
^
@patrichelle117
@patrichelle117 3 жыл бұрын
Or Sofía Vergara the stereotype of hot and careless Latina because we are only bombshells objects of desire..
@calliasroom
@calliasroom 3 жыл бұрын
yes! I'm Colombian too and its alwayyys drugs or maids or something- i totally feel you
@annalabagaba
@annalabagaba 3 жыл бұрын
Right!!! It bothers me as a Colombian that whenever I hear “diversity,” I assume I’m not included. Which on the one hand, I get, it’s one country. But the fact that “diversity” barely includes any latinx people at best but seems never to go south of Mexico (unless you are akin Manuel Miranda or JLo) has become more and more problematic
@BleachBlue04
@BleachBlue04 3 жыл бұрын
My main problem was closer to the end of the show. The toxic relationship the duke had with his dad was swept quite swiftly and insensitively under the rug. And I’m saying that incredibly nicely. Suddenly, the couple has a baby and he’s apparently over what his dad did to him?? That’s... not how toxic relationships work. Healing from them takes so much longer than that. OH man, I was UPSET at the ending.
@barbiechyqa9192
@barbiechyqa9192 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they handle that in the next season
@BleachBlue04
@BleachBlue04 3 жыл бұрын
@@barbiechyqa9192 I’m hoping that too but I have a gut feeling they won’t with how quickly the issue was resolved. They really made the duke look insensitive just because the main chick wanted a child (along with the fact that it’s EXPECTED for them to have one) and invalidated his trauma. I know someone who has a father whom they’ve disowned and watching that was hard tbh
@rosemichel7542
@rosemichel7542 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! The love conquers all BS was irritating.
@joanpeart6238
@joanpeart6238 3 жыл бұрын
OMG. This is a movie done from a book written in 2004! A book series , fiction for Gods sake!! Sorry you are not part of the 82mil people.
@barbiechyqa9192
@barbiechyqa9192 3 жыл бұрын
@@joanpeart6238 what's your point Joan
@Melanie-xc4fi
@Melanie-xc4fi 7 ай бұрын
This whole vid is just ON POINT! I thank the algorithm for bringing me here! Annd yes, Living Single was EVERYTHING! I loved all the different female AND male characters.
@savannahcoleman5672
@savannahcoleman5672 Жыл бұрын
Halfway through and love the amount of thought, resources and humor in here. I was wondering if there was an updated video about season 2 and how it handles some of these things and if the overall opinion would still be the same... Best, Savannah.
@rachelm.3173
@rachelm.3173 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing that these shows refuse to do is cast an unambiguous black couple. The man can be dark skinned, but best believe the woman will be lighter than a brown paper bag; or definitely biracial. Leave it to the media you would think dark skin women, and black couples don't exist. I still watch Living Single...the cast was fire! Your self promotion at the end😂🤣. You got pipes!🤎
@laurad-l-m814
@laurad-l-m814 3 жыл бұрын
The boxer and her wife are a BLACK COUPLE. but Yeahhhhhhh complain.
@moimoimoi2585
@moimoimoi2585 3 жыл бұрын
Preach They have a agenda against the black family
@dminor5199
@dminor5199 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurad-l-m814 You need some glasses 👓
@laurad-l-m814
@laurad-l-m814 3 жыл бұрын
@@dminor5199 well I DOUBLED CHECK AND YEAHHHHHHH I NEED SOME GLASSES 😂😂😂 They still a Black couple so 😏
@dminor5199
@dminor5199 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurad-l-m814 Since the woman is biracial, i don't think they are a black couple unless you're a one drop ruler.
@Cnichal
@Cnichal 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a comment on Twitter that I think is very apt; Roughly- -Why do dark skin men make fun of light skin men, when they are always in a hurry to create them?
@MM-lo2dk
@MM-lo2dk 3 жыл бұрын
You just blew my mind. A new narrative that can be an eye opening dialogue. In a Positive way. 🙏🏾
@e.l.lucychiron
@e.l.lucychiron 3 жыл бұрын
Dark skinned men: Here ye! By my dark skin I am most virile, but my light skinned sons will be treated as more of a person than I.
@joeannchaney1219
@joeannchaney1219 3 жыл бұрын
WHEW!!!!!
@daijahfanning376
@daijahfanning376 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s deep
@BeautifulEarthJa
@BeautifulEarthJa 3 жыл бұрын
wow, so true
@simrahsabiha6378
@simrahsabiha6378 2 жыл бұрын
Your video was eye opening especially the stuff about featurism and colourism it literally shook me because altho i am preety aware i didnt realize until this video i have always took proud in loving and accepting ppl the way they are no matter what they look like but lately i have been struggling with it and tat has been eating me because i know thats not right and i wanna do what i preach but u saying the first judgemental thought comes in ur mind is not u and society really comforted thanku so much, this video has helped me tremendously .
@technicolorsoultheory3924
@technicolorsoultheory3924 2 жыл бұрын
I took the advice from another creator to make the algorithm work for me and purposefully seak out poc creaters. Ur channel has expanded my perspective infinitally, thanks for the hard work
@Queen-of-the-Burbs
@Queen-of-the-Burbs 3 жыл бұрын
This is why we need shows based on books written by and about people of color. Instead of asking for a seat at the table, we need to bring the table and the damn chairs. Period.
@ima.m.1658
@ima.m.1658 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@gabbym333
@gabbym333 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I love that. Not just bring the chairs, but the table too.
@Kmkmkms
@Kmkmkms 3 жыл бұрын
this show is mainly written by a women of color, shonda rhimes, she wrote greys anatomy and how to get away with murder
@jaylan7847
@jaylan7847 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kmkmkms Shonda Rhimes is not a dark skinned black women. The two shows you just mentioned by her also seem to have similarities to this one in how they handle diversity. I might be wrong though.
@ginabeana3469
@ginabeana3469 3 жыл бұрын
PERIOD
@kirstenstone7818
@kirstenstone7818 3 жыл бұрын
As a Native woman, I can relate to that feeling of never being able to see someone that looks like you in shows or movies unless they come with extreme stereotypes. Film likes to keep Native people back in the 1800s and doesn't feel the need to put us in any other role, or worst case scenario they cast a white person to play Native roles instead of Native actors (ex: Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger and Taylor Lautner in Twilight). We make up less than 1% of America, but we are still here
@pink1237480
@pink1237480 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I see what you mean I agree as well.
@NovaKnight_
@NovaKnight_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely ignorant but, how much of the population are actors? I tried Googling actors because I'm worried about how Netflix is going to cast the Water Tribes in their Avatar: The Last Airbender adaption, I didn't get much results but I'd like to see more representation. I don't want them to be whitewashed, I hope there are aspiring Native actors that are ready to audition. It would be an amazing opportunity for the Native community if Netflix took the initiative to cast them properly as Indigenous people.
@michaelotis223
@michaelotis223 3 жыл бұрын
representation matters!
@actuallyterry
@actuallyterry 3 жыл бұрын
Omg. I didnt realise that Taylor Lautner wasn't native American. I'm African. The only time I saw Native American people is on Tik Tok ( I know it's not the best source.) Then I started looking for youtube videos on native Americans and the first things I find is some racist BS with a young white guy spitting on an older Native American man during their peaceful protests.
@kirstenstone7818
@kirstenstone7818 3 жыл бұрын
@@actuallyterry i love that people are sharing our culture on TikTok and it gives other people a chance to learn about us and our cultures. And a lot of people thought Taylor Lautner was native but he’s actually full white lol
@maryjahns7803
@maryjahns7803 4 ай бұрын
Love your take on this show. I would love an update video with season two and the queen's prequel story
@beccasanders8410
@beccasanders8410 Жыл бұрын
We need a follow up of your thoughts after season 2! I loved this video. Thank you for sharing!
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