Doctor Who: Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss on The Master and Jo Martin's Doctor

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Former Doctor Who writers Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss give their take on the latest twists in the BBC sci-fi drama including the reveal of Sacha Dhawan's new Master and Jo Martin's unmasking as a mysterious new version of the Doctor.
Speaking at the Radio Times Covers party, they also answer questions like:
How did Missy regenerate to become the Master?
Is Jo Martin's Doctor before William Hartnell's First Doctor?
How does the new Doctor fit into Doctor Who canon?
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@CRINOTH
@CRINOTH 4 жыл бұрын
Chap in the back left corner 6:18 - 6:25 failing to eat something off a stick. :D
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
...Five rounds rapid!
@CRINOTH
@CRINOTH 4 жыл бұрын
@Matt Jackson Nah, just caught my eye for some strange reason. :D
@nayazgill7733
@nayazgill7733 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for that!
@jakeblack411
@jakeblack411 4 жыл бұрын
You can hear it HAHAJAHAHABMLL
@edwardcatt2399
@edwardcatt2399 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he has dyspraxia. According to the scenario of course.
@janechoy2073
@janechoy2073 4 жыл бұрын
Love this interview! so great to see them reacting to the show as fans again and you can see on their faces that they're still having fun watching the show.
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 4 жыл бұрын
NO ONE is having fun watching the show dumbass. Chinballs and Shittaker destroyed it!
@ncg7987
@ncg7987 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelM28 That's your opinion. There are quite a lot of people enjoying it. Also no need for personal attacks, that's just immature.
@ncg7987
@ncg7987 4 жыл бұрын
@Scooby McDooby Please explain how what I said was a personal attack? 😂 There is a huge difference between saying what someone said is immature, and calling someone a dumbass.
@them1ghtyalex
@them1ghtyalex 4 жыл бұрын
Someone was born yesterday, you can see on their faces the thinly veiled dread of being asked about Doctor Who, and Moffat won't be enjoying the partisan lecture of the week.
@janechoy2073
@janechoy2073 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelM28 Didn't realize a new spelling to "michael mcgrath". Thanks, dumbass!
@adriansherlockdamondark.1094
@adriansherlockdamondark.1094 4 жыл бұрын
My respect for Moffat just increased about 400 percent.
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
You had respect for that piece of shit?
@blamass6708
@blamass6708 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelM28 how is he a peace of shit
@LVLexus
@LVLexus 4 жыл бұрын
Moffat:"I don't necessarily want know every detail...even with the Doctor"
@themightythor1160
@themightythor1160 2 жыл бұрын
Says the guy who regenerated war into 9🙂
@lugnuts6
@lugnuts6 4 жыл бұрын
Moffat giving blessing to chris' vision AND Sacha's "Master" was an awesome "passing of the creative baton " moment..awesome stuff indeed
@them1ghtyalex
@them1ghtyalex 4 жыл бұрын
My goodness clean your glasses you actually believe he endorses what's been going on? Were you born yesterday?
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Saunders 4:05 Also endorsing his new storyline I'm sure
@them1ghtyalex
@them1ghtyalex 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz haha definitely... chibnall does make defending him difficult for the people obliged to by the BBC doesn't he?
@xanderathome
@xanderathome 4 жыл бұрын
Chibnall took the batton and stuck it on a pile of shit, set it on fire and and as soon as someone complained about the fire he puts it out by pissing on it.
@LordMooshroom
@LordMooshroom 4 жыл бұрын
Everything Moffat says fully supports what Chibnall is doing. Chibnall made the Morbius doctors canon again. Moffat said "You don't want break really important rules...but if you can make it fit, and you can make anything fit." Chibnall made it fit. Nothing about his twist doesn't work with canon.
@_McCullochDavid
@_McCullochDavid 4 жыл бұрын
Steven Moffat: You can't break the rule of having the Doctor pick up a gun and shoot innocent people. Steven Moffat: Has the doctor pick up a gun and shoot an innocent person
@DeepMoon45
@DeepMoon45 4 жыл бұрын
Was literally gonna comment the same thing lmao
@billygoat9666
@billygoat9666 4 жыл бұрын
That was his point...
@_McCullochDavid
@_McCullochDavid 4 жыл бұрын
@@billygoat9666 what... How?
@adwitiyamishra4325
@adwitiyamishra4325 4 жыл бұрын
The only time I remember the Doctor shooting someone during the Moffat era was when the 12th Doctor shot the General to save Clara. But that was literally the point of the whole episode..and the season arc infact, that his relationship with Clara was driving him to take uncharacteristically extreme actions, just to keep her alive. Also, the General was a timelord who literally regenerated on the spot, so i don't think it should technically count.
@billygoat9666
@billygoat9666 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Parker His point was that it can never go too far.
@paulbrooklandwilliams7315
@paulbrooklandwilliams7315 4 жыл бұрын
Completely distracted by lady behind Mark who can’t stand or walk in her heels, so just gives up and walks off with them in her hand, classy!
@vitalmode2913
@vitalmode2913 4 жыл бұрын
Wish this interview was done after The Timeless Children. Would of been interesting to hear their views on the retcon
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
Vital Mode 4:05 No, they really wouldn't. But I expect they're not fans of Chibnall when it comes to Dr. who.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
It would have been like something out of 'Scanners'.
@summoner2100
@summoner2100 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz they literally just praised him all the way through the interview.. Maybe open you ears.. Oi.
@LordMooshroom
@LordMooshroom 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz Stop projecting. Moffat is a real fan who actually understands what's important in a story. Chibnall didn't do anything that didn't fit with established canon.
@Reprodestruxion
@Reprodestruxion 4 жыл бұрын
VulcanMushroom cept pissing on Gallifrey
@CrankyGrandma
@CrankyGrandma 4 жыл бұрын
Oh funny them talking about Morbius! If only they interviewed them a few days later
@randygoodall6229
@randygoodall6229 4 жыл бұрын
Mof: Nothing contradicts him not being half human Chib: we'll see
@LordMooshroom
@LordMooshroom 4 жыл бұрын
It can always fit.
@alicec1533
@alicec1533 3 жыл бұрын
??? Surely this could further support the idea the doctor is half human. We have no idea about the doctor's origins now. Basically everything that's been said in the canon prior, can also fit with The Timeless Child.
@alicec1533
@alicec1533 3 жыл бұрын
If anything, this backstory is less contradictory with that idea than the backstory of them being from Gallifrey. As it stands, we don't know the Doctor's true species.
@Irrev77
@Irrev77 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, The Doctor could be from an alternate universe where humans advanced scientific knowledge so much that they invented the ability to regenerate. After falling through a hole in spacetime, they are found in our universe and the Time Lords gene-splice the ability for themselves. They proceed to erase The Doctor's memory after whatever the Fugitive Doctor did and force them back into being a child to live a life as a proper Time Lord. Anything's possible!
@wolf7985
@wolf7985 4 жыл бұрын
Love how Steven still refers to the doctor as 'he'
@themightythor1160
@themightythor1160 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, holds up his hands, “*she’s human*”
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
4:04 "...even with the Doctor there's whole sections you don't know about. I don't necessarily want to know every detail". Someone must of also been happy with last week's episode 😏
@atharvadeshpande6907
@atharvadeshpande6907 3 жыл бұрын
Ifkr. Hate what Chibbers has done... wish Jodie had a better writer. It wasn't gonna be easy coming after Capaldi and Moffat (The greatest actor-writer duo in the modern show) but Chibbers has ruined what little chance she had..
@Irrev77
@Irrev77 3 жыл бұрын
Technically it still doesn't reveal anything we didn't know before. We still know extremely little about The Doctor's childhood and their past up until we see them in An Unearthly Child. Then The Timeless Children comes in and canonizes the Morbius Doctors and adds an entirely new mystery. What is this other universe and planet The Doctor actually comes from? Who is the Fugitive Doctor and where do they place in the many lives of the character? What is The Division? While I would've much preferred the twist to be The Master instead, saying it ruins the canon we all knew beforehand is simply untrue. I hope the arc continues on to be genuinely good. Time will tell.
@LukeNyul
@LukeNyul 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview! I think it must be so nice for them to be able to enjoy the show as fans before and I do agree with a lot of what they said about canon in Doctor Who. I think the show works best when the viewer can decide their own canon, it gives everyone their own interpretation of the show!
@blueplanet9917
@blueplanet9917 4 жыл бұрын
Ask ANY actor/writer/director in front of a camera what they think of Jodie Whittaker's Doctor / "ThefirstpersonofcolourtoplaytheDoctorJoMartin" / Dawan's Master... they can only answer one way. "I thought they were great."
@geraltdelautreriv
@geraltdelautreriv 4 жыл бұрын
Wrooong they just give their thoughts it's not because they're positive that it's a lie
@UltimateKyuubiFox
@UltimateKyuubiFox 4 жыл бұрын
You’re implying a social pressure, meanwhile I think they’re genuinely both more engaging presences on screen than Jodie is.
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
"Stunning and Brave"
@vullord666
@vullord666 3 жыл бұрын
En Riz I’d say the problem is you can never tell. With these guys they aren’t in a position where they can say their honest opinion if its NOT positive. Imagine the field day articles would have if any previous Doctor Who’s or showrunners said they don’t like jodie as 13 (actually I think someone has had that field day). Doesn’t matter how they word it news article will print in big blacl “X doesn’t like that the Doctor isn’t a white Male”. We all live in an age where its so easy for all the social pressures to control our behavior, actions, and even words. And we’ve let it and most of us continue along with the idea. We no longer let people even ENTERTAIN ideas we don’t like. These former actors and showrunners have still have a career and social life they can’t let be ruined by one honest opinion, so most of the time they’ll choose their words carefully and probably just say what they think people WANT to hear. Usually something positive and in support. On a side note this mindset is VERY dangerous. We’re inching closer and closer to Fahrenheit 451 and looking at stagnating our own growth by being afraid to speak our honest opinions. The show isn’t going to improve if all the big shots are too afraid to attack it.
@vullord666
@vullord666 3 жыл бұрын
UltimateKyuubiFox I actually completely agree and that’s an issue in of itself. 13 is written horribly for a Doctor. For her acting I really can’t tell with how badly she’s written. The new Master and Ruth on the other hand are actually pretty amazing character wise and acting wise. Like does Chibnall WANT us to see how bad he wrote 13?
@snazzyquizzes2336
@snazzyquizzes2336 4 жыл бұрын
I like the new Master; he's good.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
A mix of Delgado's magnetism and Ainly/Simm's insanity. I don't like the fact that he has to carry this program on his shoulders at times though when he is the villain and not the central character. Sounds harsh but I'm not the only one who's said this sadly. : (
@snazzyquizzes2336
@snazzyquizzes2336 4 жыл бұрын
@Matt Jackson This is a good point; I hadn't thought about it, actually. However, as for the sonic screwdriver's weakness against wood: that doesn't really come up very often TBH.
@vullord666
@vullord666 3 жыл бұрын
I like his acting, but his character makes so little sense Chibnall didn’t even bother to explain how he can even exist to us and left that to the comment section to theorize about
@xanderathome
@xanderathome 4 жыл бұрын
Moffat's view on Breaking the Canon rule. Chibnall "hold my hammer"
@TheYankeePiper
@TheYankeePiper 4 жыл бұрын
The new Master was regenerated from John Sims' Master I think as he went down the lift in The Doctor Falls....because John Sims' Master totally killed off Missy. Wouldn't it interesting if Jodi's Master would end up regenerating into a modern Missy?
@them1ghtyalex
@them1ghtyalex 4 жыл бұрын
Except the people making this twisted corpse of doctor who don't care about its history and will never do something that intelligent. They have also made it clear in behind the scenes with Sacha Dhawan that he is (supposed to be - but s11 and s12 are just fanfics and not canon) the next one along from missy, the last master we saw.
@Phoenix-bi9bn
@Phoenix-bi9bn 4 жыл бұрын
I bet Moffat is loving not knowing for the first time since 2010
@adwitiyamishra4325
@adwitiyamishra4325 4 жыл бұрын
Ah! Poor Steven. Didn't want the gaps to be plugged, and here we are after episode 10 with a detailed explanation of the Doctor's backstory.
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
ADWITIYA MISHRA 4:05 lol
@xanderathome
@xanderathome 4 жыл бұрын
So now we know who the Doc is, thats it, done finished. Its like waiting for He Man to kill Skellotor and he does it in one season, or the kids from dungeons and dragons that get home but they still continue the cartoon.
@fivish
@fivish 4 жыл бұрын
The doctor is half human, so cannot be the Timeless Child. In any case that was a lie created by the Master along with the ginger baby story and black female doc.
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
@@fivish no, that was referred to in the TV movie... but most people don't accept that list like they don't accept the Timless Child nonsense.
@adwitiyamishra4325
@adwitiyamishra4325 4 жыл бұрын
@@fivish Whether the Doctor is half human or not cannot be confirmed now, unless they reveal where the Doctor originally came from before she crossed the boundary.
@morganec2055
@morganec2055 4 жыл бұрын
them saying that they liked Sacha Dhawan as The Master is the tea I'll drink for the rest of my life
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
He’s not the Master!
@travellerinthedark
@travellerinthedark 4 жыл бұрын
5:36 So they've always liked the Morbius Doctors idea, they must have loved the finale then!
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
I think, like most, they liked it when it was left to the viewers' discretion?!?
@giladzxc17
@giladzxc17 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he said that saying that the doctor isnt a time lord would be wrong.
@theshowbogan
@theshowbogan 2 жыл бұрын
*that the doctor is human
@Anchor2theWater
@Anchor2theWater Жыл бұрын
Love these nerds. Still putting such great things out there.
@Redstar2613
@Redstar2613 Жыл бұрын
This interview makes me extremely happy that Moffat isn't running the show anymore.
@Sam-zu5mr
@Sam-zu5mr 4 жыл бұрын
Canon does count in a tv show as if it didn't then it makes the past series that have come before completely irrelevant. For example Missy being killed off but now miraculously still being alive, this needs some explanation or did the master regenerate into this new master, perhaps Missy is a further along regeneration, that would make sense. Simply put some story arcs need explaining. River Song died in the library in Tennants era, but a few series later we finally got to see her timelapse with the 11th and 12th Doctors.we also got an explanation of how the movie Doctor became the war Doctor and saving of gallefrey. We got to find out why and how Clara was living and dying all the time. Every new development must be explained eventually. The new master, the ruth Doctor, the timeless child story arcs need to fit and need explaining, without compromising wat has come before in Doctor Who history. As for the 12 regenerations we now know this can be overturned if granted more regeneration energy, so this rule now has a plausible narrative of how to get passed this issue. Basically put add to the show, not take away from it. Make the story arcs fit into place.
@Protoshag46
@Protoshag46 4 жыл бұрын
This interview was great, really enjoyed their insights and that they disliked the 12 regeneration limit. In regards to the half human thing I just wrote that off as the doctor still being confused from his regeneration. Plus the Metacrisis doctor to me seemed to contradict the half human thing by how disgusted he is of having one heart.
@sarahhiggins1515
@sarahhiggins1515 4 жыл бұрын
He can not like having one heart when he is used to having two without it relating to whether or not he has human heritage.
@DeLantis
@DeLantis 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny how judgemental the reporter was to fans that dislike the lore breaking of Chibnall. He was really obvious in his opinions
@benoneill1840
@benoneill1840 4 жыл бұрын
that beautiful moment when you realise we're all fans...
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
except for jodie bots. they’ll never be fans
@boujmalmohamedamine8430
@boujmalmohamedamine8430 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelM28 and who the f*** are you to decide who is fan who isn't ?
@abcdefgh6951
@abcdefgh6951 4 жыл бұрын
You don't want to break realy important rules Like the Doctor picking up a gun and killing inocennt people The Doctor: * picking up a gun and killing innocent man under Moffats showrunning *
@jellybabiesarecool4657
@jellybabiesarecool4657 2 жыл бұрын
The Doctor canonically has multiple origins (VNAs), so even contradictions with the Doctor's origin fit within "canon".
@doppelganger3992
@doppelganger3992 4 жыл бұрын
They couldn't keep John Sims master returning a secret, they couldn't keep the return of Captain Jack a secret, and they couldn't keep Sacha Dhawan character a secret. Its a good thing Who writers don't run the CIA.
@prof.evilpictures8696
@prof.evilpictures8696 4 жыл бұрын
Doppelganger399 Jack and the Dhawan Master were a complete surprise. Chibnall is much better at keeping secrets than Moffat.
@shan4680
@shan4680 4 жыл бұрын
That might be more an issue with the BBC publicity department than Moffat.
@shan4680
@shan4680 4 жыл бұрын
It might be a BBC publicity department thing, I believe and hence out of the showrunner and writer's control. As for the CIA, there's been times in its history where it probably would have been better if they hadn't been running the show either.
@timrob12
@timrob12 4 жыл бұрын
@@shan4680 Any leak considering Jack comes from John Barrowman who is too excited to keep it all quiet.
@theshowbogan
@theshowbogan 2 жыл бұрын
who comic writers run a type of CIA
@reynolds8960
@reynolds8960 4 жыл бұрын
The Tardis in the grave didn't make sense as the camilion circuit breaks and it gets stuck as a phone box for the first doctor.
@user-xb9to2el2c
@user-xb9to2el2c 4 жыл бұрын
Why the lady behind Mark Gatiss took off one of her shoes?
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
She was helping to move a car outside...
@vullord666
@vullord666 3 жыл бұрын
I’m looking through the other comments saying Moffat is praising Chibnall, but I have to say I take this with a grain of salt. Imagine for a moment what would happen if Moffat said anything bad about Chibnall’s era (and it is honestly God Awful. If for whatever reason you like the 1 dimensional characters, boring episodes, lack of total substance, and inconsistencies than you still have to factually admit that Chibnall has created more plot holes and undone more previous writers works in one series than any other show runner). There would be backlash from the media, the bbc would be hurt (making their relationship negative and I’m sure he probably still works with them), and hell they’d probably even spin it to be about 13 being female because the media does that. People like Moffat (anyone in a position of popularity or power or both) simply CANNOT give their honest opinions because the whole world is looking at them for a story or slip up. Its like when Peter Capaldi said Jodie was his favorite Doctor. We haven’t even seen her much yet; he was just being nice and keeping up appearances so the show doesn’t get hurt. Moffat may actually be okay with Chibnall’s utter shit or he may not care at all anymore or maybe he absolutely despises it; it doesn’t matter because when someone asks in public he’s going to have to praise it. Its a bit like politics (or literally is politics). A Republican or Democrat has to be VERY brave to talk shit about a republican or democratic president (respectively) because that makes their party look bad which in turn makes them look bad.
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 3 жыл бұрын
5:55 well, well, well...
@DaBigIsh
@DaBigIsh 4 жыл бұрын
Moffat works for the BBC there's no way he would say anything negative about the show! He's probably dying on the inside...
@HazarTulum
@HazarTulum 4 жыл бұрын
Hell Bent exists.
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
Skullcrusher430 would genuinely watch with a passion instead of any one of Jodie's epsiodes
@HazarTulum
@HazarTulum 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz I would honestly rather watch ten series with the Stenza as the main villain if it meant getting rid of Hell Bent and that godawful Hybrid arc
@Lailadida
@Lailadida 4 жыл бұрын
It's always funny, how everyone loves the showrunner... after they are gone :D While they are doing their job they are generally hated.
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 3 жыл бұрын
5:40
@Tech_and_AI75
@Tech_and_AI75 4 жыл бұрын
7:09 Moffat talks about canon, he says it would be wrong to make the Doctor human for example... what Chibnall has done is exactly this.
@binkey3374
@binkey3374 4 жыл бұрын
What? How? Making the Doctor not Gallifreyan isn't the same thing as making the Doctor human.
@Tech_and_AI75
@Tech_and_AI75 4 жыл бұрын
binkey he used it as an example! Principle is still the same... show runners have a responsibility to maintain loyal to the canon... Chibnall destroyer that!
@Lailadida
@Lailadida 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tech_and_AI75 Canon... what Canon? You mean that thing that has been rewritten multiple time, like when they indroduced Regeneration in 1966? Or when they visited Atlantis for the second time in 1971 and it absolutely invalidated the first time? Or when the completely rewrote the origin story of the Daleks in 1975? Or when Jamie showed up again in 1985 although he should be back in his own time in Scotland with his mind wiped? Or when Moffat retconned the (first) destruction of Gallifrey and added an uncounted regeneration in 2013? Or... Complaining about canon is just a sophisticated way of saying I don't like this change, which a valid opinion. I for one really didn't like the twists in Day of the Doctor, but the world kept spinning, life went on as usual and Doctor Who stayed an amazing show I am never going to disown even though it does not always turn out the way I want it to.
@Tech_and_AI75
@Tech_and_AI75 4 жыл бұрын
Lailadida you make some very good points and you are indeed correct, the world will continue to spin! But the show is called Doctor Who! The lead character’s history and origin was a mystery, that’s what made it exciting! I just think that this new origin for the doctor is a means to creating spin off series! I just don’t think it adds anything to the story but rather takes things away!
@Lailadida
@Lailadida 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tech_and_AI75 Yes, but that's just a matter of taste and has nothing to do with "destruction of canon". I for one really enjoyed the twist this time. I was never a fan of the regeneration limit and also never quite bought that there haven't been any regenerations pre-Hartnell, if only for the fact that I can't quite imagine Hartnell being a little child. For me he needs to be old and grumpy as soon as he comes to exist.
@timrob12
@timrob12 4 жыл бұрын
That's one big mic they're using. Good thing John Barrowman isn't there...I hope. Also love how Moffat said: "I knew about Captain Jack." Proof that John Barrowman told EVERYONE.
@FlauFly
@FlauFly 4 жыл бұрын
I think that they told him, not because of him being former showrunner, but because he is creator of Jack Harkness character. I don't know how it works exactly, but individual episodes authors have some degree of rights to theirs creations.
@timrob12
@timrob12 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlauFly Oh, yeah. That's right. I forgot Moffat wrote his first episode.
@edwardcatt2399
@edwardcatt2399 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... very diplomatic. Naturally they'd withhold their _real_ opinions...
@sarahhiggins1515
@sarahhiggins1515 4 жыл бұрын
A diplomatic answer would have just been "yeah it was good I think hes doing a great job" but they went into detail and looked like they were genuinely excited. Just because they arent your opinions doesnt mean that they arent theirs.
@edwardcatt2399
@edwardcatt2399 4 жыл бұрын
@Sarah Higgins - well then they must be the only two genuinely excited about Chibnall's hack effluent. And so what? - they're selling the show on his behalf and _feigning_ excitement. That's just as likely, and as BBC employees they'd be obliged to convincingly engender enthusiasm for the series regardless.
@sarahhiggins1515
@sarahhiggins1515 4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardcatt2399 Their only obligation would probably be dont talk negatively about the show but anything more than that means that they actually are enjoying it.
@edwardcatt2399
@edwardcatt2399 4 жыл бұрын
@Sarah Higgins - Yeah I'm totally sure they're _enjoying_ seeing what they wrote into lore - Doc's new regeneration cycle, Gallifrey rescued and lost and time-locked - being disregarded, retconned and ultimately chucked down the garbage chute.
@sarahhiggins1515
@sarahhiggins1515 4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardcatt2399 This interview took place before that episode aired so we have no idea how they felt about it.
@chickenphat730
@chickenphat730 4 жыл бұрын
6:33 well part of that came true. He’s not really a time lord anymore.
@summoner2100
@summoner2100 4 жыл бұрын
The Doctor is still a Time Lord.. Time Lords are NOT the race.. ffs.
@ChadWho
@ChadWho 4 жыл бұрын
summoner2100 Yes they are, Rasalon created them
@TheBirdOfParadox
@TheBirdOfParadox 4 жыл бұрын
​@@ChadWho As far as I understand it it is more like a caste. You are born/loomed into the Time Lord caste and it grants you certain priveleges, like unlocking the ability to regenerate (although that might also be true for some other castes, we don't know) and being given the symbiotic nuclei which allow the bonding with a TARDIS (probably a priviledge of the Time Lords). So the Doctor is still a member of the Time Lord caste, although that is pretty irrelevant since the entire system collapsed with the rest of the sociaty. When you look deeper into the EU and extrapolate from there you come up with quite a dystopian picture of Gallifreyan sociaty.
@xanderathome
@xanderathome 4 жыл бұрын
Moffat come back PLZ
@Lailadida
@Lailadida 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how everyone always hates the current showrunner and loves them after they leave :D It was the same with RTD when Moffat took over.
@FlauFly
@FlauFly 4 жыл бұрын
So, Moffat was liking Brain of Morbius idea of previous Doctors and didn't like 12 regenerations limit. I think that he is overjoyed after The Timeless Children then. So am I.
@TheBlackJester
@TheBlackJester 4 жыл бұрын
These two always broke milestones and real important rules. Hell Moffat broke the first law more than anyone. Which I agree with him, you shouldn't.
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
Such as?
@TheBlackJester
@TheBlackJester 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz I'll start with the Space Whale, and Ark in Space. The Emperor Dalek bit as well, destroyed by the Second Doctor. Davros showing up when should have been lost on Earth, maybe, the Moon, but that pocket universe thing just got pulled out of someone's ass. The Master was tossed into the heart of the TARDIS, and there was no satisfying reason for the return. There are plenty more, I wish I had the time.
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackJester None of those contradict anything that was in the show before... that's quite a pathetic attempt to have a fo at Moffat
@TheBlackJester
@TheBlackJester 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz Rewatch it all then. The Honest Trailer is actually very good. I can't just prechew it, I had more details back when they got released on rec.arts.drwho in usenet. Oh he made Sontaran a woman, Remember wha Linx said when first seeing Sarah? Your blind hero worship is messing with your mind. The "Good Guy" Sontaran is a big rule change as well. The Zygon thing in 50th, that was a total ruination, on a lot of levels, but largely on the half assed factor, World President, that was all-in-all horrible and just to virtue signal over immigration?
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
Two BBC scriptwriters watch a lovingly restored and unique classic car recklessly driven over the edge of a cliff by a maniac. Before even hearing the crash: BBCSW1: (trying to appear in control) D-d-d-d-did you see that?!? BBCSW2: No I did not! And neither did you. BBCSW1: B-b....but he just... BBCSW2: Look. If you start going on about it, you're going to draw attention. Just look happy and smile at the cameras. Say cheese like I'm doing. BBCSW1: But wh- BBCSW2: Its NOT our problem anymore. BBCSW1: Do you think he- BBCSW2: IF HE wants to drive like a madman that's his lookout. Look there's someone about to interview. BBCSW1: But there'll be questions you know. Maybe they'll say its the car, or the engine, not the driver. They could say anything. Like we just left it parked there for anyone to break in or take it. I told you not to leave it there and tell him about it. BBCSW: Look will you just shut up. Everything's alright. If WE say its alright and the Radio Times says it's alright, it's alright. No one will know any different. BBCSW: We spent ages working on that thing. And waited ages to do it too. We could have put it on display. 60 years old that would have been and all you can do is go on about what other people are going to say. BBCSW: Look we've got other work to worry about and these people here.. RT: Hi! Can we just ask one question? BBCSW1: If it's the one we agreed earlier! BBCSW2 (whispering): You've got to hold your nerve. This won't last forever. We got away with HIGH CAMP DRACULA and we're still getting those phone calls at three in the morning about Sherlock and the last episode not making sense. Look, they're not going to ask us back and I was so damned tired of the thing. A Vauxhall Labrador is far less trouble. It barely got past the MOT and that OTT Welsh bloke didn't want it back just yet anyway. Something that precious is just too much responsibility. BBCSW1: He won't get it back it all now will he? Policeman: Excuse me Sirs. Are you the registered owners of the vehicle just found there over that cliff there? BBCSW2: Its changed hands. Just recently. All the papers are correct. Officially authorised. BBCSW1: What about the driver? Policeman: He's doing surprisingly well. More confused than anything. Its more the people around the crash that were a concern. Public Order concerns. This is your responsibility. There was a very large angry mob trying to drag him from the vehicle. Everybody else was just trying to look away, pretending it wasn't happening. Like it's all they could do. The two BBC SWs look at each other. Policeman: The weirdest thing was the thing he crashed into and saved his life...........................a Police Box of all things. TO BE CONTINUED?
@them1ghtyalex
@them1ghtyalex 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell how hard they're trying here, and that they've had enough arguments about it off camera already. Nice save there Moff "she's" he knows he would have been torn apart if he didn't catch that.
@jackeccles1333
@jackeccles1333 4 жыл бұрын
This master is disguised remember Missy calls her self mistress and is all sassy so she is not disguised hence its not her John simm very possible After missy maybe
@simonbarnes8303
@simonbarnes8303 4 жыл бұрын
The reason they don’t know the plan and how things fit in is because neither does Chris Chibnall.
@sarahhiggins1515
@sarahhiggins1515 4 жыл бұрын
Except he does.... You might not like it but I do believe that this is what he planned. He teased the timeless child in season 11. He showed that a version of the doctor was a fugitive of the judoon yet she doesnt remember her half way through this season. She is now being held accountable for those crimes as part of the division that she cant remember because her memory was erased.
@simonbarnes8303
@simonbarnes8303 4 жыл бұрын
Sarah Higgins if he did then his plan has backfired spectacularly. The last episode had the worst rating of any episode for modern Dr Who and he has lost 2 million viewers in this series alone.
@TheAskTrixieChannel
@TheAskTrixieChannel 4 жыл бұрын
"First person of color to play the Doctor".... You owe Lenny Henry an apology!
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't supposed to be the Doctor...
@timrob12
@timrob12 4 жыл бұрын
He got a part in Spyfall so that got fixed.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
Certainly the 1980s Lenny Henry Show and Curse of Fatal Death have more right to be called canon after Sunday 1/3/20.
@timrob12
@timrob12 4 жыл бұрын
@@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears They didn't show these Doctors though.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
@@timrob12 (Git Mulhaney proceeds to do that Robert Pugh/Lighthouse shouty thing off Torchwood)
@MonoLith2049
@MonoLith2049 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan since I was 5 when Jon Pertwee was the Doctor. I’ve been clamouring for a female Doctor since the 80’s when I wanted it to be Joanna Lumley! But after the obliteration of the last 57 years of lore, I’m sorry to say I’m out!! Get anyone... ANYONE else to write the next season please! And while you’re at it, replace that Top Shop Doctor who lacks the gravitas to carry this off! It’s not working. I’ll be back when it is
@Viperuk80
@Viperuk80 4 жыл бұрын
They hate it...but they cant say that obviously
@josephchambers2000
@josephchambers2000 3 жыл бұрын
The fact he knew from tissue compression eliminator shows he is a true whovian. I forgive you for Clara, for Capaldi, for listen, for river, for kill the moon and even for turning bill POTTS into a cybermen...come back...chibnall is so much worse then you were...come back
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
If he was a true fan then he wouldn’t have bastardised the 1st Doctor! He’s no fan!
@josephchambers2000
@josephchambers2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelM28 , he merely pointed out that he was a product of his time...though it does annoy me that Bradley was cast as him, since although he was great as William Hartnell the actor, he was terrible as the first Doctor character.
@12daleks
@12daleks 4 жыл бұрын
I think deep down there thinking...this is a dud.
@edwardwoodward2180
@edwardwoodward2180 4 жыл бұрын
moffat i like the gaps in evreything chibnal the doctor was the first to regenetrate
@sarahhiggins1515
@sarahhiggins1515 4 жыл бұрын
He created more gaps though since the doctor doesnt even know how many lives she has had at this point. She could be millions of years old for all we know.
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 4 жыл бұрын
They're being very careful and very generous. Respect to them. But Chibnall destroyed Doctor Who in S11. Didn't bother with S12.
@sallyatticum
@sallyatticum 4 жыл бұрын
Not so. They both just said Brain of Morbius exists with all those extra versions of the Doctor and even that the Doctor is half Human.
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 4 жыл бұрын
@@sallyatticum That's why I think they're being generous towards Chibnall - not criticising his direction.
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
@@sallyatticum those were Morbius’s past incarnations dumbass
@sallyatticum
@sallyatticum 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelM28 Seriously, You are coming on here a year after I point out something someone else said and call me a dumbass? Fuck off, ya fucking loser.
@u.k.trainandbusvids
@u.k.trainandbusvids 4 жыл бұрын
Since Capaldi debut season lots of twists has happened first we have lots of Female to Male or Male to female regenerations first Master became Missy then The General became a female General then The Doctor became a female skip a season Master is back in Male form
@SomeRandomGuy908
@SomeRandomGuy908 4 жыл бұрын
They can regenerate freely between gender. What did you expect, it makes a more hero vs villain Male vs female with the doctor. Basic film
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
All totally unnecessary in narrative terms. Trying to soften up an audience they mostly view as racist and misogynist bigots (which, strangely, I don't ever remember DW viewers as being and yet! Here we are).
@paulhirst7602
@paulhirst7602 4 жыл бұрын
I think when Moffatt introduced the character of Missy as a female version of the master. He was been instructed by the BBC to do this to test the water for an eventual female Doctor.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
@Little Normani That's an intriging point for me in that I don't remember any problems in that regard - in fact, even with the unfair accusation of signalling 'Stonewall/Pink Politics' back in the day (from some quarters), it always seemed like Russell T could do no wrong in reviving WHO. I presume you mean Doctor #10's Martha? I AM GENUINELY INTRIGUED and I genuinely don't want to come across like the proverbial ostrich. Any anecdotal or even documented examples you can quote with veracity would be appreciated as this is a worthy debate and I would very much appreciate any reply.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulhirst7602 All the evidence points to this being irrefutable, yes! I've been on a few comments strands recently (as I you might have noticed, I'm bloody everywhere), basically telling anyone who'll care to listen that Moffat and Chibnall almost seem MORE (quietly) joined up at the hip than Moffat and Gatiss ever were...
@matthewburrows4359
@matthewburrows4359 4 жыл бұрын
Lost so much respect for both of them. However the one great decision was casting Sascha as the Master.
@sohail6058
@sohail6058 4 жыл бұрын
Ah steven, if only you could see what they did to our show now...
@sibionic
@sibionic 2 жыл бұрын
I expect these two loathe the horrible retconning that's been going on.
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
There is no “Jo Martin Doctor”
@deathstripe1
@deathstripe1 3 жыл бұрын
yes there is
@electricdiesel1993
@electricdiesel1993 2 жыл бұрын
Jo Martin is the Doctor?…; Censored
@dantedash
@dantedash 4 жыл бұрын
People are complaining about The Timeless Children revealing more about the Doctor but we still know only a little about her
@fivish
@fivish 4 жыл бұрын
The TC is not a reveal its a lie created by the Master.
@dantedash
@dantedash 4 жыл бұрын
@@fivish That's honestly what I initially thought, but the way the episode ended made me think otherwise. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Master was lying and it was all made up to just make the Doctor feel like shit
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
@@dantedash if you accept that timeless child shit as canon then you’re not a real fan!
@randocalrissian1980
@randocalrissian1980 4 жыл бұрын
Well, in recent developments The Doctor can no longer be deemed half human considering what they revealed in the last episode. I'm I the only person who didn't fully like the last episode?
@binkey3374
@binkey3374 4 жыл бұрын
But, considering the Doctor isn't a Gallifreyan, the Time Lords may have told him he was half human to explain away biological differences between the Doctor and actual Time Lords.
@randocalrissian1980
@randocalrissian1980 4 жыл бұрын
binkey I was referring to Moffat and Gatias still thinking the Doctor could be half human. I was just saying that it doesn't seem like they could do that storyline anymore. I do agree with your explanation, but I'm still bummed about the new developments that have been released.
@iz723
@iz723 4 жыл бұрын
@@randocalrissian1980 could still be half human. None knows where she came from
@randocalrissian1980
@randocalrissian1980 4 жыл бұрын
I Z far enough, we don't no what could be in the other dimension.
@curtwall7089
@curtwall7089 4 жыл бұрын
Cap jack was the big thing i doubt they thought that his only in one ep they need to get rid of yaz Ryan graham bring back mickey smith martha jones-smith Captain Jack harkness Christina de souza Jenny the doctors daughter
@grandmiserthe3rd434
@grandmiserthe3rd434 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor Wokes lectures will be back next year ,...that's if BBC is here next year
@RavenThom
@RavenThom 4 жыл бұрын
HORRRRRIBLE
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P DOCTOR WHO 1963 - 2017
@thepandorica1660
@thepandorica1660 4 жыл бұрын
Rip your originality 2005-2016
@Problembeing
@Problembeing 4 жыл бұрын
The Pandorica R.I.P. empathy.
@thepandorica1660
@thepandorica1660 4 жыл бұрын
@@Problembeing I would feel empathic to him, but he's posted this comment so many times that's it's getting ridiculous and he's incredibly rude to pretty much anyone who likes this era. I'm not saying I like the current run, but even I would never go around seeking attention like Micheal here. However, if you think he hasn't done anything wrong, then maybe it would be OK for me to do things like this too. Not saying I will, but it's a free choice.
@Problembeing
@Problembeing 4 жыл бұрын
The Pandorica it’s really not for us to judge an individual for an opinion someone clearly feels warrants repeating. It’s not particularly ‘rude’ or ‘wrong’ simply because you disagree with it. It wasn’t a personal insult to you nor any wrong-doing to you personally. If you don’t like it, ignore it.
@Problembeing
@Problembeing 4 жыл бұрын
The Pandorica Christ knows the number of times people like us have been made unwelcome by the vocal minority that like this era; the death threats; the banning from Whovian groups; the constant trolling; the constant refrains of ‘don’t watch it then’ or ‘get out of this fandom’ - THAT is rude and THAT is wrong.
@tibordavidjakab5583
@tibordavidjakab5583 3 жыл бұрын
I like that Moffat discredit the fans who are not like Chibnall’s run. It seems that Moffat watch the show for the actual purpose: For entertainment. The (rest of) fans who are dislike Chibnall, they possibly dislike him for he casted a woman for the Doctor’s role. They not try to love enjoy the new episodes anymore, just try to discredit Chibnall. If Moffat was a better writer than Chibnall, the latter just simply not writer good as the earlier. Or Moffat was a too good writer for the show. And those fans who are claim that Moffat lies, it would mean that not a true fan of the show, because of not telling is true judgment is means that his career at the BBC is more important than the show.
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a fucking moron! The fans that hate chibnall ARE the true fans! You brain-dead jodie bots have never been true fans!
@cbcdesign001
@cbcdesign001 3 жыл бұрын
Here we are months after you posted and the Dr Who Facebook page is filled with comments from people who are glad Chibnall is leaving. He sucks as a Dr Who showrunner.
@AnonymOus-dp3jj
@AnonymOus-dp3jj 4 жыл бұрын
Chibballs enjoying killing 65 years of doctor who!
@barneschris5148
@barneschris5148 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they had more conviction to say what they really think. I find it hard to believe that these two great writers can’t see the obvious and massive failings of the 13th doctors run. The show is dead and has been hijacked by extreme ideologues.
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