After Carlos’s death my boss wore a copy his chain the rest of the game

"These ho's ain't ho's!" - Pierce Washington, 2011

It’s interesting that the Ronin are technically still around as only the American branch was taken out

The revenge kills in 2 are fucking brutal and are absolutely the stuff of great crime drama that even GTA needed to learn from

Carlos death was a hard thing to see still today.

Also glad we agree shogo's death is the best dark moment the series has

Saints row needs to go back to the hood roots

Pierce Washington saying "These hoes ain't hoes!", is still one of my favorite lines in a video game.

The brotherhood had great conflict with the saints as you pointed out. They kill Carlos we make their leader kill his own girlfriend without knowing. Plus the fact he tried to make a deal with the saints by meeting them alone. That on his part was a brave move but if he wasn't too greedy with the numbers he probably could have been able to make a deal work.

The Samedi are my favourites simply because Mr. Sunshine is a brilliant villain, and completely terrifying

To me the gangs from SR2 were the best. Each of them had distinct style, memorable and charismatic leaders as well as some of the best moments in all of the series. Well, maybe Sons of Samedi sucked a bit but only due to being outshined by the impact of Ronins and Brotherhood on Saints.

Huge saints row fan, loved this vid.

That one Ronin jumping backward off the couch and landing silently in a somersault has been in my mind for a decade

I have to say that the Saints at the end of SR1 have THE BEST DRIP in the franchise. Look at the SR1 good ending, in the church they had purple and pink scarfs and bandanas and gold chains and white shell toed adidas on. It really captured that mid 2000s dress style vibe. Also on a deeper level I feel they become bigger versions of the Vice Kings. And one thing that I believe helped the Saints prevail through the first 2 games is their Strength in Numbers philosophy. Notice the VKs mostly had black and white dudes and gals, Carnales had mostly Hispanic and a bit white, Rollerz had mostly white and Asian and the Saints had all racial and ethnic demographics. And most originated from the Row. I also find it interesting the King stated “it’s a shame Julius got to you first” knowing he’d gladly choose a disciple for the Kings who actually listens and knows when to be quiet, unlike Warren. Makes me wonder about the storyline if the VK member had recruited you instead of trying to kill you in the intro cutscene shootout.

Thinking about it, they made the ridiculous activities to take off from how dark the plot is, some scenes like Jessica’s death are incredibly dark

I agree with this 95%, I'd go with Brotherhood and Ronin swaped,I personally like the Ronin more, both are definitely amazing gangs.

That Ben King scene at the beginning, one of my favorite parts of Saints Row 1 RIP Michael Clarke Duncan

SR1: VK SR2: The Ronin SR3: The Morning Star

the "gang" missions in saints row 3 are so unmemorable, i cant even remember the majority of the game after playing it several times when it was released

I personally like Matt Miller's character going from Leader of the Deckers to MI6 to joining the Saints in SR4 really shows that Matt Miller is actually a good guy at heart

And a known fact, Donnie was in the first game as one of the Rollerz.

Imagine if the brotherhood and Saints actually worked together

I never looked at it all this way! But I need to make my own personal list. 9) Westside Rollerz. Besides the death of Lin, which remains memorable to me because Zombie Lin is canon, they're just a bunch of wannabe gangsters whose leader is dumb muscle -- literally. And he's a coward for acting like he wanted to fight The Boss, but just runs in a truck while throwing pipe bombs. Oh, and my theory as to the mysterious overseas deal they were going to make: The Syndicate. Maybe they weren't as big during this time, or were just looking for other gangs to add to their organization, I don't know. Sharp and Loren would've probably been good friends, though. Interestingly, Sharp drives a Justice, and a Justice is a gang car of the Morningstar. Without Sharp, eh, this gang isn't much, territory, muscle, and otherwise. 8) Deckers. I personally didn't find their missions all that fun, but Kinzie and Matt's rivalry is very entertaining, the funniest instance when the Deckers embarrass STAG by overpowering them at their own PR center, and they're arguing over intercom during the fight. They would've been higher on my list if the Saints didn't have the mind of Kinzie. She's the equalizer that makes it more of a breeze. The specialists are an exceptional challenge, and I love throwing Fart in a Jar at them and and shooting them down while they're vomiting. It creates a hilarious outcome. 7) Luchadores. They made the game feel like some sort of Batman game, and Steelport feel like Gotham, though it's kind of already comparable to Gotham due to its atmosphere and crime. I love Killbane's affinity for Ancient Greece, notable in his dialogue and how the specialists dress. They are fun to mingle with, and their storyline equally so, despite their placement on my list. 6) Morningstar. I'm gonna be honest, I feel like they've existed since the first game, as mentioned with my theory of the Rollerz possibly making a deal with them. I also think the Brotherhood were dealing with them in their Wardill stronghold, as Shaundi mentions some "scary Eurotrash dudes" they were dealing with, which involved "serious money", her exact words. The Morningstar are not only large, but also known for their greed. Every time I do this stronghold, I search for evidence to confirm the theory, but don't come up with much, as the guys in suits outside the hangar aren't donning the gang's colors, and their vehicles' colors being randomized. They made the game feel like a classic action movie, but with elements you'd see in one of Batman's enemy factions, like the cloning of Oleg. 5) Ronin. Hard to say their story isn't memorable, because it is. Aisha's actual death, and the fact they're divided, which led to their fall. As I always say, Shogo knew how to run it as an American gang, while his father wanted it to be traditional. This is where his father goofed in trying to go against the Saints; the Saints lack the honor of a more organized faction, notably when The Boss shoots Kazuo after the katana duel. After Aisha's death and Johnny being injured, there was no way they could've escaped the wrath of the Saints. Shogo's death can't go unmentioned either; I like dressing my Boss in a suit and black flasher/trench coat and fedora in this mission to make it all the more gritty. Coupled with Johnny's pinstripe suit, it definitely feels like the Saints are a Mafia at this point. But that's just me. 4) Sons of Samedi. Also my favorite Saints Row 2 gang! I'm gonna be a hypocrite here and say it's like the Ballas versus Families, due to their colors, of course. What's interesting is that the Saints were originally green, so imagine a crazy reality where the Sons' and Saints' colors were swapped. Anyway, they have the most fun missions and strongholds, and it's never a dull moment. I even like dressing my Boss as Scarface during Bad Trip, because to me, it's very Scarface-like. Through them, magic is also confirmed to exist in this series, the best example being Mr. Sunshine's voodoo doll. And need I really mention how much I love Shaundi? And don't most of us miss when she was like this. She and Boss switched personalities between the second and third game. Partly Johnny's death, but partly... she was kind of always a certain way. But it's a discussion for another time. 3) Vice Kings. They were around for 30-some years. Although it's not exactly surprising they're as fierce and territorial as any other Saints Row gang, there's just a lot of reasons why I'm ranking them so high. Their style, their story, their main members... all of it just stands out and left a huge impact, not just on me, but Cyrus says they were mentioned when coining STAG. Looking back, I can see why STAG was created, and their presence isn't that strange to me; the Vice Kings were fierce on a whole other level, in addition to Ben King and Julius having history. I can only imagine what a prequel would be like, one set in the '70s when they were new and taking on the Carnales. And I love gawking at their worn-out tags in Saints Row 2, a reminder of their legacy. And gotta love that scene when they all turn on Ben King. When I first played the game, I was shocked. Ben was a true leader and ran the gang kind of like a mob, believing -- knowing, actually -- that true power came from being tight with the police and politicians. Many members didn't like Tanya taking power, which I heard a VK gang girl say in-game. Ben was also left alive, so that was all the more memorable. 2) Carnales. Older than the Vice Kings, and as Julius said, "there's a reason they're still around", as well as being the first organized gang in Stilwater. Their brutality in the past is the subject of many stories, one that sticks out being the brothers' father. Manuel says that he was no-bullshit, and given Hector's defensiveness, my guess? He was a very bad man, possibly worse than anything we've seen on-screen, and that's saying something. Everything about them sticks out to me -- their style, their tactics, their brute force, and their enforcer Victor. Victor has superhuman durability, more or less confirmed, as he survived his Bulldog explosion with everything intact, notably shocking Julius. And who'll forget that sick, yet hilarious, scene of Troy lighting a cigarette over his burning corpse. I've ranked them so high because of how brutal and territorial they are, making it a very common habit to carry RPGs. I find their missions and strongholds to be stressful for that reason alone. 1) Brotherhood. They basically splintered from the Carnales, and the proof is solid. They occupy the same territory, Victor and Maero were friends, many Carnales were said to have joined up with the Brotherhood, 'Carnales' means 'brothers', and there's a noticeable cross in the center of the Brotherhood's emblem. I even think that Maero wanted to screw the Saints because they were responsible for Victor's death at a time when they were more of a small-time gang. These facts, their style, and their story are why they win top spot for me. Because I view the Carnales so dangerous, what intrigues me more is that the Brotherhood are basically Carnales 2.0, so any surviving Carnales members that joined the Brotherhood are particularly out for the Saints, explaining why they're so brutal. As Pierce says, what they lack in organization and tactics, they make up for with rage, respect for one another, and brute strength. Maero also seems to display sociopathic tendencies; peds are always telling me "Maero's a really great guy once you get to know him", and to be frank, this is true. Like I said, I think he's only bitter at the Saints over Victor's death, but this and his greed was where he messed up. Carlos' disturbing death made it feel personal too. Oh, and The Ho Boat in Saints Row 3 has the exact same energy as the Brotherhood mission The Enemy of My Enemy, so this is a reminder of their legacy. As if this wasn't enough of an essay, I need to make some honorable mentions of side gangs. The pimps in Stilwater in Saints Row 2 are a gang despite not occupying territory. They're in a never-ending battle with the Saints, and attack in very large numbers. I find it frustrating there aren't bonus strongholds to get rid of them, but then again, there'd be nothing fun to do if I couldn't beat the shit out of them during the after hours when they appear. In Saints Row 3, there exists a biker gang and a gang of mascots, though only accessed through survival challenges. The bikers challenge The Boss, and someone calls them about the mascots taking advantage of a sale at Let's Pretend. So make that 12 gangs in the series that you deal with on-screen.

Great video! I hope you decide to make future Saints Row content :)

Saints Row 2 was the absolute gem of the series. The theme music brings back a ton of damn good memories. My favorite gang when I was younger was the Ronin, primarily because they had katanas and badass outfits, but also because of the terrifying ending of how Gat and the player deal with the Ronin's leader. As for the other two gangs, the Brotherhood was pretty cool and I can't even remember thr name of the green gang even after seeing their name in this video. Still, the green gang had a cool climax mission. *Also-* I could never find out how to duel wield katanas like that one dude who you eventually battle. It pissed me off and I still don't know if you can. It's been so long that I may have done it at the time, I just can't remember. EDIT- This comment is already really long, but I forgot to add while thinking about it that looking back on it now, the Ronin had a hell of a storyline as well. I'm not done with the video, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are #1. EDIT 2- I had a suspicion that The Brotherhood would be #1.

That fire alarm battery sound though.

I'd just like to thank everyone for all the nice comments. I appreciate the love. Hopefully, I can find more Saints Row stuff to talk about. Thinking of ranking the Saints in the future.

The Ronin cutscenes are some of the best in the series. Happy they made it so high on your list.

Before I watch the video, I wanna say, the Vice Kings and the Ronin are my favorite gangs. I don't consider the "gangs" from SR3 to be actual gangs, and I also just don't like them.

The Carnales are intimidating because of their history and how they made The Vice Kings come to be. It seems like Manuel was right, the sons weren't ready to be as good as their pops. I'd play a game about The Vice Kings rising up to combat The Carnales.

Watching this again, and holy shit Ben King in Saints Row 4 pretty much summed up Maero's death in the best way possible. "The Saints didn't kill you, your greed did."

Isn't it telling how good the older games did do to the rankings of the newer ones.

This just proves that Saints Row 2 is the best one. And i wholeheartedly agree ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

I just recently experienced all Saints Row games (well except for the first one). I got Saints Row 2 for free a few years ago but didn`t bother to even try it and a month ago I accidentally played it. Week later I realised I`ve just finished Saints Row 4. Games are just awesome. The way they make you feel like a BOSS is utterly incredible. And customization is always there to help you create a any character you can only imagine. I wish there was another game in the series I could play. Or maybe a simple device to wipe my memories in order to replay those masterpieces

Very well done. Only major differences for me is that I would have rated Los Carnales higher since it is one of the few gangs with a real backstory, and I would have placed Kings above Ronin.

Before watching this the Ronin gotta be #1. The Death of Aisha and burying that guy alive in the cemetery was soo dark yet impactful.

I really did feel more threat from the Saint Row 2 gangs than from the others in future installments. The Brotherhood was a good choice for the number 1 spot since we've had the most back and forth in retaliation and personal vengeance.

I honestly love the VK's, Ronin and the Deckers. Probably my fav gangs from the 3 games

Westside Rollerz: Gang that is responsible for killing lin. number 7 Vice Kings: Responsible for breaking Gats leg. number 3 I mean.. rightio XD

That intro was so cool it gave me goosebumps lol! Awesome vid, I hope to see more content soon, especially if it's Saints Row related! Keep up the great work :)

I hope the new saints row will be more like 1 and 2 in almost every way possible but improved. Basically saints 2 but MORE. I want to see a more realistic story setting like 1 and 2. No aliens. I want Gang warfare and gang customization.

I respect this list. The Vice Kings we always be the best gang in my opinion. King was such an appropriate name because many kings have fallen to the under bosses. Heavy is the head that wears the crown

Great video! Love the gangs from Saints Row 1 and 2 (especially SR2), they're so much more memorable than the rest.

Saints row 2 is by the far the best of the series. I’m honestly surprised the Ronin didn’t hit number 1 due to their story arcs and impact compared to the brotherhood, Carlos was an L but it happened so soon in the arc that it didn’t create as big of a hit as aisha’s.

I feel like the king's 👑 were the best rivals but can't argue with this line up! Much love homie

My favorite gangs STORY 1: The Ronin 2: The Brotherhood 3: The Vice Kings 4: The Sons of Samedi 5: The Morningstar 6: The Deckers 7: The Luchadores 8: The West Side Rollerz 9: The Carnales EFFECT 1: The Brotherhood 2: The Ronin 3: The Morningstar 4: The Vice Kings 5: The Luchadores 6: The Deckers 7: The West Side Rollerz 8: The Sons of Samedi 9: The Carnales STYLE 1: The Ronin 2: The Brotherhood 3: The Deckers 4: The Luchadores 5: The Vice Kings 6: The Morningstar 7: The West Side Rollerz 8: The Sons of Samedi 9: The Carnales

It's great, that this video is blowing up recently. We need more SR content in KZfaq.

I kind of felt like the Vice Kings were meant to be the only enemy gang in Saint's Row, but plans changed somewhere and they threw in the other two for some reason. The VK are the ones with all the big story events, the ones with history with the Saints (Julius in particular), and the ones whose end feels the most meaningful. I played SR1 over a decade ago and the only missions I remember from the Rollerz and Carnales were the one where you chase down and kill the old guy right after he kills Lin, the one where you chase down and kill Price at the end of the Rollerz storyline, and the one where you blow up the plane at the end of the Carnales storyline.

Also I love the quote you used to introduce the ronin, my fav

saints row 2 is the best in my opinion with a nice balance between wacky and dark the gangs are great maps fun and story is nice i realy deserved the remaster over 3

It’s hard to find such quality saints row content, especially nowadays. Great vid, great channel!

love the ranking and the ronin and deckers are my favorite gangs.

It looks like the youtube algorithm has blessed this one, hope to see more videos like this in the future

honestly i 100% agree with your placements, good video btw!

Thank for helping understand the Saints Row world more 🙏. Hope to see more videos from you in the future.

Loved this video! I agree with a lot of your points. The Carlos death broke my heart too.. Big slap in the face when Maero escaped during the big raid of their HQ before the final battle. I thought his death actually hit harder for me than Aisha's because I began at Saints Row 2. He was literally the first saint I met when I began this series.

This is such a strong video 👍 I think all your ratings and favourite scenes were well chosen, and your analysis was pretty damn good 👍 I'd have to agree that The Brotherhood was the best gang out of the nine - the storyline felt more personal to The Boss than any other. I would have put The Rollers higher up though. I preferred that story to The Deckers - I felt nothing emotional taking the Deckers down, but I legit wanted blood after Lin's death - I hunted Mr Price like an absolute madman to avenge her 😂

Not sure what was more entertaining. this vid as a whole or the "dont at me, at your mother" line. So boom... earned a sub.

that was a beautiful introduction 💯

Genuinely shocked that people love and remember this game as much as I do

Shogo is voiced by Sasuke, only reason why I liked the Ronin myself.

That's fucking falcon punch that Johnny did against Jyunichi that broke the headstone he was laying against is always super satisfying.

Hexley’s Cauldron. Keep up the good work. Just discovered your channel and I’m liking the content.

awesome list, the saints row 2 gangs were definitely peak for me. i remember doing the sons, then the ronin and lastly the brotherhood. felt right narratively lol

Not to mention, the last two Brotherhood missions are nothing short of phenomenal. The introduction cutscene for Showdown really got me hyped up.

I loved the video. The Saints Row 2 gangs were really good.

When saints row 4 brought out the aliens, I just labeled each enemy gangs as factions from that point on. (I know gangs and factions are the same thing, but when you mention it as saints row in a whole and not just specific titles, it would make sense for the newer fans and stuff.)

The Brotherhood was my favourite gang to fight, I always saved them for last. While I preferred the Ronin’s style with their swords and fast machines, the Brotherhood just had that more of impact to me. Maero seemed more intimidating than any of the other bosses or enforcers, the better weapons of the gang and their tougher cars, the brutality of the war between them an the Saints…so much fun.

Superb analysis. Agree 100%.

pretty cool video 👍 can't wait for more

Pretty good list, I'd have to think about it myself. Overall, good points and most I agreed with.

Love saints row and I pretty much agree with your whole list. Especially number 1. The brotherhood always felt like the strongest in sr2 which I think is the best one.

Glad I found a new KZfaqr today, subbed!

Amazing editing!

Unbelievably well compositioned. Make more content Plz

Great video, comes to show how SR2 had the best gangs

100% Agree with this list. Ronin and Deckers are my favorite though.

Also I agree. The Brotherhood and The Vice Kings are the most deadliest gangs in all of the series because they knew from the start NOT to underestimate the Saints.

Nice use of the Dex clip! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

The best video i have seen all day! 💯

Interesting video! love saints row

I think your ranking is pretty spot on, though i feel like you saying "the rollerz were in a transition period like the carnales" isnt entirely accurate, the rollerz were the newest gang on the scene, the "deal" was more about them trying to build themselves up, unlike the carnales, who had established themselves long before and are just trying to keep their power, in terms of personal favorites, i think the gangs of SRTT were the weakest of all the games, morning star was my least favorite, luchadores were in the middle, and deckers, while still not a favorite, are the best that particular game had to offer, my favorite of them all was the vice kings, they seemed the most grounded and their story was just a blast to play through, followed by the ronin

I really enjoyed this video!!

My favorite gang will always be the ronin I loved their design and fighting style plus i always shot at them for hours and we will never forget how they loved hitting u with cars every chance they got

Awsome video thanks youtube recomdations

My number one favorite are the Vice Kings. Ben King felt like a true gang leader. And the Ronin are my second favorite mainly because of Jyuninichi, Shogo characters and missions. But I still love the Brotherhood entire arc. RIP Carlos.

great video and ranking

What sealed the deal for the deckers being my favorite gang was the boss fight music being a deadmau5 song. 😂

honestly in saints row 2 when I think about which is my favorite (which is the ronin) I would rank them as my favorite from their preferred radio station type of areas you'd see them in and the other stuff you said

Maero's offer of 20 percent was actually quite generous, seeing as how the Saints were basically washed-up nobodies. Also, I have to give him props for having the courtesy to meet with the Boss in a public place and without his goons. The Boss didn't get that courtesy from the Ronin or the Sons of Samedi. My favorite gang in the whole series are the Deckers, followed by the Sons of Samedi, then the Westside Rollerz. I like the Deckers' cybergoth aesthetic (despite not being a cybergoth myself), the Sons of Samedi storyline, and the Westside Rollerz "pretty boy tuner" style.

"Oh shit! These hoes ain't hoes!" Is one of my favorite video game lines of all time

Solid Break Down. I immediately knew the Brotherhood would top out at #1. I can agree. It had the thickest plot, and there boss was physically involved the most. I was curious one day. So, i activated the cheat code at the end when facing off against Maero on the rooftop, to make myself larger then him, and jump higher to reach where he stands. I'll wait until his mini gun runs out of ammo of course, and approach him to see his reaction. Then just start fighting hand to hand, no weapon's. I learned that he will actually fight you. I also found out that regardless to however giant as my avatar is, Maero is programmed to not be able to be picked up. So the code to make you huge doesn't make you stronger. It's just for aesthetics. It's ridiculous to see him manhandle my guy lol. But it's possible to brawl, and take the W in that sense if you're interested. Careful, he can easily kill you with his brute strength. I would love to see him and bane go at it 1 on 1, hand to hand. No weapon's. I wonder who would win that match up.

We are in agreement. Damn, I miss this series's haday

I like this video thanks for this

actually a good video. good content. good job.

Definitely agree with brotherhood at #1. Not to mention that they are my personal favorite haha

Saints 1s gangs were amazing. Ronin were amazing. I'm rethinking my distaste of those tattoo guys after this vid so they're kl too. Every other gang was garbage. Just too wacky. I hope they restart this series and make it grounded. No more wizards, cyber missions, aliens and demons. Keep those things for unlockable weapons or something

Excellent video, just to throw out there that the aesthetics of the gangs rely more on opinion rather then fact. Nevertheless, it's a completely arguable and agreeable list.

Very good vid

honestly for a first vid this is great