Bretonia vs Tomb Kings DLC would be perfect. Allows to introduce changes needed for both factions, thematic, feets the Old World sterter sets. It felt so wierd that we didn't get it when Old World launched, considering that success of TTW was not a he least important factor in it's revival

i def disagree with some of the roster things like the empire, races are supposed to have weaknesses and strengths, a weakness doesnt mean its bad it just adds flavor and makes the race play a specific playstyle. empire is not meant to have a strong front line they are just dudes their strengths lie in their technology and diversity. in no world should the empire ever have a front line that can compare to dwarfs or chaos

Khorne or at least skarbrand should drop the money upkeep and swicth to skulls as an upkeep for units

Don't understand how Beastmen need a complete rework. Lords need help and differentition

Hot takes (maybe) but beastmen is already solid imo.

Skaven doesn't need shit. Skaven have SO MANY DLC, so many lords, so many interesting mechanics, starts in every fucking climate, etc. AND they are going to get ANOTHER LORD. Skaven need NOTHING

Kind of disagree with Chaos Dwarfs. As a race they are perfect, but the factions are too similar. They should be given some meaningful faction effects

I really like the actual Woodelves tbh

Lizardmen deserve a teleport/stalk stance inside Lustria (like Alith Anar has everywhere outside of Ulthuan).

you having beastmen as needing a complete rework is quite the hot take. I havent seen anyone else say the same, quite the opposite. they are my favorite to play and I think they are in a good place outside of minor things

So what races do you think need a rework? Costin: Yes

It seems like you want every race to have every kind of unit. Empire and Bretonnia don't need strong infantry, just to name one thing. I don't even use infantry in the later stages of a Louen campaign, since grail knights and hippogryphs can steamroll basically everything.

Ogres need a full rework asap! I love them on the battlefield but campaign is trash! Sort out the awful camp and food mechanics and give them some new units! Looking forward to the upcoming Ogre DLC!

Are you sure you don’t want a totally new game? 😂

My only problem with current Dwarfs is how favored they are in autoresolve. I've had the AR give me victories with few casualties against armies that in reality would be a challenge to beat. Recently played Malachai's campaign. Only really had to fight quest battles. The AR was so friendly, i hardly fought any battles manually the entire campaign and it was on Legendary/Very Hard

Can you elaborate on the Beastmen placement, do you mean their mechanics are lacking or are they just weak or both. I don’t really see any other changes to Beastmen other than just number changes I guess. That placement is kinda unexpected.

Wow I disagree with a lot more than I expected, I think Cathay is near perfect, maybe some slight modifications to the compass, and vamp lords just need a change to blood kiss system, while vamp coast feels so bad to play it needs to be redone from the ground up, as always thanks for the great content costin

I think this tierlist could do with an extra tier "WH3 rebalance patch" nothing is inherently wrong, they worked fine in ME, just need a rebalance for the IE map. I think that would suck in Vampire Coast, Beastmen, maybe bretonia too

Skavens arent perfect. They need to be updated to the wh3 standards Stormvermins being complete shit and yet taking 2 turns to recruit is terrible, youre not only at disadvantage for taking them and yet it also takes 2 turns Tretch as a stormvermin faction is worse at stormvermins than queek because he gets frenzy for them and all faction recruit them in 1 turn Also Clan Mors and Pestilense need the same treatment that Empire got Something for Queek like taking heads quests that gives him or his facton buffs and Skrolk could get old plague mechanic that nurgle had Ah and Queek not having Ska as his legendary hero is literally criminal People crying over skaven are crazy, I want to remind you that Skavens are the only race from wh2 that got only 1 legendary lord as a flc not 2 They still owe us a flc lord

Damn you are wrong about the beastmen xD

I disagree no Slaanesh: I think if they only made it so that their Vassals could never rebel and followed you on every war (+2500 to them liking you) that would be it, giving it the flavour of slaving others to your will.

For the future you could change perfect to "leave it to modders". Specifically for races in such a good place right now that it'd be w waste of resources to try and officially rework them.

Wood elves and warriors of chaos are perfect. Making them a defensive race that receives massive buffs in forests makes sense since they know the terrain. Maybe giving them nerds if they leave forests or something.

What we really need is DLC featuring Yin-Yin + Vampire COAST LL + rework. Vampire Counts need their "Bloodlines" DLC as Loremaster of Sotek suggested. That would be awesome. Champions of Chaos like DLC would suit them really well!

Hear me out. Orcs and Goblins have a giant rock golem and dwarfs don't. That feels wrong.

Demons of chaos needs a rework such that Be'lakor can come home. then alongside that daniel needs to be made more interresting

Lokir should have some kind of Black Ark crafting work shop thing. Maybe something like Ikit's workshop. Higher levels gives you benefits like startung with buildings already and/or special units and buildings. Not sure what else to do for the dark elves, but theyve become one of my favorite factions lately

The only thing that needs a complete rework urgently is the AI.

I disagree with a lot of what you say but I appreciate your perspective and it helps me rethink my positions. Thanks for the teir list.

dwarfs need some campaign reworks the age of reckoning system is awful

I still hold out hope that they'll go back to Kislev, Tzeentch, and Cathay (There's no reason to play MIao Ying or Zhao Ming with the existence of Yuan Bo, full stop.) post ToD to give them the reworks they needed from SoC, and CA has shown us with ToD that they're capable of giving. Katarin and Kostaltyn are horrible uphill battles in the early game (Malakai's AI sucks so he's only a minor distraction for Throgg) given that Throt AI gets Ghoritch by like turn 4 and has 4 armies rolling around by turn 10 (this being on Normal campaign difficulty mind you). I would LOVE to see Zhao Ming get something like the Nuln Gunnery School or Ikit's Workshop with the Alchemist research of warpstone. Big Army abilities or buffs to his melee units would be cool. Giving Miao Ying a bonus building slot on each of the Wall's Gates with special landmarks for just her and some mechanics revolving around her being the Emperor's favorite daughter (as she keeps reminding us) would be really nice. I love playing Cathay, but there's no reason to not play Yuan Bo.

Chorfs and Dwarves are the best. I get that Chorfs play very similar but their mechanics are so great its worthy of the "perfect". The tension and strategy is present and it doesnt become and end turn simulator until way into the campaign.

I agree with ur tierlist for the most part, I´m just not sure if the empire needs stronger melee infantry. Every faction does have some weaknesses. If u give good infantry to the empire they have no weaknesses anymore. In addtion their frontline isn´t by far skaven like weak.

Dwarfs need to have more competition in their faction bc Now Only Malakai is worth the start because of his strong buffs to artillery.. His campaign mechanics, while Grombrindal Has nothing even close so strong to Malakai.

I think a lot of this campaigns dont regard you for expanding, i was playing nkari since i never play slaanesh and it was a pain in the ass, i just wanted to end the campaign because it was boring, in the other hand yesterday i play belegar because a i wanted to play the changes and the book of groodges its one of the best mechanics in the game so much fun completing all the groodges my only problem with the book its the absurd amount of groodges required to confederate other legendary lords it was faster by diplomacy than by the book and thats a problem.

Man Vlad and Manfred need to be in the empire if you work towards it.

I think if a race fits under "boring" then that is a race that needs more work done to it. So the wood elfs def need an update imo. I feel like their thing should be about spreading the forest to all corners of the warhammer world! I would say that there is a lot of work that all the races could use and I haven't played the chaos dwarfs but the Skaven do need a lot of work done to them. Clan Pestilens alone, I have heard a good number of times people say that they should have nurgles plague making mechanic. I have to say that I find this list really oddly set out. Like Vampire Coast is in "Race Rework because apparently their lords are fine. But Tzeentch, Tomb Kings and Kislev are in "Complete Rework" So none of their lords are fine? I also don't get how the Empire is only in "Roster" They just had a rework yes but from my understanding two factions in the Empire were ignored and I have been told that Markus Wulfhart could some TLC. I believe it has gotten so bad that Slaanesh has been called on to aid him. So yes, I find the list itself very odd. Would make more sense to me to have it set out like "desperately needs rework" "Could use a rework" "Areas cound use a rework/change" "Mostly fine". Or something closer to that effect! (Edit thought after) But yeah, your list! up to you how to do it!

Interesting video for sure, but there a couple of things I think missed: For Skaven, I think the must is to give Clan Pestilans rework because they are only out of 4 great clans that doesn't have some uniuqe/good mechanics. For Dwarfs and Greenskins, I think both have same problem, my favorite race is dwarfs and I would love to see some roster addition in terms of war machine get them the tank like modded version but that's all subjective, same for Orcs, would love to see Orcs roster DLC (we only got two goblins DLC), but MAIN point here are LORD mechanics. Both races have one lord that have true mechanics and all others are just buff certain type of unit... For example Dwarfs: Grombrindrial needs teleportation/coming to reinforcement something like when Karl sends help, he can come when its tough situation, Belegar needs some type of mechanics call in arms, where clans joins him in his cause, or send him some units to join his cause depending on some factors, Thorek needs to have additional forge, so that you can really feel with him that you buff those units by giving them runic armor, weapons, stuff, same for heroes... Grudgebearer okay gets bonus when you fulfil grudges lets say that's fine. Slayer King- can have for each slayed monster it gets buffs to the units and heroes, dragons buff, buff for deamons .... depending what you slay Greenskins- on top of their unique Waaghs for each lord... Grimgor-someting like age of reckoning that makes you play really aggressive and that you have to fight, more you fight you give orcs some bonuses... Cause legend says " Who knows what WOULD happened if Grimgor didn't fight for 3 days" Azag- hmm not sure, he is like greatest strategist but don't know what exactly would be good, certainly someone have some idea Skarsnik- needs to be some sneaky , ambush type mechanics, he can ambush you as he attack or something like set it up in advance, or he can simply track you in some way which would allow him to easier set up ambushes. Green Prophet- same as Azag not sure about those two, but to add them something on top of it definitely. Of course this will never be done by CA, but maybe mods will do us a favor :D. If you add this for both races I think you could consider them completed even without any roster changes. So Hopefully one day, we get something like this!

Chorfs definitely need more units

You saying Oxyotl is the best campaign of the Lizardmen, but Oxyotl is also the most buggy campaign :x Slowing your system down, regular crashes the game, his Blowpipe and Cold Blooded Ability never come off cooldown and Coatls still unable to cloak units underneath them ever since the "rework" they made for them during 4.0 :x

I cannot agree about VCounts. Their main problem is that they are balanced for multiplayer, not for campaign. Their core features in WH1 were healing, strong lords/heroes, a few good units, auras and wind of death. In WH 3 their lords/heroes are not strong, everyone has healing and auras, their units are trash , only wind of death is still good.

For me Beastmen are fun, just need to rework legendary lords except Taurox.

Wait wait wait did bro just say we're getting thanquol !!!!!?

I love woodelves race mechanics, but i cannot find legendary lord that i like. Drycha, durthu and sisters are too focused on recruting certain units and i absolutely hate Orion upkeep reduction bonus.

Skaven and dawi my 2 belowed races, and i agree they are just perfect xD

After more than 10k hours in total war I dont agree with a single one

lizardmen are probably the most middling race in the game. not bad but just uninspiring and really lack any mechanics. the geomantic web needs to be made interesting

just give daniel customization feature to the demon princes that malakor can create

I think a lot of races that are good have bad factions though like the Dwarves have Belegar who definitely needs a rework. Most of the Warhammer 1 races need reworked skill trees as well. They just have way worse ones than the 2 or 3 races.

Disagreement on vampire counts, they lack campaign variety as you said, but their bigger problem is the redundant bloodline system. It is a poor implemation of a bloodline system, they are supposed to be close to if not as different as Khorne, Nurgle, Slanesh and Titsnitch. The way it worked and all the flavor and mechanics they could have taken from 6th edition would make any Vampire count campaign very repayable. Even better if they added the Elector Counts system to Vlad/Isabella, as that is Vlad's whole stick. Manfred and all Nagash book nerds would like/need a rework, hopefully that comes with the confirmed ish Neferata and Nagash DLC towards the end of the cycle. However I think they should Ignore Daniel, it would be a waste of time and recourses to "fix" him

Tbh too many races are in complete rework tier, let's be real we are not getting complete reworks of 10 races even if they had to be reworked. Hopefully, Norsca gets one, Vampire Counts are outdated even tho they are strong and Bretonnia is sad and boring. I feel most of the lords need tweaks and changes like Karl and Gelt got in TOD update.

skaven need campaign reworks similar to dark elves throt and ikit r good but the rest suck

You said at the end "we do know we'll have at least 12 racial reworks going forward" can you explain how you know that? That would be a good thing but I would have expected like half of that or less.

I want to play Slanesh... I just fucking hate the campaign. Doing battles with them is actually fun, everything else sucks

Who is op after round 1? I agree WoC are easy but not win on round 1 easy. Edit: almost none of these were elaborated on. Like why are the lizardmen bad besides their tech tree and web?

Lets be real, noone pay money for most of that reworks and thats kinda metter if we are talking about rework priority. Ogres and Norsca needs most cos are in depressed sytuation, Daniel is in need but if left alone if forget not many gonna cry. Rest is "playable" to stay. OFC help for them is also nice but its not priority.

Wait wait wait did bro just say we're getting thanquol !!!!!? 11:10

Disagree with some takes on the list. I think tomb kings are fine and khorne is not soo bad , VC definitely need complete rework , their roaster is not updated for WH 3 , the mechanics are boring and also fighting them is tideous.

Wood Elves the most boring campaign ever, i don't get why people praised the rework at twisted and the twilight release