Xbox Shuts Down Tango Gameworks & Arkane Austin | Call of Duty Xbox Game Pass Problem

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The Xbox Two Podcast is back and this week Rand & Jez will be talking about all the fallout from the sad news that Xbox has shut down 4 Bethesda studios including Tango Gameworks makers of HiFI Rush, Arkane Austion who made Redfall, Roundhouse and Alpha Dog and other things like will the new Call of Duty came to Xbox Game Pass Day 1 and much more!
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Getting ready to go live 0:00
Intro and Housekeeping 11:05
Xbox - 4 studios closure Sarah Bond Interview and other news 40:30
Stream issues 1:08:00
Return of stream (w/o issues) 1:17:05
Patreon Questions and Closing 3:23:05
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@RandalThor19 12 күн бұрын

Thanks for all the support!! Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code XB2 at MANSCAPED.com! Timestamps: Getting ready to go live 0:00 Intro and Housekeeping 11:05 Xbox - 4 studios closure Sarah Bond Interview and other news 40:30 Stream issues 1:08:00 Return of stream (w/o issues) 1:17:05 Patreon Questions and Closing 3:23:05

@Echo__plex 11 күн бұрын

I really do think this week was the final straw for a lot of people. It isn't just the closing of these studios that is so offensive, it's becoming painfully obvious that the Xbox leadership team has no strategy or vision whatsoever. They have just been throwing money at the problem for years. They know nothing about managing studios or cultivating creative talent. Phil Spencer and the rest of the team should resign. If 10 years at the helm and over $75 billion invested into new studios isn't enough to perform, I don’t think you're cut out for this job. They should all feel embarrassed and ashamed.

@chesi_7_0_79 11 күн бұрын

Facts

@pixeljauntvr7774 10 күн бұрын

True that.

@ryuhayabusa3302 9 күн бұрын

The best comment I have read about this situation. Yes Satya and money men are to blame for allowing Spencer to lead for a decade. But Spencer had 10 years, infinite money, released games on PC which is the biggest market and still couldn't grow the businesa enough. And then you look at the disappointing games list it's really embarrassing. For me he did worse than Don Mattrick. At least Don was kicked out after a year, Phil been allowed too long at the helm.

@NuclearAbyss 11 күн бұрын

Jez is coping hard with this. I dont blame him for trying to stay positive, but people are slowly just walking away. In an era where xbox is chasing higher active users, but keeps bleeding fans this won't end good for xbox. I could get to the point were they are forced to leave the industry as a console maker and most people wouldn't even care.

@jez.c 10 күн бұрын

Wasn't really coping? Just discussing possibilties. Whatever happens I'm along for the ride, I care about games more than platforms ultimately.

@NuclearAbyss 10 күн бұрын

@@jez.c Its all good, have been a big fan since the start of the podcast. Granted everyone copes with the reality of the gaming industry. All we can do is buy games that we like and hope studios dont get destroyed by big corporations.

@mbe2916 9 күн бұрын

This episode that was allot clarity and honesty, if there was coping it wasn't in this podcast. It takes allot to even have this episode, many would not he this brave.

@Echo__plex 9 күн бұрын

@jez.c Jez, I think the coping to me anyway is your consistent protection of Phil. It's all deflected to Satya and the big bad upper management of MS. Like at what point will Phil need to take responsibility for these failures? I think a lot of the Xbox community is just tired of the excuses.

@mbe2916 9 күн бұрын

@Echo__plex after this brutally honest podcast there is no need to be so mean. Be nice to the dude, xbox is making allot changes going forward and that is really tough for anyone rooting for xbox for 20 years. Be nice

@natpagler4263 10 күн бұрын

I roll my eyes every time Jez brings up capitalism. I wont deny capitalism has its shortcomings, but Xbox has clearly been poorly managed. And in a capitalistic system, being poorly managed is one of the most dangerous situations a company can be in. I blame primarily Xbox management, not capitalism, for the closure of Tango games.

@jez.c 10 күн бұрын

You really struggle with sarcasm, don't you? Or are you so sensitive that even jokes about a world view can trigger you into sarcasm blindness? 🤔 Xbox has struggled to manage things but it's greed that has Satya telling departments to cut corners.

@natpagler4263 10 күн бұрын

@jez.c You think Xbox can keep asking and using Microsoft as an "unlimited money glitch" but thats not how the world works Jez. I know you know this. The beaurocracy between Xbox management and upper Microsoft execs is on full display. The good will is gone.

@Amearie 11 күн бұрын

People hate Microsoft for being intrusive but imagine investing billions of dollars and a decade into a part of your business and there is 0 turn around what’s so ever. These executives continue to fail and then make the devs suffer. Phil Spencer needs to go, lying out his ass for a decade now. Matt booty needs to go, cant manage studios at all. Aaron Greenberg needs to go, terrible marketing no one cares about the games or Xbox. Sarah bond needs to go, why are you talking about mobile when you console is dying and your fans are asking so much questions. It’s disgusting, get new leadership.

@Perplexum 11 күн бұрын

If the higher ups at Microsoft are calling the shots now, what does it matter? The die is cast.

@pixeljauntvr7774 10 күн бұрын

You get rid of Phil Spencer then they'll replace him with some other corporate suit.

@Amearie 9 күн бұрын

@@pixeljauntvr7774 hopefully one that’ll get stuff done instead of lying and playing kumbaya.

@ryuhayabusa3302 9 күн бұрын

You're right but WHO HIRED PHIL? EXACTLY. Xbox needs a GAMING LEADER. Phil Spencer is a Microsoft guy. Sarah Bond is a TMobile business woman, Matt Booty is a audio guy. Xbox needs a Peter Moore type of leader. Moore had expertise at leading Sega for a while. He had experience. Under his leadership they created some of the best games ever. Under Phil it's been a dead 10 years.

@RandomGuyNB 12 күн бұрын

Timestamps Getting ready to go live 0:00 Intro and Housekeeping 11:05 Xbox - 4 studios closure Sarah Bond Interview and other news 40:30 Stream issues 1:08:00 Return of stream (w/o issues) 1:17:05 Patreon Questions and Closing 3:23:05

@xxFacade 11 күн бұрын

I actively lose IQ points when I hear people cry about capitalism on a gaming podcast

@ryuhayabusa3302 9 күн бұрын

Especially when you having gaming companies like Nintendo who do actually value their developers.

@hiruu 8 күн бұрын

@@ryuhayabusa3302 You're kidding...right!??! Nintendo has history of major labor issues, both in the US and in Japan...far more than Sony and Microsoft.

@ryuhayabusa3302 8 күн бұрын

@@hiruu When was the last developer Nintendo shut down? Ill wait. And they actually raise their salaries as well matching their growth.

@L11ghtman 11 күн бұрын

It seems pretty clear to me that Xbox is moving into third party territory and acting more like a publisher than a console maker. That explains the tango closure to me.

@chesi_7_0_79 11 күн бұрын

I don't see a Next gen console in the future with all of this happening.

@soullessliving9075 11 күн бұрын

Tango's games would have done great as 3th party. Imagine how much Hi-Fi Rush would have sold on the Switch. There is 0 reason for Tango closure.

@StraightcheD 11 күн бұрын

Recent weeks have made it understandable why Microsoft doesn't report Xbox division's operating profit and margins.

@paulbrown1409 11 күн бұрын

Microsoft need to make it crystal clear whether Game Pass subscriptions or sales determine whether a studio stays open for the sake of those people working at the studios.

@sakuragi1062 11 күн бұрын

Its definitely not sales because Gamepass service killed the idea of buying and owning games natively its definitely Gamepass subscription because they keep buying publishers and developers for billions and keep paying 3rd party games to go on gamepass but the gamepass subscribers wont growing

@paulbrown1409 11 күн бұрын

@@sakuragi1062 if it’s not sales then it must be engagement within game pass but it can’t be that because Aaron Greenberg said Hi-Fi Rush met all of their key parameters (or words to that effect) so it must be incredibly unsettling and confusing for their developers to know what will count as success.

@GoldChainGaming-ou9bq 11 күн бұрын

Phil’s getting high, no reasoning with him

@nodstarted 11 күн бұрын

Thank God, my priorities in life shifted some time ago and I am no longer as invested in gaming and Xbox as I used to. Otherwise this would be a super tough year for me

@chosenreaper6224 11 күн бұрын

Everyone talking about Phil and Sarah. What about Matt Booty? How have you not released a GOTY contender in over 10 years and still have a job. We want games and he has not delivered.

@Amearie 11 күн бұрын

All of them suck at their job.

@brnsde539 11 күн бұрын

It’s kinda of interesting and idk if ppl would agree or not but maybe Microsoft should look at there leadership like sport coaches look at some players. Like ppl want to hold on to Phil because he saved Xbox but that was YEARS ago maybe we need to look at them like “what have you done for me lately”. There are players in sports that who have done incredible things for teams but then start to fall off and coaches drop them and replace them with younger talent. What Phil and team has done for Xbox was great FOR THE TIME but what have you done lately? Wonder if ppl agree or not

@LeoHoldenCross 11 күн бұрын

So it's like all this hard work to get Japanese games on the platform was for nothing just to see it all go away again fantastic fml smh lol

@Justin-xv3nm 11 күн бұрын

Subscribing to gamepass just for cod would not be worth it. You'll save more money just buying the game then to pay a monthly subscription.

@vistasdelpinar 10 күн бұрын

Xbox content creators have huge blame too they been over 10 years supporting Phil Spencer horrendous leadership and now Xbox it's almost dead and they were accomplices.

@RavenV2 9 күн бұрын

like this podcast?

@user-sk1xm6vg5t 11 күн бұрын

This one was difficult to watch, the mental gymnastics of Jez is outstanding.

@jez.c 10 күн бұрын

It's called discussing possibilties :) if you want a stream of negative hate and sensationalism there's plenty of other channels.

@busterspark4410 11 күн бұрын

Video games need to sell. That’s the bottom line. Gamepass subs have stagnated because the 1st party offering has been slim pickings for years and years and people are canceling. And when you release stinker after stinker (mostly) for years on end, of course growth is gonna stagnate or even recede. It takes great games to sell a platform. That’s it. If Nintendo has sold 144M Switches, do you think it’s because it’s a powerful system? No. It’s because the games are fucking awesome. Games should always come first. And I think Xbox knows this, but they’re in too deep on Gamepass to backpedal out of the vision now. Wouldn’t go well with investors if they kill Gamepass. Plenty of people will take their money and run.

@chesi_7_0_79 11 күн бұрын

Gamepass is good for 3rd party games that wants to make extra profit. But for Xbox, launching 1st 0arty games day 1 makes no sense and hurts profit margins in the long run

@malekaius 11 күн бұрын

We looked too far into how the sausage was made. Sometimes ignorance is bliss Gamers just have to seperate the conglomerate from the product and just extract the Gamepass value for as long as its valuable to them because Microsoft is not reversing this trajectory

@gorana.37 10 күн бұрын

Couldn't agree more. Knowing too much absolutely ruined my enjoyment of my time on Xbox. I've grown to loathe its management. All of them are pure, inept cringe.

@aweskr 11 күн бұрын

xbox mindshare is done, sad to be honest.

@BalanceProper 11 күн бұрын

Jez references to capitalism are laughable , he obviously has no idea what capitalism is .

@mbe2916 10 күн бұрын

Big respect having this podcast takes a lot of courage. Also very good takes even though your favorite brand going through tough times, and emotions are high. Also congratulations on the advertising deal.

@ilducex 9 күн бұрын

Jez, for the record - referring to employees as 'resources' is very very normal in large corporations - this term is used in the workplace very frequently especially in managerial / executive positions and doesn't tend to have a negative connotation

@RavenV2 9 күн бұрын

just because it's normalized doesn't mean there's no negative connotation. what's the implication and why would you never call an employee that to their face?

@campfireglassblowing2528 11 күн бұрын

There seems to be a loose plan and making decisions based on optimistic assumptions. In reality, xbox seems purely reactionary. And, like, release games for christ sake!

@vchair23 10 күн бұрын

I'm really interested in the additional reporting that comes out for the tango closure. Completely understand the accolades it received and it's uniqueness being a sticking point for the most die hard fans, but from a company structure and support perspective it seems to make the least to me. If zenimax/Bethesda was told cuts were needed, tango their one Japanese studio is in the worst position when it comes to company alignment and support it seems + with their top two ? I think leaving, it seems to mark sense to me from a zenimax/Bethesda structure perspective if that's how it's setup. I don't know if that's for sure, but based on how they've talked about their individual segments sitting under the umbrella, that's my guess.

@mbe2916 9 күн бұрын

Best episode, this could be the new format for the future.

@charleswilson-1332 7 күн бұрын

Call of Duty day and date via Xbox Game Pass just makes business sense, because it will lower the entry barrier and makes the microtransaction much more accessible. 🎮

@j0ker51000 9 күн бұрын

It'd be funny if Xbox announced some super studio they've just formed based in Japan at the June showcase

@Skorge17 11 күн бұрын

I think Obsidian and InXile are safe as they’re the only 2 aside BGS that can make a Fallout game

@tehama4321 3 күн бұрын

Jez getting bothered by Matt referring to people as resources. Meanwhile, the department that hires people, HR is called Human Resources

@eaglesfan0965 11 күн бұрын

I believe Microsoft is secretly trading small studios to nintendo and ps, but at the end microsoft will have all the big games like cod, minecraft, roblox etc...

@ryuhayabusa3302 9 күн бұрын

Rand get Gaz on next week for some humor which will be needed.

@warawana 12 күн бұрын

Oh i just got here as it ended. This should be a banger 🎉

@sifupoeticx-initiative9480 11 күн бұрын

Nail on the head!! They could have let Tango and Arkane make a Fallout spin off. They could have even started the next main line fallout.

@halilsavas4808 11 күн бұрын

Yeah let give one of the most popular RPG IP to 2 studio without Rpg experience

@albertforline9175 7 күн бұрын

I'm a little confused about the Lion Austun thing with Dishonored.. didn't Lion make Dishonored?? Them shutting down Austin really make Dishonored not a possible thing??

@MightyMork 10 күн бұрын

Arkane Austin could have made an immersive Sim streamlined Fallout spin off. Tango could have made Fallout Japan

@MonsterXero423 12 күн бұрын

45:47 If Jez were king, Windows phone wouldn't be back, it never would have been canceled in the first place.😊

@johnwhite2890 8 күн бұрын

I had no idea bing still existed

@jonyD143 12 күн бұрын

It's clear to me that Phil Spencer had no form of quality control and did not put the right people in charge of these games. Starfield is not making them anymore money, Redfall was a disaster, Halo infinite's potential got cut short and they made the biggest purchase ever with Activision and we're not even sure if the next call of duty will be good.

@drdetroit5963 11 күн бұрын

ES6 has entered the chat … I hope they don’t f**k it up

@halilsavas4808 11 күн бұрын

Aside from Halo all of the game you mentioned already were in development. Starfield would definitely worse because Todd would released that 2022. Are you scaring COD will be good ? Lol cod will be COD it was in development 4 years what did you except them to do they acquired just recently

@spectrexr1 11 күн бұрын

It seems silly to close down tango and arcane over a fallout game you know those fallout games was on sale for like 10 bucks so yeah that was the top seller but it was like 10-20 bucks so it's not like they were full price games and who's to say that the next season of fallout show will be any good what if it sucks just doesn't seem logical to codes a Japanese studio which you need a mobile studio what you need and arcane another great studio you need because you want to make another fallout game in 5 years. These studios haven't even had time to make a game under Microsoft or two games tango made a great AA game and that was it it's like Microsoft not giving any of their plans a chance to work they just doing a 180

@antoniobandaro 10 күн бұрын

Its a shame as I really enjoyed Prey and Ghostwire and also enjoyed Redfall on launch. But I can understand why they closed them business wise. Prey was a great game but not profitable and Redfall was a flop that did a lot of damage despite Xbox giving them more time and even a year later no dlc. Hi-fi and Ghostwire weren’t financially successful and Tango boss and his top staff all left the business. Overall I think the timing was a bad idea by Xbox just before the showcase and a shame they couldn’t give Arkane/Tango a last chance to redeem themselves.

@muschmouth1 11 күн бұрын

Couldn't they sell studios instead of closing? Recoup some cash instead of paying severance.

@apimb1396 9 күн бұрын

All the talent left those studios and Zenimax had to rebuild them essentially they took all the core talent and integrated them into new projects and other games in development.....people think developers are all the same but there not you need the leadership to build these great games once they leave its useless

@BeaminWillie 11 күн бұрын

I'm starting to think that Hi-Fi Rush was way more expensive to make than we could imagine.

@pixeljauntvr7774 10 күн бұрын

No. It just didn't make much money. Mostly because MS gave it away for free on Gamepass. MS doesn't want to keep paying the salaries for Devs that make games that don't make a reoccurring revenue.

@markrobinson7975 10 күн бұрын

So if Xbox are refocussing from gamepass but they're going to increase the price and potentially withhold titles from day one release, why on earth would I stay subscribed and without gamepass why would I not just buy Xbox titles on PS5?

@chargasm712 9 күн бұрын

Porting some xbox games what don't have contracts to playstation is baddest thing what xbox has done. I can understand some only multiplayer games but i don't understand nothing else. I can only understand ports if playstation gives games back to xbox. Game = game trade

@ometony 10 күн бұрын

Sucks that were back to square root again like a wrench in a bucket.

@pdraggy 10 күн бұрын

lol that was the first thing I thought, this is all Jez' fault.

@I_duo 10 күн бұрын

Mmmm……🤔…..Who to replace Phil ?…….BRING IN BOBBYYYYYY !!!! ☠️😏☠️

@albertforline9175 7 күн бұрын

Magnificently Ultimate

@-Sparagmos- 11 күн бұрын

What do you mean «the pain of capitalism»? Capitalism is the reason we’re getting any of these games at all.

@EddiXP 11 күн бұрын

He speaks out his 🍑 when it comes to politics or how economics work. The issue is America printing half of the monetary-supply thats ever existed in just 2 years.

@jackied962 11 күн бұрын

Thats not true, think of all the great games communism has given us.....ok, well it's really just Tetris but what more do you really need than Tetris?

@jboogie5216 11 күн бұрын

THANK YOU!!!!!!

@MasterofLightning 11 күн бұрын

There are pros and cons to every system. Capitalism has the most pros of any system in human history, but it's not without its cons. With that said, a bunch of highly qualified and skilled programmers getting laid off isn't some horrific tragedy. They will be okay.

@professorsolo6484 11 күн бұрын

Capitalism is great in its infancy and mid stage but its not great at all when we enter the late stage capitalism. Middle class is getting wiped out, inflation is at an all time high in our life time and there’s no signs of the wealth disparity getting better.

@timothyweakly2496 10 күн бұрын

Every company has been doing lay offs unfortunately.

@Georgecostanza21 9 күн бұрын

as an xbox fan, jez how can you think microsoft should buy valve? xbox cant handle 343 which isnt good for halo, tango arcane austin...the issue is xbox leadership

@eugeniabergeron8987 10 күн бұрын

That would be cool if still Spencer was the CEO of Xbox.But that's not going to happen

@apimb1396 9 күн бұрын

Game Pass 🔥

@MonsterXero423 11 күн бұрын

2:34:34 Xbox is a dead monopoly?😂

@Ciki92 12 күн бұрын

Still no Camera, Rand? Its not like xbox 2 community is dying to see you guys on camera but its about keeping your word. Thats why people keep asking if you will get a camera.

@RandomGuyNB 12 күн бұрын

My man, it's not that serious. He'll get on camera when he's ready.

@RandalThor19 12 күн бұрын

the on camera podcast will happen but when I am comfortable with it and not a moment sooner. If that bothers people than so be it.

@Justin-rv7oy 12 күн бұрын

@@RandalThor19 damn straight, you don't owe it to anyone, if you don't want to do it, don't do it

@LymeGreen04 12 күн бұрын

why are you so obsessed with seeing what other dudes look like

@jonyD143 12 күн бұрын

@@LymeGreen04 Exactly. I've seen this before many times. The watchers beg for a face reveal and then say things like "Eww he's hideous!" Stupid stuff like that. I've been listening to his channel for 4 years, I don't need to see his face.

@SnappyDude 4 күн бұрын

Phil's just bad he took over after the 360 and its been all downhill since then. He's too cooperate and sees games as a checklist of things to succeed. They shut down these studios to makeup money on the balance sheet while buying activision. I don't see how they justify keeping him in charge when any graph of xbox sales shows it dying off since phil took over. Unless they plan on becoming the netflix of gaming and killing of their console after next gen, because if thats their goal he's setting them up great.

@serialkiller77 11 күн бұрын

When are you gonna be on camera? You promised us when you hit 100k you would. It’s not hard to get a camera Rand

@MurphyOCP-001 8 күн бұрын

Buying Activision was the ultimate monkeys paw moment for Xbox fans and it may end up being the worse thing Xbox ever did because it’s attracted the eye of Sauron. Xbox is going to have to start making serious money or risk being sold off or closed.

@Knapz_ 8 күн бұрын

I think they can just put cod on gamepass cause pc people are going to buy it on steam or battle net, the minority will use game pass. And playstation users will still buy. Xbox always has the lowest sales so the sales for xbox wouldnt matter that much in the end cause they will be making hand over fist of the other platform users...and jez is right about the micros, xbox will make the loss of their own cod sales on their system with all the micros they sell on cod

@ryanhodgson5979 10 күн бұрын

Rand you need to go work at Xbox bro

@migss9581 9 күн бұрын

a slump.....compared to ridiculous highs of pandemic time. not able to not be greedy and be happy with pre pandemic levels? microtransaction blizzard.....what they ben living on for years it feels like. look at warcraft 3. does having bethedsa and activision make microsoft 'the best'. both companies were not doing super amazing reputationally anyway.

@gamingfordaysraw 10 күн бұрын

YOOO!!!🤣

@weldonlawrence473 11 күн бұрын

Another awesome show and love the level headedness of delayed, well thought through discourse. Please don't too much chase the trend of daily and "emergency" shows. This four plus hour weekly discourse is heads and shoulders above the rest. Keep up the great work.

@david53444 10 күн бұрын

Jez I appreciate your work. But please try to educate yourself more on economy. I don't try to be arrogant. I honestly mean that. When you constantly speak about "the pain of capitalism" etc it actually worries me what kind of picture of economy you have in your heard and I worry that deep down you hope for actual socialism. It sounds like a socialist dog whistle to me, even if it's not intended by you. You know that even with all its downsides, people being free to buy the products they want and have contracts with who they want is the basis for the economic success of our society. It's a complicated discussion but a lot of issues we have no aren't because of capitalism but actually because of our money system, centralized money that can be endlessly printed and governments that shut down economies and give away money, increasing inflation etc. Please don't fall in the trap that socialism is a solution when it will only lead to poverty, suffering, deaths, hunger, less products and don't even think about games. Capitalism is the only reason we have these highly expensive but highly immersive games like Cyberpunk.

@Concavepompano3 7 күн бұрын

All of this crying everybody is doing. Honestly i with king on these topics. MICROSOFT needs to stop talking to its consumer like playstion and Nintendo.

@Tinbeef22 11 күн бұрын

DEI hire Sarah Bond

@chasejackson7248 5 күн бұрын

Can't wait to see Xbox fanboys decide to now like what they call walking simulators, when hellblade mental health simulator comes out.

@paulbrown1409 11 күн бұрын

Expecting an immediate return after buying ABK when they also say games take 4-5 years to develop is a bit optimistic

@TheCybercoco 10 күн бұрын

Rand speaking like a real armchair exec. I would much rather the leadership cut the fat and bring things down where it's manageable than the overextend themselves and end up screwing the whole thing up in the process. Making things manageable. THAT is doing their jobs. It's as I've been telling everyone. This is logistics, not financial. It makes some sense from that perspective even if it hurts a bit.

@ryuhayabusa3302 9 күн бұрын

If Phil had done a better job as the head of Xbox maybe these studios wouldn't have been cut. Ever thought of that genius? Financially Xbox is doing bad that's why they're making all these desperate moves. People like you bootlicking these corporations is what will kill off Xbox.

@skywalk3x 11 күн бұрын

This is so exhausting. Video games are a break from daily lives in entertainment form, now we’re putting everyday happenings into video games. All this fake outrage but the same people will review bomb a developers game into oblivion, sometimes to its closure. The irony is hard as, well iron.

@toetag4 11 күн бұрын

This is one of the worst xbox podcast besides Riskit 4 the biscuit podcast , jez is the worst man, xbox fans should not support these dudes

@beandipnipslip9833 12 күн бұрын

I’ll take these shutdowns to get a new fallout game sooner. I personally don’t like any of the games they have made. And I feel it’s easy for everyone to criticize a decision like this when it’s not your money that is getting spent and then you cry about capitalism when you wouldn’t have any of this shit without it. Ironic🤔

@jackied962 12 күн бұрын

Sure and that Fallout game will be Fallout 77.

@drdetroit5963 11 күн бұрын

@@jackied962NOOOOOOO!! 💀

@sagii86 11 күн бұрын

Bethesda have 2 legit franchises with elder scrolls and fallout. their tech is poor though. Creation engine need a complete revamp, adding metahumans or 3lateral as part of the character creation and virtualized micropolygon geometry as a start. Studio that big shouldn't be far behind the top tier competition out there.

@halilsavas4808 11 күн бұрын

@@jackied962yeah bro it totally makes sense to make 2 mmo from the same game

@malekaius 11 күн бұрын

What OP is actually saying is he will take these shutdowns for the “idea” that he will get a rumor game. A very real negative action over a fabricated dream scenario.