What would your Rankings be? Part of the fun of collecting is that everyone has a different opinion :)
@azb-comics3 жыл бұрын
Here are my rankings, S- tales of suspense #39 AF#15 hulk 181,Avengers#1, A- FF#1, Jurney in too mistery, B- ASM#1, DD#1, C- First doctor strange, giant size x-men#1 D -X-men #1 it hurts too put it here. It's just I'm am not a fan of the cover.
@Mike-tv4in Жыл бұрын
Love the video! My rankings: S-Af15, FF1 A- IH1, JIM 83, X-men 1, TOS 39 B- ASM 1, Avengers 1 C- DD1, IH 181, Tta 27 D- GSX 1, ST 110
@MetalBum Жыл бұрын
Love it
@MetalBum Жыл бұрын
Where’s AVENGERS #1
@SBAVoltronProdt3 жыл бұрын
I’d probably change up the order for which books I would want first based on personal preferences but purely based on what I think the values should be your list is pretty spot on
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was trying to evaluate "objectively"...which is still impossible to do. I mean if I had my way you know Avengers 1 would be in my S+ tier :P
@DoctorDoom693 жыл бұрын
Great video man , I also highly respect the fact that you even put your own biases aside too , keep up the great work 🙌🏽⭐️
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@SleepynComics2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Lots of fun and I’m glad to own the S-tiers . This is great. I did a villain tier list a couple months back. But this was great
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Great job with your videos as well, been loving the ones I’ve seen. keep it up! Will have to check out the villain one.
@nathanielwalker55813 жыл бұрын
This list seems really spot-on for me. The one I'm least certain with here is XMen 1 because it's not as scarce as some others. FF is only A-tier for me because of its historical significance - I don't care for it much. S: AF15, Hulk 1 A: JIM 83, XMen 1, FF1, B: TOS 39, Avengers 1, Hulk 181 C: ASM 1, Daredevil 1, GSX 1 D: Strange Tales 110 , Tales to Astonish 27
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel you on your picks. I do agree that there are many more copies of Xmen 1, I just think its so desirable I had to elevate it.
@mr.nobodyscomics3 жыл бұрын
Oh lawdy Swaggs I was screaming at you before you even started talking about GSX to not even talk about it and move it straight to S tier, then you pulled the okie-doke and punted it to the basement, lmao. I was with you on all the other ones, but I am a person that is not an x-guy, and only randomly pay attention to the X-Men, but this issue is iconic in a way that is greater than the sum of it's first appearances, borne out in the recent market activity. But I'm not assigning it to the S tier for it's value, but rather that it was the spawn of probably the best known team of super-heroes world-wide in the history of comic books. Very cool exercise and I can't believe nobody in the community had thought of this before. Gamers throw these things out there on the daily. Nice work! Might try it myself.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
hehe my bad my bad...yeah I always enjoy watching videos like this so figured a comic book one could be fun. Maybe I can do a DC one or a Villain one next.
@SpectrumTF2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the list, but imma smack down on you with my comeback list
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
Look forward to it! :)
@zachbrobst94733 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Swaggle out here shattering worlds and breaking hearts! GSX S tier all day long👏👆🔥
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
lol, not one to stir up controversy :P but yeah the FF and GSX fans are gonna show up with pitchforks
@mr.ghidorah42023 жыл бұрын
In my opinion TOS 39 is an A tier. Besides that the list is spot on. Please do a DC tier list video.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I can see that for sure. Yeah I think I'll eventually do a DC one :)
@superultraboy2 жыл бұрын
Spot on man! This was enjoyable, please do more. And never knew about tiermaker 👍
@austincrafton1782 жыл бұрын
Great listing. My holy grail books would be black panther #1 1977, avengers #1,amazing fantasy #15, spiderman #1, hulk#1, Xmen #1.giant size xmen #1.jungle action #5 9.8.
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
Def some great books!!
@toasty-toast2 жыл бұрын
Super cool video. I have 4 copies of books in your S tier. One in your A and one in your B, and I literally bought them a month before your video came out. Great minds think alike!
@douglasohlandt67843 жыл бұрын
Agree for the most part. However, I would have FF 1 as S tier; the other books don’t exist without its success. I would move X-Men 1 down to A tier because early X-Men books are…. well, early X-Men books. GS X-Men 1 would be A list for me. This is where the X-Men as we know them started. Without it, X-Men would be Marvel’s Doom Patrol.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can understand your perspective on it. :)
@Maljig Жыл бұрын
FF1 is definitely a and s tier but x men 1 is also s tier
@basementbrotherscollectibles2 жыл бұрын
Here’s my order to invest: 1) AF15 2) ASM 1 3) Hulk 1 4) FF1 5) AV1 6) X-Men 1 7) JIM 83 8) TOS 39 9) GSX1 10) Hulk 181 11) DD1 12) ST110 13) TTA 27 Here is my actual order I would want: 1) AF15 2) ASM1 3) ST110 4) AV1 5) Hulk 1 6) FF1 7) X-Men 1 8) TOS39 9) JIM83 10) GSX1 11) DD1 12) TTA27 13) Hulk 181
@boombaman31 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Swagglehaus Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bruh_hahaha2 жыл бұрын
Great video, very entertaining. Your ranking is ON-POINT. Please keep doing these type of videos! Would be fun to see a Bronze, Copper, Independent, 1st Cover App, etc.
@colesonlamb59813 жыл бұрын
I think a cool video idea would be to go through these characters runs and rank the grails from that run. So like comparing all the ASM grails to each other, or all the X-Men grails, for example
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Ooooohhh, I like that idea! I might take you up on that, could be a fun series to do.
@vinniwhitlock70802 жыл бұрын
As a follow up to this video you should do a second appearance of silver and Bronze Age characters…keep up the great work 🤘🤘🤘
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
I think I will!...also villains too :)
@robertpenn46903 жыл бұрын
Solid list but imo TTA deserves a bump in the tier. That book is super scarce in any grade and he has been heavily featured in the MCU. Marvel Comics #1 should be included on this list right next to AF #15
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah no doubt Marvel Comics 1 would be S-tier...I just figured I'd keep it more to the silver age books.
@alexanderishere1857 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your list except for two. Xmen 1 I would bump down at least one spot. And Daredevil the same.
@azb-comics3 жыл бұрын
Tales of suspense #39 is for me a S tier. Iron man is my ultimate favourite superhero of all heroes. Love his so so much .
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's awesome, I could maybe move him up a rung to A-tier for sure
@scooobydoo273 жыл бұрын
Swap Hulk and FF and your list is better.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, if that's what you think :)
@Puddin_Tame3 жыл бұрын
Daredevil DID have a "C tier" movie. Not from the 70's but from 1989. It's called "The Trial of the Incredible Hulk," a back-door pilot for a Daredevil TV series, which never happened.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about that! I'll have to check it out
@comicjourney3 жыл бұрын
I think there's a significant amount of bias in your choices, which is ok because this is just an opinion based list more than a definitive list. I also think you excluded certain other exceptionally significant grails to the list. You failed to include any of the original Captain America and Submarinor original Timely Comics. They are still part of the Marvel Continuity and should be ignored considering they are at the top echelon of not only Marvel Grails but all comics period.. In addition, Marvel Spotlight 5 in my opinion should have been included. The Ghost Rider character broke ground in many ways and through recent record breaking sales has proven that it truly is worthy of Grail status.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
For sure. I had thought about including Cap #1, MS5, etc...but just wanted to keep it to the usual suspects as far as Marvel Comics are concerned. Maybe in the future I can revisit and add more books/characters.
@comicjourney3 жыл бұрын
@@Swagglehaus Capn os definitely a usual suspect. BTW, make sure Newbie doesn't see where you ranked Tales of Suspense 39 🤣🤣🤣
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
@@comicjourney haha I won't :D
@jessepires69363 жыл бұрын
This was a fun video. I respect the list but FF for me is S tier simply because the story Stan Lee tells behind it. Historically it's value cant be overstated when it comes to the Marvel franchise. Also for me personally would flip flop ASM1 and DareDevil's positions but the rest of the list I am good with.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I totally get your feeling on FF1, it was hard for me to not put it in S-tier...but maybe after we get the MCU movie I'll totally change my mind on it.
@johnmichael72763 жыл бұрын
Really liked this vid. Set close to what I would have ranked. FF in the top tier for me though. Right after FF15
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! yeah I think that's fair, FF could def be at the top for many people.
@magicgeeks19553 жыл бұрын
I think your ranking are close to mine. However, the first appearance of iron man is one of the coolest covers out there.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
You think so? I mean I do like the teal color...but I just wish it was a little more dynamic. But that's cool you like it.
@troygard51952 жыл бұрын
Thankful for the content! Keep it up swag
@tonymiles2732 жыл бұрын
Fun video, no right or wrong answers, it's all subjective. It is funny how torqued up people can get though.
@rocketfighter82 жыл бұрын
Great video and new subscriber. I own 10 of the 13 (minus FF1, ASM1 and TTA27). When deciding which Ant-Man comic to get I opted for TTA35 instead of 27 because it had Hank Pym in costume for the first time, was a better cover and most important a lot cheaper.
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for checking out the channel! I LOVE the TTA 35 cover. Would love to get that one for myself one day
@raleighcomicbookcollector3 жыл бұрын
ST110 - I would but in 'B' as Doctor Strange is (or will be) Peter Parker's new mentor. Daredevil I am biased and I hate to admit but based on not YET showing up in an MCU movie 'B' is probably correct. ToS 39 I put in front of all in row 'A' as he really is the Grand Daddy of Marvel characters in the MCU.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I can see that :)
@sirroxalot2 жыл бұрын
You missed the ultimate S Tier book; The Awesome Slapstick.
@djnfbrhkelkondwvb68533 ай бұрын
Cap 1 should be on this list imo
@BloopComics3 жыл бұрын
ASM 1 in C tier!? You can't be doing spidey like that!....lol, just messing around. Great video, cool concept!
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
haha, my bad, I know feels so wrong to put it there but I felt like I had to.
@pjmorris19722 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Swagg 👌🏻
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnbigdaddyross21583 жыл бұрын
I was with you until X-Men #1...I hate those costumes...I would have that in the A tier. I almost bought one this year, 4.0...but someone drew a face on Iceman...ugh. I sold my ASM1...and have owned several copies of Hulk 181 and GSX1...currently sitting on a DD1 and looking for a JIM83. Good Job on the video. Thank you.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
hehe, yeah the costumes are def not the best but I just have so much love for Xmen :P
@modius61243 жыл бұрын
I agree with most rankings (sound justifications for each) but....the Giant Size is a little low on your scale. Like the 181 not super hard to find in a low grade, but being a square bound book makes it harder to find in high grades and there are multiple 1st appearances in the book.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point for sure, yeah maybe if I revisit I could bump that book up to B
@jasonw34793 жыл бұрын
Think I'd swap Hulk with Fantastic Four and Avengers with Giant Size X-Men for my tier list. I'd like to move Daredevil up, but then I'd be biased, 😄.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
hehe, yeah that makes sense or I mean I can see that approach :)
@jerryp77212 жыл бұрын
Generally agree. One in the A tier ( 181). Rest fall in the next tiers. Have given up on Hulk, X-men and AF due to price and lack of trading opportunities. Glad yo have most of the others!
@MetalBum Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda crazy that takes to astonish -the ant man has three block buster disney/MCU movies and is a D Lister 😅😅😅 but yeah ant man isn’t as popular That comic is rare though. Also strange tales 110 is undervalued and underrated with dr arranges MCU and comic book impact
@hankscorpion99393 жыл бұрын
Very well argued. I think I agree with all of them. Where would you put FF 52?
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hmm, I'd have to think about it. I mean I personally think its an EXCELLENT 1st appearance. Great character, Great cover, etc. I would probably put it in the A-tier category.
@hankscorpion99393 жыл бұрын
@@Swagglehaus Same here. I can see it cementing a place near the top more and more over time. And as first appearance covers go, it's hard to beat.
@wg85612 жыл бұрын
Great list, but I'd like to see FF 48 on here as well. Silver surfer is a great character with an amazing origin story and important in marvel cosmic stories. While we're at it how about the punisher?😁
@IronMikeNelson3 жыл бұрын
I was hovering over the dislike button while you were discussing Daredevil #1, but I'll take B tier! ;) Thumbs up!
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
lolol, what's funny is I was totally thinking about how you might react to where I placed the book :P
@benji34553 жыл бұрын
It hurts to see a giant size x-men #1 because my dad had a 6.0 copy and sold it for nothing 😢
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Hey GSX1 is an AMAZING book....I would trade a ton of stuff in my collection for one :)
@grahamodom28192 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see Avengers 4 isn’t on this list!
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
I thought about including it, but with the caveat of it being the "silver age" appearance I wasn't sure if I should. Maybe next time
@user-vl9yy6ku3w8 ай бұрын
Hey swag! Could you do one for DC! I’d love to see it!
@DanielGoldMcduckRose3 жыл бұрын
I’d say that Spider-Man is 1 because of miles adds a lot value. Dc has been going down in other forms of media, for Batman after Arkham games and Nolan trilogy. animated and comics have been consistent been good.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think Batman could potentially be number 1 as well.
@danconner82993 жыл бұрын
If someone laid out all of these books in front of me , all in a CGC 8.0 and gave me a random number of picks , that could end after any pick without me knowing when, which ones would I choose? 1. AF 15 S tier for sure 2. Incredible Hulk #1 S Tier for sure 2. Amazing Spiderman #1 S tier 3. X-men #1 S Tier 4. FF #1 A Tier 5. JIM #83 A tier 6. TOS #39 A Tier 7. Avenger #1 B Tier 8. IH #181 B Tier 9. Strange Tales #110 C Tier 10 . TTA #27 D Tier 11. GSX #1 D Tier
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Nice...i can see why you would go the way you did with them!
@keithkovalic Жыл бұрын
People SHOULD meme on Daredevil's appearance in "Trial of the Incredible Hulk." Just saying.....
@crzdcolombian2 жыл бұрын
Depends when you were born... also Pre MCU would be insanely different. Would be Amazing Fantasy 15, X-Men 1, Hulk 181, Spider-man 1, Fantastic 4 #1. After MCU - X-men items replaced by Cap and Iron man. I don't even know the issues where Iron Man, Dr. Strange or Thor appeared. You say Amazing Fantasy 15 or Detective Comics 27 and people instantly know what it means.
@MarkHuynh72 жыл бұрын
Would u say marvel tales 137 and 138 are heavily undervalued atm? As they are 40 years old and are reprints of the original covers?
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
I def think those two books will always have a place in the market...I could see them being sought after for sure.
@MarkHuynh72 жыл бұрын
@@Swagglehaus I pick them both up in a 9.8 Marvel tales 137 only has 61 copies of 9.8 in the world and marvel tails 138 only has 28 copies of 9.8 in the world
@thanoskelly25393 жыл бұрын
i would rather have ASM 1 before FF1 and x-men 1
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I can understand why you would if you're a big Spider-man fan
@joffrecastro17833 жыл бұрын
I would keep S, A, D spot that you have put but have to change B and C spit and switch those spots and even pump up the spider man iss up to the A spot and for X-Men one up that is how I see it like that
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
For sure, I can see that :)
@echo.comics74413 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna do DC? I know marvel is more popular atm but i like DC and would like some more vids about them
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would love to do more videos like this, including a DC one in the future.
@MetalBum Жыл бұрын
Hey what about punisher, ghost rider and namor!!
@Chaos-Tord-is-bord-chaos2 жыл бұрын
This is a hard list on which to decide! Lol but definitely think FF 1 should be S!
@jameslawry32943 жыл бұрын
*Sees no Fantastic Four 5 *Sad Doom noises
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
This was for "Super Hero's" only :P...I'll do a villain one at some point.
@dogwheeze2 жыл бұрын
I think FF needs to be top of the tree, it's what kickstarted everything else... Its like saying Hendrix isn't the best guitarist, sacrilege! 😊
@Swagglehaus2 жыл бұрын
heh, yeah that's the book I knew people would have strong feedback on :P
@sdk21463 жыл бұрын
You're crazy to think FF1 is less important than Hulk 1 or xmen1. No one even likes the xmen1 team, just the gsx team..
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
mmm, agree to disagree. I think X-men has a much larger fanbase than FF.
@comicbookninja52683 жыл бұрын
Do one for DC now.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
That would be fun, maybe sometime in the near future :)
@Mark_Fitzpatrick3 жыл бұрын
Do a DC Ranking??
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I think I will in the future :)
@hipoopy7773 жыл бұрын
What about Captain America #1? Or are you just looking at Silver Age stuff?
@hipoopy7773 жыл бұрын
Tier S - Marvel #1, AF#15, Captain America #1 Tier A - FF #1, Hulk #1, JIM #83, X-Men #1 Tier B - TOS #39, Strange Tales 110, Spider-man #1 Tier C - TTA #27, DD#1, Avengers #1 Tier D - Hulk #181, GSX#1 (maybe even add FF#48 and #52 in this tier)
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I thought about that one, but figured I should stick to the "Silver Age" stuff...or I guess comics that were published by Marvel :)
@rhysmorris46822 жыл бұрын
Watching some of your old videos. I love your show but respectfully disagree on your rankings. AF#15 is in a tier of its own. Tier two is FF#1 followed by Hulk #1. No way JIM#83 tops FF#1. Putting Hulk#181 in the same tier as FF#1 I cannot agree with at all. They are exactly 13 years apart. There are roughly 2,700 CGC graded Hulk#181s 9.0 and above. There are only 19 copies of FF#1 graded 9.0 and above. For me FF#48 and #52 would come before Giant Size X-Men #1. I'd put TTA#27 before ST#110. Hank Pym pre-dates Hulk and AF#15. He pre-dates ST#110 by 1.5 years. Finally, if you are going to throw Giant Size X-men #1 in the mix I think you would have to consider Marvel Spotlight #5 too. It pre-dates GSX-Men by 3 years. It's a black cover. There are 210 CGC 9.8 Giant Size X-Men. There are only four 9.8 Marvel Spotlight #5s. Anyway, good stuff Maynard.
@MrPelletty Жыл бұрын
xmen is an A tier book. there are too many versions of the xmen and over time the characters will be used less and the desirability to have this book will go down. I prefer Justice league to Xmen. much more iconic.
@chuckg49053 жыл бұрын
Only one u were way off on was Dr Strange. Its B tier for sure.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I feel ya, its an awesome book. I wanted to put it higher, but based on how I personally was evaluating the tier list, I had to put it at the bottom.
@chuckg49053 жыл бұрын
@@Swagglehaus like u said it's very subjective. To me Dr. Strange is just such a huge character I have to put him higher. Happy to say I own 3 of these grails presently and owned 2 of them that I sold. I have Avengers 1 GSX 1 and Hulk 181. Still kicking myself for selling my JIM 83 and DD 1! Cool video dude! Very enjoyable!
@brightnewage7491 Жыл бұрын
Wheres Marvels 1 and Captain America 1
@ryan892 Жыл бұрын
Hey swag you are aware of VeVe yes?
@marioch42593 жыл бұрын
Avengers 4???
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of adding that one to the mix...but had to "Cap" it somewhere :P. Maybe if I revisit the video I'll add more to the list like A4 or FF4 or Xmen4 etc.
@hugoballs23762 жыл бұрын
No captain america 1 ?
@camm86422 жыл бұрын
lol mcu defintely did alot to boost up ironman he would not be that high on my tier list.......also ff4 should be s tier there the foundation
@uFELLA3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but putting any book other than AF15 and IH1 ahead of FF1 can only happen if you either don't know or don't appreciate Marvel's history. So I'm assuming this vid was for fun (not educational)? It's always fun to discuss keys, so we can't be too mad at the disrespect toward FF1. But that was a noob mistake. Seriously.
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate the history of FF1 and mentioned all the good things about it. But I stand by the books I placed above it, (which by your account is only 2 others). Relax dude.
@uFELLA3 жыл бұрын
@@Swagglehaus We have enough of these fluffy, non-substantive vids designed just to add up page views, don't we? Are you just touching on the surface of topics for the purpose of churning out yet another video? If you are going to discuss the big books, put the work in. FF1 is not a book for which it would matter in the least whether FF were in their costumes yet! Oh boy. Just some advice. Researd is your friend.
@JM-jv6cb3 жыл бұрын
181 to high
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
Where would you have put it? To me its A-tier, but its just my opinion :)
@JM-jv6cb3 жыл бұрын
Swagglehaus Comics & Games he can stay in A. But I just think Iron Man has to be in front of it. I’d put it in B after iron man. It’s Wolverine. It’s 1970’s best maybe. But it’s no iron man. Good list though. 👍
@nickhall90866 ай бұрын
Wolverine and spider man are the two characters that transcend the genre …they are marvels Superman and Batman in terms of pop culture impact 🤷♂️ I think this list is pretty good and iron man 😂 pre mcu had zero impact hell daredevil is better in terms of impact the frank miller run changed comics and has been the most consistently well written character on the entire list….i don’t understand the arguments for Thor ,iron man ,avengers ,strange tales or tales to astonish the characters were terrible….a list is debatable but this is fact without the mcu those characters would be d list🤷♂️ there is a reason marvel retained their rights when they were poached by fox,Sony etc….and that’s because they sucked and nobody cared for them
@JM-jv6cb3 жыл бұрын
Iron man kills wolverine
@SBAVoltronProdt3 жыл бұрын
I would have put FF1 lower hahaha stick it to em 😂
@Swagglehaus3 жыл бұрын
haha, I think Bry would defriend us if I put the book in the B-tier level :P.