gee was she the photographer? i missed that part 🙄

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And before she sits down a tube or two of superglue has to be applied to her bum 😆

And shut up!

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Not sure 😂

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@@irenadiab3173 Surely you can't be serious? But I bet she's going to spend the entire wedding telling everyone she's the wedding photographer...and don't anyone forget it!!

I think she said she was but she was very evasive

and that dig at her budget too. $2000 IS a lot of money, and if kleinfeld's doesn't sell a ballgown for that price then maybe it's KLEINFELD'S that is not for her.

Absolutely right.

I was thinking the same thing. Lots of these shows have that budget, so why was this lady made out to be almost destitute for it? And Randy is normally all about getting the bride what she wants, but he was dead set against it from the get go, and not one dress was a ballgown type. So weird.

The price point is difficult...ball gown needs extra fabric and extra work, sooo they just have a lil opstions in that price point

This is a much older episode - and there are way more ballgowns out today that are afforadable, but like 10 years ago - ball gowns at $2000 were hard to find, and hit that "PRINCESS BALLGOWN" look that people usually are looking for. They can do it today, but back when this was shot - no shot, or at least very little of one. Ballgowns are always more pricier.

It was clear from the start that the sister was only trying to convey to Randy the wishes of the bride, who was her sister. He clearly said he disagreed, so the sister used her job in hopes of being heard, to no avail.

Exactly!! I totally agree with you!!

As a former wedding photographer I completely agree.

The sister just tried to confirm the bride’s wishes.

This sister was anoying me too. Let the pro s do their job and it s the BRIDES choise!

This video is probably at least 10 years old. I wonder if she found what she wanted.

And leave the critics at home.

He acted like a jerk in this episode very judgy and unprofessional. I guess it was because he didn’t have the experience at that time. Just look how young he looks there.

@@mariesmith1616 Omgosh, in a prior episode, he took over the consultant's bride's appointment and physically pushed the consultant who I guess he felt was standing too close to him away from him. I could not believe my eyes! RANDY, What are you doing!!!

Yeah, it's weird when a bride is super specific and clear and they doubt her and act like she's wishy washy.

So true.

100% agree

It was 100% gaslighting. What the consultants should have said is we may not have that style in your price point, but instead they thought they’d try to sway her, seeing the predicament she was in with a pushy family, to accept a similar style in order to secure the sale. It seemed they were the wish washy ones, trying to sway the bride and steer away from ball gowns. This episode was definitely hard to watch, I thought better of the Kleinfeld staff than stooping that low.

because if they sell her a big dress for a reasonable price, it makes the store look "cheap." look how people talk about david's bridal because of their $100 sale dresses. they didn't have the spine to turn away a bride who couldn't break the bank on the dress she wanted so they tortured her for several hours and insulted her to her face repeatedly.

People go for the experience at Clairfield not the price tag, which if you really look at their websites and whoever their designers are you come on it is torture when they know and go all the way up to New York. They know the prices are going to be expensive and turn right right around also to factor in alterations, it’s the blind leading the blind going up to Kleinfeld and no one, you can’t afford majority of the dresses they have the showroom and then expect a miracle and they might not have a lot on the off rack because big houses like that. They don’t keep a lot of dresses that are going to be reduced, trying to sell it, after a couple months, they’ll actually take those dresses and sell it bulk to a another bridal that offers dresses at a discount where the secondhand will actually buy in bulk so they’ll sell like 2025 dresses for a fraction of the actual worth of the dress and then they’ll mail it and then price quarterly so they can actually get rid of it and also try to make a profit so thousand dollar dress will go for like 4000 but they’ll sell it for maybe six or seven so they can try to make something because they also have overhead too

some people want to be on TV. Or just say they got it from Kleinfelds and hope they'll get a sale

I never knew you could rent dresses but that's what I'd do. I'd rent my dream dress. These dresses just sit in boxes in the attic for the rest of your life, anyway. It's the pictures that everyone will look at!

De eso se trata, que pague más, ahí está el negocio de los vestidos de novia.

A ball gown has a lot a fabric. They have ball gowns but not in her strick price point.

it takes a WHOLE LOT of materials to make ballgown.. plus this vid is old and things very pricey not like nowadays

Exactly or tell her they charge 3x what the store 2 miles away.

They said many times it was not within her price point.

Exactly this

I hate being blind drunk.

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LMAO!!!!!!

I'd be on the floor!!!

Honestly I saw some better looking gowns at davids bridal for like 800. Im pretty sure they get comped to be on this show that's why they go there lol.

Because they want to say they got their gown there

I see other day yes to the dress with just as beautiful gowns but much less on the price! Like the one with David Emanuel and GOK just to name 2! Their gowns are FABULOUS. But not so expensive as kleinfeld.

Those are usually during their blowout sales​@@PatriciaAnnPatricik

@@PatriciaAnnPatricikbut you have to remember they aren’t in NYC.

@@PatriciaAnnPatricik big giant ball gowns with lots of beading and embellishments and pickups for less than 1500 pounds? Because that’s what this bride wanted.

This episode was over 12 years ago. Just look at Randy hair color. At that time, $2k budget wasn’t big but I am sure could have found a ball gown, but Randy and Debbie just se used want style she should wear based on her age.

But she did not have the budget to get what she wanted at Kleinfeld’s.

She was failed miserably by the staff.

@@mariesmith1616 With what she wanted and her budget, it was always going to end with her not getting a dress.

They tried but just also in a big wedding dress store like that a lot of their dresses are pretty expensive. And also it depends on the designer and how they do it what they charge ect. Although I did have an idea bc ive seen it before, looking for something that was on sale or a cancellation dress maybe. But they can’t pick what’s out of budget unless the bride or the family could expand it alittle but. And since her family including her sister has so many opinions then could have added to the budget just saying-

$2000 is not much money for a ball gown, especially at Kleinfelds. Maybe she should try David’s Bridal.

they can be really judgy...i'm especially not fond of the way Randy talks about women sometimes despite enjoying his appearances on the show

Ball gowns = more fabric = more labor = more money.

Not for a ball gown lol especially if she wanted beading and embellishments and pickups.

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they really need to start turning away brides who can't drop 5 figures on a gaudy pnina. the way they treated her because they thought they could gaslight her into a sale is atrocious.

The bride said from the start she wanted a full skirt. Randy took upon himself what she should wear and they blamed their incompetence on the sister.

Please don't be encouraging alcohol poisoning.🥴🤪😜🤮🤢

Sometimes there are good employees + businesses out there who do know the best psychological strategy for their clients. A good employee truly helps the client understand their options and what is truly best for them backed by years of best practices and experience. In my industry, if I answered every passenger question the way they think they want, the passenger would never catch their flight. For the bridal industry, there is so much money paid to obtain such a level of emotion for a collection of life memories surrounding your wedding, that it is a slippery slope and inefficient for everyone's time to introduce an idea that does not truly help the bride. When you are handling clients, you must have a good read on where they are at as well. I think for this bride, her losing her job meant that the budget was a bigger priority than a full ball gown.

family dynamics can be more complicated than that. families often shoot down the first dress if it's not what they themselves envision for the bride. If they put the bride in her choice first... and she loves it... and it gets shot down by her family then it upsets the bride and she often won't want the dress anymore. it's not a good experience for the bride when she has to stand there trying to defend her preferences, and many brides either won't stand up for their dress or will cave under peer pressure especially if it's 5 to 1. so the consultants putting the bride in the family's pick first lets the family get it out of their system. they see what they want, the bride says no it's not it and then they all move on. they're then more receptive to seeing her in her own choices without shooting it down. it's a strategy to ultimately help the bride by satisfying and diffusing the family so that she is more likely to end up with the dress she really wants.

They always say that the family rejects the first dress, so they never put her in something that she might want first. I thought it was a good strategy to put her in a dress her family want so it is over and done with and the rest of the appointment is abut her. She is a grown woman if she wanted to try on a different first dress nothing is stopping her from saying so.

"She" and her husband to be...

@@donnajohnston4381 please just hush.

Agreed! Those two shows were awesome!

@@amandapanda85 I miss them so much!

YES, lol..."sit down!!" They have no manners. It's very disrespectful.

And that was her MOM!

@@rejoyce318 This poor bride. The consultants were ageist, didn't listen to her wishes and her entire entourage embarrassed themselves, helping themselves to picking dresses and completely disrespecting the bride to be. I wanted to give her a big hug.

The wedding is likely keeping her feeling better given the circumstances as it is something she is looking forward to.

Good for you, but the bride can do as pleases.

Unless shes marrying someone rich, or, one of those religious zealots w/15 kids who believes the womens place is in the kitchen, if she has no job she shouldnt be getting married at all​@mariesmith1616

My thoughts exactly.

My thoughts exactly

5:20 "Debbie found Susan the biggest ballgown she can afford..." All the info is right in this video.

Because it wasn’t in her budget.

@@thehungrygoldfish that's ridiculous, i can find ballgowns online for $400. if kleinfeld's doesn't have any ballgowns for $2000 then they should tell her upfront "our ballgowns start at $3000" or whatever. not insult her six ways from sunday and try to sell her a dress she doesn't want.

@@dietotaku I don’t trust online websites for clothes, especially wedding dresses. That’s a nightmare waiting to happen.

More material means more money. She only had $2k to spend on a dress. Not enough for a ballgown. Then there are alterations, veil, etc. $$$$$$$

no we couldn't, you trying to give someone alcohol poisoning?

@@dietotaku that's a good one.

Wife?

@@rutharchana ?? You get it

Mine $175 in 1979. It’s what comes after that’s important

She was already at the store. They pulled dresses that were in her budget, and she wanted to try them on. She got a Kleinfeld experience like she wanted when she applied to be on the show. So why are you confused?

@@catladyfromky4142 did you watch the episode? I wasn't really asking for an answer it was a rhetorical question in response to the consults that kept saying they were confused when the bride was clearly not.

mfw when $2000 for the dress alone is a "poor budget," my whole WEDDING cost $3500 💀 y'all don't know the value of a dollar

Wrong. Debbie is one of the worst consultants. She is impatient and has no good taste to select dresses and becomes easily frustrated. Randy is great but he failed on this occasion.

@@dietotakuohhh, don’t get me wrong. I lived my life with 3 cardinal rules. Nobody in my house, in my wedding or my funeral. People go, eat and drink like pigs and then they tear you down criticizing. Not on my dime. I respect who has this dreams but not me. And I’ve been happily ever after for 30+ years. Wedding budget 0.

Right! They kept commenting on her age it was sad

She had a lovely figure

@@Adriana_1991 Oh yes! Ageism! THAT was not a good look!

mine cost $125. you have to know where to look.

This family is why I would take nobody to shop with me. I know what I want and don’t care about what everyone else wants. I know what works for my body. LOL

The sister who is the photographer and thinks she’s an expert is really annoying

That 1st dress…she loved it but I don’t think it suited her.

I like dress #2 on her….

I don’t like the mermaid look on her….not at all

She was never told. They didn’t even pull one and told her how much extra she could be paying. All of the comments were on the editing.

Not at Kleinfelds, lol

@@thehungrygoldfishI was wondering about the sales room.

@@orellagillette2484 I’m assuming there were no viable options for her in her price range.

I don’t think so. Her budget in British pounds is roughly 1600. That’s low for a big ball gown, especially if the bride wants beading and embellishments and pickups. Gok might take a less expensive dress and make it into a ball gown but the alterations wouldn’t be free. The audience tends to forget that all those customizations that Gok often does are not free and the seamstresses have to be paid for their work.

@@thehungrygoldfish Could be, she would’ve been better off at a different store. I’ve seen Mori Lee dresses for around $1,500 USD. But we never got to see the exact dress she was talking about. I hope she found it.

The bride expressed clearly from the start through the end that she wanted a ball gown.