It was so broken it was still useful even after god chars were introduced

Dude could’ve used susanoo with kamui shurikens without any EMS if kakashi didn’t have the other one. Considering obito’s stupid durability it wouldn’t even do anyth

@@gnooshguhh idk why he didn’t take it back maybe cause he wanted to use izanagi

Obito with both Kamui, with Perfect Susanoo would probably be stronger than Hashirama. Raw power + hax

@@FireBoy332cause he considered it a gift to kakashi, and even after switching sides he respected what he did

*Tsukoyomi doesn't require eye contact!* The First time we see Tsukoyomi, in part 1 of Naruto, Itachi uses it on Kakashi without eye contact. He just moved a finger and Kakashi is trapped.

@@MMAli-rq8kd no one asked

@@MMAli-rq8kd Are you mental?

@@MMAli-rq8kd not necessarily, plus the amount of times stuff from part one that gets retconned really makes stuff like that kinda iffy lol.

@@MMAli-rq8kd In part 1 I thought it was that Kakashi _was_ making eye contact specifically using his sharingan, expecting it to be able to counter genjutsu, and didn't know about Tsukuyomi at the time.

The Uchiha Naruto. Naruto was in the same boat and then became Jesus Christ.

Bro if u really look into it deeply.. U will know that.. Obito was not weak as a child.. See.. He jst used to compare himself to kakashi all the time.. He was made fun of.. Bcs he used to lose to kakashi.. Who was a prodigy.. But u see.. Obito's firestyle jutsu was even bigger nd better than itachi's nd sasuke's... Nd he was competing with a prodigy.. While not being a prodigy... Well.. Obito later became a God.. Then kakashi was a mere child in front of him🤦‍♀️😎😎

@@DaddyDagoth lmao nobody can take this story serious in any way. Naruto went from bullied child that wanted to overcome his obstacles into the reincarnation of holy chakra jesus, the chosen one with inherited chakra from his parents who were considered one of the strongest ninja to ever exist, his dad literally was hokage, he was trained by a sennin and anchient holy goad toads to learn a technique almost nobody else could master - but its a story about overcoming obstacles, right? BELIEVE IT

@@CODA96I mean they’re not gonna make a story on some average person who has little to no potential especially in a shonen where the MC is meant to be some damn prophecy child who becomes the strongest.

@@crimson7488 Not really. JoJo is also a shounen and doesnt feature a child of prodigy. Making your character the strongest, without flaws and faults just makes him more unbelievable.

Obito wins there you go

He'd be way too O.P. Both his eyes and Hashirama cells would make him unstoppable

Yeh for sure 👏

@@CH1LLS. Obito might beat Minato he would just long kamui Minato Kunai

Obito would low diffed Minato (assuming Obito had unlocked his Susanoo, and without the Susanoo, Kamui is very broken), and probably could gather all the Bijuus all by himself and only needs Nagato to revive Madara

I linked his Mangekyo differences like how Obito's are the same but used differently Sadly straightforward

It seems like itachi got the longer cool down one

I still don't realize

Makes perfect sense

@@gameuniverse5973 i think he just got a weaker version or one with more charge time/recoil due to how UNBELIEVABLY BROKEN TSUKUYOMI IS, i feel like one sharingan ability is always waaaaaaay stronger, while the other hurts the fuck out the person who uses it or leaves them wide open

You just- You just said exactly the same thing he did…

@@moe5177 it's a nuance. Swag attributes kotoamatsukami's success to its "flexibility", meanwhile I say it's not really an attribute of the jutsu itself. Itachi just programmed a really vague command and trusted the victim of the jutsu to make best use of it. This doesn't mean the jutsu is weaker than what swag portrays it to be -- it's still a very powerful genjutsu and the crux of it relies on convincing the target to take action instead of directly controlling them like a mindless zombie. I quote "the eye could have compelled him to mindlessly patrol konoha, instead it ordered him to do something more urgent and less obvious ie stop kabuto's edo tensei." Neither the eye nor itachi during his life could have predicted when or how the jursu would trigger. *The eye did not order Itachi to stop kabuto. Edo Itachi decided that by himself,* after analysing the war situation he was summoned into.

@@moe5177 funnily enough, if you pause right at 12:30 you can see Itachi himself say "(translated) this jutsu orders me to protect konoha" So it's pretty clear the jutsu did not order him to stop kabuto

@@YounesLayachi I mean basically That eye gave Itachi his own consciousness because Itachi always wanted to protect the village LoL you understand what I'm trying to say? Like if Itachi was under kabuto's control he would have done the same Once again Itachi casually being the epitome of Uno reverse card 😂

@@dilsher2010 yes I agree

And the stamina drain would be substantially lower, which the cooldown would probably be associated with.

The fact that there is a time limit at all would suggest there was one just shorter cos kakashi never had one so probably unique to shisui eyes

Based on the fact Shisui thought he could use it on the entire Uchiha clan and was know to use it, it probably had a lot shorter cool down time(due to 1. him being the natural user and 2. having both eyes), similar to how Kakashi has a much much higher cost to using it at all

Exactly

yeah, shisui unlocked it at 7 and died when he was around 16ish. The cooldown simply makes no god damn sense considering he would only have been able to use it twice max.

Shisui didn't have a big cooldown, but most people forget that.

Wasn’t stated wether or not Shisui had d cool down, that’s just head cannon

@@Rck-vert I never said he didn't have one just it'd obviously be way lower then 10 years because that's for a normal person using it not the guy who it was literally made for.

@@Rck-vert The only person who really mentions it is danzo, and I believe in this scenario he is an unreliable narrator.

Yeah Danzo with Hashirama cells could use Shisui's eye once a day

I do. Obito only got so strong because of kamui and hashirama cells. Without hashirama cells, obito would only be able to use kamui a handful of times. We see this in the Kakashi Obito fight during the war arc. Kakashi and a hashirama cell and Rinnegan buffed Obito are at least comparable in power (though it did look like Obito had the upper hand throughout the fight and only lost that upperhand because Kakashi is just straight up more intelligent). But again, the second Obito stops relying on Kamui, He is only Kakashi level or slightly above that even with Rinnegan and Hashirama cell buffs. So all in all, Obito would probably never become kage level. Jonin level? Probably. But he would still get his shit rocked by any actual S-Rank Ninja. Obito wasnt a secret prodigy like Naruto was, Obito was an actual honest go god dead last with barely any potential. And that is the difference between them. Obito is not “Naruto but evil”, Obito is Naruto without the ability to become great. Obito is Naruto if he was a failure. Tl;dr: Obito would not be able to spam kamui and would not have Hashi cells and the rinnegan, and is therefore fodder.

@@Kaynster dude anyone with an instant kill button is OP bro. He would have gone down as a legendary shinobi who's really dangerous. Definetly S rank, plus he has all the other abilities granted by the Sharingan. By your logic all Uchiha's r stuck because mangekyo is a b*tch to your chakra, but shinobi like Itachi and Shisui were able to become kage level ninja despite the chakra limitations. Obito's mangekyo is just so broken its ridiculous. He definetly would be S rank and would quality for Hokage in terms of feats.

@@Kaynster Obito's sharingan is a god level one,only dimension shifting abilities in Naruto are all possessed by god level characters with the exception of flying rajin which was invented by Tobirama and made Minato 4th Hokage, Obito's Kamui and his incredibly strong genjutsu he placed on the 4th mizukage would make him above S-Rank.Kamui has 2 abilities,one is involved with opening a dimension and one with transporting parts of the body to escape attack,the one that Obito would not spam is of opening dimensions, the one of transporting parts of the body is just like Itachi's Tsukuyomi,it doesn't take that much chakra as amaterasu did on Itachi but it's still a perfect defense jutsu,as perfecttly defense as Amaterasu is perfectly offense.Obito was no genius yes but he was still above and beyond a hardworking ninja with great potential and the likes of Naruto and Might Guy show hardwork and great potential are the recipe to make one a god level not S-rank but god level ninja,and with Obito's Kamui alone,he would be what Sasuke was with his Rinnegan

yeah, just don't get stoned and good job will be there for you

@@JIJCrow obito is poo, madara said he regrets having obito and wished he encountered sasuke during the war

No You are delusional

@@kasasukar6545 to each their own i guess

I honestly Kinda agree with this. Just give him like "foresight" or something with his MS and then The EMS and later rinnegan just enchaned it. Hate The fact madara was able to predict pretty much The ENTIRE SHOW and The only reason we get to this is "I planned it" 🤣

@@elite_rock_god2292 RIGHT? future sight would explain the bullshit a little more, plus the idea of Rinnegon amplifying it would explain how he could see DECADES into the future, i like it better than "it just went the way he planned on a whim"

@@evodolka for real there is alot of ways to have this make more sense as well. The EMS and rinnegan enchanced his abilites of foresight, The hashirama cells and The tree he was plugged into enchanced it into seeing The past as well with kaguya or some shit, his super old age and mastery of his sharingan made him see possible outcomes, like just make it better then "I planned EVERYTHING! Oh 60-70 years of wars, peace, ups and downs? Ye I planned that. Oh removing a seal i placed on your heart by having your heart obliterated to break free from my control? Ye I planned that. Oh kakashi killed rin? Ye I planned that just in time for you to see it. Oh a young easy to manipulate Uchiha randomly found his way into my cavern after he dident die from a huge boulder? Ye I planned that." Like wtf when does it end!?🤣 im not asking for much here just have it make sense!!!

Even madara all version cant touch obito

Yeah. The only time we see that eye perform kotoamtsukami is when it made eye contact with itachi, so everyone just assumes that eye contact is a requirement

What is weird about this is that, even though he loved his brother so much he still had a plan to protect the leaf from him 😄

Exactly !

@@yaredterefe1508 i think this was extremely well thought out on kishimotos part

I mean you can’t prove that it can be used without eye contact when it’s not stated nor used without it ?

Fr, anything involving intangibility and ignores defense is gonna at least be higher tier

It's trash. Genjutsu still works

Kamui is broken way to broken there a reason why both eyes were separated until the end when god beings were around

@@bjrnthebootybandit lmao cry Itachi fankid 😂😂

@@gameuniverse5973 even after that they nerfed obito by saying that he is drained bcz of tentails extraction but that nerf still wasn't enough . They nerfed obito again when he uses kamui to find sasuke like wtf how many times you have to nerf him lmao . Thats still wasn't enough for them . Then they killed obito so that he won't destroy boruto villians 😂

S+:Black zetsu the biggest brain in all of Naruto no one was able to figure him out even hagoromo as a chakra ghost dint know about him

@@gameuniverse5973 that's not exactly all his intelligence. His anonymity comes from his unique abilities and circumstance, and that gave him the advantage to manipulate history. Other characters in the same position could do just as well if not better.

@@gameuniverse5973 Hagaromo as a chakra ghost literally spoke about black Zetsu manipulating the stone he left behind. Which means he knows about him

@@Rck-vert he only said it after black zetsu revealed himself so he link the dots on what Madara was thinking he doing also of he did know he before that he would have told Naruto with Sasuke to watch out

Characters like Shikamaru, Shikaku, Tobirama senju, Minato, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Kakashi, Jiraiya would be on the list

He straight up said that in the long range Kamui section.

@@BlackKnightsCommander Might've just missed that then

thats because he was getting his chakra restored by naruto. it amped him by 3 times

@@raiden3013 True but before he would literally die from using it just 2-3 times. When he used it on Deidara it took him like 5 mins to use it even once.I think eventually he was able to do better than that at the very least even without Naruto's Chakra boost playing into it, no?

​@@patrickc4381 no he was blasting it was shown as 5 minutes but the blast would have been go.off in seconds.

Quess you can argue Kakashi works differently that why

Welp, they had to nerf him somehow

nerf no jutsu! there's really no reasonable explanation, they just realized he'd be too op. these theories the fans are coming up with just aren't supported by the things in canon lol

@Jon Miller There is zero evidence that the ten tails is the reason he "couldn't" pass through things. the fact Madara could use the kamui it is proof of that, and there is no reason he could arbitrarily still use a part of kamui and not another.

@@Synthwave89 i could be wrong its been awhile since I watched the arc but I am pretty sure obito self monologues that he can't pass through things because of the 10 tails

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They hold out a lot of their best content until December cause it pays out better for some weird youtube reason.

@@SpammytheHedgehog you.... What?

No, it is just Shisui.

@@aliceDarts it was everyone just no on else used the eye. Danzo himself stated that he only could use it because of the hashirama cell.s

@@marcoskrinjar1084 I think he just didn’t realize there were two different abilities per eye and that while it did have a cool down it wasn’t ten years for that specific eye

@@marcoskrinjar1084 and I’m talking about danzos statement I do believe both eyes have cooldowns no matter who uses them I jus think they have different cooldowns

Does the crow have hashirama cells ? No

I also believe that to be the case.

That's too basic tbh, like undying flames, access to a pocket dimension, an unbreakable illusion, that doesn't really fit within the natural mangekyo abilities tbh

That's a great point, but sounds like basic Sharingan!

@@ThomasOwOD I never said it was his mangekyo ability

@@DrNasrooo cmon man, that was implied, he had his mangekyo activated in that scene

I think that was storm 4's Madara sharingan ability

Maybe Sarada can have that one

@@kakashi6957 what? No it wasnt

Za warudooooooo

Madara game Ms was able to rewind time also Momoshiki kinda stops time so

btw its not stated that shisui had the 10 year cooldown, its only stated that other people would have the huge cooldown.Same goes for the right eye.😊

@@cynthatic6590 ye I feel that The 10 year CD on The eye The crow used was a thing cause it was used BY A FUCKING CROW that has no chakra to help replenish The chakra in The eye 🤣

Shisui's Koto is litearlly Kisimoto's pen as a power. It could make anyonde do whatever at any point.

That broken eye power is the reason some characters were written off during the War Arc like Shisui. Kabuto mentioned that he could resurrect Shisui if he could find his eye that Danzo took from Shisui. It was very smart for Obito to keep Danzo body away from Kabuto imagine if he got some DNA from Shisui and revived him.

@@Bloopergrandson1 like what a shisui that have unlimited chakra and can spam kotoamatsu

What ability though? He doesn’t have one :/ not canon anyway

@@_wolfynstine His limbo clones are one of his eye abilities. The second one is up in the air though with it only being shown in a game so it’s tricky to say it’s canon

@@lordescanor1365 Limbo is one of Madara's unique Rinnegan abilities. Same way Sasuke's Space-Time ninjutsu is his.

@@lordescanor1365 his limbo clones are for his Rinnegan, not his ms. Neither of his ms abilities are shown in confirmed canon stuff, although there is the game one about turning back time. Which would be sick, but it goes unconfirmed as a lot of the game scenes aren’t considered canon 😭

@@kakamaru5is there any evidence to suggest that rinnegan users have unique abilites? Isn’t it more likely that it is in fact his MS ability?

Shin other Ms ability literally allows him to travel between dimensions that busted kamui only transport you to one dimension with it being need to link to Kaguya portals to go to others and it stated it takes alot of Charkra for Rinnegan users to go through dimensions

@@gameuniverse5973 Does Shin's MS ability allow you to travel to other dimensions or within a single dimension? If memory serves, Shin only used his MS to go between his hideout and the land of fire

Oh my he was able to paralyze uselessness? It must be so strong.

@@gameuniverse5973 Shin's MS never does that, the little weird monster thing's does.

@@Necromancer4267 little weird monster thing?

That's a problem with magic in general. When the only limits to a power is "cost" and "skill", you bet some big ass power creep is about to happen.

What's funny is in the beginning they set up rules and try to have some balance. Unfortunately in fantasy stories like this rules get in the way and they break them.

Bro imagine If sasuke got the kamui, and when his susano fused with narutos kurama avatar they have taild beast kamui bombs... insta kill the whole universe🤣

@@elite_rock_god2292 otsutski who?

If i am not wrong he can see like 2 seconds into the future

@@atox726 then how did he predict like 80 years forward and see 2000+ years backwards???🤣

@@elite_rock_god2292sasuke don’t deserve kamui 😂

Fake fan, doesn't even know his name, smh

@@ShadowOfMassDestruction his name is madara uchiha now go vote him

@@ShadowOfMassDestruction Teuchi Ichiraku

We need a "which character lost this poll?" poll

Ok bro

but we see him still be able to use his sharingan abilitiy through his rinnegan they just switched up in boruto

@@zenuchiha7363 we see him use both eyes in Boruto too.

Nah using one eye for both abilities is a deus ex machina but retaining ms abilities after rinnegan upgrade does make sense. Madara using susaso without eyes however is a little sus

@@BhlackBishop But is it fully explained what EMS actually do? Because Itachi had Amaterasu on his right eye, which Sasuke implanted to get EMS. What if EMS can make use of both characters' abilities? That would explain why his right eye could use Amaterasu and then control it through his own ability.

@@paulsvensson6948 Then why did he never do it against his opponents and when he does it now he's not even suprised that he could it.

I agree, especially considering that long range (offensive) could teleport parts off people and thigs and thus inflicting mortal wounds if needed. Short range Kamui seemed to only transport people and things in their full form, not hacking parts of them off.

Wouldn't they eventually die of dehydration

Nope.. Other kamui eye can only transfer objects.. U see madara was able to transport himself.. Bcs madara had limbo... Madara used kamui to track kamui dimension.. Then he went there with limbo while using kamui

@@cloaks.nimbus Kakashi warped himself multiple times using "his" eye, and he also warped other people : Bee + hachibi, sakura and naruto. Madara warped himself using kakashi's eye. Both kamui eyes can warp the user and any person very close by. Obito's eye care additionally phase through stuff, fully or partially. Kakashi's eye can additionally warp people and things at a distance, fully or partially. It was never once shown that obito's kamui could inflict harm on anything directly. Obito always warped other people and things fully. While kakashi can partially warp other people and things, damaging them : deidara's arm, gedō mazō's shoulder, hachibi's tails, rabbit jyuubi's tails, madara's gudōdama shield...) Madara did not use limbo clones to warp , and why should he ? He doesn't need them, since he can simply warp himself using kakashi's eye. Moreover, he couldn't use limbo at that time. All his limbo clones were sealed or busy fighting naruto, he had none left on him, and he was very far away from him clones. If the limbo clones could use jutsu, doryoku or any ability at all, we would have seen it, but they didn't, so they can't. They can only fly and throw punches.

@@YounesLayachi actually I was explaining how cud madara teleport himself to kamui.. When that eye cud only transfer objects not the user himself.. Nd obito only said that he cud not phase through objects.. Bcs he had ten tails inside him.. Doesn't mean he cud not teleport himself using kamui... So obito cud also teleport himself.. But he cud not phase through attacks as ten tails was inside him

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@@stonemims159 fr fr

or just imagine if no one had another kamui to counter his

Or maybe he wass

I am to this day convinced that his MS power was having the physically strongest Susano'o. Every form of his Susan'o was stronger than the ones we had seen before. His Ribcage was stronger than Sasuke by a lot, his full body Susan'o had 3 heads, could weave jutsu, had infinite swords and seemed more durable than Sasuke's or Itachi's and also had legs and was way bigger. His full Body ARMORED was the same size as the god damn Perfect Susano'o which is insane considering Itachi's and Sasuke's armored. It also had legs. And then there was the Perfect Susano'o, something that we later found out was only obtained by characters with Six Paths power (Hagoromo, Indra, Sasuke after gaining Hag's chakra) and yet Madara has unlocked it with his EMS alone. MS abilities are linked to user's biggest desires at the moment of unlocking it. Itachi wanted to warp people's perception and to destroy utterly for the sake of defending his village (Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu) Sasuke took his brother's ninja way and warped it in his own twisted vision (Flame control over the Amaterasu) Obito wanted to dissapear and take others away from this awful reality (Kamui intangibility, transport and his literal personal alternate reality/dimension) Madara wanted to phisically protect his brothers and clan so what is the Ultimate Defense? Susano'o, which he gained the physically strongest and largest version of.

@@DaddyDagoth I think it was having high level clones. Before sage of 6 path mode his shadow clones could use multiple susanoos but after he got the power up he upgraded to limbo clones it seems like that ability was unique to him since obito and nagato never used clones like that or limbo.

Why is that

@@IndexInvestingWithCole because almost any one of them is broken even shin other Ms is broken it can open any portal to any dimension but for some reason he kept the one which can control any weapon

@@IndexInvestingWithCole because it would’ve been difficult to give a million or so people unique ms abilities.

@@Rck-vert nah just put on the syfy channel

Your life sounds empty.

At the rate they're going I'd be surprised if they even give her Mangekyo, she still doesn't have three tome and we are nearing the time skip. Even if she does get Mangeyko, she won't be able to use it much cause she'd go blind. They'll have some ass-pull most likely for this or avoid giving it to her altogether. Uchihas just get shit on in the Boruto series as it is, shameless.

Her father is still alive. Knowing sasuske, he’ll just rip his eye out and give it to sarada

@@Tezzomoney Is there ever a case of a single eye manifesting into dual EMS or would she just get one? Also extremely unlikely they'll use a violence route for it, it'll probably be as he is dying and he would want her to have the eye.

@@regularr8333 she’ll get just one. There’s another option but it’s a long stretch, her grandfathers MS might still be available. She can’t keep up with the rest of the prodigies without EMS and she’ll probably get a rinnegan in the long run cuz we know the first hokage cell is readily available

@@regularr8333 sasuke’s og eyes might still be laying around somewhere. Remember he awakened the rinnegan in one of itachi’s eyes. His other sharingan is also itachi’s eye.

And they become blind

You can be just like Kakashi and never go blind for some reason

@@gameuniverse5973 When he was getting blind Madara just took the eye

​@@gameuniverse5973 nah u can just have so6p chakra nd not go blind

The answer to that is always Hashiramas cells

One every 10 years and another one that ends when you realise you are being tricked while he is famous for doing that so if he activates it you probably think you are under it ending it

Nah obito was imagine with just one Ms that allows you to dodge any attack and can one shot anyone if you touch them

And he accomplished nothing with it

nah definitely obito

nah its got to be Obito. He got his own dimension that he can enter and exit freely

They are fired but just really fast although maybe sasuke’s blaze release can make it just appear but idk

Left eye doesnt take ten years

Reads like a yugioh card effect

@@jayash2957 There is a panel in this very video where Itachi says it takes ten years after he uses it on himself.

@@KnuttyEntertainment fam its never stated for shisui And if you do the math Itachi was 21 when he died He was 12 when shisui died he would have to be 22 to know Bro shisui didnt even have ms for ten years Its obvious that ten years was programmed into the crow

@@jayash2957 Unlocking MS could also just give you an instinctual understanding of the jutsu. And because we know different people can have the same MS abilities, there could just be a limited catalogue, which could be known and documented by the Uchiha clan. Afterall, Itachi knew how to use both Izanami and Izanagi despite never seeing or using either. So Shisui/Itachi could just know that because a previous user of Kotoamatsukami said so. There’s even a potential candidate in Kagami Uchiha.

Real neutral fans said ; "obito better than madara"

@@kasasukar6545 ironic cause he jus made a video about them lol

What does the ten tails being separate from him mean? Wouldn't that mean he could still make his entire body "solid else where"? Like, if he phases his entire body to the kamui dimension in an explosion (which he experienced as a jinchuriki), the ten tails would then not be separate meaning he can still do kamui on his entire body while being ten tails jinchuriki, but he doesn't. I think the explanation is much simpler, his ability was too OP so they had to nerf him.

@@Synthwave89 What I mean is his body contains the Ten tails so he can't have parts of his body existing in another area as a result. Its a different case than just sucking up your body through a portal, or getting injured and healing both of which Madara did when he was the ten tails. I think its possilbe that if there was some kind of in balance with the ten tails, maybe Obito would have lost control and become mindless again, like he was he he first beame the ten tails until he pulled hs midn together and regain control over himself something Madara also didn't have issues with.

If he cab, he cant defeated even kaguya

@@Synthwave89 yup that literally is the only reason and madara doing the exact thing you described kind of punches a giant hole throught the plot of naruto. Obito wouldve been unstoppable so they had to nerf him.

It more counters the user of Kamui not Kamui itself

That was vs incomplete kamui 😳

@@luhniso that wasn't even the highest level of the thunder god techniques

​@@alaye5583huh? Thunder god technique has no level. Whats r u talking about.

the reason he never seemed to wear out or go blind unlike the other ms characters is because half his body was hashirama's cells, which are like ultra-stamina boosters that buff your bodies' stats to a crazy degree.