Ram 1500 3.0L HURRICANE Twin-Turbo I-6 Engine | Pros Vs Cons of DUMPING the 5.7L Hemi V8

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2 ай бұрын

The 2025 Ram 1500's are coming with the Stellantis 3L inline 6 Twin-Turbo charged Hurricane engine and I Highlight the pros and the Cons of leaving behind the Iconic 5.7L Hemi. I discuss the Benefits of the smaller displacement 3L Hurricane engine like better towing, more power, better fuel economy (MPG) and less emissions. Lastly I talk about some Negative aspects of this new twin turbo charged engine in the ram 1500 truck platform as a Heavy duty mechanic.
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The first benefit of this inline 6 twin turbo charged engine and what I actually really like as a heavy duty mechanic is that RAM went with an inline-6 engine design. I think this type of engine design is highly advantageous for pick up trucks because it allows for great torque generation with a naturally long stroke.
an inline-6 engine design is also wonderfully naturally balanced and leads to very nice linear power delivery. it is also much simpler then a v6 deisgn so I'm really happy to see ram go this route.
the second benefit is towing and power, this hurricane 3L inline 6 engine with its turbos will give this ram 1500 so much more power and ideally lead to much better towing and power.
the third benefit is the lower emissions going to be produced as well as the lower fuel economy especially around town with the smaller displacement.
on the flip side the first con or dis-advantage of this inline 6 hurricane engine is the sound. you can't beat the sound of the 5.7L hemi and I'm going to miss it.
the second disadvantage is simplicity, I think any turbo charged engine is going to be much more complex then a Naturally aspirated V8 like the 5.7L hemi and this added complexity could lead to worse reliability and longevity. especially with the price of trucks these days. buyers want to make sure they are getting a quality product and engine.
the third disadvantage was a little shocking to me and that is max towing capacity has taken a large hit with these smaller 3L turbo charged engines in comparison to the 5.7L hemi. the High output version of the 3L hurricane engine is slotted to tow 2,000lbs less weight then the older v8 hemi which does not make much sense to me.
let me know what you guys think!

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@josipdolic6391 2 ай бұрын

Buy your V8 till they completely disappear and keep em in shape for the next decade to prove that it was the right thing

@johnwhite5154 2 ай бұрын

Wish the 5.7 was the base, the pentastar can kick rocks

@dawsongranger4940 2 ай бұрын

Why? It is a super reliable workhorse that does its job. Sure its no v8 but when all you need is a basic truck its perfectly adequate

@gtrance3567 2 ай бұрын

Pentistar is more reliable.

@erikmireles5879 2 ай бұрын

Id rather have a pentastar with lower gears than be a guinea for the hurricane

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

I do think the pentastar is a solid engine

@banginsteel4978 2 ай бұрын

I like my Pentastar, great fuel economy, smooth and quiet. I don't tow anything heavy. My boat is 4000# an it does fine.

@kb9oak749 2 ай бұрын

I predict fuel economy for the I6 will be less than or equal to the v8. Turbos are great for power. Not so much for MPG.

@chris2901 2 ай бұрын

According the EPA, the I-6 HO 4wd gets literally the same mpg as a 1500 4wd. The non-HO I6 gets 2-3mpg more than both of those. Insanely negligible difference if its true.

@user-ju1qx9dc3w 2 ай бұрын

Also factor in the premium gas you’re supposed to run with those engines and now you’re paying more for fuel

@blackcoffee730 2 ай бұрын

@@user-ju1qx9dc3w absolutely

@CJColvin 2 ай бұрын

Not that much better MPG to be honest

@user-ju1qx9dc3w 2 ай бұрын

@@c4t-tp238 well we’ll see what the numbers are using regular gas. Probably the same as the hemi

@bradtoepfer289 2 ай бұрын

Honestly, 1/2 ton trucks are mainly for hauling your butt around…or smaller trailers, 4 wheeler trailers, etc. When you get to 10,000 pounds on a half ton, it can be a little scary. If you want to tow 10k or more safely and without worry, you’ll want the 2500 anyway.

@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын

Agree, a 1/2 ton pulling 10k lb trailers is really kinda out of its league

@gregdcross Ай бұрын

IMHO, 1/2 ton is safe to pull a trailer to 5,000 lbs. 5K-10K a 3/4 tin pickup. Over 10K, get a 1 ton or larger. Not because of the power train, but brakes and the heft of the frame and suspension.

@roadglide1142 2 ай бұрын

The reduced towing & payload tells you all you need to know about the tiny overstressed V6’s reliability! 😂 I recently picked up a new leftover 2023 Ram 2500 6.4 truck & a 2022 Dodge Scatpack 485HP Challenger 6 speed ! I’m Hemi for life ! 💪

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Its a head scratcher indeed, especially since the HO will be running 3.92 gears and the same 8 speed. Say what you want about fords 3.5 Ecoboost engine but at least they intended on it being put to work.

@Kenneth_R 2 ай бұрын

Its because of cooling limitations of the turbo engine in hotter conditions

@yentrader 2 ай бұрын

Not a V configuration. Straight 6 much better.

@Kanakid 2 ай бұрын

Me too! New Power Wagon with 6.4 Hemi. I also have a Challenger with 6.4 Hemi with six speed standard. Love em all!!

@jdh1976sr 2 ай бұрын

Could it be possibly that FCA is taking a page from the Toyota playbook and severely underrating this power train for longevity? Just a thought?

@SWATT101 2 ай бұрын

No replacement for displacement... Fiat and quality lol...good one

@mjuberian 21 күн бұрын

did you come with that phrase all by yourself?

@rockymountainjazzfan1822 2 ай бұрын

The 5.7 Hemi has one fatal flaw--idling destroys it way ahead of its time. Law enforcement where I lived used Ram 1500s with the Hemi. Because of all of the radios, computer equipment, emergency lighting, etc., those trucks, by necessity, were left running for hours at a time--with a lot of idling. Those Hemi engines rarely lasted 100K miles in that application--the lack of adequate oil lubrication at idle caused the engines to wear excessively and fail early, even with good maintenance and frequent oil changes. To be fair, no current generation GDI gas engine will tolerate extended idling very well at all. The only reason that so many current generation vehicles are going to smaller displacement turbocharged engines is because the smaller displacement uses less fuel at idle and low RPM, and the EPA fuel economy test regimen is biased toward "city" driving cycles, where idling and low RPM operation are common.

@darkglide24 2 ай бұрын

I think I seen somewhere hemis have to be around 1500rpm for everything to be lubricated correctly.

@okcmoparguy724 2 ай бұрын

Idling doesn't hurt the hemi, it's changing the oil based on miles instead of hours when it's idled for long durations. The ones we see with cam/lifter issues all have a lot of hours yet still getting oil changes every 6000-7000 miles. The owners get an oil change message on the cluster but ignore or reset it. By the time a service is performed the oil is worn out and can't provide sufficient lubrication. If the guage cluster tells you to change the oil it's not wrong.

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Ya agreed I think its very fair to say idling the Hemi's were an issue. it was not a perfect engine. that being said I would much rather idle a hemi then a twin turbo engine for 8 hours. Very interesting about the EPA testing, I want to look more into that. thank you.

@DH-hp7nv 2 ай бұрын

@@okcmoparguy724 I will say that where i am, our fleet garage mandates oil change every 4k miles. Zero excuses, suspension is a likely disciplinary action. But even at 4k mile oil changes, we have so many issues with any hemi. The pentastar v6 is holding up much better.

@DH-hp7nv 2 ай бұрын

I will agree to a degree. No matter how soon the intervals of maitenance, those hemis have been nothing but trouble. I recall my 2012 charger needing two new engines and one top end job. The ford v6 in the explorer has been the most reliable in years. But no matter what, those long hours of sitting on the job at idle is detrimental on all of them.

@Sl4ck3r84 2 ай бұрын

Well balanced video, appreciate the honesty for both pros and cons. Going to miss the HEMI, no doubt about it. Looking forward to the next video, good stuff!

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Thank you sir! lots of pros for both engines would of been nice to see both as options for the 2025 trucks. sort of like what ford has done. given both options to buyers.

@mcmehlen 2 ай бұрын

Should still offer it as an option instead of entirely getting rid of the v8

@rj3075 2 ай бұрын

They can’t.

@mcmehlen 2 ай бұрын

@@rj3075 Then why does Ford and GM still offer the 5.3 and 5.0 in addition to their boosted smaller displacement motors?

@khakiswag 2 ай бұрын

Ford was smart enough to keep the 5.0 available for customers who gotta have a V8. But the 5.0 is much more advanced than the HEMI so I guess it doesn’t have problems with emissions.

@rj3075 2 ай бұрын

@@mcmehlen The coyote and GM engines are much more advanced and efficient engines than the hemi so it’s easier for the those to pass emissions.

@michaelschneider- 2 ай бұрын

@@khakiswag .. Copy That ..

@JustSomeGuy641 2 ай бұрын

Chop off 2 cylinders add immense complexity take away standard features charge 20+k more. Great idea.

@bryanmiller5692 2 ай бұрын

Immense complexity?? lol turbos are not complex 😂😂

@JustSomeGuy641 2 ай бұрын

@bryanmiller5692 depends on how far they bury them. But your right kind of maybe

@dal6243 Ай бұрын

@@bryanmiller5692it means higher maintenance and more frequent oil changes

@realcdcruze3558 2 ай бұрын

Buy a used V8 from the South without rust and keep it running. I think there is a reason why people are keeping old trucks longer and potentially replacing the engines if the body is sound. In the North, unfortunately, the body and frame will go before the engine no matter what rust protection you do.

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

the salt and de-icer they now use is just so tough on the vehicles. I get my truck undercoated twice a year and get under every oil change to spray down surface rust. but its a losing battle.

@2500mike 2 ай бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures Definitely helps though and from what I have seen can save frames for 20+ years. Fenders and cab corners maybe not as well. But that's much easier to replace

@pahillbillypappysteve2357 Ай бұрын

live in snow belt mountains of pa and get krown rust proofing done for the past 5 years and my ram looks great so far. I take it once a year and get it done. I am doing it to the wife's subaru accent since 2020 and it looks great also. I recommend krown rust proofing if u want to keep something.

@ctfan1486 Ай бұрын

A dodge without rust? Thats funny

@pahillbillypappysteve2357 Ай бұрын

@@ctfan1486 it is a ram without rust thanks to Krown!

@eugenex.p.3430 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Alex for another freaking good truck video. 👍

@jpadilla21 2 ай бұрын

I just bought a Ram Rebel GT (defected from ford). Love the Hemi!

@LindsayPeters987 2 ай бұрын

Love how digestable your videos are. New shop looks great!

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Lindsay, you should come by sometime and check it out

@austinkeen4577 2 ай бұрын

The hemi is easily one of the engines of all time. Love mine more every day!

@SoonerMikeD 2 ай бұрын

Definitely one of the engines of all time 😆

@jimmyneutron3055 2 ай бұрын

Yep most recognizable at the shop for ticking sound

@imabebebebe2496 2 ай бұрын

I'd argue it's the most engine of all time.

@cyclonicblade 2 ай бұрын

The 6.1 sure.

@BabyGators 2 ай бұрын

Not only that, it's the engine ever. A truly

@blueheelerfriend8450 2 ай бұрын

I really wish Ford had used the straight six in their new F-150s instead of a V6 as well...😊 I've had a few different cars and trucks with straight sixes and they were always the most reliable/smooth running engines for me.

@tinleo333 2 ай бұрын

So now the Ram is i6 also Mercedes and Mazda using it. I6>v6.

@zBPS Ай бұрын

The ecoboost is already pretty good as is, but it could probably be so much better with an I6

@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын

@@zBPS I think ford went with the v6 instead of an inline 6 is because it is a dimensionally smaller engine. Possibly the in-line wouldn’t fit in the current engine compartments. Who knows, only ford does I guess

@dd5744 2 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to see you do a tow test with one. Would love to see a test with the standard output and the high output just to see the difference between the two.

@nigelhenry5741 2 ай бұрын

Why not offer both. The loyal traditional v8 engine guy can get a simpler to work on engine and the new engine can break in over time with newer truck buyers who never had a hemi with that wonderful sound. Ford figured it out and as far as I know, Ford offers both. Guess that is why they outsell everyone.

@vr4787 2 ай бұрын

I’m going to hold onto my Ram 1500 Hemi Classic as long as possible. I just like how it purrs and how simple it is to modify and work on. It does everything I need the truck to do while getting decent mpg. Can’t ask for anything more, and I even managed to pay it off early when they were going for $32k.

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

the fourth gen rams are great trucks.

@privateer9181 2 ай бұрын

when the waranty expires on these Direct injected turbo inside no dipstick engines.. good luck

@richardkent9621 2 ай бұрын

RELIABILITY !!!! That is the only thing that REALLY matters with this new engine. I would not touch one of these engines for at least 3 years. I have a 2011 F150 but I like Ram also. Can't afford a new truck at these prices, so hope I can keep mine going.

@CJColvin 2 ай бұрын

Nice, is you're F150 a 5.0 or an EcoBoost?

@rickkent4367 2 ай бұрын

5L so far been a decent truck other than 3 broken springs, driveshaft, and a lack of heat in the winter. Think it’s better now but still doesn’t put out a ton of heat

@johnhahn8464 2 ай бұрын

@@rickkent4367what springs broke? How'd the driveshaft break and at what mileage? Are you referring to the u-joints? Any idea what's wrong with the heater? All very interesting

@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын

Then again doesn’t Ram have a 3 yr bumper to bumper warranty?

@Bradimus1 23 күн бұрын

Maybe by next year then as it has been out in the Wagoneer already.

@colbiecolbie6979 2 ай бұрын

I hope my PW lasts me forever! Hasn’t seen a winter yet since “17. Central Ontario. Great stuff keeper going

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

I would love the keep the PW off the road in the winter but the roads get nasty up here and it warms my heart knowing I have the best truck for the job when the snow flies.

@jackiehardy8192 27 күн бұрын

Whats a PW

@davidleslie949 2 ай бұрын

I am enjoying the video so far. The only discrepancy is where you've made reference to the ability for the new ram 1500 to tow less weight than the newer ram with a bigger displacement of horsepower and torque. The rated towing capacity of any vehicle has absolutely nothing to do with the engine, or the displacement of the engine or the amount of torque. It has everything to do with the building for the vehicle to stop by using the breaking system in the vehicle in order to safely tow a load at the maximum rated capacity. Some of the heavier duty models with larger breaking systems. Have your suspension will be able to tow more than a standard RAM REBEL would be able to based on the building for the vehicle able to come to a stopping position safely within a certain distance. A vehicle is up to speed. Vehicles in motion in order to stay in motion it needs very little engine displacement and that's where the 3 L comes into effect where once the ram 1500 with in-line 6 cylinder is up it doesn't need much to keep it going to keep momentum. Getting up to speed that's where the turbo chargers come into play. so often people are interpreting or misunderstanding what the rated tow capacity of any vehicle. It's so based on the ability for that vehicle to come to a stop safely with maximum rated towing hall in the back of the vehicle and also in the bed of the truck. We've all done it put too much weight in the back of our pick up truck and noticed how much longer it takes to get up to speed and back down to speed when breaking. This is clear evidence of a vehicle, needing more breaking ability on the weight being towed or loaded in the back of the pick up truck directly over the rear axle. This is why people are having a lot of difficulty understanding how vehicle with more rated horsepower and more rated torque can actually tow less than the original ram 1500 platform. Hope this helps everyone but it's just that simple how rated the rated capacity of any vehicle is calculated. Keep in mind that in order to meet the EPA standards for missions. The vehicle also needs to be lighter, and could be at the sacrifice of suspension, steering and breaking components of a vehicle. Steering and stopping are the two most critical systems in any vehicle for safety but Could come at a loss of vehicle performance in a towing situation. 90% of pick up truck owners with myself included do not need all that horsepower and torque on a daily basis. 90% of the vehicle sales are too non-commercial drivers of the ram 1500. That being said, I think this is what Stellantis was banking on, and then the commercial pick up truck portion could be compensated with the diesel option which is better suited for towing capacity loads based on the amount of torque, a diesel engine is able to produce given power band compression ignited or TDI ENGINE ON THE ABILITY FOR THE FUEL INJECTORS TO START INJECTING FUEL BEFORE TDC & well after TDC of the engines pistons. Diesel engines are much an electric motor, except for the responsiveness of diesel engines, but once under load quickly compensate for the power lag Once underload. Great video I enjoy the content.. keep up the great work!

@chuckz8053 Ай бұрын

Heat soak from power density on long, steep grades is what's at play.

@ColJonSquall1 2 ай бұрын

The issue with the H/O Inline 6, is Ram is locking it behind premium trims. If they were to offer it on a base work truck, then it would likely tow more. The biggest negative for towing is content, the more you load up a truck, the less it can tow. As all those creature comforts and luxury items, add weight to the frame, which in turn takes away from capacity. The 2025's towing overall being lower, is likely due to all the new features being added, including autonomous driving, all those new modules/computer systems add weight.

@darkglide24 2 ай бұрын

That’s about like gm and the 6.2. I would like a rcsb with a 6.2 or even a 5.3. You can only get the 2.7 or what ever the 4 cylinder is in short box.

@dylanbailey2812 2 ай бұрын

I feel like if that added weight noticeably detracts from your engine's performance, then your engine is too small to begin with

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

thats probably all very true, but Its a tough look.

@bikerevolutiontv 2 ай бұрын

I heard that this motor that also comes in the wagoner has 24 pounds of boost. My prediction is that these motors will not last. My 15 liter Cummins will max out around 25 pounds. 25 is too much for this little dodge

@johnhahn8464 2 ай бұрын

@@dylanbailey2812it not that it takes away performance it's all about gvwr. If the gvwr is 12k the added d.features weigh more and take away from that 12k. A tailgate with the convenient step is rough 1k by itself so options weigh more unfortunately

@marshallgerow3277 2 ай бұрын

You should be able to test one soon we have a lot of the 2025 1500 standard output units on the lots here in grand rapids MI.

@aarons307 2 ай бұрын

Your spot on from the duty cycle perspective. The new 3.0 Hurricane will not reject heat as well as the 5.7 Hemi. That is a topic a RAM engineer discussed in a podcast I listened on Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk. Guess we'll see in a year or two from now how it performs when being worked. Could be just one of those "designer" type of engines made for short towing trips... IDK?

@ridewot 2 ай бұрын

I recognized parents country store you were at the gas station😊 Caswell Maine !!

@Bradimus1 23 күн бұрын

I drove this new I6 yesterday. Extremely smooth and quiet. Definitely more power than the Hemi. Really it's only the sound to miss. And I'm driving a Hemi now.

@sw5334 2 ай бұрын

If you can only get the high output on the top trim levels then that explains the lower tow rating and payload. Those trucks are heavier so naturally the payload and towing goes down.

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

it does make some sense but you see fords big boy 3.5L ecoboost offered in almost every trim level and a tow rating of like 14k. I don't understand why they wouldn't at least make it an option for someone looking to tow in a lower trim.

@sw5334 2 ай бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures good point. That’s a huge difference. That’s going to be sending people to ford for sure. I’m surprised the difference.

@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures it’s all about the $$$🙂 unfortunately

@boatstuffintheglen7518 2 ай бұрын

great video. good coverage of the pros and cons of the hurricane. I think it will work for the 1500 trucks. The lower towing is not a big deal, over 7K towing should be using a hd truck. Wondering what you think about the future of HD trucks. Cummins has the same block with gas, diesel, hydrogen, etc. for their next gen engines. Could that be the replacement for the 6.4 hemi?

@IcanDriveIt 2 ай бұрын

Inline 6s are awesome, especially turbo ones. I have a V8 dodge Ram now, and seeing as everyone is upset about the hurricane powered rams, I might score a deal on one

@DynoSauR4Truth 2 ай бұрын

Both Toyota and Ford went with a larger 6 cylinder. 3 liters is still a little small.

@parrott350 2 ай бұрын

The V8 is dead. Long Live the V8 ! climate con by the EPA, Battery trucks LOL Good video Alex

@sarrum7696 2 ай бұрын

Very happy with my 2020 Rebel and it's 5.7l Hemi. 🥰

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

They are nice trucks.

@jasonbrushett2005 2 ай бұрын

No, we all are not going to miss the rumble.My neighbor has the same truck as your test rig,dear Lord,I can hear that every morning on startup! I wish he'd get rid of it lol. I think the Hurricane is going to be a winner for Ram.As for dropping 1000lbs ,I think that's a non issue because most 1/2 ton tow ratings are inflated,especially with Ram and its coil springs.The Hurricane will make the Hemi a thing of the past.I'm a Ford Ecoboost guy,kudos to 🐏. I'm excited to try one.

@vinnyivanov2906 2 ай бұрын

Working in a professional auto shop, the hemi tick is not overblown. It was not only v8 but also v6 plagued with that. We repair at least 1 a week

@LeadStarDude Ай бұрын

Yeah mixing VVT with MDS really borked the Hemi engines. Yeah they gained both power and fuel economy, but I would always trade both for reliability. Glad I have a 2005 model. One thing I recommend is swapping out the oil pump to a high flow pump. That eliminates most of the issue because it is typically caused by poor oil flow at idle. You can put the original pressure spring in there to prevent getting too much oil pressure, but still have better oil flow at idle. Which protect the lifters and cam from the dreaded "hemi tick".

@Kingswood7189 2 ай бұрын

Even though my '04 durango (5.7l v8) gets only ~14 mpg mixed, its less costly to fill her up than to make a monthly payment while getting 2-3 mpg better (presumably). Especially after having a magnaflow 3" in/3" out exhaust installed, that v8 rumble is amazing. My only real gripe with the "hemi" is having 16 sparkplugs, but she works. Just my $0.02. :)

@grahamrothphotography 2 ай бұрын

Love my hemi in my 11 jeep GC, in getting a used new to me rear diff, limited slip clutches wore out (215,000kms) I have a 2024 GMC Sierra 5.3L rental, engine is so quiet, good power. But lacks the v8 growl

@jameseroh6544 2 ай бұрын

Get the Trutrac LSD. The Trutrac is a gear type and work very well. If you stick with the clutch type, use Lucas Synthetic gear Lube. The performance difference is quite good. My '03 Ford Explorer has the clutch type LSD. The Lucas Synthetic gear Lube has it running strong at 227,000 miles. My '96 ZJ has a Dana 44 with the gear type LSD. It is my most capable 4wd out in the desert. My '23 Jeep JLU will get Trutracs front and rear.

@glenrlively1 13 күн бұрын

Love the color combo

@dannymauch 19 күн бұрын

I love the Hemi and hate RAM doesn’t even offer it as an option but the HO option on the limited trucks is fast AF! Not everyone can afford a 80K base model limited though. That’s the beauty of the Hemi. You can build on a budget.

@agerardomp 2 ай бұрын

Greetings Alex. Of course I love V8 ... Nothing like that sound challenging specially HEMI. BUT I recognize that one of the main objectives is heavy lifting, which is increasingly difficult to load and tow. In that sense I go with the best efficiency and effectiveness and respect for the environment. Totally agree with your analysis of advantages and disadvantages. I love the Rebel diésel engine ⛽ 😮 BIG HUG and thank's to share yours videos!! 😊

@tomdrew5818 2 ай бұрын

Im already seeing deealer tech complaints about overheating issues with these on the Jeep forums (Grand Cherokees etc.)

@RC.56 2 ай бұрын

I’ve never owned a truck, but snagged a 23 1500 limited night with Hemi. Plush. Love it.

@BurchellAtTheWharf 2 ай бұрын

The new 3L has me getting the eco diesel vibes, I wonder how narrow the mains and rod bearings are gonna be😅

@chrisparco9599 Ай бұрын

I have a 2013 ram 1500,R/T 395 hp 6 spd 4.10 gears & 22in wheels All factory, maintenance is key & I use all synthetic in everything . I am an avid hemi person ever since they came out even before With the max-wedge ,I think it will Hurt the brand going total 6cyl They will definitely loose customer base

@joecygon2287 2 ай бұрын

It'll be just Like the Eco 6 Diesel. A big.🎉

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Ecodiesel was a bit of a stain indeed.

@quicksilverb1 2 ай бұрын

i had the new tundra 3.5 and blew it after 13k miles. Bought a ram and never looked back. the 5.7 is legendary, the transmission is definitely the weak link of the truck though

@benderman55 2 ай бұрын

The ZF8HP70 is one of the best transmissions every built?

@quicksilverb1 2 ай бұрын

@benderman55 I haven't had that experience with it. I have 10k miles on my 1500 and the upshifts and downshifts are rough I'm guessing due to synchros which would get worse over time I'm assuming

@benderman55 2 ай бұрын

@@quicksilverb1 Not sure what your talking about, there are no synchrows as you would say inside this transmission, and if there are only 10k miles on it, why would you not take it in for warranty. This is the only good transmission that dodge has ever had, because it was designed and built by ZF

@alainaguilar9938 2 ай бұрын

5.7 is a joke. Legendarily a cam and lifter muncher. More like Nopar

@quicksilverb1 2 ай бұрын

@@benderman55 All automatics have synchro mechanics

@rmkscrambler 2 ай бұрын

TFL. Ask a Ram engineer about the lower tow ratings. He said it was due to heat dissipation.

@802Garage 2 ай бұрын

Yeah my guess would be too much torque generation at low RPM from high load spooling the turbos like crazy means lots of risk of pinging and trying to bend rods.

@rmkscrambler 2 ай бұрын

@802Garage the way he explained it was more to do with duty cycle. Basically if you pulled the same load as the hemi and the driver controlled himself at the same speeds as the hemi. There wouldn't be an issue. But because the 3.0L will pull harder if the driver pushed it harder with the heavier loads. He would see operating Temps that while "safe" would make most drivers uncomfortable. So they backed off the tow rating for a more "controlled user experience". I'm guessing it has alot to due with a greater safety margin on a new engine until they have more data to ramp the tow ratings up in the future.

@802Garage 2 ай бұрын

@@rmkscrambler Right makes sense. I would just think the highest risk would be when you're trying to get moving with the heavier load vs when there's momentum. At the same time, sudden and prolonged acceleration or towing up long hills for example could cause similar problems. Makes sense.

@brandon9715 2 ай бұрын

Everyone wanting V8s that had actual reliability, remember that when you vote this November.

@CJColvin 2 ай бұрын

Exactly mate, Trump 2024!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@matthewdievendorf9609 Ай бұрын

Shut up with you politics. I'm voting for Biden and I still will keep my ram with the 5.7 and will still purchase the new ram 1500 with the inline 6 cylinder.

@robweaver1923 Ай бұрын

@@matthewdievendorf9609 Perfect liberal response, "Shut up".

@GarageWorx 2 ай бұрын

Only time will tell if the Hurricane will be good. I say bring back the 4.0 inline 6.

@garyvanpatten3947 2 ай бұрын

Will keep building it .

@nhbountyhunter 2 ай бұрын

My 07 ram 2500 has 379k. OG drivetrain. It tows everyday. It a single vehicle short haul (within 300 miles 1 way) transporter. Even if a drivetrain component goes bad I will just replace it versus buying a new truck these days. Does have a little rust forming on the bed but I have a friend that's a body guy and we are currently completely stripping it down to bare metal and repainting it and fixing all the rest.

@jimdevries9479 7 күн бұрын

I own a ford with the 300 6 and have been wanting a a turbo inline for years! Ram is the first if you don’t count BMW in their suv ‘s I’ll try one.

@MrMattMohler 13 күн бұрын

I'm glad I got my first hemi in 2020, I got lucky. 🙌

@kjfishman547 2 ай бұрын

Very informative video. How many people tow over 11k pounds with a 1/2 ton truck? If I had the need to tow that much weight I would have a 3/4 ton truck. All the new trucks have exceeded what I would be willing to pay so my old 2010 4.7L Dakota won't be replaced anytime soon.

@jw8578 2 ай бұрын

Interesting point you make, more HP and less towing capacity.

@jacob.calloway6833 2 ай бұрын

I love that you mentioned why I6 engines are better torque monsters. I believe with our technology combined with an old simple work horse engine design, the world can absolutely benefit. I6 for the win!

@kuhndog-1196 2 ай бұрын

My biggest thing is mpg. The 1 or 2 gain isn't worth the eventually breakage. I mean keep it simple stupid. Over complicated systems are always bound to have more issues than a pushrod v8. I'm really disappointed and saddened by dodge killing the v8. The 6.4 is on borrowed time now. They say there is a 6.7 gas cummins coming but I'm not too sure it's going to be that much better in terms of fuel economy. Long live the v8 and bring back the manual trans.

@wakeboarder9180 2 ай бұрын

Great video, it just confirms that my next new truck will be a V8 GM or Ford

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

I like the 5L from Ford.

@JohnSmith-ev1sm 2 ай бұрын

My guess is cooling related. You can't put that kind of power out with high compression and turbos and keep it cool enough while towing. The 5.7 survived in the 2500's for years, it's a beast. Try that with these turbos, they are basically glorified car engines wound up to level 11. Not good.

@michaelschneider- 2 ай бұрын

From the ST helm.... Mr. Scott, I need more cooling ..... or the other way around .... Had better have a Top Shelf ZF gearbox behind it. ....

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Agreed, too much temp and cylinder pressures for extended time is going to make something go boom. but looking at ford they somehow have made it work with the ecoboost.

@ALMX5DP 2 ай бұрын

Modern half tons are basically family cars. These will do fine for the average use case which is mostly daily driving with a bit of towing thrown in.

@nordlandak6853 2 ай бұрын

I noticed the e torque system is gone in the SST. Seems strange after all the effort to develop the 48v system.

@ALMX5DP 2 ай бұрын

I dont think there was really that much effort put into that system.

@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын

That was a gimmick to begin with, it basically helped out their ridiculous stop/start system

@jamesmcintire3800 2 ай бұрын

As much as I love the 5.7 Hemi I am somewhat optimistic about Dodge’s future. As mentioned this Hurricane straight 6 should be very reliable as inline 6’s usually do have an advantage in reliability and how easily they produce torque. As mentioned an inline 6 is a superior design than a V8 in most applications. I am however skeptical about turbocharged engines from any automaker.

@michaelschneider- 2 ай бұрын

Long live the inline 6cyl... With a couple of turbochargers? .. What's not to like! .. As much bravado as the Hemi's deservedly gets,,,, it ain't making EPA requirements. .. The manufacturer is paying the EPA through the nose for each V8 sold. .. "Between a rock and a hard place" .. Enter.. the inline 6cly TT. .. Exhaust note? .. Have a listen to a late 1990s MB inline 3.6 6cly; C-Class 3.6 AMG... its exhaust note is F-King glorious. .. P.S., Are we seeing a Turbo trend with the manufacturers? .. Sure' nuff..

@user-ju1qx9dc3w 2 ай бұрын

There’s already lots of videos out there of the sound. It’s not an AMG … it sounds like a Tacoma

@Kanakid 2 ай бұрын

I love the Hemi! Very little gain going to the turbo six. I have the Hemi Etorque. Love it!

@user-ot5mr8wq5l 2 ай бұрын

Same, I have a 22' Limited with the 5.7 etorque. Love it so far and have 0 issues with it.

@michaelpopp6340 2 ай бұрын

Rams hemi sounded great, but had a crappy powerband (needed to be revved hard to get any real performance). Hurricane will likely be half the rpm towing a load up a grade like the 3.5 ecoboost. Hurricane should be great as long as it's well engineered and has quality components. Low payload and towing numbers tell me the cheap components were likely used in the new hurricane. Fuel mileage should also improve significantly. I struggled with my 2014 cc 4x4 3.92 hemi to ever break 20 highway even though the trucks lie o meter would tell me 22 or 23.

@fredgarvin7033 2 ай бұрын

I^ are notorious for head gasket leaks and exhaust leaks unless they split the out in two. In saying that some of my favorite engines are strait 6's in the past but they were never as reliable for work in my experience as far as needing repairs per mile

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Cat used to split them in 3 lol but all the modern big diesels use a single head.

@danielbonner8309 2 ай бұрын

I saw a video where this engine did not have a dipstick. This was in a jeep but that be very disappointing.

@Devlins10 2 ай бұрын

My 2015 ram sport 1500 5.7 is paid for at 140k and im gonna drive it until she blows lol

@24cupsandcounting 2 ай бұрын

I drive a Hemi as a work truck and tbh it isn't that great, lots of roar but not really quick and it isn't very easy on gas. I have driven all of the half-ton trucks and the Hemi is by far the worst gas guzzler I have ever driven. 19 litres per 100 kms.

@j.m.1259 2 ай бұрын

Did a lot of comparison between the 5.7 and the 3.6 prior to purchasing my truck in January. Ended up with a tradesman with the Warlock package and the 3.6. Perfect truck for my application. Hellcat challenger in m6t incoming. Save the manuals and v8s

@jasonnourry9612 2 ай бұрын

What do you think of having a aluminum engine block? Instead of a graphite iron block like in a diesel.

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

lighter first of all, but for a forced induction engine in a pick up truck meant for "work" you would like to see an iron block something like what ford did with the 2.7L ecoboost. granted the 3.5L ecoboost which has been around for years seems to run just fine with aluminum block.

@jamesgeorge4874 Ай бұрын

Glad I don't work at CDJR dealer. I did when the Pentastar launched. Cylinder heads for days.

@toddcoon6734 Ай бұрын

I suspect Stellantis de-rated the tow ratings on the 3.0 to avoid paying warranty claims especially on a first year model. I also suspect for 2026 they will roll out "enhanced" tow ratings equivalent to or better than the 5.7 HEMI. Only time will tell on the actual reliability of this new engine, although the design concept appears sound.

@spxram4793 2 ай бұрын

With an inline 6, RAM chose to take over a typical BMW engine configuration. I am convinced they could have done better with another typical BMW approach: SInce more than 10 years, BMW purchases the ZF HP 8speed transmission with a built- in mild hybrid configuration (integrated into the transmission case) . Similar to the Toyota mild hybrids, the (rather small) battery charges when braking, and boosts during acceleration. This results in 10-15% better mileage with the same engine, so they could've kept the V8. The configuration also enables a simple auto start/stop and replaces the separate starter and generator electric devices, and eliminates the need for the large drivebelt for the separate starter and generator. RAM should have been doing this actually since the start of the Gen5! The RAM "solution" for the mild hybrid is a pile of rubbish, adding ANOTHER drivebelt and ANOTHER electric device.

@timothykeith1367 2 ай бұрын

Inline sixes have smooth torque because there is always a power stroke with six separate crankpins

@matthewmiller2268 2 ай бұрын

What if they installed the Speed Of Air dimpled/thermal coated pistons? I believe that would be the greatest investment to keep the Hemi engine around. A torque cam would help too and getting rid of the displacement on demand junk which has been an intense bone of contention with these engines. I'm putting more efficient injectors in as well for greater fuel atomization which leads to ultra vaporized air/fuel mix which lowers emissions and increases output/fuel economy.

@Devlins10 2 ай бұрын

Good point.

@bobw7305 2 күн бұрын

All your hemis gonna be valuable take care of em.

@sw5334 2 ай бұрын

Are we going to see more videos of your power wagon?

@chadmiller6487 2 ай бұрын

Any idea if they'll replace the 6.4 in the HD?

@shredfactorgaming Ай бұрын

Were you driving in Fredericton NB?? If not that bridge looks like Westmoreland Bridge.

@FastEdE1968 Ай бұрын

@thegettyadventures - Which full size pick up (1/2 ton) would you recommend for 2024 w/engine? (exclude Toyota) I appreciate your advice, cool chanel!!

@darksmith7318 2 ай бұрын

it is sad to see ram is getting rid of 5.7. My 17 ram 5.7 is almost at 80 thousand miles and works perfectly fine. I guess next time I get new truck with hemi in it, I will have to start with 2500 and get a 6.4 instead

@Bradimus1 23 күн бұрын

I think the HO is only a toy that could technically be used for work. The payload is low because it's only in those top trims loaded with electronics and extra leather and such. RAM sticks to a softer suspension and just assumes it's ride quality will sell over a payload number most owners are probably ignoring on a halfton.

@TechKnightOne 2 ай бұрын

Chrysler is pretty much saying they don't have much faith in the engineering they've done. Just dumb/lower down all the weight ratings instead of making something worth a dang for an engine. Prime example of this is when they did all the same marketing for the eco diesel. I due for a new pickup unfortunately it's down to two companies Ford and Toyota.

@TheGettyAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Well I'm a pretty big fan of the 5L from ford but Toyota does stand behind their product so I think either one will serve you well. and exactly the eco diesel was such a disaster but hopefully they learned and put out a good engine. time will tell.

@michaelschneider- 2 ай бұрын

She-it, Stellantis fired 3/4 of its N. American engineering staff recently ...

@TechKnightOne 2 ай бұрын

@TheGettyAdventures I've watched all your videos, even the older ones before I found your channel. So there way a nice back log of vides to watch. Keep up the good work. Thanks

@TechKnightOne 2 ай бұрын

@michaelschneider- doesn't surprise me, nothing really done in the USA or Canada anymore. It's very sad all the work is overseas and with ai and robots becoming better and better time will tell what work is left.

@michaelschneider- 2 ай бұрын

@@TechKnightOne .. Copy that..

@stingcool9455 2 ай бұрын

I'd like to give the inline 6 a shot, but not at $80,000. Maybe in 10-15 years i can get a used one for under 10k in today's numbers.

@marshallforeman2051 2 ай бұрын

It will never last 10 years, not suppose to last 10 years , it’s all disposable now, Iam still trying to figure out how that’s good for the environment

@blackcoffee730 2 ай бұрын

@marshallforeman2051 definitely not going to last 10 years. Everything is designed to fall apart so you buy more. Government doesn't care about the environment. It's financially beneficial for them to push the green agenda but none of their agenda benefits the environment.

@oversoul3482 6 күн бұрын

The EPA wants us all to walk or stay home. Even then it won’t be enough.

@daytona3927 2 ай бұрын

Ram should make a low buck hot rod version, a regular cab with the H/O Hurricane, that would be cool.

@steinjosh1 2 ай бұрын

Do you know if you can use a snowplow with the Hurricane engine? I’ve heard maybe not because of the air induction needs of the turbos.

@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын

Then again most folks don’t snowplow with 1/2 ton trucks, always going for the 3/4 ton

@steinjosh1 Ай бұрын

@@pathunter7003 lots of people do here. They make good v plows now that are made for 1500 trucks.

@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын

@@steinjosh1 you may want to check if the warranty is voided when using a plow on a 1/2 ton. The transmission makes a lot of heat when plowing, they would require a “snowplow pkg” on a 3/4 ton yrs ago and it included heavier frt end springs and a large trans cooler among other bits

@0159ralph 2 ай бұрын

I like my 2019 5th gen Laramie with a Hemi. On Earth day I plan to increase my carbon foot print, by four wheeling with nature. Also I loved the past Cars, music movies and life today sucks. Also my truck is the greatest one on the road. I brought it used in 2019 for 42K and the reason why ts the greatest its paid off. Im not a I fool paying 60 to 70 K for any truck....

@xXSnikrzXx 2 ай бұрын

Do you have a 2024 F150 power boost review?

@DynoSauR4Truth 2 ай бұрын

Toyota had a lot of issues with their first year of twin turbo V6 and all of the Ecoboost V6’s in the Fords are having oil leaks and breaking exhaust studs.

@Infernostar18 Ай бұрын

I love i6 engines. Honestly, its a good step.

@paulfindude8743 2 ай бұрын

I’ve read that the new hurricane will also have MDS. I don’t know why the heck it would. What do you think about that?

@MetalPhoenix79 2 ай бұрын

Is there any less of a concern with the engine since it has been in the Grand Wagoneer since 23? I realize that isn't the longest time and probably not a lot of towing but I haven't heard anything bad about the engine as far as reliability goes, yet.

@race8427 2 ай бұрын

This tiny 6 has the Hemis reputation (performance, reliability, service life) to at least equal, no small feat for sure. I’m thinking of some other newer engines including diesels that have less than stellar reputations/service life. The Hemi succeeded while the Pentistar has failed to earn Chrysler a halo status powerplant. A corporations reputation is resting on this lil 6, will it have the Hemi performance diesel ruggedness and longevity to succeed?

@PointWithin 2 ай бұрын

Thank goodness the Power Wagons will keep the Hemi for a while

@erikmireles5879 2 ай бұрын

Either way you slice it Mopar is getting cooked in truck performance by other makes. Haven't updated the 6.4 bge and now it's the smallest/weakest motor, bye 5.7 and the 3.6 in gladiators has the power same numbers since debut 2013. If all these engines were straight up bullet proof that would be one thing but fca/stellantis or whatever has neutered Mopar.

@ottovonbismarck7094 2 ай бұрын

I wish they did both like ford, and hey they may end up doing so by popular demand, variety is the flavor of life after all

@frederickdouglass7517 2 ай бұрын

Personally, I'm looking forward to it. As someone who owned three RAMs(2015,2017,2020) all with the HEMI I thought it was a pretty powerful engine until I drove an F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost and man it had some serious power! I currently have an F150 with the 5.0 Coyote and while it is definitely more powerful than the Hemi it is no match for the Ecoboost. My question is, how much more does the RAM weigh than a similarly equipped F!50 and will the performance be roughly on par with the Ecoboost. I would truly love to come back to the smooth riding RAM but it was going to take more power to do it and this could be it.