Ranking All The MARAUDERS For C5 Core Garrisons!! || EVE Online
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@fontainenick 10 ай бұрын
That Kronos dying in the intro though....
@IscariottActual 10 ай бұрын
"that doesn't look like it's rep stable. Oh no it definitely isn't. Oh no. No you gotta leave. Leave. Time to leave. Oh noooo"
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
If you watch my Kronos video, you'll see why 😂
@mattstrauchon6756 7 ай бұрын
It hurt my heart to watch it go boom 😢
@TOAOMaloras 4 ай бұрын
SB activate the drifter with 2 BS still on grid does that to you^^
@danielramos2808 10 ай бұрын
For a C5 marauder Paladin > Vargur > Golem > Kronos . Nice video tho
@fkubtchtt6 10 ай бұрын
Paladin is number 1 used for WH ratting... kronos... I'd AWOX whomever I saw using that
@danielramos2808 10 ай бұрын
@@fkubtchtt6 same feeling here hahaha
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
I disagree. My experience with all four was very different so would love to hear why.
@danielramos2808 10 ай бұрын
Paladin is easier to multibox because you only need scorch and conflag . Makes easier to kill the 70km waves with scorch and since you should always use implants when ratting C5 you can make a cap and tank stable fit for drifter and site. Golem doesn't have range for 70km spawns and missile application is trash. The only other decent marauder is the vargur because you can track cruisers better but when multiboxing you waste 20 seconds changing ammo twice for the drifter. No need to talk about Kronos for C5 ratting XD.
@fkubtchtt6 10 ай бұрын
Range is 70 with a range script I've never ran implants ever but you need nos and therefore no smartbombs for golem
@mangaranwow2543 7 ай бұрын
Love this vid Captain Benzie. Marauders are awesome ships, can´t get enough of seeing them in action. The first Marauder i was able to fly is the Kronos and the second is the Varghur, so i am happy with this outcome. Using the Marauders myself mainly for missions, the Varghur is really a beast, but i love my Kronos rails so much because it is so easy to use. So i switch a lot between the two. Thanks again for making this, and i subbed for more content.
@captainbenzie 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! And really glad you enjoyed the video!
@TBCN69 10 ай бұрын
Ma man is the definition of “In rust we trust”
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
😘🚀
@trilalterst4656 10 ай бұрын
Suggestion: t3 cruisers vs hacs for c3 ratting. Or maybe the other ships used for that, like the drek and praxis...
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
I do intend to rank the T3Cs and then eventually do a full "All the C3 ships I've covered" ranking 😂
@sergeyargyle7157 7 ай бұрын
Ikitursa win btw
@JadeXyan 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see the Kronos/railgun buffs made a good impact here.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Oh yes, big time!!
@brianchristopher8843 10 ай бұрын
I just the other day injected my way into the vargur. Specifically for pvp purposes. We love shoving them through e545 holes and dropping them on people ratting. I've also brought one in for running ded sites. I'm still working on marauder V and a couple other skills before I go into a N062.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Marauder V is such a LONG train 😅
@caffiend81 9 ай бұрын
I am a Kronos fanboy. Been a Gallente pilot since 2005 lol. Glad it did well in your tests!
@captainbenzie 9 ай бұрын
Really surprised me!
@killroy255 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video like this for the t3cs, navy cruisers, and assault frigs for c3 and c1/2 wormholes. Maybe even dreads/carriers for c5 or c6 if you ever end up living in one of those holes/have a contact to help with them. Maybe youd be able to have someone else test them for in those bigger sites?
@captainbenzie 5 ай бұрын
I'll be doing a T3C comparison video very soon and actually revisiting my HAC one.
@shaymcquaid 10 ай бұрын
Good to see you keeping busy, Cap'n! Cheers!
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@thierry1026 10 ай бұрын
Im quite sure my golem used to hit the cruisers just right, I even recall making a big mistake and going in with wrong smartbombs and I had to kill the frigs with torps despite their logis, Had to overheat but ive manage to break one of them, they they fell apart quickly and I warped out.
@michaelbobek3543 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@joshuacrumley2031 4 ай бұрын
"Bloody flashlights used by the Amarr".......Welp, thats the second ship name idea you've given me tonight, lol.
@captainbenzie 4 ай бұрын
😂
@lordjanuss 10 ай бұрын
I just switched from kronos to vargur, pains me to say, but newer going back, great video. Challenge : is there a ship that can clear all gas/ore/relic/data sites 😊 those videos I would like to see, as cost effective and fast as possible ….🙂🙂🙂
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
I'll check it out!!
@Coldsweden 2 ай бұрын
The unified paladin fit can tank all sites + drifter without refits so yes there is a fit
@MysticalDragon73 2 ай бұрын
@@Coldsweden whats that fit?
@calvinhood8138 10 ай бұрын
They changed how rails work. Have you tried the site with them? No range issues
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Railguns, yes. But they struggle to track the Cruisers.
@Vyrewolf 10 ай бұрын
I chose to fly the proteus and kronos, because people said they were the least impressive, and I'm a contrarion.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
I honestly enjoy both!!
@darthluddite7183 10 ай бұрын
Vargur is so well named, lol. In Rust We Trust!
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
🚀❤️
@BroddeB Ай бұрын
Are the fits you used available somewhere? I get the feeling you completely overtanked the paladin if you got that bad performance. I love to fly the vargur. But in my experience the paladin is more efficient.
@captainbenzie Ай бұрын
The fits are in each of the individual videos. To clarify, it's not a bad ship, got the job done, but others worked arguably better.
@jjbrentson4519 10 ай бұрын
I think you missed the fact that the Golem is the best of the four because I said so.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Lmao 🤣 if it's the one you enjoy most then it's best for you!
@joshuacrumley2031 4 ай бұрын
He did forget to mention one thing if you choose the Vargur. Don't forget your duct tape. Sorry, I couldn't resist lol. I'd say with the Golem, stick with cruises and fiddle with the fit a bit to squeeze the DPS you need out of it. I've never ran WH sites, so I don't know about the C5's specifically, but I've never had a problem getting some above decent dps out of them. Not elite mind you, but better than decent.
@captainbenzie 4 ай бұрын
In Wormholes, cruises are pointless. You don't need the range, the DPS is low, resulting in much slower clear times.
@joshuacrumley2031 4 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie fair enough. I guess it just makes me sad it's so low on the list, lol.
@MysticalDragon73 2 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie how does the dps torps/cruise compare against smaller ships? Its been many moons since Ive used them vs rats. That was 10-15 years ago when I was running a raven. Cruise were found to be more useful overall and allowed you to defend yourself better against hostiles.
@user-it1yk5mq3o 10 ай бұрын
ranking assault frigates plsssss next :)
@Spiritt_Daphiti 10 ай бұрын
The Golden Fleet or atleast what left , the mighty Paladin can use a Tachyon Beam Laser / Ultraviolet or Imperial Multifrequency ......its not so fast but it is safer ... . If i was in your place whit these 6-7 in your fleet goody pilots ....ill do it faster the site/s . Stay aligned , upon last 10-9 sec left on Bastion module activate your Microwarpdrive just 1 cycle .....when you get out of bastion spam your hotkey to warp to aligned point .....= insta warp trick ! You can put MWD and Jumpdrive on Paladin ....on other Slavery Democratic so called States ships , no tank will left after been dryed out ? No battery.....o7 Go Capitals C5/C6 ? Carrier/Fax/Dread , fleet it PvE ! ....noone ever done it !! I mean to show it to the other players in EvE Online ! Evolve .
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Nice tip!
@arcanilie618 6 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie A single set of Imperial Navy Standards will fix all of Paladin's problem when it come to drifter and most of others too but it will eat a little bit into dps
@TheFirstLanx 10 ай бұрын
Is there really no way to get a dual TP setup on the golem? I am not in a position to test it out myself, but the spreadsheets seem to suggest a golem fit for application should work... All the more experienced people tell me it won't work, but don't elaborate beyond "Golem doesn't do cruisers well".
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Two TP is still not really enough for good application and you're running low on cap stability.
@thecomposerchanginggames5250 10 ай бұрын
You ought to see what a HAW Phoenix can dish out 😄
@BarsMonster 7 ай бұрын
I fly Golem with dual TP, ballistic computer and 2x rigor rigs... Cruisers pop in 4 cruise missiles... I am considering going down to 1 TP though after finishing painter skills.
@ottomcannick7698 10 ай бұрын
Hmmm, kronos being #2 at both makes a strong argument
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
It's a great ship
@munkymunk9053 9 ай бұрын
TBH all marauders except the Kronos can do sites + drifter in roughly the same ammount of time if you are refitting for the drifter. Some people don't like to refit because a sneaky snake can come along and spawn the drifter before you're ready to deal with it and you can die. The Golem can absolutely fit 2 application modules and still be cap stable, I regularly do Garrisons with a target painter and missile guidance computer, it's not as fast as a Pally or Vargur but you make up the time on the drifter easily. I am in a C5 corp and the number of different ways people like to approach site running is crazy, a lot of it is just preference, nobody uses a Kronos though, nobody!
@captainbenzie 9 ай бұрын
Yet I honestly find the Kronos one of the best! Yes, overall they're similar, but the Vargur and the Kronos do pull ahead in times.
@munkymunk9053 9 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie that's fine with the skills/ implants/fits you tested out but people who are doing this 2-3 times per week have done 1000s of sites and come to different conclusions. I'm all for people having their preferences but telling people that the Paladin is worse than the Kronos is just flat out wrong. Sorry, but I just don't like people getting bad information.
@iaistalker 7 ай бұрын
im prefer dualbox vargur + golem. vargur for clear site, golem for drifter. it wasnt planned at first, i just learn vargur and then join wh corp. and all people here flied only paladins and golems))) so i was the only vargur xD eventually i learn golem at second window for drifter (ofc i can do it with vargur but the time is pathetic, because of factiin ammo which actually is t1) after marauders changes with one more low slot vargur is a king of utility. one refit for everything, can do both site and drifter with no problems. and yes, i fitted it in armor to run WR holes. like, paladins suffer hard at pulsar, vargur just dont care. and its cheap as F because only thing u need is some blue SB and 2 faction smartbombs the problem is that if you dont want refit, u have no MJD. still can use mobile MJD unit though.
@captainbenzie 7 ай бұрын
Glad you're enjoying!!
@teamdeathmatch3454 10 ай бұрын
so you are willing to use the optimized ammo for the Golem and Vargur but not for the Pally or Kronos Imp navy muti freq for high damage and HIGH tracking Imp Navy Standard good range ok damage and very LOW Capacitor usage. you may have skills to use the ships but that doesn't mean you have the experience to fly them.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Kronos, your best damage profile is Void up until 20km. Literally ran the math. Paladin, eh, Multifrequency is good but doesn't save the ship imho It's opinions. No need to get so defensive/rude about it 😉
@user-it1yk5mq3o 10 ай бұрын
are you in a c5 corp? id like to join if possible.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Nah, we're not at that stage yet. I just have Marauders ready if we ever connect to a decent C5
@AlexB_o7 8 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie It's not really a topic of being relevant. Some chose to live in lower class because of the ability to defend farmholes via rage rolling high class static ;)
@MysticalDragon73 2 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie ever thought of a c4 with a c3/c5 static? seems like its the best of both worlds
@rudierossouw1412 10 ай бұрын
Can Rattlesnake handle these sites?
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Yes, with a specific fit and it's a bit slower. I'll showcase that eventually.
@rudierossouw1412 10 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie tnx i would love to see that one😆
@somerandomdudesayshi 10 ай бұрын
My inner caldari fanboy wants to kill you rn for only putting the caldari ship into 3rd place
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
I love the Golem. It's a fantastic ship, especially for the Drifter. It just doesn't do as well in the base site as the others.
@kane28tyberium 10 ай бұрын
How's the money in such a C5 these days?
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
You get around 250m a site
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
@@agenthaine "a site". 250m is JUST the site.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
@@agenthaine except that depends on how you want to maximise profit. A Vargur, for example, makes more by just running the site.
@slaedgramaich1934 10 ай бұрын
First off, why are you flying Marauders without a relevant implant set. Second, why are you flying Marauders without a relevant implant set... haha
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
To prove it's possible
@Rapture9999 10 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzietorp golem with hydra implants would be interesting
@TheGoatPC 10 ай бұрын
Clearly you haven't ran enough of these sites. Neut pressure is an issue for ALL marauders. You have to fit accordingly for the drifter and use implants. The fact you think the kronos is some how better than the Paladin or golem proves my point you are still new. Wait for the rats to get closer? Things you don't have to do in any other marauder and you can hit at those ranges. The Paladin are superior for C5 sites vs all the rest, Instant ammo swaps, crazy range, an zero reloads. As for tracking, it's not an issue as you'll track cruisers no problem. Frigs you have smart bombs for. Golem > Vargu > Kronos.
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Every single one of those Marauders was run in at least ten sites, and ten Drifter kills. Yes, you change your fit for the Drifter, I said all this at the start that the individual videos for each Marauder contain ALL that information and that it's pointless to repeat it here. Check those videos.
@fkubtchtt6 10 ай бұрын
You refit for drifter? Dont even need to with any if fit correctly as they should be...🤔
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
@@fkubtchtt6 yeah, cos if you go full Capacitor Stability for the Drifter, which you NEED to do, then you're suboptimal for the main site. I've showcased the Vargur doing the site with the Drifter fit, so it's doable, but it takes literally ten minutes longer than just refitting between the two
@fkubtchtt6 10 ай бұрын
I guess my opinions are coming from group running them which is what should be done for optimal but honestly running a mix of maurders is the way to go for site clear times
@TheGoatPC 10 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie Had you been properly fit (for drifter) and running implant, that kronos at the start would have most likely survived. If you're looking at this from purely a solo point of view, having a site fit and a drifter fit is optimal, as ashy in space wrote about years ago. But, you also want implants. If you're properly prepping the site and creating warp in bookmarks (like you should) . As for sub-optimal, the Kronos is the worst, you need rails to hit further out targets and it can't hit the drifter resist holes, which is EM in armor and thermal in shield. it's the slowest of the 3 for completion times. So again, how you rank it above the golem and paladin is beyond me.
@Travlinmo 5 ай бұрын
WHY am I watching this! I will never use one of these or fly these missions/Anom's! :) Minmatar is winmatar... yeah yeah yeah.
@captainbenzie 5 ай бұрын
Well, it has other uses too and sometimes just nice to see what else is out there! 😁
@Travlinmo 5 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie Agree. Like say last night when I was Cyno'd and they killed my ...Procurer ;P. Overkill is underrated.
@anthonyward5114 10 ай бұрын
winmatar....cringe ;)
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Cringe is what I do best!!
@filipfenix 10 ай бұрын
You don't Cruise missle a golem. You torpedo fit it. hahahahahahahahahhahahaha
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
Why would you drop your DPS for range you don't need? 😉
@filipfenix 10 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie I am confused, Torpedos are the close range max damage delivery system for launchers. Curise missles are the long range, altho a well fit golem hits 70km with torps
@captainbenzie 10 ай бұрын
@@filipfenix exactly. I'm using torps in the video. Torps are what I recommend here 😉
@filipfenix 10 ай бұрын
@@captainbenzie Torp golems are the best c5 sub caps. You just have to count the shots, also expo velo scripts 100%
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