Is it weird that I see Dratnos as the school principal of wow

The people need “Dratnos compilation to sleep to: 10 hours of patch notes”. Farm those subs 🎉

Re: Private Auras - They say that they want to create room for mechanics to be solved by communicating, but I don't really see that happening much regardless of Private Auras. There's just a core problem with having everyone communicate a mechanic when raids require 20 people, a veritable army. You end up just needing a shot-caller instead which means that for everyone other than the shot-caller, the mechanic ends up feeling the exact same, you just have some guy tell you what to do instead of an addon.

Regarding your point about people who don't want to use the stacking raid power buff. There's no reason Blizzard couldn't let raids opt out of it if they want. the ICC buff was toggleable at an NPC at the start of the raid, and you could turn it back on by resetting the instance. Really the best of both worlds.

One way they could force raids to auto-nerf themselves is implement a system similar to Destiny’s contest mode. In that game your item level is capped for the first 48 hours of a raid (their raids only last a few hours). Having ilvl be capped in mythic raid at mid hero track for week 1, then capped at max hero track week 2, then uncapped week 3 would auto nerf the raid over the first few weeks of the patch. A bonus would be reduced splits, since you only need to get your BIS gear up to mid hero level which can be farmed from m+ for the most part, but wouldn’t hurt m+/heroic prog for the people that want to do those early

I think it's important to note that because the proposed player power gain is done through the quest system, it does mean that in the unlikely case that a guild wants to opt out of the system by simply not doing the quests, that options remains available to them. I doubt many will actually do that, but it's nice to know that it's there.

As a tank, my guildies baiting the fyrakk image frontals was either ok im dead or ok i can play. good mechanic for agency gameplay without WAs. good video

I think private auras can be really good at protecting people from themselves. Especially lower guilds imo hurt themselves with WAs. The most egregious one this expac was Raz bombs, where I saw even 50 pulls into the fight that people were crossing each other to get to their assigned quadrant, subsequently blowing each other, or the raid, up, instead of just yoloing.

What do we think about a system where you can opt in to play a boss at a certain pre-nerf difficulty? Say you kill it once and this unlocks, and there's a list of versions (Tindral 1.0, 1.1, 1.3 etc), so guilds looking to test their mettle can play through the same versions the RTWF did if they choose?

11:30 that must be the smallest minority to exist over all of mythic raiding: a guild that raids 10 hours/week, getting to 50% before first nerfs on 8th boss hit and then say "oh man, we had the skill, just not the time"

You said that the 20% power up would be good for everyone except those that wanted to kill the bosses without the nerfs, but Hellscream's Warsong could be disabled. It stands to reason that this buff could as well for those that are seeking that challenge, without, as you said "Holding the rest of the player base hostage".

Think it’s fair to note it’s had catastrophic effect on Mythic, but positive effect on Heroic or less. No one is running macros below mythic.

Nerfing raids in a way that is not just Blizz reducing numbers or players getting more and higher ilvl gear. Dratnos mentions the N'Zoth cloak with increasing Corruption resistances which lets players add more Corruption effects to gear. I also remember the Azerite Power in Uldir where each week, after killing 3 bosses, you got another "rank" on that power making ti deal more damage or heal for more. That Azerite Power only worked inside the raid (I think?). Could a ring or trinket that upgrades each week after killing a few bosses, and only work inside the raid, be a way to slowly nerf over time if other sources of gear makes players too powerful too quickly? EDIT: nvm, paused video while typing and now that i started playing again Ion mentions the Re-originaltion Azerite power specifically.. I think I'm starting to become a bit psychic!

The raid buff should be like icc buff. Ramping up as weeks go on, and dispellable if you want to natty it. More choice is always better

The Buff-in-Raid thing being across alts can be a bit of a problem in the pug-world for returning players. Alts of ppl who have cleared the raid on their mains are already preferred compared to new players...these alts being 20% more powerful as it is doesn't help the issue. edit: might have misinterpreted this a bit...if the new players are able to just do the quest and get the same buff it should be fine

They just need to bring back ICC Hellscream buff

So great to have this wowhead post to reference whenever you need to point out how incredibly disconnected developers are with the playerbase. Dratnos sums it up really well.

Group wide One shots should never exist based off group wide mistakes. There should always be a way where experienced players can help respond and recover from mistakes made by novice players. This also helps minimize trolling effectiveness

They just need to stop making raids so hard you need a weak aura engineer... If they want to continue this trend of making a raid for two guilds for social media engagement then they should just design a event for it. Like the equivalent of mdi or tgp but for raiders. The whole making a raid then nerfing it 300 times just feels bad for everyone. Bosses like tindral and crab boss from sepulchre arent even the same boss by the time average mythic raiders get to them.

I like the idea of such a powerup system! However, after evaluating player reception and feedback after a season, I REALLY whish, that they come up with some kind of a flavorful „evergreen kind“ of system that is not just % increased power through a buff. I loved Corruptions in that sense because it offered a lot of flavor and player agency and was waayy more than just: you deal 5% more damage… Being confronted with all those passive % increases through (hero) tree nodes and other global effects makes us players notice more and more that the game as a whole is an intricate data driven mechanism, packaged into an epic fantasy game with cool aesthetics and gameplay. It just doesn’t do this gem of a game justice, if a lot of player power is straight up presented to you in it‘s purest numerical form. Imagine getting a more polished corruption system back, that increases player power over time, possibly at the cost of survivability, so there can still be somewhat of a thrill to lower-end bosses. Acquisition and the fantasy behind this „ever green corruption“ could either be tied to a well established fantasy/lore of WoW or could be swapped each expac depending on the specific story.

I like the idea of getting increased player power each week, but 2% is too small, especially if it starts after a few weeks. Who wants to do the same raid for 3 months straight?

beware.. the first 10 mins is "how volcanic heart hurt me, and I'm still not done talking about it". 🤣😭

Have a competition server for any guild/team that's used for the race and open a week earlier, they can just copy their characters over to it, wouldn't that be easier?

I really hope they just accept that players sometimes want a challenge without it being extra rewarding, like mythic plus. Why not make a challenger mode that's only for the people like world first or really good guilds and leave mythic for the guilds like race to world last. Challenger can be tuned to really be interesting for those players and for viewers that enjoy the race

Great video but one disagreement is I think you implied people are fine to just see mechanics and dodge on their own, but then go download a dungeon pack and there is a WA for everything. The ability could do 1 damage and turn your blue for 5 seconds and people would WA it. Yes that’s M+ not raid but I think the point hold up

I hope they find a solution, because I hate weakaura more than anything else in this game - it is literally the worst example of players being given resources and misusing them horrifically. I want to play the game, not play my addons. And I don't want to feel like I'm hurting whatever group I'm in because I don't want to play my addons. I like the idea of a gradual "automatic" stat increase.

Mythic should be tuned so that RWF players are completely bored by week 3. It should be tuned for 10 ilvls below max.

Why not design the mechanics around the environment with mechanics in mind, most bosses would work the same in any environment, but lets say a mechanic requires you to stand in water, or picking stuff up to make a wall would make for more engaging mechanics without the need for auras I can even immagine a cool boss where half the raid needs to haul a weapon around different platforms, like a cannon in order to do enough damage to the boss

They literally said...shamans and DKs are redundant wtf xd thats why they dont even bother about shamans balancing

Honestly….bring back some sort of AP. Progression that could steadily increase your character’s power and in turn nerf bosses.

Doesn’t a more linear difficulty scaling from boss to boss mean earlier bosses are going to be harder

Did you ask the Devs about shaman? I don't see no Shaman (jk Mage lol) timestamps

Another way to modify raid difficulty is to allow players to fight the boss at different build versions. So players could choose an earlier (usually buffed) version of the boss. This would incentivize Blizzard to give higher rewards for doing so, and be the "best of both worlds" in terms of making the boss easier for weaker guilds yet not forcing strong guilds to face unnecessarily weak bosses.

oh my god the mispronounciation of "pronounce" when talking about how everyone mispronounces "Nascent" was the sickest burn ever (18:04)

I feel like everyone is quick to over react when it comes to any changes. After Dragonflight I trust blizzard to give us a really fun season 1! Especially if they are more worried about the casual player base, which is a good approach cause WoW needs more players

I've played WoW since vanilla, the game gave away a lot of the fun and mystery when streaming and the idea of gaming as a career started. If the top ~5% can not monetize the game then it could grow the larger base of casual gamers. Gaming is about having a blast and enjoying beautiful 3d art. Imagine if you couldn't brag about being whatever place in the world you are, would you still put so much effort in? the game was better when it was just the top guild on the server acting like twats in trade chat.

BIG big fan of everything they’re aiming for… But: I really hope they stop with all the “arcadey” changes and keep WoW an MMO. Let’s be real here, the game hasn’t felt like an immersive world in forever. Everything is instanced, sharded, split… If you’re not in a guild, good fkin luck lol. Realize that this is a social game, and that there is more “magic” to capture in the boundless universe they’ve built than they are currently working with. Seeing familiar faces, name based repute, less focus on competitive and more on immersive roleplay… Tldr: More “World” in this chapter of “warcraft” please.

Maybe they should have a system like torghasts Box of Many Things for raids, but with a new talent point per week instead of a currency.

Thanks for reading and article, because poeple can’t so it for themselves 😅😅😅

First! Thanks for the coverage Dratnos

@16:02 Couldn't they just add an upgrade aspect tier above mythic that dropped only in say +12s or better or the last two mythic bosses of a tier? Seems like it would achieve this goal for players who get hung up and still want to be looking toward something and can grow in gear at the top making them stronger without nerfing bosses ?

I'm gonna make the executive decision to make more money with another video...I Mena water I'm thirsty

i think weakauras have gotten out of control, I hear people needing weak auras for some of the most basic stuff in a raid. It makes me think I'm the only one with eye balls in raids as I hear people asking to share weak auras for X mechanics when all you have to do is turn on game sounds, not be colorblind, and look at the bosses movement.

As someone who doesn't depend on addons to do my gaming, bring on the private auras!

change down bad :D

20mins for this video and it's being broken into 2-3 others? Lol It doesn't need to be that long

yo dratnos

What if we disabled addons in the raid for the first couple of resets? :D Let's play with fire!

I don’t want to raid but I want to get the best gear in the game. Make all gear available everywhere.

try too make world first raider happy thats 200 people? guilds that try too get mythic down end of the season Hunderets of tousends

Private auras are terrible and should be deleted.

Please dratnos fix your audio 🥲 your mic is clipping so often. Get a compressor/limiter and adjust your gain accordingly

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Unfortunately Ion is still here ruining the game...

Please bring back borrowed power systems