I love personally love them as well

That was very sad XD

You should do a 24h stream playing only Cove but without Cassio as main hero just to wash this huge oversite !!

Nymphs are Grotto feeders for me. Oceanids are high speed scouters unless we have Ayssids, but then Oceanids are Grotto feeders as well. They are rather solid in C tier if you ask me. Not much given to them and who gives a damn about their Ice immunity when their defensive stats are made out of paper?

You have a unit from Forge and not from Cove lol

I understand your point, but even with other necro units the skeletons can do much (but they become insanely good with necromancy ability And some magic)

The only problem is that they die easily, which means that all this necromancy work doesnt pay off much :( Ps: just use vampire lords

Yeah :D Very much agreed.

Agreed. But they are S tier, and everyone who disagrees is wrong ;)

+1

week 3 capitol gang ^^ (never week 2, you loose too much unit production from that)

@@lucasstr5653 For me- it is also week ~3-4 capitol. But that is because I want very slow maps- so I choose to play on impossible, and with house rules that make things harder/riskier, and only play maps that have basic resources very much blocked, so that it takes weeks to actually gather enough to build up to anything expensive/high tier. Just so I can experience tier 1, 2, 3, and weak armies longer..

I dont enjoy because he is only Plays jebus cross mod which butchering and streamlining the game, İts not heroes 3 anymore

same

Maybe because they aren't undead so they are more morale frindly when mixing armies of different factions.

@@Hardcore_Remixer You can turn this the other way. Skeletons cannot be blinded or lose morale for example.

Ims can be skellies, if you want. And they can do something else too. Skellies can only be skellies.

@@Self-replicating_whatnot Yeah, but if you play necro it's not like you would go for diplomacy to make imps join you. Sure if you don't play necro and skellies join you it's quite hard to decide if you want to keep them or not because they give you a straight -2 morale.

@@Hardcore_Remixer Inferno would prefer imps because they are better on lava terrain. Necro doesn't give a fuck they are all skeles at the end of the day. Let's now consider a neutral scenario, where you are playing neither Necro nor Inferno but some other town, which one would you rather have - imps or skeles? Even if your troops are elementals or you have leadership and so morale is not an immediate issue?

WH OMEGALUL

Wtf HI dude

Yooo Vandiril here? Next video of Vandiril : how to one shot 1 azure drake with 1 peasant.

Vandiril jest Polakiem? :D Jeju, nie wiedziałam^^

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That's the point, they are shit in quality so you beat it with quantity.

Yeah but he take the accesibility of the unit in his rating, skeletons are so easy to spam that would make them s tier you can res more skeleton then you lose aswell

but now imagine if you recruit skeletons as another faction

I disliked the video as soon as he placed them on tier D

@@GRIMHOOD99 actually the upgrade isn't the worst tier 1 unit, so you can stack up even scarier unit

WAAAAAAAAAAAAT, in SoD too? I only have the original game

I did indeed not know that.

Nothing like a aoe2 reference

Why?

​@@LeaksHaterirl, spears were the main way to "counter" cavalry

11:29 Getting Banned from the game without playing it - speed run - Any percentage - No cheats, No admin or fanbase mercy

I think its because you can easily mass-produce gremlins meanwhile you will never get a halfling stack so big that it could ever deal significant damage. That's the major issue whit almost every neutral by the way.

you not get as much of them

No retaliation makes them clearly better than Oceanids imo. Kites almost anything like Harpies etc. Oceanids have hight max damage, triple the attack of Sprites so that's good. 1 less speed & teleport ability(for kiting again), but you get 16 more sprites per week. Both are very good.

yeah, Skeletons in D tier is 100% bias and he really didn't hide it. Realistically they're top of A tier at a minimum.

They're kind of bad because they are only good when you have Galthran and a ton of them. But in decisive fights you may need to mix armies of different factions (especially in multiplayer fights). In this case Skeletons and all other undead units are a straight minus 2 morale. Still they deserved at least a low C tier just beside Skeleton Warriors because of the availability (either upgrade them in necropolis or keep all slots ocupied with Skeleton Warriors). Also no bless for the skellies.

@@Hardcore_Remixer Like yes, I agree that they're pretty trash outside of necro, but they also DEFINE necro in a way no other tier 1 unit can claim. Thanks to necromancy, they manage to stay relevant at all points of the game.

@@webbowser8834 I wouldn't be so sure about ALL points of ANY game. On jc eventually you must mix armies to get an actual strong army. I only once have seen a player gathering Skelies on a jc map and it was 2v2 so no ranking at stakes.

Only 100 master gremlins will do 1000 damage, if a genie blesses them with a couple good spells. Frenzy & bless will be enough. 1000 damage with 1-2 base damage is fucking madness. And the genies rarely cast spells that make no sense at all. They are very often logical spells for ranged units. And who cares. 6 1 stacks of them will cast the right spells 99% of the time.

They are :D But what makes them so good is 1) Animate dead 2) Their insane numbers The unit itself sucks so much tho ) Despite this these two factors make them one of the most relevant units in the entire game, despite sucking.

Skeleton Transformer is huge too

Nahh they nerf the necromancer skills on Horn of Abyss still skeleton is still the best

Not any specific links. Just based on experience, when playing templates such as Jebus King, the go to choice for started hero is Ignatius, and then you use a familiar power stack to rush into pickets. This is the most common way to get started these days. A little while back it used to be Calh all the way, so meta changed over the past few years.

Along with pixes. No way

@@yanidimitrov3958 In squishiness, pixies is after peasants by my experience. But their potential to be upgraded to No-retal/faster Sprites... Err, I still don't like to use Sprites because they are too glassy cannons, so I don't waste a turn and money to build their upgrade building early.

1) Very rarely used due to it being somewhat unoptimal to build upg. Guardhouse. 2) Slow. Slowness leads them to get hit quite a bit, compared to centaurs who can slay everyone without getting hit, meaning you bleed less of them over the game.

Basically just a large stack of one type of creatures- the large amount makes them powerful

Thing is, in PvP you have to play very optimally, and when you play optimally you don't really get hit a lot at all, or at least do your best not to. With this type of gameplay faster and more damage heavy units will end up coming on top. That's why Centaur Captains are what i would consider to be an almost perfect unit. Speedy enough to almost never get hit and also enough dmg to oneshot to not have to face retals.

wrr

Low usability. What I'm rating is their actual practical usage, not just looking at numbers without context. They are slow, so using them as a powerstack is difficult. Unless you have animate dead spam, you will be bleeding some in every fight that you take, making them very unpractical. And if you do have animate dead/ressurection spam, then that's the spells carrying, not the unit being good, in my opinion.

@@Lexiav okay, i get it, but also they have necromancy growing after all fights..

or worse....ghosts!

After a long time, yesterday I played the Grim Reaper map again (a map where AI Necro faction vs 5 AI/human other factions)... and this time I finished it (with my 8 year old child play-mode) with Wizard faction. I developed 2 characters: a wizard and a sorceress, planning that with one I will attack while with the other I defend. The sorceress got better abilities in the end, I used her more. I also got to have Dimension Door, Town Gate and Resurrect True (from two different finished magic guilds) which was like a real necessity... The AI almost always had some living units in their army (mostly peasants) so I could just blind them then used Resurrect True on most of my damaged army... The Knight and Warlock factions have fallen, the Barbarian and Sorceress factions in the end just ended up doing nothing (they were circling around the same spot, coming in/out of their castles, boarding and leaving boats...), maybe because I played on Easy difficulty or the AI allies there are just stupid. But still it was such a game! Holy cow... Found some results on youtube on how some people beat this map on impossible difficulty.

Master Gremlins are the only Tier 1 ranged units, and they can help greatly early on to avoid damage to your units against neutral stacks. Moreover with advanced bless they dmg is 3 which can be pretty big with their numbers. So S tier is not that surprising (though A could be a bit more accurate). His rating of Gnolls and Imps are certainly biased, both of them are trash units and of the worst in the tier, while pikeman and halberdier easily A tier. And skeletons are S tier without question, and he admits that his list is biased, so you shouldn't take it too seriously

@@fenrirr22 From town yes - but actually halfings are also tier 1 and are way better - 1 hp more, 1 max dmg more and + 1 luck

Imps are speed 5 and have an specialist. They're also in the castle that let's you sacrifice them for Demon's and with the Grail that could benefit them the most. Don't missunderstandme, they're trash.

Yeah, it's weird logically... as this rating is based on reverse ABC order right? In other games/entertainments too: F tier > E tier > D tier > C tier > B tier > A tier >... S tier???? Well, there is no more word before A, so should it be like... "0" tier XD

@@vicusdanielson639 superior, supreme, super ... Jesus Christ

@@bosnbruce5837 Clearly, here it's about how the notation system was made. Because then define A B C D E F too with these starting letters... Jesus Christ

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And demon farming?

@@phatxity9948 is more harder to get demons when a peasant have one hp

@@justacatwithghostlygibus9823 and for experience?

@@phatxity9948 farming scheletons goes brrrr