Railkarting from Sieben, MT to Craig MT.

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@dougb5202 Жыл бұрын

I'm jealous! I worked in that area 8 years ago and traversed I-15 many times between Great Falls and Helena. That rail line was out of service back then and I had always wanted to make up a rail rider cart of some sort and travel the whole length. Awesome video.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@freewill1114 Жыл бұрын

Friends of mine have done that.

@glenturney4750 Жыл бұрын

@@rustyrailrunner496: You boys need a bigger horsepowered motor on that thing! Something like a 10 or 13 horsepower Briggs & Stratton, or just buy one of those 22 horsepower Vanguard motors from Harbor Freight Tools? There wouldn't be NOTHING that could slow you boys down on that if you did. It would pull ANY hills like it wasn't even there. Great video and thanks for the awesome ride-along! More please! 😁👍

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

@@glenturney4750 The kart has a 10hp B&S. The problem was the gearing. I've increased the gear to 8:1. I have a short vid showing that. The closest rail for us to test on is 6hrs away, so it's kinda 'hope for the best' whenever we take a run.

@chiefgecko Жыл бұрын

>>I had always wanted to make up a rail rider cart of some sort and travel the whole length.

@beverlymichael5830 Жыл бұрын

This is the first time I have seen riding abandoned tracks. I had not even heard of it. I so enjoyed it. I would love to do that.

@biketech60 Жыл бұрын

You may be disappointed if you watch more of them . This is one of the two best I have seen . The other was in New Zealand , no recall if north or south island .

@christsciple Жыл бұрын

This is awesome! I'm from the area. My father in law was an engineer and used to run trains on that track back in the day! I've fished and hiked all over there between Great Falls and Helena. Know that whole area like the back of my hand! Back before the railroad was around there, used to be Native American trails through those canyons, then later used by settlers headed further West! I rode my bike from GFalls to Helena and then later ran the ~90miles between the towns! My favorite place in the whole world! Railkarting looks like a ton of fun! Great video!

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the back story. I hope more people will read it!

@angelogemmato606 9 ай бұрын

Grande video 👍

@m1cxf Жыл бұрын

We never get chance to do this in the UK. Usually as soon as a line closes the rails and sleeper get taken for scrap. If anyone did try the police would be straight after them, unlike when a house gets burgled or car stolen where you are just given a crime number over the phone for your insurance. Loved tagging along for the ride.

@chrissharp5073 Жыл бұрын

As a Brit my favourite state has always been Montana and this video proves it. Stunning countryside. In the UK abandoned tracks would be ripped up with some becoming walking and cycling routes. Pity this route couldn't become a tourist railroad! Great video well filmed and presented

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ironjaw6752 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video. Back in 2008 I made a trip to take a friend of mine to see his son in Wolf Creek. He showed us around for a couple of days and I remember thinking, "This is the most beautiful place I've ever been!" We drove a couple miles down the road over the Hardy bridge. Unbelievable scenery and I didn't want to leave. Thanks for sharing this with us.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Our next trip will to Ocotillo, CA.

@creativityindy9483 Жыл бұрын

Brings back memories - back in 1960s when I was teenager I made a double-lipped wheel to attach in front my bicycle that kept the front wheel centered on the single track - worked best when I pedaled slowly, and better in theory than in practice - ha!

@andreweppink4498 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful. The rail & railway seem excellent. Dunno how it is that such beautiful engineering should be abandoned.

@knotbumper Жыл бұрын

It is not abandoned. 2 weeks ago, they pushed a cut of cars through there.

@erichegrosse6874 Жыл бұрын

Montana is beautiful country!

@loafsandfishes5066 Жыл бұрын

its not only "unabandoned, its private property and these guy are trespassers on it. And dam lucky ones at that given what knotbumper said about its active status. How fast do you think these trespassers would have sued the rightful owner if they'd encountered a train during their "adventure?

@mikekuczynski1552 Жыл бұрын

Nice , can’t believe you didn’t bring your fishing rods . Great fishing along there . Thanks for the video and until we meet again . Happy Trails

@cfb33774 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful scenery, I'm in Florida and have not seen mountains in years. I have driven to Canada and California, but that was over 20 years ago!

@JTA8130LV 15 күн бұрын

Great video, just found your channel, I’ve been watching archiemoreno and Littlefox all weekend.

@rodneydaub3812 Жыл бұрын

This is freakin' great, doing this is on my bucket list.

@YoUnOkNoWoK Жыл бұрын

Ditto

@RussellNelson Жыл бұрын

You should have rail sweeps to push small rocks off the railhead and flangeway. It will make for a much smoother ride.

@cynthiaalvarado2993 Жыл бұрын

Great trex I been wanting to build one for years now ..thanks for the great video

@umberceri1441 Жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY, UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY FASCINATING!

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's a lot of fun!

@dsbmwhacker Жыл бұрын

We rebuilt numerous highway bridges between Missouri Inn and Wolf Creek in the mid 90's. Great country! They were still running one train from Great Falls to Helena and back every day.

@philipdahl9001 Жыл бұрын

I made quite a few runs on this track in the late 70s and early 80s as an engineer. Even a couple of Amtrak detours. Nice to see it again!

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad we were able to show you some of the old track. I have a few videos from a year ago that show a portion from Pelican Point going south. I eventually want to document the whole stretch between Helena and G.F.

@Freight_Train Жыл бұрын

This is amazing on so many levels. Thanks for sharing your journey with us.

@timbaxley383 Жыл бұрын

@machinistmikethetinkerer4827 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I much prefer rails to trails to unused bike or wheeler paths. Up here in MN would be great especially as a disabled vet like me.

@mackfisher4487 Жыл бұрын

Suggestion: --- Use to track audio mixing for your KZfaq video --- Track.1. Motor car audio ( at greatly reduce audio level) Track.2. Your commentary along the way (at higher level Dove in after the fact) I like your home brew motorcar, it's your channels so you do what you need to do, my thought was if you had a good understandable commentary the trip experience for your subscribers would be enhanced.

@OzbeachAndy Жыл бұрын

Great footage and well edited. Great to see two mates doing this sort of thing. Loved it. Cheers 🍺👍🍷🇦🇺

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

That’s my brother. One of 5.

@kenrangen Жыл бұрын

Absolutely gorgeous scenery.

@johnbrownlee7623 Жыл бұрын

This looks so much like fun.............The Scenery is just breath taking...Most Excellent Video..............JB............p/s.............you forgot your fishing poles..........hahahah..........

@karlericson2 2 ай бұрын

You’ve got a fan here, l’m in Perth Western Australia. Great views of the river. Most of these railways went alongside rivers as a water source for the steam locomotives. Great for tourism now. Thank you for posting.

@aftabkhanize Жыл бұрын

MERRY CHRISTMAS and thank you for the ride through the wonderful and most peaceful countryside. God Bless

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

@steveshetterjr.6976 Жыл бұрын

this looks so much fun. Scenery is beautiful.

@dadsgonenuts Жыл бұрын

Those tunnels and scenery are awesome

@jeffammon5083 Жыл бұрын

Wow really captivated after the first 10 minutes this is a great idea I've ridden on a Mt. Bike many miles on old rr line but this...this!!

@floathi Жыл бұрын

Just plain epic.!! Thanks for sharing

@killsalive1 Жыл бұрын

oh man how cool is this? I remember driving truck through here when the line was still active

@cannon440 Жыл бұрын

Amaizing how well those tracks are. Rails kinda polished, none of it even needs tamping.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

I want to thank my brother, Bryce, for editing many hours of video and making this really awesome video.

@QUIXNZ Жыл бұрын

Editing? It usually also concerns discovering a/v faults instead of just "placing" clips together. During editing, if SERIOUS audio faults - or in your case, almost total LACK of audio occurs, then editing should STOP. Do the video again (as in do the full rail-run again) with "fixed" equipment. Don't just give your audience a visual with stutteringly MISSING audio. That's just arrogant in the extreme. How the hell are we supposed to "know" what you said. From 8:07 to 10:16 the audio was either completely missing, or at best a complete garble of staccato blips and burps, with NOTHING legible at all !!!! After 10:17 you have several STATIONARY CAMERA (tripod & between rail clips) with FULL audio, until finally 11:04 your hand-held camera ACTUALLY STARTED recording audio ? OMG.. That was until you LH mic collapsed at 11:57 with the RH mic following shortly after at 12:04 & went back to crappy haphazard audio again. I'm thinking VIDEO HOLDER MAN, was putting his big thumb over the mic vents, eliminating most of the full-noise audio. There were a few bumps and rail noises, but zip all of anything else. I have given up watching this "so-called" edited crap, (at 12:34) as it wasn't edited, it was just strung along one clip after the other, with ZERO editing to ensure the audio was there.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

@@QUIXNZ I suppose you wrote all that thinking my brother would think it useful. You seemed to feel obligated to present unwanted critique of his work. I viewed your channel and found no good example to your ‘work’.

@philipoien7562 Жыл бұрын

@@QUIXNZ REALLY!!! My goodness. Why such criticism! This video was a fascinating ride through a rarely seen area. Mute the audio if you don't like it, and enjoy the visuals. . . In keeping with your practice of offering unsolicited information, I'll offer mine: I intentionally play most trekking and project completion videos at 2X speed, mute the audio, and slow things down, sometimes down to 1/4 speed, if there is something I am interested in the detail of. For example, I slowed my replay of the encounter with the fishermen down to normal speed, so I could listen to the exchanged conversation. . . Just a thought. . . You know, with all your editing skills, you could make the video play backwards, and make the audio play backwards too, and then we can all find out if @Rusty Rail Runner has any hidden messages somehow blended into all the '"so-called" edited crap" as you deemed it, just like the idiots did in playing the Beetles' music backwards. . . I see a whole new channel for you of your own creation where you "properly" edit other people's content. . . Just imagine the possibilities!!!!!! . . . Take care

@petersmith5199 Жыл бұрын

I saw your 2 videos on your channel. Have you stopped taking your medication?

@PeterT1981 Жыл бұрын

Great editing job. Wonderful “B”reel action. Very entertaining

@flick22601 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the ride along. Wish I was with you.

@Lithonion1 Жыл бұрын

That looks like a lot of fun. When I lived in MT as a child we just jumped on a train passing through town and rode that way. lol

@lorengordon9626 Жыл бұрын

Used to drive the canyon several times a week and didnt think the tracks were intact. We lived close to wolf creek. Cool !

@larryw76 9 ай бұрын

Cool ride,wish I was there. Hello from Texas

@JimNichols Жыл бұрын

pretty country! Thanks for the ride along!

@rambojambone4586 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m moving to Montana soon. Planning on becoming a dental floss tycoon.

@Mrbeahz1 Жыл бұрын

Ride out on the border line on your pygmy pony?

@specialed6357 Жыл бұрын

I've always wanted to be a spatula salesman at Spatula City.

@randallburgess46 Жыл бұрын

This was a great adventure to be sure! Very interesting idea and simple fabrication and materials. 📕

@ponyrang Жыл бұрын

My best friend, Super! Looked, very interesting! I liked your work! I enjoyed watch your video. Thanks!

@autocad3227 Жыл бұрын

That is one of the neatest videos I have ever seen. It's very peaceful and I would love to do it.

@jessejames586 Жыл бұрын

This looks like so much fun. All the unused rail lines in Massachusetts are turned into bike rail trails.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Same in Wyoming. Rails to Trails is the boon to mankind!

@john6218att Жыл бұрын

@@rustyrailrunner496 sad to see torn up rails for bike trail use,

@uvchannels Жыл бұрын

Wish I could take such ride someday...best wishes from India..

@ancipital Жыл бұрын

Over in the UK, have watched some of your vids and it’s interesting to see the places you visit and go past. Hopefully you don’t get hassled by the police, I see comments about private property and stuff and don’t know the laws over there, some of the bridges and places you’ve been, don’t look like they’d hold up a full size loco never mind a full length train, doubt they’d ever be brought back into service due to the immense cost of getting them service ready otherwise they would have kept up the maintenance. Stay safe!

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

We like to operate on its better to ask forgiveness than permission. We always put safety third. Tends to be more of an adventure that way.

@GpunktHartman Жыл бұрын

Just say you an tecnican on inspectiontour ☝️🧐👍

@freewill1114 Жыл бұрын

@@GpunktHartman A friend of mine actually had a shirt made that said "Rail Inspector"on the back.

@RRaucina Жыл бұрын

They still run some trains on those tracks. They are safe.

@loafsandfishes5066 Жыл бұрын

@@RRaucina NO active train line is "safe" to operate on without the knowledge and permission of its owner

@williamchristian8389 Жыл бұрын

That is so Great! I love Montana.!

@TheManCaveMetalFab2580 10 ай бұрын

That looks like a lot of fun!! rail sweeps is a good idea. Also, if you’re going to run a 1 inch axle with that much weight, you might want to think about adding outside reinforcements to keep the axles from bending just an idea!!

@bwmcelya Жыл бұрын

Man, that’s one cold blooded cool thing to do. A no traffic highway. Good work. Rig one up to take passengers for hire. I’d pay.

@sultanmahmood9634 10 ай бұрын

Can,t go there, but visited, all your enthusiatic efforts, we enjoy equally

@marksmith7054 Жыл бұрын

when I lived in that area I always wanted to walk that rail line and fish as much of the Prickly pear creek as possible, I've fished a little bit of it and have caught some BIG trout.

@rcclassiccrawlers4368 Жыл бұрын

Cool video! That would be a great time. Always want to join one of those Putt Putt clubs and buy a unit but it turns out that they have quite a price tag attached to them. Even the junkers are spendy.

@dankingjr.2088 Жыл бұрын

OK, that was a fun video. Thanks fort the look.

@arthurschipper8906 Жыл бұрын

What RxR used to run on those tracks?

@joyceleadbetter2600 Жыл бұрын

Anyway to convert a old pickup or SUVs to ride the rails ?

@romnickz9 Жыл бұрын

First part: why is your camera so far away from the guys preparing the rail cart.. Later portions? "Breathtaking views. Love it!!

@williambryce8527 Жыл бұрын

It's not totally abandoned, BNSF uses it to store railcars when the need extra space. 2 years ago GreatFalls Tribune had a big story about it when people were complaining.

@redlight722 Жыл бұрын

So you got the railroads permission then? If not you just posted a clip trespassing.

@pappysproductions Жыл бұрын

Good thing all these KARENS show up to warn us of possible trespassing! Thank you ladies, but I'll take my chances

@jeffammon5083 Жыл бұрын

Electric hub motors ,lipo batteries, solar and regenerative charger as well as plug in ...miles of adventure

@BBQDad463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. Sweet scenery. Seats look comfy. Too bad about the bent axle, I hope you can manage to fix it without too much trouble or expense. Subscribed.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

The seats are out of a Lincoln Navigator. The axle is just 1” cold rolled steel. Not terribly expensive. Glad you liked the video. thanks

@isleno101 Жыл бұрын

Wow! How blessed you are. And thank you for sharing. I've also enjoyed the many comments and experiences that others have shared. Sadly, there are always the few who can't help but throw in their negativity rather than sitting back and enjoying what they themselves will likely never experience. Oh well... such is life, I guess. Some people spread the joy and others the misery. Just subcribed and notice you've shared many more. Thanks.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

I can't tell you how fun it is! I've been building and modifying the karts for 2 years. Each trip shows me parts that need improvement. Thanks!

@MilkywaySoulTribe Жыл бұрын

very fun and loved the view thanks

@TheReal10bears Жыл бұрын

I fly fished alot on wolf creek & the Missouri river from Holter lake to Craig & Walker those tracks alot as a kid camping & fishing the area. Some of those tracks have been unused for 50 years

@justken4851 Жыл бұрын

Can you explain your track wheel components and where you purchased them? Thanks, Ken.

@stevearmstrong4561 Жыл бұрын

Runaway rail cart on a steep grade!..Now that's adventure..

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Lol. I’m really glad I have a brake!

@dandrews319 Жыл бұрын

Such a beautiful state! Thanks for the share would love to ride those rails one day. What wheels are you using and where did you find them?

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

The wheels are from Hamilton Casting.

@glenturney4750 Жыл бұрын

@@rustyrailrunner496: TOO bad they didn't have a rubber sleeve over them, the ride would be much smoother and quieter for you fellas. Just a thought. 😁👍

@andrewcheff4035 Жыл бұрын

That looked like a lot of fun!

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

It is!

@boe4448 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, that was apretty ride. Hope the axle fix is simple. Boe

@Terry4413 Жыл бұрын

This is the coolest thing I've seen in a while! Fyi, I subscribed however I'm unable to use notifications because KZfaq this this content is for kids!! It says content for kids has the notifications disabled. Never seen that before.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’ll check into the notification thing.

@MollydogRadar Жыл бұрын

Looks like you need to straighten that axel. Regardless, it looks like fun. Also, you can make good rail wheels out of go cart rims.

@roostercogburn809 Жыл бұрын

Hell, I'd pay good money for this trip...

@julie652 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant I want a go on it 👍👍

@markdeschane4467 Жыл бұрын

Where is this video taken? I think we're looking at standard gauge track. Obviously abandoned and somewhere out west?.

@ericperkins3078 Жыл бұрын

Uh, Montana? Title to the video maybe?

@vanguardactual1 Жыл бұрын

How did you warp your axles and where did you find the track wheels on your Bug out train buggy or did you make them from something else?

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

The wheel are from Hamilton Casting.

@philipoien7562 Жыл бұрын

@@rustyrailrunner496 Did you answer somewhere else here in the comments how you bent your axles? I'm curious too.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

@@philipoien7562 We had to change tracks and we got the wheels bound up between the rail and bent the axle before we realized it was in a bind.

@robertsinick2180 Жыл бұрын

MY I DO SAY TO BOTH OF YOU YOUNG MEN WHAT A VIDEO I DID SO ENJOY AND HOPE THAT I SEE MORE IN THE FUTURE AND AGAIN THANK YOU. ROBBIE PHILADELPHIA PA FISHTOWN

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the young men part. Just know my brother is 2 years, 2 days older than me. We plan to go back to Ocotillo, CA to run the Carrizo Gorge RR sometime soon. Thanks for watching. greg

@bocabec6744 Жыл бұрын

Some great video boys! It's really pretty out there. I must admit, I've never been. Are there safe place to camp out that way. I have a small 18 foot camper trailer and would like to explore that area someday. I live in Nashua, NH and winter down here in South Florida. My camper stays north and basically I bought it for a "get-out" vehicle. A full tank of fuel and two 5 gallons of fuel will get me into Canada with some fuel left over for my Vespa Scooter. The 2010 Ford F-150 V-8 is a gas hog. But the truck gives a nice ride.

@DeanMk1 Жыл бұрын

Looks like the rail line they used in a "A River Runs Through It".

@HebrewHammerArmsCo 7 ай бұрын

I wish I could do this in my country, we have over 1000 km near me of abandoned rail line, But the states still own the line even though it hasnt been used in decades....

@rogerdudra178 Жыл бұрын

Greetings from the BIG SKY. I fished there.

@TheBrucelog Жыл бұрын

This is done a lot in south east Asia. Carry whole families on big pallets. Called bamboo trains.

@jamesdodd7404 Жыл бұрын

Back in my younger days we took the tires off the rims and rode that way until we slowed the train down on day.

@jimhaldemanpossumman7994 Жыл бұрын

That's a pretty nice railroad to be abandoned. Who used it and when was it abandoned?

@timgiles9413 Ай бұрын

How many miles?

@martinwade9421 Жыл бұрын

Looks beautiful. needs a small trailer carrying a Canadian canoe or a small inflatable for the fishing.

@utahradioman Жыл бұрын

What a great way to see the country!!!🙋‍♂️❤️🛤💯

@Sillyturner Жыл бұрын

Is that a former Great Northern or NP line. I’ve been along the old Milwaukee line a few times but now this area.

@MrWirebrain Жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Great video.

@johnpullman3227 Жыл бұрын

How did you get across Walsh rd in Wolf Creek?

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

I have pneumatic wheels I slip on the ends of the axle and just roll it across.

@wtxrailfan Жыл бұрын

Sad that you can't even escape the ghetto taggers out in the sticks. Thanks for the video.

@BhupinderSingh-tt9ox Жыл бұрын

The moving cars and trucks on highway along the track really gives sigh of relief...we aren't alone....👍 Beautifully videographed... good landscape..were u equipped with some communication network?

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! We had cell service to entire trip.

@donniedale3522 Жыл бұрын

Hey guys, I think you have given me idea's. I have a big shop, and know how to weld and fabricate metal, for 45 years. I could see me doin this. Thanks yall, from Kentucky.

@chrisk7626 Жыл бұрын

Really cool would love to do this would love to build one of my own love the way you built your cart nice comfortable seats with the motor behind you so you're not sucking up the fumes only have one concern your axle system needs some upgrading that front one is clearly wobbling bad just use much thicker Steel I know it's probably a cost issue but other than that it's awesome the only thing I would think about doing is putting some sort of rubber on the wheels so it's quieter and more traction but thinking it through I certainly wouldn't want to smell them if they started to burn that would be a mistake we're some investigation though don't you think or some super hard plastics you could have the machined like dolorin I'm sure that's not spelled correctly but you get my idea if you build stuff this think like the wheels on a roller coaster far you could even have one of those people who owns their own digital printer or 3D printer make the wheels just for more pleasurable ride either way too cool thanks a lot I really enjoyed it

@rdsieben Жыл бұрын

Tracks are in good condition. when was it last used?

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

I’m hearing the tracks haven’t been used for 20 yrs or so.

@yesode4201 Жыл бұрын

Fun! Thank you.

@fritzbasset8645 Жыл бұрын

Be careful everyone. This railroad is BNSF and is out of service, not abandoned. If you get busted on a motorcar trespassing, the consequences are NOT a slap on the wrist. Find somewhere else to run your machines.

@marianbaba8315 Жыл бұрын

cum se numeste acest mijloc de tranaaport

@bertdellaluna5612 Жыл бұрын

looks like it can be very interesting fun.

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

It’s a lot of fun!

@aaronhausken3226 Жыл бұрын

that bent axle would drive me nutty. kinda wonder if part of a small innertube stretched tight over the wheels would cut down on noise a bit. id keep the gas engine and maybe add a hybrid option. it would be nice to have a quieter ride but with bears around it is a good idea to be noisy.

@arthurcutaiar9994 Жыл бұрын

Hybrid! Are you for real

@josephineledford351 Жыл бұрын

Assuming you came across an area that still has power going to crossing gates would this cart set them off?

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

No. These tracks are completely inactive.

@garrettkessler1895 Жыл бұрын

What kind of engine are you using?

@rustyrailrunner496 Жыл бұрын

It’s a 10hp Briggs&Stratton. I used a centrifugal clutch #40 chain drive 8:1 ratio

@theaofthemountains5922 Жыл бұрын

How did you bend your axel? that must been a odd ride from then on. Is your rail cart gas or electric?, and did you meet any wild life along the way,? except the 2 fishermen. How long was this ride in total? I'm smiling, so happy that you shared this trip, I love the scenery and clackaty clack. Hope you do more trips, after you fix the axel... All my best