While I fully understand that 252 is the most efficient base set up, I think the reason why a lot people prefer 243 including myself is because it's just so soulless to not have all your buildings maxed out.

009 still more powerful

I use 3 3 3 because i LOVE symetry

It's funny how the Base which is supposedly still in "beta" is this deep in math and options. Wonder if they'll ever decide to expand it.

So my idea of using 009 to cause a nuclear fission in the base to get it out of Beta was just my schizophrenia kicking in? Man...

Hello PeterYR, and welcome back to the comment section. I really appreciate your base design videos, and when I started play Arknights again, built a 2-5-2 ASAP, having had a good experience running a max right side 252 on my first account after finally understanding its benefits thanks to your videos. I've even lucked out and gotten Fiametta and Proviso on this new account, so I can essentially have my left side maxed. Unfortunately I started again after Dossoles re-run, so I'll have to wait for Record Restoration for Tequila scamming.

522 supremacy

since i started, i’ve made a 2-4-3 base without really thinking, and i cant really be bothered to change it (i would rather have everything be level 3 and not have to think than maximize production)

I use 243 because I'm a vet and it's hell on my knees to set up 252. Also, not having maxed out rooms bothers me something fierce.

I was expecting to see 009 here to get meme'd my expectations were met and I am happy

I use the 11 slot because i thought maxing everything was the goal

Would really appreciate a video about orundum farming/base setups as I know nothing about them and you hinted at some misconceptions around the topic.

Really hope you'll make that video about orundum farming soon. While it was taken as gospel to never do it when the game first launched, 3 years in and I have excesses of every resource since I don't care to raise every operator to the maximum

I maxed my right side when I started, but now run a 252 14, all my dorms are level 1, but I have 4 and that's plenty, I have 5/8 on gold production and the other 6/9 on XP, with Provisio hacks to get maximum trades, in current build you don't need to keep an op in to get trade mods, only START with them. So one trading post is level 2 with Proviso Shamare/Vigil/Cat etc. to run consistent 4/5 trades, and then I spoof the 1 slot base with drones/Proviso so the next trade will be 4, because it's level 1 it will always be the fastest cycle 48 drone 2.5 hour trade, making it a good way to turn drones/gold into LMB. I can't say how well it stacks vs. hardcore efficiency like Tequilas actual bonus LMB, but it's convenient, consistent, and gives me a good split of LMB EXP.

PLEASE orundum farm video. Ive been thinking about it for a while but i cant bring myself to strategize it on my own.

I played for more than a week now and use the 252 setup from your years old video. After watching this i reconsidering to switch to 342 for orundum farming, i need that extra 3 pulls per week. But anyway I'm looking forward for the in-depth video!

I remember at one point 243 could theoretically match/beat max-right 252 with certain complex base setups (Dusk and Rosmontis combos I think?) Is that still true? Or are all the recent CN base skills boring? Also it's absolutely crazy you can literally lay out all the math and reasoning why 243 isn't as good as 252 and people still fighting in the comments. Why are people so desperate to believe in 243

333 : 243 :: 342 : 252 All your arguments for occasionally switching back and forth between 252 and 342 also apply to switching between 243 and 333. The only difference is that a level 3 facility costs 190 drones instead of only 70 for a level 2. But with good drone production, that's really not all that much.

"You'll have ta pry my 243 Setup from mah COLD, DEAD HANDS!!" ~ _Me, a Day One Doktah, shaking my fist at a cloud_

but.. but the 009 one is so powerful

I run 3-3-3 and switch one factory to exp when I have a few hundreds gold bars stockpiled. They usually last for a while. The (likely copium) advantages are : - better repartition of operators (I assume 252 sometimes runs out of good factory operators) - some base skills synergize with trading posts and power plants (the purestream/weedy/greyyalt gang, mainly, swire/amiya too, I guess) - every room maxed out, ueheheh I would be curious to see the report numbers for 252, mine are currently 16k exp, 54k worth of gold bar, and 64500 LMD (although they probably vary a bit).

Be me, a new player, who just upgraded the reception/hr rooms to then watch this video 5 min afterwards :(

I use max right 2-5-2 and just by using Chong Yue-Ling-Dusk-Amiya-Kaltsit on Control Center, Mulberry Office, Mr. Nothing on TP plus full dorm, Nian elsewhere beside dorm, it give you : 82% TP efficiency (broken if Mr. Nothing pair with Proviso on lvl 2 TP) -0.50 morale per hour on Lvl 2 facility (mean full 48 hours shift before morale run out, though Op on CC gonna drain morale faster, so nope) Optional : Jie Yun is decent with 30% production on factory, maybe the reason is HG gonna introduce more Wordly Plight OP in future so maybe Jieyun will be more relevant. That's from me. Thanks as always for PeterYR to always make base guide video

Still running a 2-4-3 very stubbornly, I'm willing to change it but it feels like a lot to do. Would love to see a vid on converting from 2-4-3 to 2-5-2 with some suggestions for operator placements and such.

it's all good and efficient but I want my ops to have a chill dorm so I make sure to max those out

really interested in the orundum base setup. hope it comes soon.

I went two weeks with 252 and while I did gain more lmd/exp it was a pain in the ass to swap operators. I don’t know what I was doing wrong but it was far more of a hassle than 243. I’ll stick with what I’m comfortable with.

So I huff copium and have a 243 set up and my numbers for the last three days are 4800 lmd with 3400 exp, 5700 lmd with 3200 exp, and 5100 lmd with 3200 exp. I use drones on the tp unless I need a couple extra gold bars. It appears what ever I’m doing with my ops I have better output of lmd even against the 252 set up.

I tried to use 252 setup, but returned to 243 because of higher capacity limit for items, and since i dont have a consistent login time(random basically) and have two accounts to manage, 243 works better for me, and login until 13-15 hours later without worrying about the production stopping due to max capacity, which the 252 cant do, needing to login every 12 hours, plus i really like getting 200 credits per day to spend

Oh boy my favorite sports, Olympic tier mental gymnastics from 243 apologists in the comments

One must imagine Phlegyas happy

I have a feeling you really like managing data

still gonna use 333

I do 153, having 4 factories produce gold and 1 factory for exp. Once I have over 1000 gold ingots, I convert to a 333 and have all factories produce exp. When I run low on gold I convert back to 153 and repeat. Essentially it’s me stocking up on ingots until I need a lot of LMD, then I stop gold production and just dump all of it into trading posts for massive stonks. All the while still producing enough exp to not have to farm exp stages.

The main reason I havent switched to 252 from 243 is because of time. Had I known about 252 when I first started then I would've been okay with it since back during Covid I didn't have much to do and logged in multiple times a day. But now that I have college I dont have time to log in. I usually log in 3 times a day at roughly 6 hour intervals, once before college, once after collage and once before going to sleep. This 6 hour intervals actually matches both my irl schedule and my in game oparator moral. Since by changing shifts every 6 hours ensures i get the maximum out put from everyone. Plus since i have an extremely well built roster for the base so i get arround 50-60k a day through the tequila+shamare+bibeak and proviso+sora+heidi combos running side by side 24 hours a day. And since i already have a well built roster that can complete 95% of all in game content, I dont really have much use for LMD or EXP. I have so much mats that i can always E2 an op on a whim. So for me, upgrading to a 252 seems unnecessary

the true meta is 009

This make sense. But I have another question. Farm Cargo Escort or Tactical Drill ?

351 poggers

I swap a factory to trade post when gold piles up.

Hello, i want to ask some questions. Do you recommend to upgrade Proviso to E2 for the base as a casual player? How long does she takes to pasy herself? For now i'm doing 252 setup, my Proviso is always paired up with Exu and sometimes with Gummy in lvl 2 TP, do you think that's worth it? BTW i have Mlynar's team (Amiya, Kal'tsit, Mlynar and other two smiley face)

In conclusion, 252 is basically god

I swapped to 342 for a week and it's a big dopamine hit to see daily 71k or higher LMD per day... but yeah, to keep up with the gold needed my EXP production has stalled hard, gonna go back to 252 tomorrow when I have the drones. If I had Proviso I could get that amount daily on a 252, I don't even care about her but having skipped her banner hurts for stonks morale.

Sadly I didn't know anything about these things before I maxed right.

In messing with this I have discovered that there's no way to unbuild/rebuild factories to get them into an order that makes sense, this makes me sad. e.g. on second floor, factory factory post gives the factories a reasonable numbering (1 2), but swapping out the last for a factory, factory factory factory gives the factories ???? numbering (2 3 1). I thought the first one you build would be 1, the next would be 2, etc. but no, the game wants to pick the most annoying numbering possible.

i lvld my right hand side so conveniently fucked over myself in regards to setting up 243

How to change the setup pleaseee??

Unconventional is 243. Also, if done right, 243 isn't that far off from 252 Max Right.

my god im so stupid, i didnt know you can have multiple trading post. imma change all factory to trading post. i have thousands of exp but broke on lmd

I use a 243 base setup with right side maxed and dorms lvl are(4,3,3,3) and left side full maxed too. Is it worth to change to 252 now?

ill just spend real money, to buy sanity, since i pretty much login all day, and i dont have the patience to farm resources through base. too long of a wait

one thing to note that i dont often see mentioned for anyone worrying about what setup to use and thinking too much about it or mad they messed up their base somehow is that unless youre trying to e2 max every single op in the game you'll pretty much have unlimited lmd and exp with pretty much any setup, assuming you regularly play and do events and stuff. i had the most basic ass 243 setup and when i was only leveling meta ops and things i actually used i had a stack of like 20 million lmd and who knows how much exp at one point, to the point where i eventually just started leveling everything i have up for the fun of it. if i kept playing like that id just continue to have infinite of both, forever. so try not to worry too much about it cause INFINITE is enough.

So I have a max right base, I like to max my things in games. I use 243 with this distribution: TP: Shamare+tequila/Proviso+Kirara (I switch Tequila and proviso every few hours while also spending my drones in that TP) Tuye + Pozyomka+ Ebenholdz for +147% in average Factories: Weedy+purestream+passenger for +102% Bubbles+Vulkan+waai fu for +104% Rozmontis+conviction+Minimalist for +152% Vermeil+Scene+Coebe for +108% Most of these combos won't work with a 2 operator factory so I wonder if 252 would be a real improvement They stay optimal most of the time thanks to Mlynar, Ling and Dust buffs Rosmo and Even from the CC, I also have both Iris and Czerny on the rooms and usually whisperain ok the office. Should I try 252 or 243 is the best for my account?

But... but... 3-3-3 symmetry 🥺👉👈

Probably coming late to ask but, Im new to the game, Ive been playing for over 2 weeks now and I have my Base at lvl 5 so I could unlock everything...I was thinking on doing 252 but then what I read about it, its that is better cause this and this operator...What if you dont have them? Is it still better? or makes it so the 243 is better? I dont think I have most of the "meta" operators for base and even if I had them some requires the E2 skill...Which as a new player is far away to get there if I want to focus on level up a squad and advance in the story... Sorry if this was explained somewhere else and thank you for the great videos!! As a new player I enjoy all this content!

Can I read about base related guides somewhere? Things like Ops base skill synergies or how to make best use of them?

I have around 1000+ gold bars. Should I deplete it until I have around 200~ish using 513/523? I feel like there's no use for me to put gold factories for the time being.

there's also the setups where you change setups across time to maximize production like no TPs for a month then a month of 5 TPs or the like. i think that can be more efficient at times because of the base skills

So, have any of the lastest operators shaken the RIIC meta?

Cool video, where can I find these spreadsheets and guides that are popping up on-screen though?

is credit shop included in the math? if not x x 3 variants may be a bit more useful. yes i know this is very small difference, but if you dont need LMD or EXP...

Is there a detailed, up-to-date guide somewhere for Orundum farm? I'm interested in getting into this because I am an insane man and want to max pot Rosmontis for my Nekoknights gameplay and so I want to squeeze every last pull I can out of the game before her spark returns next year.

153 gangs i have 20m LMD now lmao gonna switch to 153 exp production soon

But for those who only can login once per day would 243 work better or 252 with certain operators would still be better?

Does using 252 without using any drones to fasten production still viable? Its like collect manually once every 12 hours

ACK so I really have had a bad base the entire year and half I've been playing arknights. 333

My setup is 1 gold 1 originum 1 exp 3 trade post and 3 power point I have a lot of gold point and exp cause i rarely increase operators

Will 252 max right still be efficient if you log on twice a day?

I always use 153 since the start... and forget that we can change it... now I see this video, I change it to 243, because I'm F2P... I really really need more LMD, damn it!!! Thx.

How did you calculate out the base output values? They all seem suspiciously low

I use 252 setup in the first 4 month, and convert it to 243 because it requires less management & rotation for the operator, even tho the result are low from 252, but i have to admit that i need the advantage of 243 which i can dump all low morale operator in just one rotation and ready to use when the next rotation comes

Might just be me, but I’m having trouble with your About page’s Discord link.

1. How long have u researched base? 2. How will u guarantee 252 > 243 REGARDLESS of new incoming operators? I can declare Hoederer and Delphine make 243 better. And if they are unable to do that, mumu, Ines and Typhoon can do it. Hope u can debunk that 😏

My daily output with 243 is about 39k EXP and 53k LMD.

While I switched to 252 myself. I find your trust argument deceptive and misleading as it's only counting trust gains from 12 operators when in reality, all operators in the base gain trust and the base assistants explicitly gain more. 240*12(more realistically 11 since you need at least 1 OP like Ling to carry)=2880 trust. Even only counting the base assistants, your graph looks off. The head base assistant gains up to 500 trust twice a day while the floor assistants gain up to 125 a day. If max ambience to 252 ambience about halves trust gain, you'd be getting 2k trust in a 243 setup and losing 1k trust with 252. If you included base assistants, your graph would go up to 4.88k, but looking at it, it looks like you took the base 100 trust gain a day from 12 operators not in the assistant slots instead to cap out at 4.08k instead. This gets worse the more operators you have working in the base without max trust. Theoretically, with no max trust operators, you could get upwards of 6k-7k trust a day from the base while in the worst case scenario it's 2k from only the base assistants. This personally wasn't a dealbreaker for me as I had reached 200% trust with every operator and maintained it trivially before switching. However, once I made the switch, maxing out the trust of new operators as they come has been significantly slower and I now run full 11 operator+1 Ling trust farms. This is a vastly different story for newer players though and while the production gains are more worthwhile, they'll have a hell of a harder time getting their operator's trust to max.

No, 243 is THE only way to go if you have OCD. Gotta max everything. No alternatives accepted. Lol

My base is 2 - 4 - 3, and having Gold stacking 2K, almost reach 3K by now. I keep them in balance with 2Exp and 2Gold. Despite assigning best ops for trading post, increasing efficiency production for EXP side, My gold never runs out but keep increasing day by day.

Wait, at 3:41 you say they burn OP to farm LS-6 - but doesn't this make barely any sense because most facs are EXP facs anyways? Shouldn't they be farming CE-6?

Hi, I have a 2 4 3 and my avg daily output is slightly higher (~2300) than what you show there. Not trying to say that your math is wrong, just an honest question as to why might be the reason. Also, quite sad that I cant downgrade stuff like the office and the Reception. Been playing for about a year and just built a 243 because that is what ppl recommended Thanks for the video, I wished I saw something like this when I started playing

Someone makes a video about how to 252 is better: I sleep. Que buen sueñito Someone makes a video about W possible skins that will break the fandom: REAL SHIT

I just use the one layout built from the very start

If I’m not reading it wrong, doesn’t Eunectes’ E2 base skill allow for +2 power plants to be built? So you can technically have 5 Power Plants 😂 As a veteran player, I’m running a max-right 252, and only recently I’ve gotten around properly caring about staggering (as I realised I was switching ops every 6hrs). Thanks for making these vids, they really help.

243 may be inefficient but man.. it's hard for me to see my buildings not maxed out.. they look bad 😔

252 is death now,more reliable to build is 342.U cannot Upgrade chip with lvl 2 factory now

252 got baby dorm so i go 243 instead. with dorm 1 your main comp is gonna sleep for eternity and i dont like it.

yeah, 252 is incredibly amazing and amazingly incredible. But having low-level facilities will hurt everything other than exp and lmd production. Clues exchange? Gone. Recruitment rerolls? Forget about it. And those good factory/TP skills you've mentioned? They will lose morale much faster then you can recover it, so uptime will be bad. Playing on 243 for a two years and it's ok. Not greatest setup, but most comfortable. One complaint tho - in last year i've stockpiled 2,7k pure gold even with all drones going into TPs. Gonna spend them in some way...