RANKING THE BEST GREEN CARDS IN cEDH

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Dylan and Cam discuss the best Green cards in cEDH and rank them!
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@TeamSprocket
@TeamSprocket Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the upcoming videos for each of the 27 color combos individually! Infinite content!
@DHDaegor
@DHDaegor Ай бұрын
10:24 - Just so people know, if you cast Mana Drain on a spell that can't be countered, Mana Drain still resolves and you will still get the mana on your next main phase. The mana is not contingent on successfully countering the spell. i.e. a spell that can't be countered is not an illegal target for a counterspell, so it doesn't fizzle.
@diggerdog9205
@diggerdog9205 Ай бұрын
Wow! Never realized
@arturstasienko2234
@arturstasienko2234 Ай бұрын
One ring is also a legendary spell for delighted hailing.
@Lucas-alt-
@Lucas-alt- Ай бұрын
Congrats to Bowmaster for appearing in 5 episodes in a row👑
@josephkoepke1251
@josephkoepke1251 Ай бұрын
Cam reads veil of summer off like he’s advertising princesses to lord farquad in shrek.
@freerunner1953
@freerunner1953 Ай бұрын
Bro I read this comment on a public toilet and laughed out loud
@JimNightblade1
@JimNightblade1 Ай бұрын
@@freerunner1953 bro I was reading this comment while in the stall next to someone laughing. Was that you?
@skylarthoma5353
@skylarthoma5353 Ай бұрын
Did yall forget Birthing Pod and Vivien? Dylan mentioned it during Delighted Halfling, and I’m pretty sure he thinks they don’t suck 😂
@jacob510
@jacob510 Ай бұрын
Not that it makes Finale worse, I've seen too many people dump a million mana into it, swing out thinking it gives trample just to realize people can chump their creatures
@PlaytoWinMTG
@PlaytoWinMTG Ай бұрын
OOF! Yeah, just gives haste, not trample, gotta play the rest of your creatures with your infinite mana first!
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 Ай бұрын
Gotta have a trampler to fetch with it...
@damo9961
@damo9961 Ай бұрын
@@joshholmes1372 Yeah because a trampler to take out one player is exactly what you want to be tutoring for. My vanilla trampler sure is good in this limited format.
@jasonlevesque6340
@jasonlevesque6340 Ай бұрын
​@damo9961 Ideally you can tutor for Cratorhoof. That's probably the most found card with Finale.
@jacob510
@jacob510 Ай бұрын
@@jasonlevesque6340 not in cEDH, at least not in one I've been in or seen. But hoof would be a decent target otherwise
@lits2722
@lits2722 Ай бұрын
I know a lot of people dont think legolas's quick reflexes is good enough in najeela, because you have access to counterspells, but after playtesting it a ton its an auto include in that deck for me. The uninteractable protection is so good, alongside taking extra combat steps to remove multiple things. I've also looped it with underworld breach and dorks with 1 power to kill stax creatures to go off. It has never felt dead to me but to each their own!
@davidblackwell3326
@davidblackwell3326 Ай бұрын
You should do a video where you rank all the fives (and sixes) from each of the ranking videos against each other
@OceansTempest
@OceansTempest Ай бұрын
You guys are my fav content creators by far 👊🏼
@ubberJakerz
@ubberJakerz Ай бұрын
I swear Sylvan Library is underrated... I know it's rough when it feels like you're constantly seeing the same cards with the ability, but that's why you use deck shufflers strategically like fetch lands and such.
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh Ай бұрын
It totally is. In a faster deck that has no ways to abuse the one ring I would play library over the ring I think.. well, I did actually in my Malcolm Tana list.
@man_zeus3817
@man_zeus3817 Ай бұрын
For Bloom Tender it is ESSENTIAL in Sisay which is definitely one of the TOP decks currently in the format. I think that alone should push it over the Mana Dorks at minimum.
@jessepurdy6950
@jessepurdy6950 Ай бұрын
Yeah I play it in my Tayam deck and its very good.
@Revival_JamZ
@Revival_JamZ Ай бұрын
and derevi, najeela and likely most decks that have wubrg activation costs
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu Ай бұрын
@@Revival_JamZ Najeela doesn't want it since you activate only if you have infinites and you can do that already with Druid's Repository, Grim Hireling and Derevi
@gaugeth
@gaugeth Ай бұрын
I cant get enough of these. Ya'll have quickly become my favorite MTG channels and one my favorites channels period. Keep doing what you guys do!
@CarmenPontello-xu6th
@CarmenPontello-xu6th Ай бұрын
Dude I just had that Vivian scenario the other day. Atraxa had a force of neg for it but I casted it with halfling. So good
@voidprism_studios666
@voidprism_studios666 Ай бұрын
When I see a new play2win video, I get a boost in serotonin
@iman132394
@iman132394 Ай бұрын
If someone drops a mystical elf from yugioh and claims its a mana dork, we might have a problem.
@toctheyounger
@toctheyounger Ай бұрын
Holy shit, Cam got First Sliver Food Chain right first time! Nice work.
@cyberphoniex7529
@cyberphoniex7529 Ай бұрын
The boys I can not emphasize this enough are back in town. Also yee and most importantly haw
@aRFav713
@aRFav713 Ай бұрын
Sylvan Library is the OG for me, and while it's definitely gotten outclassed, it's still in every deck I play. I wish Green would get some sort of card advantage engine in the form of "Whenever a player does ___, you may draw a card." (not Runic Armasaur).
@matthewjohnson3656
@matthewjohnson3656 Ай бұрын
There that one elk
@eduardomendez7573
@eduardomendez7573 Ай бұрын
100% would recommend viridian revel!
@aRFav713
@aRFav713 Ай бұрын
@@eduardomendez7573 sick, thanks. For a dockside/treasure heavy meta, yeah that's nice. Thanks 🤘🏻
@amaraleksandr2645
@amaraleksandr2645 Ай бұрын
@@eduardomendez7573awesome suggestion. How has it worked for you?
@kennethpolsky8369
@kennethpolsky8369 Ай бұрын
Compost
@Alikaakui808
@Alikaakui808 Ай бұрын
I love Dylan’s shirt!!!! PS- can you do a colorless and multicolor episode on this as well please 🙏
@metalplaysgames
@metalplaysgames Ай бұрын
love the carpet of flowers part lol
@GOOMBAHx
@GOOMBAHx Ай бұрын
FINALLYYYYY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO
@Mana_Cryptid
@Mana_Cryptid Ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting WEEKS for the green video let’s gooooo
@Josephhof
@Josephhof Ай бұрын
Me playing lathril watching this deck, but the reference of use for these cards is never a green focused deck lol, Sick video! loved learning some new cards to add to my commander
@FishyKoi
@FishyKoi Ай бұрын
Agreed that green is the weakest color in cEDH right now.
@oscarperezcame
@oscarperezcame Ай бұрын
Sadly, that's true
@alainlamour5868
@alainlamour5868 Ай бұрын
There are some things that green does that are under utilized imo. The ability to make your spells uncounterable should probably be more explored in cEDH. Cards like vexing shusher, destiny spinner and veil of summer can win you games similarly to grand Abolisher
@sammead7911
@sammead7911 Ай бұрын
I have such a surface level understanding of Magic, and so much of this goes over my head, but I really enjoy this show
@sapowok8992
@sapowok8992 Ай бұрын
Cool video guys love your content. So now we waiting on the best cards for CEDH that are colorless?
@ghost64626
@ghost64626 Ай бұрын
I know it's more of a meme deck right now, but Seedborn Muse is NUTS in Kadena morphs. She plays as many ways to cast creatures at flash speed as possible
@PlaytoWinMTG
@PlaytoWinMTG Ай бұрын
I've heard this deck might actually be something
@ghost64626
@ghost64626 Ай бұрын
@@PlaytoWinMTG it won a tournament recently. However, a major factor is most likely the "new deck what do" thing. Similar to Slicer and Liberator
@hydra1259
@hydra1259 Ай бұрын
Bloom tender combo-ing with Kenrith is really nice
@hydra1259
@hydra1259 Ай бұрын
Also kenny’s +1 counter ability helps deal with bowmasters
@AresVishnu
@AresVishnu Ай бұрын
Nice Yugioh reference with Mystical Elf lol
@towelociraptor
@towelociraptor Ай бұрын
Idk I think mystical elf would be a great card in cedh. It has 0 mana cost and is an 800/2000 because it's from Yu-Gi-Oh 😂
@hamburg2488
@hamburg2488 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@fitnesshunter6302
@fitnesshunter6302 Ай бұрын
It also has haste as long on its not your first turn and your going first!
@Bafflementation
@Bafflementation Ай бұрын
I'd have included Survival of the Fittest in the discussion, it's still a card that wins the game if it stays in play for a round or so.
@taylorchamplin379
@taylorchamplin379 Ай бұрын
I’m still pretty high on sylvan. It makes the cut in my kenrith list. I run mastermind, ledger shredder, and sylvan as card advantage 2 drops. I’ve found that sylvan outperforms archivist of oghma on average so I run it instead. I try and optimize so I have turn 1 or 2 card advantage in every hand. Also delighted halfling is a dud for Kenrith. Your etali example is peak halfling value but a lot of decks are starved for color pips and I just don’t think summoning sick colorless is good when a lot of the most powerful cards aren’t legendary. It got the cut.
@sampete4638
@sampete4638 Ай бұрын
For the Invasion of Ikoria negatives, not getting grand abolisher was one, but are you able to get the new Kutzil card to get a similar effect??
@Vagrantlol
@Vagrantlol Ай бұрын
delighted halfing giving your One Ring uncounterable is also a pretty strong bit of utility, people don't counter it often but I'd still say it happens enough to keep in mind.
@salomdi
@salomdi Ай бұрын
The 1 mana dorks were mentioned, but not utopia sprawl or wild growth, which can go mana neutral on the turn you play them. Are they notably worse than the dorks thanks to feeding dockside or the restrictions on them?
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 Ай бұрын
Green is still top tier if your deck can utilize all those creature tutors straight into battlefield to win. It’s what makes thrasio decks so good. People are sleeping on green
@Tryc3
@Tryc3 Ай бұрын
Thank you guys
@midnalight6419
@midnalight6419 Ай бұрын
Library is still a good rate. Yeah it sucks the first turn, but by the second turn, 2 mana for 3-4 cards is very good And by the time it's 6 it's faster than one ring draws
@Dafins100
@Dafins100 Ай бұрын
You guys need more Sisay players in your life. It’s the one deck where you consistently miss cards for.
@peteryankowsky
@peteryankowsky Ай бұрын
The one that lets my homie stay in the US is my favorite.
@supermassivi1995
@supermassivi1995 Ай бұрын
100% on the dorks, I'm not playing the green dorks that only generate 1 color in my Rocco deck cuz of bowmasters, the dorks that are in the deck still are able to generate more colors like Birds and Arbor Elf(added benefit that I'm playing Yavimaya), have extra utility like Delighted Halfling or can generate more mana like Bloom Tender, Fae-burrow and Orcish Lumberjack
@rhapidz_9910
@rhapidz_9910 Ай бұрын
In all honesty I play sliver overlord, and I wouldn’t consider my deck a cEDH but more of a high power and I can say that seedborn muse is something that has helped me so much and is very useful, great video by the way guys have learned a lot from you all!!
@rhapidz_9910
@rhapidz_9910 Ай бұрын
I’m a few months into magic and again I’ve learned a lot from you all and from both of you if you all had any tips to be a better control player and even a better way to pilot the deck I’d really appreciate it!!
@jonathonskogman8337
@jonathonskogman8337 Ай бұрын
I also recently replaced my collector ouphe for manglehorn in my gitrog deck.
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg Ай бұрын
In kenrith you always have somewhere to put the mana if you dont want to cast any spells.
@mgmed0368
@mgmed0368 Ай бұрын
I like bloom tender as a combo piece in rocco
@connorsheffield6576
@connorsheffield6576 Ай бұрын
Cam is a national treasure, I love the commentary but come back to these for Cam. Dylan is great too
@krasimirpetrov1534
@krasimirpetrov1534 Ай бұрын
Bloom Tender is one of the most important cards in sisay which is arguably one of the more popular and strong decks right now in the meta, but the card is otherwise unplayable in other decks
@jessepurdy6950
@jessepurdy6950 Ай бұрын
Its still strong and worth playing in Tayam.
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA Ай бұрын
@@jessepurdy6950 facts.
@nickschmucker8836
@nickschmucker8836 Ай бұрын
As a mono-green player (Marwyn) I find it funny all of the places where I disagree with this list. I think this list is pretty accurate for overall cEDH but it differs wildly from how I would rate cards for my deck
@arrivtuber
@arrivtuber Ай бұрын
I remember when I was able to play collector ouphe turn 1 off my gem stone caverns and thought with my dorks I'm gonna be able to get so far ahead. 6 turns later all my dorks were wiped and I was sitting there with sisay 23 treasures and an ouphe. The entire table was actually keeping him alive against everything I did to try and get rid of him. I cut him afterwards
@aaronwindham6065
@aaronwindham6065 Ай бұрын
Do you think you guys could do an artifact and a land version? I guess colorless would do too, but it would pretty much be artifacts
@alanschellenberger9356
@alanschellenberger9356 Ай бұрын
For what it's worth, bloom tender is absolutely a staple for Sisay and that deck is really strong right now
@ubberJakerz
@ubberJakerz Ай бұрын
One of my favorite things to do with crop rotation is instant speed bujoka bog 🤣
@dasfabelwesen
@dasfabelwesen Ай бұрын
noxious revival has been such good interaction for me, while being great as recursion at the same time. In my opinion it is on the level of mental misstep. Worldly tutor however is just good enough for me when it can find dockside. I would put it under bloomtender.
@rcalebvines
@rcalebvines Ай бұрын
holiday world shirt sighting! going this summer
@njmaloney25
@njmaloney25 Ай бұрын
Huh never thought about it but veil of summer turns off ward costs for you for the turn as well
@Xyvre
@Xyvre Ай бұрын
Unironically Legolas's quick reflexes is great in Najeela. The two biggest problems she has is getting removed, and your opponents all having creatures to stop you from snowballing. It just handles both really well. I'm not saying it's a staple, but I think it at least has a home in one of the top decks.
@lukaskramer1121
@lukaskramer1121 Ай бұрын
What do you think about force of vigor?
@Rondez
@Rondez Ай бұрын
1:20 What do you think can be done to make using mana dorks more efficient in low-color green decks?
@Jhihadi
@Jhihadi 22 күн бұрын
I love invasion of ikoria in my yarok deck. Finding two combopieces for just one cost is insane
@andrewcass5445
@andrewcass5445 Ай бұрын
23:52 Underworldly Tutor? hehe
@jonathonskogman8337
@jonathonskogman8337 Ай бұрын
I have flipped invasion of ikoria in my gitrog deck many times.
@Remedy_X
@Remedy_X Ай бұрын
I play Kinnan and noxious revival has been really good in response to my brothers fetch land I put Savian's reclamation on top of his library ibknow it's not the main use but it comes up more than u would think but sometimes the person using it doesn't think about it that way
@saintvivecwarpoet
@saintvivecwarpoet Ай бұрын
Some decks do like a mana source that can also punch people, dorks are still great. Can't draw Tymna cards off of an arcane signet.
@Highwang
@Highwang Ай бұрын
8:30 anytime I play Magus Lucea Kane in casual pods I always live in dread of the Bowmaster just ruining my plans
@johngioia2813
@johngioia2813 Ай бұрын
You guys gonna do best multi color spells? Colorless/artifact? Lands?
@hugi_tout
@hugi_tout Ай бұрын
Good break down, not sure about Eldritch Evolution being that high as having a creature to sac is an inherent cost (you said as much for crop rot). No GSZ or Sylvan Tutor rating 😢
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 Ай бұрын
If evolution resolves you pretty much win the game 99% of the time because you should be sacking your commander for horror
@FALL3NW0RLD
@FALL3NW0RLD Ай бұрын
Legolas's Quick Reflexes home is Marwyn
@obsidiansiriusblackheart
@obsidiansiriusblackheart Ай бұрын
Please do a podcast series of "win cons per colour" eg that On The Hunt planeswalker, how do you win with that??
@ChuggaChoo
@ChuggaChoo Ай бұрын
Legolas' Quick Reflexes fits perfectly in Codie
@wilso356
@wilso356 Ай бұрын
That holiday world shirt 🔥🔥
@hellproof2379
@hellproof2379 Ай бұрын
Ever think about how your scale is really a 0-50 you just throw a decimal in lol.
@BVBridesifyer
@BVBridesifyer Ай бұрын
I mean with that logic yeah, every number is just another number divisible or multiplied by 10
@slimeproject2868
@slimeproject2868 Ай бұрын
I really wanna see you guys try Berserk in a deck, I still think it's underrated.
@sharkmanyt4431
@sharkmanyt4431 Ай бұрын
You guys gonna do best colorless cards?
@_j.a.t.e_
@_j.a.t.e_ Ай бұрын
And what about root maze? Would like to get your take on it
@learntolikeit
@learntolikeit Ай бұрын
Aphetto Alchemist + Legolas's Quick Reflexes and you can ping all the creatures to death on the board that you can target.
@heboriklehkoruky9218
@heboriklehkoruky9218 Ай бұрын
How?🤔
@learntolikeit
@learntolikeit Ай бұрын
@@heboriklehkoruky9218 You target the untap ability to aphetto itself as you tap it and since it becomes tapped it deals 1 damage to target creature. You repeat this process until you ping everything off the board you want. This of course you need 1 turn cycle with aphetto onboard due to summon sickness and since it gains hexproof nobody can remove the creature with target removal.
@fosterdawson7339
@fosterdawson7339 Ай бұрын
​@@heboriklehkoruky9218alchemist can untap itself with its tap effect, and quick reflexes has the creature deal its power in damage whenever it's tapped to a creature
@sambrown9475
@sambrown9475 Ай бұрын
Eldritch Evolution is one of my favorite cards in marwyn. But Orcish bowmasters has been rough on my girl😅
@jasonandrews1770
@jasonandrews1770 13 күн бұрын
Greens biggest problem is that all their play styles play through creatures and combat wins, which having to play on board is just so much weaker than spellslinging
@TheHive616
@TheHive616 Ай бұрын
I'm surprised Mirri's Guile never took off as a cheaper alternative to Sylvan Library.
@eastonbranson5585
@eastonbranson5585 Ай бұрын
Although i do run into bowmaster as a kinnan pilot i feel like it feels just as bad to be feeding dockside or running into a collector ouphe so they might be judging dorks a little harshly
@psythe6095
@psythe6095 Ай бұрын
Also not that it comes up a lot but if you flip etali and flip battle of ikoria it’s a one shot because of the poison counters. I have actually killed someone this way it was pretty funny
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh Ай бұрын
Yo! I haven’t watched this since yesterday and it only just occurred to me so maybe I’m wrong??? Did you forget about Survival of the Fittest? I would have that on my list of top 10 green cards for sure. What about Birthing pod? Maybe worth a mention. Selvala is a little bit niche but, I mean she’s a little niche but she’s completely busted in the decks that want her and likely the colors best commander. Maybe I just need to watch again., I’m going to. Surely you would have had Survival of the fittest somewhere in the discussion? Unless you simply forgot 🤷‍♂️ It happens.. Namaste homies 🖖
@w.s6124
@w.s6124 Ай бұрын
archdruids charm?
@yehanediriweera2052
@yehanediriweera2052 Ай бұрын
PTW, what is ur opinion on Archdruid's Charm
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite Ай бұрын
Amazing card, less useful in some places than others, worse than Eldritch Evolution, better than Sylvan Library imo.
@Naren25
@Naren25 Ай бұрын
The problem with Ouphe is that most good green decks need artifacts too e.g. Kinnan
@frenchgamerabroad7235
@frenchgamerabroad7235 Ай бұрын
46:14 can anyone eli5 the interaction he describes? I can’t seem to comprehend how you can loop this via the evoke?!
@CortanaX
@CortanaX Ай бұрын
Seedbornmuse is quite nice if you have the one ring aswell
@SundayBbq4786
@SundayBbq4786 Ай бұрын
Does Legolas's Quick Reflexes make Codie good again?
@josephkoepke1251
@josephkoepke1251 Ай бұрын
Sisay loves Bloom Tender
@angelgaming287
@angelgaming287 Ай бұрын
So are you guys gonna talk about multi colors?? Like best rakdos best Selesnya?
@shanehoule7125
@shanehoule7125 Ай бұрын
Is survival of the fittest not playable anymore?
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite Ай бұрын
Bro that's a wild thought. I'm still on it, but jeez, it is a bit rough sometimes.
@stormtrooperjeepjk
@stormtrooperjeepjk Ай бұрын
Does manglegorn tapping the one ring put a burden. Counter on?
@nathanmcduck2999
@nathanmcduck2999 Ай бұрын
No
@stormtrooperjeepjk
@stormtrooperjeepjk Ай бұрын
@@nathanmcduck2999 this was just a thought thanks for the info here
@joshbaker8767
@joshbaker8767 Ай бұрын
Force of Vigor didn't make the list?!
@groover1der
@groover1der Ай бұрын
18:05 Cam: Follow it up with mana on your second "MAN" phase. LOL
@parasite2earth446
@parasite2earth446 Ай бұрын
Does cEDH work different than casual? Just curious how green is in etali decks? Newer player here
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 Ай бұрын
Be more specific
@parasite2earth446
@parasite2earth446 Ай бұрын
@@koreyg8552 I thought you could only use cards with the same colors in the their color identity
@parasite2earth446
@parasite2earth446 Ай бұрын
@@koreyg8552 okay never mind I never noticed the flip side of Primal Conqueror had green on it that’s neat
@damo9961
@damo9961 Ай бұрын
We need some 1 mana green artifact Sol Rings
@brysonholdeman9241
@brysonholdeman9241 Ай бұрын
Legalos in Jegantha is clutch
@heirophantpm
@heirophantpm Ай бұрын
didn't read the comments but re: Veil of Summer, Tayam doesn't always run it! not a 5.0 😆
@heirkaiba
@heirkaiba Ай бұрын
I used to a big Sultai player. Now I cut the green for white or red. It so bad now lol.
@jonlamoreaux2228
@jonlamoreaux2228 Ай бұрын
Does Tyler's kinnan list still play pemmins aura and freed from the real?
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