Hope the water is better then when my Dad n Gramps was there.

​@@macmclain13502:19

I'm in the Army. It's well known now that the MC has far better gear than we do. It's completely reversed from how it used to be. Your branch actually cares about something other than Emma and her two moms..

It changed a few years back, because the Corps gave up all their armor in favor of equipping infantry. The immense budget that was allocated to the upkeep of tanks, is being well used to equip infantry units, as you can see.

@@PotatoeJoe69 A lot of this gear is purchased. Obviously the weapons and Kevlar's are issued but most of the gear is purchased. Looks like these guys have heavily modified there plate carriers. I'd say its a cultural thing where chain of command is okay with dudes modifying there gear if it makes them a better fighter. My unit is the same way within reason of course

@@PotatoeJoe69 Not disagreeing with you I think the corps has done an excellent job with the restructure of the infantry

Yeah hardly recognize it anymore, painted rifles and stuff all over their kevlars! My rifle I deployed with was missing the hardware for the rails and was elec taped for months. I can say though whenever I reloaded or checked my chamber my rifle stayed pointed down range, not up at the sky.

I’d hope so with our military budget

This is the 26th MEU. So it is kinda spec ops. Similar to the ranger bats in the army

Wait till you see what SF gets now!

@@dancarter6185 a MEU is not spec ops. It’s a MEU.

@@joshuawebster0861 god son, can you read? Nobody in this damn comment section claimed MEU was spec ops

Never foxholes...fighting holes.

I guess it wasn't until the 90s it was called a fighting hole?

fighting hole!!!!!!! no fox holes in the marine corps, hard charger

Fox holes?? fighting holes, and walking fire.

The comments here lol. Yeah LOL. Marines are good at three things. Excellent hole work (with consent first mthfker)

Depends on the unit.

@@LRRPFco52 in terms of standard infantry they are almost always leagues above

I had a friend that has unfortunately fallen off the face of the earth, but he was a marine in Fallujah and joined the army because he couldn’t re-enlist in the corps at the time. The corps is more hardcore, they kind of have to be to justify their existence because they are more or less a 2nd army for America.

Army does also literally depends on the units funds lol

@@LRRPFco52 yeah those helmets, those weapons and optics. Haven’t seen any of that besides SFAB or SF. Really jealous

Not soldiers, they're called Marines

Just an fyi; we are not soldiers, we are Marines. Love, The Marines 🇺🇸

Not Soldiers, MARINES!!!

Ummm...not "soldiers." Try "Marines" Big difference.

they’re not soldiers… they’re marines lol

God have mercy on anyone who fights any of the United States infantry! Hooah 😤 🇺🇸

what's a bill drill

Trex arms definitely pushes that in training

1R1's are pointless

Exactly, 1R1's are a great drill to train and massage the mechanical skill, I've seen a few marine units use shot timers and it's a great training tool. Our ranges in the Canadian Army are ran almost identical to this, however the Marine Core is much more modern and has much better equipment and exposure to live fire ranges than we do as infantrymen in Canada. BZ to all the Marines

@@FourthExile it's a shooting drill . One usually shoots 6 rounds in an A zone @ the target in about 2 seconds. It really shows the shooter what there recoil control is like

Haha yeah dude I was with 2/7.... Never once did we use burst in my enlistment. I was a 31 though so it didn't hurt my feelings

Usually only when it was getting late and they needed to get rid of ammo

Only time I did anything on burst was in Kuwait at an Army base where the contractors running the range and teaching the class had this target that simulated a vehicle driving into your checkpoint that wouldn’t stop, so you got through UOF Continuum of flares and warning shots. They made us shoot the driver on burst “to defeat the windshield,” which was kinda dumb, but those 6 rounds where the only bursts I ever fired.

Was it just nobody really cared about burst fire or are they up your ass the whole time like babysitters not letting you mess around with all the functions the rifle is capable of?

@@IrishPennant0311 fyi the thinking behind that is 556 is pretty infamous for bouncing off windshields, so unless you are really good at shot placement bursts are the way to go, as the first might bounce but the second and third won't. I don't know how the new rounds work but I 110% would not recommend trying to cap a driver on single with green tips. You should have just asked them why lol.

I was about to ask what length barrels those were. Didn’t look like 14.5” to me.

Its on the heavier side for sure. Im currently running all of the above and my rifle comes in at just over 12 lbs. On top of that as an APL I'm highly encouraged to run my ICUGR on my rails yet I refuse.

​@Ian Nelson That just means yall getting stronger so 31s can subload to you 🤣

It better cause they replaced saws with them

“Heavy is good, heavy is reliable, if it doesn’t work you can always hit them with it” 😢Boris the bullet dodger, aka Boris the blade, aka Boris the sneaky f’in Russian - Snatch - Guy Ritchie 2000

One good thing that came out of the GWOT; better designed gear. And seeing gear being retired and replaced faster by better designs.

@@stevewilson7819 true.

Those bullseye targets look like they were shooting shotguns not carbines.

The targets look like they are using shotguns.

WHATTT

that is insane man. my condolences to your cousin

Never mind the massive class action for thousands of people who got cancer from contaminated water between 1950s-1980s

Seriously?

and the water

lol glad you got the musket, we were stuck with a flintlock with the a1. class of 77. semper fi

Hooah 😤 🇺🇸

It's looking the Marines, or maybe just this unit, is utilizing their funds right. I remember back in 08 my unit, 1st Bn 3rd special forces group, we're training in Nevada and the group commander comes out to show face and talk to the troops. One of our Team guys (Green Berets) asks the group commander why we, Special Forces, were still using PVS7 night vision while regular Army was using the latest and greatest. It took a couple years but we finally got better stuff across the board.

It feels amazing until you have to keep your rifle up in block 1 during in an urban environment for what feels like forever. Add the suppressor and bipods and your definitely going to crave that slick m4 lol

The Marine Corps is taking the normal infantry very seriously at the moment. They are trying to push the new generation of grunts to be almost Special Forces-esque. They are spending a lot of money on getting the best gear and the best training that they can get.

This is the new marine corps doctrine. Infantry is getting m27s with suppressors, bipods, and lpvo scopes. They're also getting high cut kevlars and new flaks that are like 25% lighter.

I was a pog back in 08-14 and we would do full auto/3rd burst firing at least once when we went to the range

The mix is due to an sop made by our gunner who came to the realization that the weight of the m27 slows down the speed for HE drills like the m320 and MAAWS so guys who have those weapon systems along with mgs and mortars carry m4s while standard rifleman have m27s

@@fireandiron4181 and yet they still cant keep up with the army lol

The m27 with knights suppressor, peq 15/16, and trijicon sco is heavy as fuck. Really hard to do without doing the chicken wing with the stock

They've inherited SOF weapons without changing manual of arms. The instructors aren't doing their job, either... so many of the shooters cocking their heads to the side, dipping down to get some form of cheek/chin weld. Civilians can get better training than a lot of what I see going on in this video.

Get stronger

@@silvermediastudio was kinda wondering, shouldn't switching shoulders be emphasized more? or just generally not exposing yourself too much? kind of hard to say what we do in Finland nowadays since I've been out of full-time service for 8 years now but try to go on as many voluntary exercises as i can, and it seems manual of arms changes every couple months lmao. happy that the new stocks make cheek welds possible, only like 20 years late to that. still, FREEZING WINDS 23 (or changing winds, more like) was the first time our instructors ever emphasized short-stocking when taking a corner and I definitely like the change in direction - while the old "LAPD SWAT" style of always being stacked and having 1 kneel while 2 is on top with roughly the same sector of fire, looked really cool when well executed and made sense at the time, but I do appreciate the counter-argument of "the enemy will shoot centre of mass in a CQB situation - don't put your face where your centre of mass would normally be. switch shoulders, learn to shoot from both, expose as little as you can for maximal gains, kind of like being a 10/10 on onlyfans." hope we don't start going back now that we're really starting to emphasize staying covered and showing as little skin as possible for as much gain as possible, if we go back to SWAT-style I'll have a quiet aneurysm. do you guys still stack up and go go go or is it all slicing the pie? or maybe some weird hybrid? our recon guys always sliced the pie, was MP NCO personally so focus was on overwhelming force and tempo, get in and grab/shoot the fuckers, if a couple drop at the doorway then that's just war, toss a 'nade next time. pie-slicing has been more for searching missions/pre-contact in our use, but has been making the rounds a bit. (although sadly we end up with different squad makeups every time, sometimes I end up with guys I served with and we find the right pace instantly, usually it's some randos who did MOUT once maybe perhaps in a dream and I have to try my best to slap-dash some kind of training session together just so everyone's on the same page - some people wanna use the cross-in entry method but if even the ultra moto battle rattle guys asking for it can't pull it off well enough to not leave a sizable gap between 1 and 2, then I don't think it would work all that well in general use either (note: only because we switch squad makeups constantly so you never know who you're with, which blows huge cock especially in MOUT - you rarely get any further than basics if your team isn't already stacked with more experienced/confident folks). with SWAT-style you can at least start slow, find the tempo for the fireteam, and then gradually increase speed when people get comfortable with their sectors. slow is smooth, smooth is fast. how much weight does all that rifle bling add? not much experience with optics, but do they have LPVO's? saw some ACOGs at least, then you add the suppressor, foregrip, IR pointer, do they have standard illuminators as well? looks really front-heavy so I guess that's better for recoil, considering they're walking with their backs straight in high ready... dunno. from a pure performance standpoint I saw some really confident movement, but also a bit of the opposite - then again I don't know the USMC manual of arms/standard doctrine/techniques so I might just be fucking stupid. S/O to the guy at 03:20 for actually using the doorway as cover and clearing the malfunction post-haste, nice movement. seems like a motivated guy, some of the others seem a bit down, guess it's been raining? would really like these videos to have clearer perspectives so you could tell how much people use cover etc. but that's a nit-pick, couple guys seemed to be smack dab in the middle of the door - is that a no-no for the USMC as well?

Many reserve and national guard units are stocked with A2s and only issue M4s to team leader/squad leaders. I'm a retired Army nurse and carried the M9 for nearly three decades.

Marpat and woodland are the best

I was Army from for a couple years, unfortunately Medically Discharged, but when I was at Fort Lewis as a Cook the Marines would show up to our DFAC (Dining Facility) and I would literally be stunned on how scary those guys looked. But they loved our food since we actually put in the work unlike other DFAC’s on the base. I miss it a lot.

@@guccygoose383 Can't fight long on an empty stomach. Always appreciate the cooks, medics and pay clerks!!!!!

@@leaningforward5294 The 68W’s (Combat Medic Specialist), infantry dudes from 2-1, pretty much anyone I could get the chance to meet are the best people I’ve had the pleasure of serving with. I still talk to my old NCO’s to catch up with them. There are a lot of people that left such an amazing impression on me during and after my time of service.

These are the same drills more or less that we’ve been doing.

Hell does that even mean? The 03 in me IDs all these guys as admin or motor-T on an on-base field trip. Please tell me this isn't what current grunts are looking like at the range, else you might want to reconsider your statement. You can have all the fancy equipment and 'training days' you can shake a stick at - if discipline and stress are removed from the equation, they don't mean much.

@@wordclock707 If admin and mechanics are this well equipped, that's a good sign bro. I'm a medic all I get is a stock pistol.

@@jakewilliams5744 They aren't this well equipped

@@wordclock707 he means that today’s modern marines are better than marines from World War II or the Spanish American war. It’s a simple concept and he’s factually correct everything about a modern Marine is better than a marine from any previous generation that’s the point of fielding new tech and new equipment. It’s supposed to make you a better fighting for us. I would hope that the Marines we currently have aren’t as good as the ones from World War II.

I was thinking the same thing! All that carbon and lead back into the shooters face.

They are using older knights suppressors, the newer ones the FBI and others are using are flow through style and result in less gas to the face. I'm sure the military will eventually switch to more 3d printed and flow through style cans with 3d printed tech getting better.

The marines switched to the M27 IAR which are basically HK416s.

Are you talking about from the gas blow back?

Because they are going to war in the Pacific very soon

I was in the 101 and from what I see now, you 82nd boys have the best gear in the army, obviously besides ranger batt etc....I seen a video with y'all having those small wheeled vehicles, sorry i dont know the name of them but y'all habe a nice budget.

I was in 2006-2010 USMC 2/5 0621 They got it good compared to when I was in

never seen a normal infantry unit besides bat and sf as equipt as these marines .... their range even looks more fun lmao

I came in back in 1980. And pistol qual with the 1911 was a cluster. It took for ever because of all the alibi relays. Experienced Marines used their own magazines. Commercial magazines that is! The old weapons systems are limited in capability by their old design. They lack the ability to accept accessories that make them more lethal at distance, and at night. The newer systems also have better ergonomics, and are lighter. Which means you can carry more ammo. Well aimed shots in a field environment are a myth with iron sights. Unless the enemy is wearing something that makes them really easy to see. We saw that back in 1990 when we put Marines through the combat transition course. As soon as they were looking through the rear sight the green E silhouette would blend in with the foliage down range.

I can assure you fudd, as capable as those weapons are, there’s a long list of reasons we no longer use them. Although the Army is giving rifle rounds a comeback with it’s new XM7.

The pistol qual in the Army was more fun than the rifle qual. Move and shoot

You sir, went in the late 80s. PI or SD?

@@odsttrooper3724 Interesting no M7s were to be seen here, despite the rumor that the Marines supposedly bought into the project. It's going to be a colossal flop and waste of money.

Thats because some of these guys are from one of the Recon Battallion most likely as you will notice not everyones kits and gear are the same. That being said the HK- 416/M27 with Supressor is now the standard Marine Corps wide.

lol right?

They better be getting gear now that they took their tanks and 777's away.

So is the Army Infantry dumbass. Stop being stupid

Except those heavy ass 2004 quadrails.

If you're saying "this is what makes you WANT to enlist", just don't, it should be "this is WHY I'm enlisting", we need room for the ones wanting to do it, not the ones watching one video saying "Yeah, its makes me want to" because its always a "but Idk"

@@quentinsimmons3397you’re so right. you have changed my entire perspective. Im now talking to a recruiter, Thank you.

Yeah the suppressor and LPVO are heavy at on the m27 😂

That VCOG is a big contributor..

@@Ripper13F1V VCOG weight is actually pretty comparable to any LPVO in the 21-24 oz range once you add in the 5-7oz mount that is required.

It’s great how much money the USMC has for the individual soldier now that they iced all the Tank budgets.

@@MellowFellowOfYellow I can promise other then the high cuts and the rifles. They bought all that gear with their own money

@@MellowFellowOfYellow I guess it was a good choice afterall

No they don’t.

And one of the select-fire HK M27s along with it😢

There a bitch to clean and heavy asf

HUXWRX are better than the age int KAC’s

I hate those things! See all that gas coming right into your face while you are in the middle of a fight for your life and you can’t see while simultaneously being choked out by fumes! No thanks I’ll just take a really high performance flash hider or a flow through suppressor.

There discontinued unfortunately 😩

Marines got rid to tanks. So they have more money for infantry.

The HKs being used are the standard in Marine squads now, same with the Trijicon VCOG (some are still using ACOGs) and suppressors. They are prepping for the fight against China.

It's the M27 IAR (infantry automatic rifle), and it's making it's making itself to be the new issue rifle. The M16 is now the pogs standard issue, while the 11s get both, M4 or IAR M27. They're trying to issue the suppressor and that sight. I think it's 6x I'm not sure. About 90% or more of my company has them. It's better, the rail is not attached to the gas tube, but I take an M4 cause I already have the 240 to carry. Lol

I was looking at their weapons as well it seems to be a mix of M27's I saw some basic block 1 M4 rifles and I saw some with that ergo rail on the. front. All of them had Knight's Armament for the bus they were all really decent rifles I'm wondering if this is some type of weapons team but not recon or sf

The answer is yes to both. Based on their kit they do appear to be Recon Marines but the rifle, the M27 with supressor is standard now across the Corps as it should be in the Army as well.

Nah as of 2018 all grunts are rocking the m27

I believe it. US Infantry standards say we have to do about two weeks of live fire exercises about every 4-6 months. When I was in Germany at 1st Batallion 4th Infantry Regiment( OPFOR) (the Unit that replicates bad guys for US and NATO Troops to train against) we did it every four months but we lived on a training center 100 yds from our own range. In addition we have an EST 2000 Simulator that was pretty cool to. If you go to say the 75th Ranger Regiment those guys do live fire shoot houses like 5 days a week all year round. In the US its all about prioritizing ammo budgets. The 82nd Airborne Division at Ft Bragg probably shot more than 1-4 but if you look at their smaller and more agile counterpart tge 173rd Airborne Brigade in Vicenza Italy they hardly get to shoot at all by comparison. This is because Garrison Vicenza Caserma Ederly and Damolin are NATO/ Italian posts not American like those in Germany. They are not even alowed to take their rifles out of the Armory unless they are going to the training center in Germany or going to combat down range. There fore they spend alot of time in Germany because they cant effectively train at home station.( I served in both units among others.)

I think the Marines introduced the m27 LAR in order to phase out dedicated SAW gunners and spread the firepower out among the squad. My guess is that's why they're training full-auto with the rifles.

"police that brass" I love it... are you in the military?

well they aren't shooting lead soooo...

@@EgoFiveFiveSix um then what are they shooting???

there’s no correlation. they are doing pre determined drills with pre determined round counts. they are shooting paper. it’s about speed, movement, and putting rounds on target. you don’t keep the weapon pointed down range like that after you’ve completed your drill, that’s just stupid. the target doesn’t go down because it’s a freaking paper target. there’s no reason to keep the weapon up. nothing you said has anything to do with what they are doing. you’re talking fbi while these are marines. the 70s vs now. fbi and marines train for completely different things. calm down range warrior.

and where did you get that idiotic information from? when has anybody ever holstered a weapon after shooting somebody only to realize they missed or they didn’t go down? do you understand how ridiculous you sound?

Woah keyboard ninja, you're getting a little ahead of yourself. Depending on the range and what the "INTENT" of the training, you are working on different skills and within what is allowed at the range. If you spend as much time training as grunts, you are trained and expected to adapt, so no you won't disengage because it is drilled into your head until the point of insanity . They spend at least 4 months out the year in the field and another 3-4 month doing squad level training at least in the rear. That's when they aren't cleaning weapons. They literally eat sleep live with their weapons. We aren't in the 70s anymore. Their is a lot more critical thinking training that goes into the infantry or FBI for that matter today. But I understand your point.

Mhm

@James Drakcip Exactly, train how you fight because you'll fight how your trained. Lower those sights just enough to break your tunnel vision, keep scanning. That being said, really solid drills.