if i was scottish, i'd be voting for independence without a second thought

Thankyou for your understanding

@@jedisalsohere try telling that to the pensioners that came out in their droves and voted no

I'm English with Scottish ancestry and if I was Scottish I would not be voting to leave the UK. I would be voting to never have to live under a Conservative government again.

your not the only enlgish person thinking this

Thought he was going to go full 'Braveheart' !

Never seen the MrDarcy 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤

Absolutely you can.

Cmon up and help us make a great wee country. The kettle is on and I've got shortbread.

Errr… can I come too, please? I’m in Shropshire but I’m sick to death of our Parliament. It’s an absolute sham

Wales too, please. Form a Celtic Union with Scotland and Ireland! Despite being English born and bred, I want absolutely nothing to do with this absolute sh*tshow of a country and Parliament.

The first time I heard that. What a great idea !! Labour used to support North England (with capital initials for respect) but that's history. I'm from London but my father was from Yorkshire. I always felt that the North was mistreated. So split off London and the home counties. The slogan should be "North and South - Vote Partition".

Hoyle has no master...he's a spineless jellyfish that goes whatever direction he's pushed.

@@eightiesmusic1984 Pedant.

@@eightiesmusic1984 Whoops y do for the correction "teacher" - but you understood what was meant - so there was communication.

He is labor

@@eightiesmusic1984 I stand by my assertion. Pedant.

​@@eightiesmusic1984 OP is right tho you are a pedant. And your third message is incredibly hard to understand despite the perfect spelling...

Thank you, brother. Warms the heart to hear. There’s always room for people who respect democracy up here

The thing is, the Scots can afford to play politics because far less Muslims live in Scotland. Kier is in the wrong & Labour is a disgrace, but let’s not pretend the SNP wouldn’t do exactly the same thing if their jobs depended on it.

I'd agree with you. If it wasn't for the leader they have and have had. Just awful.

@@aclark903seems you have a problem with Muslims

Labour got the ceasefire motion passed. This has nothing to do with Scottish independence. Just proves the SNP are the same as the rest, despite claiming to be above Westminster politics.

No one is claiming that it has got anything to do with independence although the way this has played out it only strengthens the case for the need for independence. Starmer and his party have just handed a massive boost to the independence campaign and if he thought he was making progress in Scotland then he has just shot himself in the foot.

They have more than enough corruption in their own Parliament.

They have there own Parliament so do it there.

Oh come on. Today’s SNP motion was just a political device designed to try and create a massive issue for Labour, whom are now posing a dire threat to the SNP in their home constituencies. It blew up in their faces, and they threw a stop and walked out of the chamber. If you want to talk about disrespect, talk about the disrespect the SNP are showing to the people of Gaza by hijacking their plight and using it to play a political game.

@@TC-qd1zwforeign policy is ‘reserved’ you donut !

@@HiveFleetOnilook another English gaslighter ! The SNP have stayed consistent on this issue. Bare faced liar you are

@@boxtradums0073 hi jammy dodger. Who was talking about foreign policy. They are not employed to do anything but look after our interests. Let the Middle East sort there problems oh. These idiots cannot get this country running right but with goons like you supporting them I am not surprised.

You know nothing about now shut the f up

It I beyond party politics, it is about democracy

@@julianshepherd2038 No it's about the contempt many in that place have against Scotland and its elected representatives. England should get a taste of its own medicine. Westminster parliament should be closed down with each of the home nations getting a turn of holding the UK parliament. I would love to see the reaction of the English people if they were given the political system favouring Scotland instead of England. Lets see how Scotland having 590 MP's and England only getting 49would do for staters with Scotland deciding how funding would be allocated. England could of course have its own "Regional" Devolved parliament to allocate England's share of the money Scotland allows them to have, of course if England wanted full independence it would have to ask the Scottish UK parliament for a section 30 which Scotland will declare "That now is not be the time." and of course Scotland would decide whether the UK re-joined the E.U. with English views and input completely ignored.

It is called the bain principal, it is a policy of labour not to agree with the SNP on anything... what a joke...

@@Mr-Foad Yep and it's very sad as SNP voters (other than the indy question) naturally have far more in common with Labour than most others at Westminster. I fear this will just alienate more Scottish people regarding rule from Westminster regardless of political persuasion.

Labour got the motion passed. Only Scottish people and their utterly tribal, contemptuous way of conducting politics view today as an outrage. Labour got a motion for an immediate ceasefire passed. That should be the highlight today.

@@ecaeas4439ah look another English bigot !

@@ecaeas4439 Who is tribal? Do you really think ALL Scottish people are of one tribe - or of one political view? Your comment is so unschooled that I actually hope you are a Russian Bot.

Defending Hamas who still have civilian hostages.

​@@quillo2747so we're just going to ignore the part of the SNP's motion that demands the release of the Hostages.

​@@bjiornbjiornignoring reality is just the status quo for Israeli supporters...

Thank you. That means a lot to me. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

​@@quillo2747 Who's defending Hamas?

At least give England a chance to have it's own parliament first.

Being English, take me with you please?

Im currently living in England, everyday i wish me grandfather never left Aberdeen

Being a New Scot, 100% agree!!

She claimed she did not hear Cleverly call someone constituency a sh/t hole so her hearing is not that bad then 😂

Have you seen how they operate in the House and Senate in US? No shouting out whatsoever. I guess their democracy must be in fine fettle?

Love the optimism but Scotland wouldn't meet the EU criteria to join.

Off you trot then ..

​@@buntyjoy1800and why us yhlthat evidence please

@@shaunyweaver1144and bring all the gas and oil money too, England has NO natural resources, Scotland would be one of the richest countries in the world 😂

@@saorsa5 I suggest you take a look at the financial standards a country need to reach to join. The UK as a whole would not reach the criteria right now.

Didn't Labour back the ceasefire? I don't understand what's going on tbh. Is this just the SNP playing politics over them not getting to slightly amend the tone of the ceasefire?

​@@DeShark88No, this was Starmer playing at god knows what. The SNP have wanted a ceasefire from the beginning! What a bloody choice at the next GE. Scotland needs to be independent more than ever!

@@user-mi1yt6ju6f so was a ceasefire amendment voted for in the end? Sounds like it was? I don't know what the SNPs issue is here really. That there was no vote about whether Israel was deemed to be breaking international law?

No the SNP were calling for an absolute ceasefire which meant a ceasefire would be sustained indefinitely, whereas the Labour Party called for a humanitarian ceasefire which would eventually ensuring that no sustained peace would be achieved

@@Parsh_-kt7jm ahhh ok. And Israel are bound by international law to obey the ruling of the UK Govt.?

No it doesn't. I have contempt for the SNP but I respect our democracy. This is contempt for democracy.

It's really contempt for the people of Scotland!

Crap snp voted for by just 3% of the uk population playing politics…. No wonder there losing many seats in Scotland

Not when the SNP plays politics like this. It's digusting from Flynn.

​@@jamesrowe3606I have contempt for you!

but it was the labour party’s motion that got carried. soon as the labour party is scrutinised you don’t need to blame the tories for a labour shitshow without any evidence

The Tories were for once not involved in this speaker/labour debacle.

Too right, Soar Alba 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Many people in the top half of England would like to come with them.

I'm in the south but please take me with you!​@@Bearsio

The people of England are sovereign and deserve to not have Scottish politicians meddling in our affairs. Scotland has its own parliament, England do not. Scottish MPs vote on laws that only affect England but not the other way around

nah the wokeminster is London's parliament northern england dosnt want anything to do with the scum

I'm not quite sure how it's remotely truly that games are being played when the motion calling for a ceasefire has actually passed. It is now the position of the British parliament that a ceasefire is the right course of action. Whose motion was that? Labour's.

Sums up English history doesn't it

​@@ecaeas4439why couldn't labour just vote for the SNP's motion though ?

@@bothi00 Because it involved condemning Israel and the Labour Party are trying to take a balanced view that the situation is complex and not to disregard or forget that there was rightfully outrage and calls for action after October 7th.

@@ecaeas4439 you don't agree Israel should be condemned for an at least 70% civilian casualty rate, the levelling of 85% of homes, the cutting off of fuel food and water to 2 million non-combatants, and the bombing of refugees camps and areas that they specifically tell civillians to go to for their safety ?? Next you'll be telling me it's very complex and balanced view when Israeli ministers and military leaders refer to the inhabitants of Gaza as human animals. Tells me all I need to know about you

He said nothing wrong, and if this shit leads to Scotland separating from the UK, so be it. They'll be free from Tory stupidity.

​@@stingfiretubeand labour contempt

That was the only perk of BoJo - provoking a massive surge of support for independence with his every visit.

Thank you for recognising that. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

England is a fucking tip

Long live Scotland and ireland. Fuck england.

@@ruthguthrie1099why didn’t the majority vote for independence? I’m born in England and live here but I would have voted for independence if I was born in Scotland

scottland is a tiny 5.5 million conglomerate, they wouldnt be able to support themselves without the UK

he WAS a human rights lawyer , he is NOW a politician . YES its a fucking disgrace

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but, from the sidelines, that man couldn’t decide between two flavours of ice cream. He prevaricates on absolutely everything.

Should've been obvious when he said on radio that Israel had the right to cut off power and water to 2 million non-combatants

@@jennymulhall816 who the speaker or starmer ? starmer actually showed strong leadership ( i am not a fan of his) but he couldnt allow the words collective punishment to be included because that will mean we as a country believe israel is committing a war crime and that is not our foreign policy on this matter which is why we keep repeating israel has the right to defend itself and asking for hostages to be released etc etc .the SNP got what it wanted , the chance to champion independence because no one listens to us north of the border , the tories get to moan about the speaker and try and get someone more affiliated to them and also have a laugh at the opposition falling out , much easier to fight a divided enemy than a unified one . its why i say its a disgrace people playing politics instead of agreeing on a well worded ceasefire proposal .

@@deeingalaplike you support a tory in a red tie.

'ave the pies arrived?

Potato pie supper 😂 ​@@stevewhiteba

Bernard is on at 10

The committee have passed the resolution that Hoyle is toast

What are you on about?

Labour are Tories too, never forget that.

If you support this labour party and it's leader and front bench, I hate to break it to you, you're not a supporter of labour; you are a Tory

@bothi00 did I say I support the direction the party had taken over the last few years?

​@@jjfarr72 if you say you support them, it *very* heavily implies that

@@jjfarr72 'im a labour supporter' so, ya. If you still are, yes, that is what you're indicating and saying

​@@bothi00Incorrect. There is a huge amount of difference between the Tories and Keir Starmer's Labour and just because you would either rather there was more or don't see what there is doesn't make it okay for you to make false equivalency statements.

The SNP are a waste of time, full stop.

What would that achieve?

​@@MSalt69well the Scottish people wouldn't look like they are just lambs for the English, bend the knee to an inbred king? Last 2 oms were not voted for by the people? Last 3 pms were dumb as shit 😂 and you ask what again 😂?

@@alansmith5340I love it when Brits admit their disdain for Scottish peoples opinions. Just strengthens our case

​@@MSalt69what's being achieved otherwise ? At least there's a case that Westminister is no longer recongised nor relevant to Scotland and Ireland

Scotland united with England in 1603 when a Scot (James I of England & VI of Scotland) became ruler of England, Wales and Ireland and rapidly started to plant Ulster with protestant Scots. Since the since the Parliaments united a lot of Scots more Scots such as Lord Bute, Hume, MacMillan, Gordon Brown etc have been Prime Minister than their percentage of the total population. So its hardly fair to claim that the Scots have been under-represented in the Union. Compared to Wales and many English regions I would say they have been over-represented. Anyone recall any Prime Ministers from East Anglia or the West Country?

That’s what the Reform party tick box is for if that’s what you want to do.

Sorry X box

Reform Party etc., they are all the same, we need a completely new system altogether, not politicians, people who are masters in their craft, well vetted, honest hard working people, those who would not dream of taking kickbacks to further their careers, there are not many honest leaders around these days, but one can dream :) @@Batters56

Reform = reform party

@@Batters56 The Reform Party is for loonies and Nazis. That's why Fart-rage is in it.

Wasn't it stammer who had a private meeting with the speaker and influenced him not to allow only Labour to speak?

😂😂😂😂😂😂

That’s ridiculous, he doesn’t believe in the House of Commons and wants to leave it, so he couldn’t be speaker.

He doesn’t have a party anymore, he became independent when he became speaker.

They had one in 2014. It failed.

@@MSalt69well they can try again Cheery Chops. Things like that can happen outside the empire pet 😂😂😂

@@MrsHawkinsHouse When the 2014 referendum was described as a "generational event" and Ssturgeon said there would be anouthe referndum if pro independence parties won a majority in the 2021 elections and the planned 2023 referendum was shelved. Not quite so easy is it Cheery Chops?

Even if the scots won a referendum they would not let them go , Example Donetsk and Crimea won there referendums for breaking away from Ukraine in which the UK deep state opposes and that is foreign countries over seas , so no they would not let scots have there free will

@@MSalt69 You can't call a vote to remain in the UK which remains part of the EU and single market, and still firmly upholds its commitment to the European Court of Human Rights generational if, just ten years later, the UK is out of two of those three things, and making grumblings about doing away with the third. Fundamental aspects of UK governance have changed since the vote in 2014, all of which are things Scotland consistently polls as supporting. The thing about maintaining a Union, Cheery Chops, is that the interests of all members have to at least be paid a passing notion.

Liverpool isn't part of England? Most English men will acknowledge that.

And don't forget all the Massively profitable offshore Scottish windfarms the Tory govt sold off to foreign governments who will reap massive profits while we can't afford to turn the fu##ing heating on!

Aye but we were lied to and lied to and lied to. I, along with most young to middle aged people in Scotland, feel genuine palpable anger towards the Tories and what they’v done to our country. It seems like they’v been doing everything they can to fuck your’s up to. Tories out.

@@marccas10 I thought it was generally agreed that Liverpool is a Irish colony on the north west coast of England, perhaps with some Welsh influence.

Starmer doesn't want to upset the wife now does he? Pathetic Labour leader and pathetic, weak Speaker.

Because it was a SNP opposition day and they decided to waste Parliaments time and as a added bonus try and split the Labour Party. All in all from the point of view of allowing the SNP to posture and sulk about "Scotland being ignored" think it was a great opposition day for them.