Hmmm... It's been almost a year since I've done this. Things have changed, for sure. I think I would rank Arc the Lad, Legend of Mana, Lunar 1, Lunar 2, Tales of Eternia, Persona 2 and DQ7 on the B tier. I was too harsh on them for no reason :(

When Suikoden 2 go straight to the S tier I was like, "Oh yeah that's where my beloved belong!!!" 😄😄😄

S Tier: Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy IX, Suikoden II, Valkyrie Profile A Tier: Kartia, Parasite Eve, Star Ocean: The Second Story, Suikoden, Xenogears, Vandal Hearts, Vanguard Bandits, Wild Arms 2 B Tier: Alundra, Arc the Lad II, Breath of Fire III, Breath of Fire IV, Final Fantasy Tactics,Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Front Mission 3, Grandia, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together, Wild Arms C Tier: Alundra 2, Arc the Lad I, Brave Fencer Musashi, Brigandine: The Legend of Forsena, Dragon Quest VII, Dragon Valor, Jade Cocoon: Story of the Tamamayu, Koudelka, Legend of Mana, Lunar: Eternal Blue, Lunar: The Silver Star Harmony, Mega Man Legends 2, Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen, Person 2: Eternal Punishment, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure, Saga Frontier 2, Saiyuki: Journey West, Tales of Destiny, Tales of Destiny II (Tales of Eternia), Thousand Arms, Vagrant Story, Vandal Hearts II D Tier: Arc the Lad III, Azure Dreams, Battle Hunter, Beyond the Beyond, Digimon World, Digimon World 2, Digimon World 3, Eternal Eyes, Final Fantasy Origins (Final Fantasy I & II), Guardian's Crusade, King's Field, King's Field II, Mega Man Legends, Parasite Eve 2, Revelations: Persona, Saga Frontier, The Granstream Saga, Torneko: The Last Hope E Tier: Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth, Monster Seed, Shadow Tower

Xenogears, Tactics ogre and FF tactics are S rank to me, then again DQ7 would be S as well, freaking love that game. But everything is subjective, crazy how many of those rpgs i look back and say man that's a great game.

Xenogears not being S rank sure surprised me, but everything else makes more than enough sense to me. I can't imagine how hard a PS2 list would be to choose/decide on.

Just in case you didn't know, Front Mission 3 has two completely different storylines. I played it multiple times when I was younger and had absolutely no clue about the second storyline until years later lol

People will have disagreements, but you are a legend for this attempt regardless

Erick: Puts FF7 and FFT in B tier. Me: Imma have to fight you.

Nice video bro! Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy 9 are S rank to me also. FF7, Xenogears, FFT, Lunar, Lunar 2, and Brave Fencer Musashi are also S rank in my opinion.

(Skips ahead to see where Tales of Destiny ranks) "The encounter rate and puzzles are ridiculous" .....you know what....he's right...

FF9 in S - no more to say about my fav FF of all time.

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN PUT FF7 IN B-TIER. RAISE THE PITCHFORKS LADS!

I reccomend that you dont look at any reviews for digimon, and try digimon world 3 for yourself, its a traditional turn based rpg unlike world 1, high encounter rate but still amazing in my opinion 😁👍

You went from a content creator that I saw on my recommended list from time to time. Now you are one of my favourite content creators. Straight to the S tier list man! Keep it up!!

S tier for me is legend of dragoon personally, grew up with it and it's my favourite game of ALL TIME. Hope a remake or remaster comes out, followed by a sequel 🙏

Like the fact you are playing Front Mission 3.

Man, i dont agree with many of your choices in this video, but thats what made it interesting for me, great work Erick!

Xenogears is my personal favorite ps1 jrpg.

Man, these kind of videos are so good!

This type of video is great, Erick. I wish this would have been made around 5 years ago, when I was buying PS1 games. This would have been VERY useful to get a rough idea of which JRPGs are really worth getting for the system, or at least, seeing all of them and being able to decide if a game would be worth it or not. You have overall been very objective and fair, and this is very useful. Sadly the prices for physical copies of some of these games are through the roof, but luckily, you can play some of these in the PSN store or other methods. Out of this list, some games I am still missing to get a physical copy (that don´t cost outrageous prices): Breath of Fire IV , Koudelka, Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics and brave fencer musashi. I only have Suikoden 1 and 2 pirated copies, but those suffice to me, and I have persona and 2 on PSN. I have Valkerie Profile: Leneth of PSP. Other than that, my PS1 collection (for me) is almost complete. I managed to get all the Digimon world games, which are kind of expensive and were a pain to get.

ff7 is really good, at least an A, but I think an S. I played it again recently and theres so much work put into it, it's great. It's not over rated.

I see Xenogears in A, I still don't downvote but I'm devastated.

Wait until Erick discovers that he has to beat Front Mission 3 twice... also, I am sorry, but I can't seem to agree in so much XD

I own all of these games and I agree with a majority of your list, you should have just included all of the remaining rpg's for the PS1, there are only a few more. Shadow Madness Darkstone Chocobo Dungeon 2 Castlevania Symphony of the Night Tecmo's Deception Kagero: Deception II Deception III: Dark Delusion Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain Monkey Hero Dragon Seeds Diablo RPG Maker Master Of Monsters

Wasn't expecting Lunar on C, but still a pretty informative tier list. good video

FF9 definitely deserves a S tier what a masterpiece

Thanks for including Vanguard Bandits on your list. One of my best tactics Jrpg i played 😊. I agree to you too in the A section

FFT should be S tier. I'm very sad to hear that you didn't even beat it. It has a fantastic story and it has a darker theme that most other games I've played. Such a great story and gameplay.

How can you not love Torneko as a character? He's the consummate everyman.

Ive been messing around with the emulator pcsxr-pgxp and OMG you can make PS1 look modern. It esentially takes away all the jagged edges off 3D models. Great video BTW!

I will tell you, if Square had put as much money and effort in Xenogears as they did in their final fantasy franchise, that game would have been a freaking triple SSS tier game. The fact that it s considered to be one of the best RPG on the system, if not ever made, by a lot of people, despite that they got to deal with so many difficulties during the game creation, means so much in the balance.

ff7 would be s tier for me , nice of you to show valkyrie profile some love. Valkyrie is my favourite rpg of all time , a completely new expirience , and freyas lazyness (porting everywhere) made me laugh several times. Hope they revigorate the series in classic 2d fashion.. And lot of thanks to you an your channel , found many great rpg on different systems through your lists . One gripe though , sand of destruction ist quite a mess of a game , the battle system espacially , keep up the great work sir. Greetings from a dutch guy

Star Ocean 2 is my favorite of the system. The design and music is so dreamful, the gameplay is great, the characters are amazing and this is one of the fue rpgs you will enjoy playing it twice. I also like the endgame, when you are totally overpowered. Sadly, no other SO release could be nearly as good, even if I like the first and third game (SO4 was average and SO5 felt like they should make a game with few resources in a short amount of time). Not in your list was Blaze and Blade. Not a particulour good game, but we had fun in playing this together.

Beautiful video. Please do a PSP one next!

Hey Erick You used to be in my A tier as a rpg game youtuber But after seeing your recent video I decided you deserve a B tier rpg youtuber Reasons are only cuz of you putting final fantasy 10 in B tier Final fantasy 10 was one of the best and first fully voiced and fully 3d rendered And almost 52 best cgi scenes And one of the best story plus secret ending Along with best fight and summoning of that time SORRY ERICK U JUST KILLED THE RESPECT U GOT FROM ME YOU ARE A ( B) TEER ( TIER ) FOR ME

I see Valkyrie Profile in S tier Ill give automatic thumbs up!

I still don't know what about Alundra makes it an RPG. I'll admit, I haven't played it myself, but it looks every bit like a Zelda clone. Maybe it's like Illusion of Gaia, in which you increase your stats without receiving experience points?

I've never even had a PS1 and I still enjoyed this video so much.

Wild that you got to over ten entries before going below C, even with you not liking a couple as much as some people. PS1 really was the rpg king.

Some I agree, some I disagree, but having Suikoden 2 in the S-tier gains a thumbs up from me.

Suikoden 2 is a S for sure, but vagrant story was AWESOME.

Please make a list for ps2 as well, I like hearing your opinions!

I know this is asking a lot, given how many there are, but you should do a JRPG tier list for the PS2. PS2 had so many JRPGs, many of them being very obscure and a ton of hidden gems.

This is a great video for someone like me that didn't get to play many JRPGs on PS1 and a lot of them just flew past me. I would love to go through some of these since I feel like I missed out on quite a lot. Like I don't know who's that character on the thumbnail. Anyways, love your channel. Have been bingeing about 4 or 5 videos a day.

Bro i finished last night Xenogears so when i saw your thumbnail i had to enter, give you a like and comment 😂

Honestly, back in 1996, I would have given Beyond the Beyond a D or E ranking because it did seem terrible back then, but in retrospect it's really not that bad an RPG given it was one of the first traditional JRPG's on Playstation. It's one of those that if you play it a second or third time, it actually seems better. I would give it a C rank now.

Great video and concept! Please consider making a similar video for other consoles as well.

Ohhh hell yeah. Chrono Cross, FFIX, AND Suikoden II on the S-TIER, where they BELONG. You and me are gonna get a long just fine.

It's pretty crazy seeing a from software game in a E tier list. They've came a long way since then.

Vagrant Story for me has the same thing of the Valkyrie Profile games: i appreciate the work behind them, the settings and mechanics but i have never finished them, i often watch others playing because i stop after some time when i do myself, something doesn't push me forward. Still i would rate VS a bit higher here ;) The Shadow Tower for PS2 is quite more distinct than the original and makes more sense compared to King's Field series. I love Front Mission 3 because they got a good balance between the story and not dragging too long each map, plus i like the characters (kinda reminds me about Vandal Hearts pacing wise). The 2D one is a bit more dragged on, the PS2 ones are nice but far too slow turns wise.

tales of destiny 2 really shines when you play with friends , it become so much more fun to battle .

Pretty good list. Though I'd have put the Lunar's and FF7 in S tier. From what I understand, Lunar's are one of the most beloved franchises. As for FF7, it changed the RPG landscape.

i cannot argue the S list at all. the A list was pretty good games. so many great games on the PS1 :)

I always appreciate things like this, because every once in while you’ll see a game you never heard of or played before and get introduced to a old new game. For me that would be Valkyrie profile and the suikoden games. They look real fun just stupid expensive.

Hey Erick do you have a switch yet?! It’s become an amazing console for the genre and I love to see you cover it!

I knew this is going to be a bloodbath in both the rankings and the reaction 😂. but the thing about the PS1 era was that, even the ones you ranked from C and below are still amazing games.

I've never disagreed stronger with anything on KZfaq 😅 We clearly share nothing in matters of taste... Still, respecting your choices, as wrong as they are 😁

FF9 S tier I see you're a man of culture as well

Currently playing through Xenogears for the first time and this list will help me go through my old school jrpg cravings.

Since you didn’t play them I understand how the digimon games can be easily overlooked as cashing in on the franchise. You’d be correct if it came to the first one which is a very uninspired trash game. But digimon 2 is basically a mix of Jade Coccon and SMT games. The story isn’t anything to write home about but the fighting mechanics added so much depth that I didn’t want to even progress the story instead just wanted to keep fighting and mixing to try to get the best monster I could. Part 3 is the best looking and it’s the most straight forward in the series but aside from the better production values it also has the best story and it doesn’t overstay its welcome since it’s fairly short at 15-20 hours. It was also the one that fans of the show would gravitate the most since it did a great job of translating the visuals and feel of the series to a game. So I’d rank them 2,3 and then very far back 1.

Puts FFT (my favorite game of all time mind you) in B tier okay 2 can play that game thats why I put chrono cross in A tier now we are even

I thought we had similar tastes...I was very wrong. Final Fantasy VII was such an important game that it deserves to be in the S Tier. It changed the entire gaming industry for the better. Before VII became a cultural phenomenon gamers were viewed by the entertainment industry as less than. Gamers were seen as nothing more than basement dwelling trolls that hid from sunlight. Final Fantasy VII changed that overnight. It was edgy, adult, and extremely well written. Final Fantasy VII legitimized the entire industry in one fail swoop. I know because I lived it. People from all walks of life clamored for FFVII... I was a casual player during the late 1980's and became a hardcore player when the Genesis launched in 1989. My first Final Fantasy game was FFIII (Japanese VI) for the Snes in...I want to say 1994. I played it on a whim and could not put it down. I got Final Fantasy VII and the guidebook the day it dropped. Final Fantasy VII turned me into an JRPG fan for life. While I agree with your assessment of Final Fantasy VIII...that is where our take on this genre deviates dramatically. Final Fantasy IX is not what I would call an S Tier game. I would place it somewhere in the C Tier as it's functional but not great. Final Fantasy Tactics and Ogre Tactics both belong in the S Tier. Ogre Tactics was so amazing I would place it even higher than Final Fantasy Tactics...maybe an S+ Tier. This is where I would place Suikoden 2, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and Xenogears (S+) as they are bar none the best JRPG's that have ever existed (SOTN is an action JRPG so it belongs). After Final Fantasy VII, the series took a major tumble. I nearly walked away from the entire series completely. Thankfully, Squaresoft returned Final Fantasy to form with the amazing FF X. Finally, Crono Cross is another title that I feel was inferior to Crino Trigger in every way. It was a decent game but considering the time frame of its release...there were far better games available. For example, both Lunar games were available and they were simply stunning for their time. While I may vehemently disagree with you...I still very much enjoy your channel. I would be curious to see what your absolute best 32-bit JRPG is the true king in your eyes. Perhaps a 32-bit JRPG throwdown between Sega's best JRPG's vs Sony's outstanding JRPG lineup. Addendum- Just when I think you and I could never agree on the placement of these games you say something that truly strikes a chord with me. I have never liked Pokemon and Digimon is just a poor imitator...I don't care about either of them. ;)

FU for FF7, FU for Xenogers. It became obvious to me that the author has duckling syndrome in relation to FF9. In the future, I am no longer interested in his opinion, because it is obvious that the top is compiled exclusively on teenage impressions. For those who are older, his enthusiastic speeches about, obviously, teenage games in the top will cause a lot lmao.

Xenogears would have been SS rank had they finished it rather than truncating disk 2. I only wish that if a remake were to ever happen, that they would do it justice. Sadly, I feel it would be ruined due to political correctness...

Wild arms 1,ff7,ff8 suikoden 2 are my S. Which means i can play them over and over without getting bored

"Beyond the Beyond is trash. It is one of the worst RPGs on the system. I don't think its that bad. It's full of problem" WHAAAAT does this even mean?

Front Mission 3 is S Tier for me, amazing game! Xenogears too, one of the best rpg on the franchise!

I really like the idea behind this video and I hope you do this for other consoles as well Erick. Keep up the good work.

Would love to see a tier list of PS2 JRPGs as well

Nice to see Vandal Hearts get some recognition! That game started my love of rpgs.

Eric you should actually play Digimon World 3 because compared to every other Digimon game it's actually an RPG it has some pretty decent story although I know that the European version had stuff America didn't get so I don't know how the story ends

Legend of Dragoon was my favorite on the PS1 and I didn't notice you had its music on in the background until like 30 minutes in.

I love this! I watched you for so long and you have so much knowledge of JRPGs, it's always a pleasure to hear about your thoughts on PS1 JRPGs. Super interesting to see what you consider top tier and your knowledge of each is so amazing!

Well, I disagree strongly on a few, but it was great fun to hear the list and reasoning! What about Jade Cocoon? Found it in a pawn shop but never finished.

It's just your opinion so it can't be wrong and I'm not seriously criticizing but it seems weird that a game you loved but outgrew goes into the same rank with a game you never got into at all with Final Fantasy 7 and Final Fantasy Tactics.

I could see that what you take most into account about the game is what you feel while playing and not its qualities in itself. In some cases this is very clear, as some games could be at least 1 position up if only their unique qualities and gameplay were measured. Example: it is literally impossible for Vanguard Bandits to be superior in anything compared to Final Fantasy Tactics. We could discuss only the part of how they use a animation during Vangard's attacks, but that's about it.

I like how you said: "I don't think it's a bad game, I don't think it's a terrible game.. but I still hate it" 😂

I almost took offense at seeing SaGa Frontier in D but hey to each their own. I don't want a Xenogears remake. Just ports. It's one of those games I don't trust devs to not fuck up. And if they just remade the game as is, then not much of a reason either to have one. Still, I'm one of the people that think remasters are a waste of time and money.

You're missing Chocobo Dungeon 2, also Ehrgeiz RPG mode and Castlevania SotN.

You rank tactical rpgs way higher than straight up jrpgs. I will never understand this. In a tactical there's so many characters that you don't get to know them as intimately as you do with traditional jrpgs. I don't want to have to worry about 20 different characters. I am shocked that you put FF9 over FF7. FF9 is really good, but FF7 is the greatest JRPG of all time IMO. The emotion, the music, the side games, the materia system, the characters, grabs you from the very beginning. Best game ever! Also, such low scores for Lunar and Dragon Warrior? Come on! Those are some of the best games in the entire genre!

Interesting video. I think the majority of your B ratings and C ratings should be shifted up a letter because a lot of these are just incredible. PSX was a JRPG goldmine.

Brigandine that release on global lack 1 thing... story... 2nd lack is battle mechanism... it's hard The unreleased brigandine is better... but still lack of story XD So yeah i agree with erick... global brigandine is c... but unreleased brigandine should be b is max

the only ministory in saga frontier that i thought was confusing for how to progress was red's near the end before you get to the final dungeon. if you want weird progression, try older stuff like FF2 and romancing saga 3. or how about ff12 i got stuck on that one really fast.

Digimon world 2 was way better than the 1st to me, but I see why you wouldn’t like it. Cyber sleuth is pretty awesome in my opinion. I’m a digifan so I might be a little biased lol

Absolute make a list like this from other consoles! I'd love to see vita, ds, 3ds etc

Koudelka C tier IM TRIGGERED

A lot of this guy's opinions are almost reflective of recent blog posts. If they put FF2 as the greatest JRPG of all time, he'd probably agree. These kinds of criteria should be taken into account when judging a JRPG: storyline, decent twists, character development, character design, battle system, quality of sidequests, etc. But arguments tantamount to "This JRPG is S/A/B tier because XYZ is my favorite protagonist" is kind of lame and defeats the purpose of comparisons in the first place.

This channel F'ING rocks.... love the passion for RPGs. I am still new to the genre... played a few. Love xenoblade chronicles 2 and suikoden 2. I had to pick up chrono cross. You spent no time on it.... your favorite. Playing now. Can't wait to know what you know. Thanks and keep ROCKING!

I liked the Playstation versions of the Lunar games but I like the Sega CD versions better because those were the original editions and I have both games on Sega CD.

So surprised that you put ff tactics and ff vii in B tier, but is fine, i really appreciate your honesty. Also, i discover you channel yesterday and i love your content!

His talk about Front Mission 3 was quite relatable. My first time playing Doom was on the GameBoy Advance version.

You missed a few I’ve got sitting in my basement off the top of my head...Shadow Madness and Monkey Hero.

Ahhhhh DOMINA... Music to my nostalgic ears.

Great video! but I think you missed Dragon Seeds.

Would love to see the tier list for ps2 jrpgs, to this day, ps2 had the best jrpgs which is fun to play even now. Actually in jrpg's world nothing changed much from ps2 times, i would even say, they've become worse.

Wonder how ps2 and SNES jrpg tier list going look like

Dude, Megaman Legends should be so much higher. That game was way ahead of its time and I dare you to find a 3D game that holds up better graphically from the PS1 catalogue.

Looking forward to this list. I’ve been working on the ps one collection for some time and just added megaman legends 2 to it. My collection is finally at a point where I have more ps1 games than I need to collect :). Still need a lot though lol. Love your content man.

Nice Elly Artwork

Thanks for the video. This was was a fun idea. :)