Ranking The Flagship Drum Modules

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Today we are ranking all the flagship drum modules to see how the best of the best from each company stacks up against each other!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:27 Tier 3 Flagships
3:03 Tier 2 Flagships
6:29 Tier 1 Flagships
11:31 Totally Biased Fun Ranking

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@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Additional notes: 1. The 2Box Drummit 5 MKII is much more expensive here in the USA than in Europe, so the rankings might have been different if I lived somewhere else. 2. Those numbers in the module comparison charts are accurate to the best of my knowledge. But these drum companies love to leave out specs from their websites. I had to estimate certain things. For example ATV doesn't publicly list their sound count, and even their official website has out of date numbers, still listing 5 kits vs the current 12 kits. 2Box also doesn't list an official sound count. EFNOTE doesn't list the max number of pads it can handle in a clear way. Pearl doesn't list an up to date sound count or kit list, even their updated 2022 manual has out of date information. NUX also doesn't list a sound count either. 3. For the number of pads each module can handle, I listed the actual number of cables, and then a separate number for the number of pads that can result from that. For example, an EFNOTE module can have a certain number of pad cables, but that number is artificially high because it counts the bell zone cable, and rim click zone of the snare. 2box has several inputs that are only active when a bell zone are used for certain pads. Pearl's number is higher than you might think, because you have the ability to use 2 ride cymbals that do 3 zones over one cable at the same time. But this only works if you press a special button in the module and use certain types of ride cymbals. Anything with a Roland style Bell/Bow and Bow/Edge cable setup would result in one less potential pad being used. Or in the case of the Roland TD50X, the hi-hat control input, ride bell zone, and digital pad inputs inflate the numbers. When a digital pad is used, the matching 1/4 inch pad input is shut off inside the module. 4. I've spent WAY too many hours trying to get these specs right. This is the 8th version of the video.
@sammcdouall4849
@sammcdouall4849 Жыл бұрын
The 2Box module can have a maximum of 8000 samples (DSDN files) within 1000 folders. There is a maximum of 800 wav files for songs. There are multiple kit banks of 100 kits, but the user can keep adding more kit banks (I don't know the limit but it is more that 20, it might be 100 kit banks) 64Gb SD cards can be used if formatted & partition are adjusted correctly.
@ThePaulmirto
@ThePaulmirto Жыл бұрын
Hope
@rodneywastaken
@rodneywastaken Жыл бұрын
I case you still read old comments, any inputs on the gear4music module? Ive been looking fir a decent review about it and aince youre the best e-drum youtube out here, you might have a good input about it, im asking this cuz this module specifically is also sold in other countries, this one is branded as a gear4music one, but you can find it as the amw on brazil, and as rockdale on russia
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
@@rodneywastaken I'm not sure which exact gear4music module you're talking about, but in general I'd just not impressed with anything they make. I haven't played their stuff, but I've played lots of off-brand Chinese drum sets that is in the same vein as the suppliers Gear4music uses. And 99% percent of the time they aren't great in person. Just the photos look nice
@rodneywastaken
@rodneywastaken Жыл бұрын
​@65Drums i think its called DD480X, but i might be mistaken, its the one you removed as soon as the video started hahaha, i was wondering it would be a decent starter module or not, here in brazil this a relatively cheap grab, the only other kit close to its price would be a alesis nitro, or a badly used nitro surge, but the module is my main focus rn, thanks for you attention and time ❤
@RizikMusic
@RizikMusic Жыл бұрын
Another note about the Alesis module -- while yes, those "trash" sounds / kits are plentiful, I've noticed they become far more useful in a mix when playing with a group (particularly for electronic music like I've been) as opposed to played standalone. I wrote off so many sounds when I first got the kit, only to bring them back for live electronic music purposes. Hope that helps someone!
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
The layering possibilities are almost endless
@gordonjeffrey8616
@gordonjeffrey8616 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting summary! Thanks for the comparison, Justin.
@ZaxDrumsandGolf
@ZaxDrumsandGolf Жыл бұрын
Another great review Justin!! 😀👍
@steevidrums
@steevidrums Жыл бұрын
The recent mimic update had definitely been a HUGE development as far as I am concerned, especially now with a sound import editor available.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 Жыл бұрын
I was just getting ready to sell mine before the update lol. Looks like it'll stick around for a while.
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
@@arbogast4950 I know, I should have pulled the trigger on buying one before the update lol.
@johnfrith7884
@johnfrith7884 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos you have helped me decide on getting the Roland VAD 706 with an extra 14x14 floor tom added in Gloss Cherry I’m going to also add six more cymbals though I’m not sure if they all will connect to the TD 50 X individually someone said I had to use some kind of cable splitter hopefully Sweetwater will know what to do. That’s where I’ll probably be purchasing it from or my local guitar center Thanks again for all your videos.
@aaronsparks9012
@aaronsparks9012 Жыл бұрын
Between Drum-tec TV and 65drums oh yes and also DRUMEO when I go too upgrade my drum set it's going too be wicked thanks for your honest reviews Justin crushed it as always thanks.🤯🙏
@dasenase
@dasenase Жыл бұрын
Love my Alesis Strike but I've switched to using only EZDrummer sounds. The quality difference is crazy.
@crazyclownstudioaudio3122
@crazyclownstudioaudio3122 Жыл бұрын
great video !
@Isaacvorobyov
@Isaacvorobyov Жыл бұрын
Great video justin
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters Жыл бұрын
Nice video Justin!
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rustytheaveragedrumguy3984
@rustytheaveragedrumguy3984 Жыл бұрын
You left one critical piece out. The amount of sales. Some modules, let's say Roland or Alesis, are pushed on us more than others in retail stores. More of that market are going to be over represented. Obviously this will effect public opinion. I know you know this but just wanted to point this out. Great job and congrats on the hundred thousand mark. 👏
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure all of us are all biased in one way or another. People like brands they are familiar with. And bigger companies like Roland/Alesis/Yamaha do have large marketing budgets and deals with music stores
@canturgan
@canturgan 5 ай бұрын
I just bought a second hand 2box Drumit 5 mk 2 with all the pads, hi hat, snare stand, stool and rack for £600. I love it.
@RC-gf8cs
@RC-gf8cs Жыл бұрын
Been playin yam dtx3..since 2006..still my fav
@PianoScottDeBoer
@PianoScottDeBoer 2 ай бұрын
Would love to see a follow-up to this with newer modules, and maybe even a video for the ones you eliminated here.
@ikeeptime
@ikeeptime Жыл бұрын
Bought an Alesis strike pro kit used about a year ago. Best $1500 I ever spent (included DW hat stand, double bass pedal and snare stand). All modules have a learning curve but after a coupla weeks this one became intuitive and zipping thru functions is easily done and remembered. What I use most is the tone button for adjusting pitch of on board cymbals. I now have several kits that I have modified each cymbal by simply adjusting tone. This is an excellent feature and actually makes some crappy samples much better sounding. Overall I had to replace one cymbal pad due to false triggering and occasionally one other pad misses but not often enough to send my playing into a tailspin. I should state that I have never used it in live settings thru external speakers (Beats phones only) and I assume I will need to adjust the EQ on every piece when I go live. For a three year old set up I am pretty pleased.
@reubenk7331
@reubenk7331 4 ай бұрын
Ok the final list is gospel and very serious, got it. I honestly thought nobody used built in sounds for serious stuff, because you can do so much more with a computer. I get that the top tier stuff is really good though. It's wild how much work gets put into the built in sounds, for them to still kind of suck on a lot of units.
@dennisagresti9367
@dennisagresti9367 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! As a longtime Roland user (25 years!) and as a current TD50X owner, I couldn’t agree more with your views. The amount of editing capabilities under the hood of the 50X are mind boggling. This module is not ‘easy’ to learn out of the box and takes time to learn it, but it truly shines once you learn how to edit sounds or add sound packs such as Vex, Drum-Tec or others. The performance and realism is the best I’ve ever played (I’ve owned a 2Box and a few Yamaha modules,too) , and hooking it into a DAW for recording or running a VST from it is simple, bulletproof and insanely great. Thanks, Justin for another great video and for all your content.
@Alexzw92
@Alexzw92 25 күн бұрын
After watching the full video Pearl Mimic for studio recording TD-50X for live playing
@squidskunk
@squidskunk 4 ай бұрын
itl be interesting if you do this comparison again in the future including the new Alesis strata prime module.
@itsgmani
@itsgmani Жыл бұрын
I use the strike with getgood drums and love it. I am thinking about upgrading to a 50x or a mimic. I’d like to build a custom atoe kit. What’s the better choice? I’d like to be able to use superior drummer 3. Maybe just keep the strike and upgrade the pads?
@rikvanderbrugghen6792
@rikvanderbrugghen6792 Жыл бұрын
Hi all. The 10 separate channel buttons on the DrumIt Five were a heritage from ddrum 4 and 3 of those days. I brought that along from Clavia. They didn't change that for mkII, so still the same :-)
@galgogergo
@galgogergo Жыл бұрын
OMG, are you the guy who helped to develop 2box back in the day???! How is it going, man...!?? :))
@galgogergo
@galgogergo Жыл бұрын
I would have so many questions 🤗 May you be open for an email exchange? :) (Tried to connect to you via LinkedIn but that seems to be private and I couldn't send an invitation back like, 5, 10 years ago :) ) Cheers, Greg
@rikvanderbrugghen6792
@rikvanderbrugghen6792 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Yep, I did the electronics and software for DrumIt Five mk1. Independent since. Cheers.
@KenKlejs
@KenKlejs Жыл бұрын
@@rikvanderbrugghen6792 You should have stayed with the team, perhaps they would have actually kept on releasing updates for the module :) But cheers with the MK1, best sounding module of its time.
@spindreams
@spindreams Жыл бұрын
The strike module is by far the best value for money and up there with the Pearl mimic and TD-50X module with features and quality even though it is 1/4 of the price.
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
I was not impressed with the Alesis. For the few things it did well, it was a wreck in others.
@stephenhughes5156
@stephenhughes5156 Жыл бұрын
@@randalscandal1588 Care to elaborate on that?
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenhughes5156 triggering overall was not very good and the hi hat is a disaster. It was an amazing value but just not a pro system, and much of that is the module. Pads triggered much better with a TD-12, but not as good as other pads.
@stephenhughes5156
@stephenhughes5156 Жыл бұрын
@@randalscandal1588 What kit were you using the module with? I've spent a good few hours playing the Strike Pro SE and had no issues whatsoever with triggering. I think sometimes the problem can also be solved by tinkering with the sensitivity and what not. I have heard though that the module doesn't work as well with non- Alesis pads though. And then their non- SE kits are just not the best anyway, regardless of the module.
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenhughes5156 Strike pro kit. I tinkered and reset. It's just not a pro module IMO. I've been playing edrums at home, in the studio and live since my Simmons SDS9's in the 80's I plugged the pads into my td12 and they were much better. The Strike does a lot for the money, just not at a pro level. I remember seeing it at NAMM the first yr and it looked amazing, but they actually had it there plugged in with NO SOUNDS. I have no idea why they'd debut a non working product. I have the Strike pro multipad and it's great.
@gaetanguerin1734
@gaetanguerin1734 5 ай бұрын
Hi as I am a new in Edrum I just got a Yamaha DTX 900M and need to know what will ne the best fit for my hi hat. Thx by the way I really like your videos...from Quebec canada !
@Prizmatic1658
@Prizmatic1658 Жыл бұрын
This channel is so helpful for someone as obsessed with this crap as me.
@noahhunter06
@noahhunter06 Жыл бұрын
I have been looking into the megadrum module and I was wondering people's experience with it, especially as my chokes don't work on midi
@TateJenson
@TateJenson Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Justin. I'm wondering, for beginner electronic drummers, is it better over the long run to build a drum set in small increments rather than getting the full kit? For example, just start with the bass drum, snare and hi-hat. Then after a year of just focusing on the basics to get them rock solid, get cymbals or toms etc.
@stephenhughes5156
@stephenhughes5156 Жыл бұрын
There is something to be said about getting good with a minimalist set- up before adding more drums and cymbals. I wouldn't say to limit yourself to only a snare, hi hat and kick drum though. You also at least want a crash, ride and floor Tom, and also a rack tom really. Otherwise you won't be able to play songs properly. You also ideally want another crash so you have easy access while playing both the ride and the hi hat. But yes when you look at the kits that some of the pros, there is just no need for that until you've got used to a more basic set- up. Bare in mind, though, that it's generally more expensive to buy the drums/cymbals separately, unless you can get a good used deal.
@canturgan
@canturgan 5 ай бұрын
One of the best drummers I ever heard had a bass drum hi hat and snare.
@NakeanWickliff
@NakeanWickliff Жыл бұрын
Can you give recomendation for modules to be used with VST's? Are there any benefits to upgrading my TD4 if my son and I are just going to use BFD3 though my computer?
@heisterreinsch6251
@heisterreinsch6251 Жыл бұрын
a ranking of budget modules would be awesome. im using some roland gear and switched from the td3 to the td6 and thinking about a more minimal but moden module. any recommendations. in fact i dont need any special features. good drum sound, headphone jack and maybe (cause its up to date) a possibility to connect to the macbook for simple recording or a vst. thank you!
@toxicgardengnomes
@toxicgardengnomes Жыл бұрын
The best value, if I could butt in, would be a td 27 and a vst such as ez drummer. I bought a td 50x but really I could have got away with a td 27 to run digital hats, snare , ride and vst .
@mikaellarsson785
@mikaellarsson785 Жыл бұрын
A new drumit3 module costs 740 euros in Europe. If you buy a memory upgrade 64gb from Zourman for 45 euro you get get a drumit 5 mk2 except for some useless buttons and one extra output. I have imorted my steven slate vst into my drumit3. So then the difference soundwise to a mimic pro is the newley released position sensing feature in the mimic, but I have at least 1800 euros to spend on other things🙂
@BurningHearts70
@BurningHearts70 Жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, I did my own AtoE kit and bought a Strike module and Superior drummer 3. I like some of the sounds on the Strike module. I was curious would it be better to go to the Yamaha just for a better quality module or stick with Strike pro? What’s your opinion?
@BurningHearts70
@BurningHearts70 Жыл бұрын
@fartpoobox ohyeah I had a DTX module and set back around the 2001 time and the sounds were terrible. The Strike module is light years beyond that one. The Strike does have some great sounds on it though. I think Superior drummer 3 beats every module in existence.
@24isthebestracecar
@24isthebestracecar Жыл бұрын
Based off older modules which are the best ones. The roland td-10, dtx pro(not the prox), dtx 700, td-25 or alesis dm 10
@berniebond
@berniebond Жыл бұрын
Any guess when the all digital td-60 will come out?
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the USB B port is that big of deal on the Mimic since it has MIDI out which you just connect to a 30$ USB-MIDI cable. I use mine with SD3 and it works fine. You can even slave a second module into the PMP using the MIDI in, I've used my td-25 for extra pads when trying to do some TOOL stuff. I have almost zero latency using the MIDI port and it works easily enough with any software I've needed. Honestly though I think I actually prefer the Mimic sounds a lot of times over my 1000$ in SD3 SDXs lol. The cymbals on the mimic are really nice. They have a "touch" to them that feels 'right'
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
I have 5.5, but I liked the way the mimic cymbals played better than triggering SSD
@idleprepress
@idleprepress Жыл бұрын
For that price tag they coud've built in a full-scale digital audio interface there.
@Nicky_T
@Nicky_T Жыл бұрын
I love E Drums. I converted my acoustic set to electric thanks to UFO Drums, and paired it with a Roland TD-17 module and some Lemon cymbals. I currently am making my own makeshift Roto-Toms from scratch to add on to my kit. One thing I really really have an issue with is the dynamic range. On actual drums, there are hundreds of different levels of volume you can play at, though with E-Drums most of the time you're stuck with only 127 different levels (because it's MIDI). I'm a life-long programmer and drummer and I'm currently making my own module with it's own format that can use the entire 16 bit range of standard audio (0-96DB, 65536 different sound levels instead of 127). Once I complete it I'd officially prefer E-Drums over acoustic, assuming that it works just fine. Great Video!
@Justin-xk7yj
@Justin-xk7yj Жыл бұрын
How does the EFNote hi-hat compare to the Roland's VH14Ds?
@DomCiaccia
@DomCiaccia Жыл бұрын
I recently went down a rabbit hole of which module to buy. Coming from a TD20. I play out live with my e-kit and wanted as close to real drum sounds as possible. I ended up narrowing it down to 3 choices. TD30, TD50 and the Pearl Mimic Pro. While the TD50 has crazy capabilities as far as sound modification goes, as well as the better triggering etc..I feel the sounds in the module are not nearly as good or natural sounding as the TD30 and definitely no comparison to the Pearl Mimic Pro. I don’t want to have to re-shape all of my drum sounds to death to get them to sound like a real drum kit, so I decided that the Pearl Mimic Pro was the module that I wanted. While shopping at a drum store locally to me, the owner stumbled on a brand new TD30 module in box, never opened and sold it to me for $500. I couldn’t pass it up. The built in sounds are pretty good and sound way more realistic to me, especially with some sound modifications/eq/compression etc. I still want a Pearl Mimic Pro though and am waiting to find a deal on one. Your channel has been a great resource for me in making my module selections, so thank you for all of your great content! I appreciate you!
@michaelperry2446
@michaelperry2446 Жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, Just wondering can u split the digital signal on TD 50?? I have 2) 18 and snare and want to get d HiHats!! Also the td 50 that u borrowed from me to do some videos needs a new usb port and power button. Do u know anybody over at Roland USA to send or call?? thanks!!
@SydneyDrums
@SydneyDrums Жыл бұрын
Most have great drum sounds. The ATV & Mimic have great cymbal sounds imho
@zigman63
@zigman63 11 ай бұрын
My question is as someone who has just purchased my first ever electronic drum kit, it's a budget mesh beginner kit with basic module of only 12 kits and 10 songs etc.Can I use a better module with the same kit if it's possible?
@eddieturner4752
@eddieturner4752 Жыл бұрын
Hey Justin! I’m working on my second A2E build with a Tama Club Jam kit and internal triggers from Convertible Percussions. I haven’t bought any cymbals yet and figured this was the best time to consider a non-Roland option. Are there concerns over using a Yamaha module with a conversion kit beyond hi-hat and ride compatibility? I’m looking at either the DTX900 or DTX-ProX.
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
At this point I wouldn't get any Yamaha module for a conversion set up. Most internal triggers are designed with Roland type modules in mind. And if you go yamaha, your cymbal choice is too limited.
@99beatmonster
@99beatmonster Жыл бұрын
Good work Justin, however , any poll which asks people to vote for their idea of 'best ' is immediately dependant upon those people having heard of or having access to the item in question...and most people have heard of Roland V-drums since the late 90's. Roland have more marketing clout than most of the others and because of the sheer range of kits they produce , people are far more likely to start out on a Roland kit. I'm not anti-Roland , I have owned / used TD-7, TD-10, TD-20, TD-30...most of their multi-pads etc and I respect their products. I just think that the results are likely to be what came about, but not because the modules chosen are necessarily 'the best', but often because they have the best marketing behind them. I personally find the dynamics of the ATV aD5 to be far more expressive for example, but who measures this ?... that's another area which is often overlooked .Many of them have their own specific strengths. Cheers.
@bobbyjones2112
@bobbyjones2112 Жыл бұрын
Which one would you use if you’re gonna strictly use EZdrummer 3?
@mikeyama7277
@mikeyama7277 6 ай бұрын
can the yamaha dtx-pro x module be used with roland pads?
@schnecko
@schnecko Жыл бұрын
I bought a new ATV ad5 Champagne Edition Module for 599 Euro. So i think this was a fair price ;-).
@Chachi487
@Chachi487 11 ай бұрын
Hi, i want to get an electric drum module for my Simmons 1000 don’t want a Simmons module can you recommend one that would work
@dilankarun9172
@dilankarun9172 Жыл бұрын
Where would you rate the Roland TD-27 module, it inlcudes 3 digital input, which means it supports Roland's Digital Pads. I would take it over every module here except the TD-50 and Pearl Mimic Pro. Just my 2cents 😀
@markjohnson1020
@markjohnson1020 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping to start finding used TD 27 modules for $500-$600 bucks. Not a chance. Can barely find one under $1000!
@dr.shinephd
@dr.shinephd Жыл бұрын
Is EZ Drummer 3 worth it for ROLAND TD15?
@IIIxwaveIII
@IIIxwaveIII Жыл бұрын
No surprises. You should do this for mid range modules
@dannohite576
@dannohite576 Жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, want to buy a pearl mimic pro with the latest updates on it? I personally like my TD27 more. I have all the digital pads and love them! To use the mimic I have to switch all of them out for vh13/cy16rt/and pda120ls. Slaving the 27 into the mimic is possible but no positional sensing on the digital pads. I just want to get rid of it 🤷‍♂️
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested.
@dannohite576
@dannohite576 Жыл бұрын
@@randalscandal1588 okay, If you're serious, I was planning on posting it on reverb & Ebay. It's mint condition, like new. And I have a Gibraltar module stand for it along with a dozen pighog trs cables that are high quality cables. Cost me over $200 for just those, but they have a lifetime guarantee! There's also a handful of purchased kits on it too. I was thinking $2200 for everything. Got the box for it too. Let me know if you want to work something out, I'm going to be putting it out there for sale regardless
@galgogergo
@galgogergo Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that you put the EFNote 3 steps above the ATV. To me, they are kind of the same tbh 🤷 I was also surprised that you told the Yamaha DTX has great sounds. I've gotta listen to the demos again, since I remember it being sub-par to even a Strike module... I mean like, no round robin samples??? Really?
@joekao192
@joekao192 9 ай бұрын
So many ppl talking Strike pro, almost hero vs zero!! I like the strike pro best but I never try one! I read the function and feel it’s very useful and powerful, for the e drum module, I only want the original sounds who like the real drum most! I heard efnote and shocked, but it’s too expensive !
@JustanEdrummer
@JustanEdrummer 5 ай бұрын
the triggering sucks, good for metal but useless for other styles
@purevanillacookie9977
@purevanillacookie9977 Жыл бұрын
Update: NUX is coming up with a DM8
@andretempler
@andretempler Жыл бұрын
What about Millenium?
@Derfen81
@Derfen81 Жыл бұрын
We need a contest to show off
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
What are you thinking more specifically?
@Derfen81
@Derfen81 Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums a small contest episode or episodes where viewers can send u vids if thier sets. Like how u use to cover sets like donuts drums but now a contest. I hav a giant set and live to show it off and I think ur channel is best place
@Derfen81
@Derfen81 Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums you know sets ppl made with advice from your channel. I’ve used your advice for years now
@Derfen81
@Derfen81 Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums I just think your channel would be a great place to run a small contest. Also prize doesn’t need to be anything special ppl just want to show off and if think it would be great veiws fer u. lol f I’m not answering something specific u need to know just ask and ty for your response
@Derfen81
@Derfen81 Жыл бұрын
@SinisterNewt it may not but if it does I’d rather see it in 65 then anywhere else. And I need to show off lol. Edruming has become huge and 65 is first place I check for new news
@PatrickBuzoDrums
@PatrickBuzoDrums 8 ай бұрын
Who's the drummer in the last clip?
@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 Жыл бұрын
The MAIN reason why I brought the Roland TD-50X is the top touring drummers are using this module with their kits. I talked to drum techs who set the drums up for different artists and they have said that the Roland TD-50X is built like a TANK!! I normally play 50-60 shows a year on my Roland VAD CG 706 kit and I've had NO issues with the module or drum kit!!!!
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
That's a good point Roger, I've dropped a TD50 and TD30, both are still fine! :) I've seen photos of your drum set on the 65 Drums Facebook group and it looks awesome
@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums , Thanks!! I’m still waiting on my extra tom!!! I ordered it with the VAD 706 kit, but it wasn’t delivered with the kit. It’s still on back order……
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
A lot of pros use the Mimic pro too.
@jvices
@jvices 7 ай бұрын
My Ad5’s usb suddenly stopped working and the company refuses to service it or trade it for another model. Probably my biggest gear purchase regret. 😢
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 ай бұрын
ouch sorry to hear that :(
@JustanEdrummer
@JustanEdrummer 5 ай бұрын
that's why they're going for not more than 350 on the used market, unbelievable that some dealers in Europe still sell it and want 900 bucks for it...
@360.Tapestry
@360.Tapestry 9 ай бұрын
bang for the buck is probably the alesis strike pro
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
Mimic Pro all the way.
@Wollestar
@Wollestar Жыл бұрын
How expensive is the 2box in the US?😱 In Germany it's 900€. Would you put it to first place in the below 1000€ bracket
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Yeah It's really expensive here, but that's how much it costs at the music store chain Sam Ash. It's better than the strike in my opinion
@femali
@femali Жыл бұрын
I love my 2box! I haven't uploaded kits on it yet, but I found some really good stock sounds!
@sammcdouall4849
@sammcdouall4849 Жыл бұрын
The 2Box module sounds the best IMHO. I have a 64Gb cards loaded with different VST (SD3,SDX GGD, EZD 2, AD2 & more).I have over 280 acoustic snares. I have samples of hi hats & rides over 200mb, but this is Alesis Strike's maximum kit size.
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
The polls were a popularity contest. The Alesis has really bad triggering and hi hat issues, ATV sounds and triggers so much better. Pearl vs. Roland?? Not even close, the Pearl is WORLDS better. Sounds, usability, and it's really easy to dial in other pads. The Yamaha is nice but I just don't love the sounds. I had the 2box 5, too difficult to get around and I didn't like the sounds... IF the mkII is easy to load 5-8 kits of multi layer samples then it's great, but the mk I was hard to get around. The thing with loading the sounds in the module is having great multi layer sounds likve with the safety of just using the module rather than battle potential computer or connection issues.
@daveseemerollin6357
@daveseemerollin6357 4 ай бұрын
Strike pro triggers fine for people who don't play with dynamics. Basically, it's fine for intermediate drummers. Once you delve into more technical and soft playing, it's terrible.
@magicdrummer411
@magicdrummer411 Жыл бұрын
I am beginning to wonder why spend so much money on a module when I can use a midi kit in my daw. EZDrummer would be fantastic and get way more sounds than most modules in the same price range imo. Even using the mt power drummer 2 you can get some really good sounds. Not the best, but definitely demo worthy recordings.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 Жыл бұрын
No latency issues, not having to use a laptop, direct outs. That's about all I can think of.
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
I agree flagship modules cost a lot of money. This means the really expensive ones are only worth it for a narrow group of people. But like Arbogast said, there are some advantages for certain people. Less complexity means less chances for something to go wrong. We've all had a computer crash on us at the worst time. In a live stage environment avoiding laptops brings me peace of mind. There's less latency when just using a all in one module. Getting direct outs built into the module, vs having to buy an extra $800 audio interface with tons of outputs, is really nice to have.
@Ospif1
@Ospif1 Жыл бұрын
Ability to expand the kit would be #1, especially if the module plays with 3rd party hardware well.
@StereoAnthony
@StereoAnthony Жыл бұрын
Ya, VST sounds are king in this situation. you might be adding 3-4ms extra latency using a vsts and laptop, but this will only be an issue until Toontrack or their ilk build their own module to bypass the laptop. Mimic Pro already did it, I'm sure others will follow. I ditched my DTX 700 module and got an EDrumin10 and will never look back.
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 Жыл бұрын
you still have to have a decent module to capture the "feel" and articulations of the MIDI signals you're going to send over to the DAW I use a Mimic and a td25 and there's a LOT more control you get over things like velocity curves and ghost notes when you use a higher end module. The pads aren't a simple on/off signal. There's a curve of what they pick up and how they interpret those vibrations. Cross talk is another good example of that. There's masking time, sensitivity, the range of soft to hard 1-127, how it interprets after shocks (like when the beater vibrates against the pad when you bury the beater) etc. You're going to get a LOT more samples on something like ED3/SD3 than a module. But the sounds in a module are also programmed to the curves and way that kit handles. so there's some tradeoff. Usually something like SD3 will also give you dozens of more mic and effects like compression and reverb. I've used both and i'll say that SD3 is a WORLD of headaches to get the sound you want compared to a module which is far more plug and play. SD3 has a lot to it and you can really get lost in the weeds. The most difficult thing is getting the software to read the MIDI notes correctly - ESPECIALLY hi hats, which are a major issue for drum software to read off of an ekit correctly. Even SD3 has issues at times.
@johnnyrosenberg9522
@johnnyrosenberg9522 Жыл бұрын
8:56 - ”Which one of the modules has samples on more records?” So I should pick the other one then, right? Hard to be unique if sounding like most of the records out there.
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
If being 100% unique is your main goal, I'd go buy an acoustic drum set made by a very small independent company. And then avoid big brands like Zildjian, Sabian, and Paiste for your cymbals.
@johnnyrosenberg9522
@johnnyrosenberg9522 Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums I wasn't talking about me (believe it or not), I'm not even a drummer, even though I have some cheap digital drums in my livingroom. I just find it a bit boring when everybody sound exactly the same.
@GiottoBeattz
@GiottoBeattz Жыл бұрын
only available in MERICA...... :(
@nothingtoseehere93
@nothingtoseehere93 Жыл бұрын
Pearl mimic is so nice but so usb output?? That’s just insane. Really unfortunate as I would have bought it
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 Жыл бұрын
PMP owner, it's really not a big deal. You just use midi-USB and it sends the signals into your PC/MAC I use mine with SD3 and I even have a TD-25 that I use for extra pads. As someone that's run TD25 over USB and Pearl via MIDI it's a 25$ cord and no difference in result. For audio I just run it through my mixer or if I need to I can run stereo master outs to my interface. what do you want USB for? Triggering or audio?
@andrewbarrett6403
@andrewbarrett6403 Жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe toontrack is still sleeping on building a module, or partnering with someone.. something with the same interface as ezdrummer, they could sell its for mid tier price $1500 or so, but only include the kit that comes with ezdrummer, and then sell more expansions.
@michaelanderson2881
@michaelanderson2881 Жыл бұрын
The final poll MIGHT have been more useful if it had been capability for the money, rather than merely fun to play. A person who can't afford the Roland TD50, for example, will have zero fun playing it. But overall, nicely done.
@CanadianTexaninLiguria
@CanadianTexaninLiguria Жыл бұрын
Alesis Strike is - End of Life, no longer available
@OpenSource1
@OpenSource1 4 ай бұрын
Live performance td 50 is all you will see
@juliejones8785
@juliejones8785 Жыл бұрын
I understand the desire to compare flagship models, but as you correctly noted, comparing a $1000 module to a $3000 module doesn't make sense so you introduced tiers. I liked that, but it made me think that if my price range was between $1000 and $2000 I wouldn't limit myself to flagship models in that range. I would also want to compare non flagship models from companies whose flagships models were more expensive.
@darrinthorpe9292
@darrinthorpe9292 Жыл бұрын
First one! Woohoo!!!!
@darrinthorpe9292
@darrinthorpe9292 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2box drumit 3 module. There's some nice sounds internally, but I downloaded some snares, bass drums, and Simmons toms, and I already blew threw the 4gb internal storage.
@sammcdouall4849
@sammcdouall4849 Жыл бұрын
You might need to think about getting the SD card extender cable with a bigger SD card. I have a 64Gb card with a cable extender on an older Drumit 5 mk1. Plenty of Storage with a 64 Gb card.
@martymet
@martymet 9 ай бұрын
I know Im late to the conversation but, Its a shame that 2box kinda just gave up on the US market. thats all.
@kevindie
@kevindie Жыл бұрын
*_Alesis Strike hands down._*
@stephenhughes5156
@stephenhughes5156 Жыл бұрын
Not the best, but probably the best value.
@TKbeatwerk
@TKbeatwerk 9 ай бұрын
2box should have been first imo
@JustanEdrummer
@JustanEdrummer 5 ай бұрын
in sounds yeah, in triggering not so sure...
@TKbeatwerk
@TKbeatwerk 5 ай бұрын
@@JustanEdrummer yeah only flaw with it
@charleslane2735
@charleslane2735 Жыл бұрын
I love roland but yhe price is ridiculous.
@1bhitte
@1bhitte Жыл бұрын
I feel like your missing out never reviewing millennium mps. They cost less in the US then most of Europe yet there are like 3 crappy English reviews of them.
@robbraam7599
@robbraam7599 3 ай бұрын
The roland isn't even as good as the lower priced modules, i have had and tried almost verything, but the roland is still digital and the basic sound are just not good.
@mikede2464
@mikede2464 4 ай бұрын
Roland takes the top spot at flagship...my first thought was "has everyone gone deaf"?
@roberttriner6242
@roberttriner6242 7 ай бұрын
This review is weak, at best. Oh well, I do enjoy many of your other reviews however. THOUGHT: how about you actually do a full review of the wonderfully awesome products that you decided to COMPLETELY DISCLUDE from this review. **Ya know, the products that MOST people can actually afford, and make up the bulk majority of sales (internationally). THAT, my friend, would be effin awesome 🤘🧐 !!!!! Cheers!
@20thcenturymale
@20thcenturymale 9 ай бұрын
Yamaha electronic drums are horrible
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