Slavery is bad because slaves don't pay taxes. Classic victoria 2 mindset

Artisans are chads who make tanks in their basements.

Aristocrats are like cockroaches in lace. I'll never forget how hilarious it was when I converted an EU4 to Vic2 game as a genocidal Mongol Empire. Whereas my friend went for turbo literacy humanism in Scotland, I went for ultra traditional aristocracy for that cav combat. This had unintended consequences when the save was converted to vic2 - my capital city was 40% aristocrats

The farmer should be B because goods like cotton, silk and tea are really valuable at the start of the game. Also because they will fight for your country as mobilized units and will be a source of income. One can play the game without artisans and aristocrats but not without farmers, so it's not fair to rank them equally

Artisans making tanks with wool

No matter how much you industrialise you cannot beat the production of modernised Chinese artisans. Also your meme game is on point mate, never have I seen someone use FGO, Tintin and Morrowind together

arent artisans necessary in the very early game when you dont have factories to produce steel and machine parts?

I don't usually like tier lists but this was very entertaining

The chad craftsmen being the centrepiece of every successful viki2 society, S tier everyday

Victoria 2 players are the hidden gems of humanity

Capitalist is actually useful if you have large nations because otherwise your game will turn into a tycoon games real quick (You had to manually build and upgrade your factory, which is fine for small nations but tedious for bigger ones).

The aristocrats are arguably the most integral part of this game though. They hire labourers and farmers to work on the RGOs in every province. You literally wont be able to produce shit like wheat or coal if you dont have them :/

What also bumps up Craftsmen, Labourers and Farmers up for me is that you can mobilize them for your army. They and the Soldiers win you wars while the other pops do nothing for that.

"I tell you guys, CANNED FOOD is the future of business." - Elon Musk, probably

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY GOD TIER

Artisans are the producers of the feudal age. Then the merchant class began selling them their resources, and buying the products. This turned them essentially into the merchants' workers. So the merchants put them in one big place and made them produce stuff together, making the first manufactories, which became factories. And that is how the Capitalist mode of production started. They work nearly exactly how they did in real life, except they survive longer in Vic2. They are starving and instead of becoming a factory worker, the just continue to starve like a moron.

for education spending, I actually recommend you maintain the clergy as part of your deficit spending mechanism to prevent money stockpiling

Straight fire. Can't wait for the Vicky 3 vids when it comes out.

Soldiers are better than craftsmen because you don’t NEED craftsmen to survive, but you do need soldiers

bro you got something here. if you produce more content, there’s no way your channel doesn’t take off.

This video was the first I watched today. Absolutely brilliant mate, I loved the quick edits, memes and overall knowledge of the game.

It's funny that artisans in Vic 2 are basically alchemists, yet they are the hardest hit by industrialization.

Farmers sadly dont transition fast enough the way irl does, in irl due to industrial revolution, each farmer produces a fuck ton, leaving their sons as well as colleagues unemployed

This is high-quality content. Keep going.

I haven't played vanilla in so long that I forgot that serfs aren't in the base game

I find the game's system for generals to be pathetic, auto assign should also just automatically create generals and the points should not be made by percentage but by sheer number of officers

>Barge into Vic2 KZfaq >Post some of the best stuff this community has seen in years >Refuse to elaborate further >Leave

This video turned out a lot funnier than I expected. Kudos to you!

Great video, can't wait to see more content with this high quality!

Actually generals/officers coup may occur, because in game may uprise whole army stack, then general will stay as leader so therefore if he will take capital then it's technically general coup.

I have found that it is quite effective to send rebellious soldier brigades to areas with low supply and let them die, solves many loyalty issues

Capitalists are really nice if you don't want to micro everything. Imo state capitalism/planned economy is just an early game and transition to electronics thing, after that I either use interventionism or laissez faire (usually only post 1890 tho)

I love how you used a painting of the establishment of the Greek Parliamentary Monarchy as a painting for the officers

I like the fact that if a capitalist picks a random factory, and that factory is useless, it'll die. It's like survival of the fittest, only the most useful factories survive (without subsidies)

This is one of the funniest videos I have ever watched (you gotta understand vic 2 though). Keep it up man

Nothing against your other videos, they’re fun in their own way, but I personally would LOVE to see more content like this. Haven’t been this entertained in a minute.

From my time playing - clerks and craftsmen are the end goal, the rest is for growing this population and this is done mostly by increasing literacy , importing the right resources or just having them available and researching tech so that your clerks and craftsmen will exist and will also have factories to work in. Capitalists are more useful that said here I think but not so much early game.

The editing and memes are class on this one

I enjoy the Memes, well made Vicy content that's not just Gameplay. Additionally Morrowind and FGO references? Count me in!

I like seeing my laborer pop have a wealth of 10k pounds and being responsible for 90% of my taxes

I highly disagree with the capitalists' tier. They should be pretty high. Because I would much prefer an unoptimized economy over mind-numbing micro management of railroads and factories. Besides, if they build bad factories just don't subsidize them and they'll go bankrupt and be replaced by better ones.

Capitalists also increase input efficiency, therefore increase profitability. Also there are ways to manipulate what they should build, if you play with f.e USA.

I feel like clerks got a bit underrated over here. Aside from somehow filling less of their needs than the average craftsman most times because "Victoria 2 reasons", they can absolutely save your industry's profits and increase them further while remaining competitive in external markets and fighting against enemy competition. I've got NO IDEA of how this works, but I've got factories running on just a few units of £s on the green despite selling everything go up to _several and several_ times over until they go back to making sizeable profits again and other times where I apparently managed to reduce other Powers' production on certain goods upon encouraging them until the factories reach the 30% output bonus. There is something very, very weird and unexplained about how the profits work in his game and it has A LOT to do with how much output bonus you have at times...

I didnt know anything about pops and only ever promoted soldiers until today 👍 (Even today I only started with Capitalists and Craftsmen)

I've been finding that if you build all of the most profitable factories in only the 3 most highly populated provinces clerks are actually better to promote than craftsmen up to a point and I really like how this allows you to boost your telephone or plane production if you control a small, highly populated city like Prague or Munich even if the rest of your country is poor.

Every time this video appears for me, I make sure to like it again so it stays on top of my liked video list.

it's finally dropped. hell yeah.

The craftsman cries when the Chinese industrialize. The revenge of the artisans destroys the industrial revolution!

Great video! Love the memes and music (Hank Williams!!!!)

based tier list. Chad proletarian vs incel aristocrats

HE'S DONE IT

I thought aristocrats increased resource gain efficiency.

The problem with both Aristocrats and Capitalist, is that they can't lead other lower class pops into revolt, so they never can build up decent brigade counts.

Quality content Also aristocrats increase the cap of RGO workers per province. That’s uh- important too

Btw your new mic is pretty good!

Artisans: HMMM i've been starving for 100 years because im trying to make clipper convoys, it is definetly wise to stay an artisan and not demote to labourer/farmer

I greatly enjoyed this, if you upload more often you're sure to get bigger on youtube

I just got this notified on my phone for no reason

Something that you forgot to point is with craftmen you can make a bug that lets you culturally assimilate unaccepted pops way faster. So yeah, very usefull guys

incredible content

We need a Pop slander video after this.

Good video, enjoyed it

Excellent. Will there be a video about colonies and nationalities?

how are you such a small youtuber? Your channel is pretty cool and funny lol, you have one more sub

congratulations on improving the mic

loved the video, very funny and so true

Mate we need this for vic3

"Artisans are bad pops" AI China: I'll pretend I didn't hear that

I thought this was actually going to be metric exclusively by usefulness, so I was about to nerd rage that Clergymen arent the highest tier. But you are absolutely right, they are too boring and B tier is close enough to Boring so it fits.

Great video! Just one question, Were do I find the chart in 13:05 ?

1) Artisans are debased by craftsmen. I think it has a lot of historical backing I remember reading about artisans protesting against high tariffs in the US 2) Do all pops contribute to mobilization? I thought it was only farmers and laborers? 3) Great video1

16:18 and when the world needed him most, he vanished

Clerks should be A tier, craftsmen run the factories but clerks make them profitable, also that 4% research bonus from clerks is pretty sweet and they're middle class too so good consumers. I think buerecrats should be high A or even low S. The fact that admin efficiency means better POP promotion means its often worth going beurecrats>clergy>craftsmen. Beurecrats also increase tax, tariff efficiency, prevent negative crime modifiers to provinces, allow for turning colonies into states and even coring provinces. Also buerecrats in my games tend to get their luxury good and are good assimilaters to the primary culture. They actually do tons, I think they're S tier

Craftsman intro song?

You gave capitalists too much of a hard time. By the end game, if you developed your capitalist base, they can hard carry your economy on their backs. Sometimes the factories they pick might not LOOK sensible, but they are, and they are actually not viable because of some nonsensical reason.

please make more videos like this. where you talk about the mechanics of the game in a humorous way like this. Maybe you could do one on trade?

what a victora 2 guide

The darts meme was so good

The capitalist getting all the shitty factories has me in tears

Better then most guides

Why didn't you explain the clerk and craftsmen more? Can you please explain what makes them so good/bad?

Take your crown king 👑, spot on!

ooomf entering his golden era

Craftsmen intro song?

The Hankey capitalist meme was fucking top tier

great video

Lol, that Dutch Darts broadcast

Could you link some of those charts you showed in the video ?

Quality Content, they don't make this for the other, inferior paradox games

Man, this gets my expectations up for Vic3. I loved the pop system in Imperator Rome. It is just so much more interesting than just a "development" indicator or 3 (cough ck3, eu4).

You don't want to be in planned economy in a late-game large nation. Unless unneccesary microing is your passion

that Thai advertise is the best of the world anytime I see it I need to rewatch like 10 times.

Good stuff

I just turn up my tariffs to 100% to cleanse my country of artisans.

Classic Hohenzollern prince, stay in military, incognito in politic, died leaving children

Laborers should be S tier because you need them so badly. If your laborers are turned into craftsmen on super important RGOs like iron, the game enters a permanent economic depression because of the resulting global iron shortage breaks the game economy, especially since you can't demote pops into laborers to increase supply. Feels bad. Otherwise great list.

Clerks straight pumps out free goods. i think they are S tier Craftsmans are A tier for me. Output>throughput

Just realized Vicky2 is much more realistic that I previously thought, with things like urbanization (farmers going to towns and becoming craftsmen), slavery becoming nonprofitable, etc.

I would switch the bureaucrats and intellectuals, but the rest is great.

whats the scenes used for aristocrat