[RARE ATC] INCOMPETENT PILOT DRIVES ATC CRAZY!!!

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@martinpauly 6 жыл бұрын

That ground controller deserves a medal for his patience.

@geoh7777 5 жыл бұрын

They should call in his flight instructor and play this tape for him.

@allyw7405 5 жыл бұрын

Rata 4U that’s the smartest dumb thing I’ve heard recently

@Runoratsu 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, how the hell did that pilot pass his check ride and stuff?!

@catalinb5603 5 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, as a civilian, that pilot is not ready to fly. I also think that flying is not only about the pilots ability to steer the plane, but also to be able to communicate properly. What would of happen if, let's say, equipment malfunctioned, for instance, GPS?

@Dowlphin 5 жыл бұрын

He might be getting a call from the destination's controller, haha. - "Why did you send me this PITA??"

@coach714 4 жыл бұрын

The only question missing from ground controller was, "Is your flight instructor available?"

@AmyAnnLand 4 жыл бұрын

I wish so badly that had happened. They both seemed like very nice guys so I wonder how the pilot would've reacted.

@happywrenching960 2 жыл бұрын

lol

@Southwest_923WR 2 жыл бұрын

🤷🏿‍♂

@johnbaxster8010 2 жыл бұрын

hes down in spruce creek waiting on me over....does this thing have enough fuel to get there nonstop...over?

@drmayeda1930 Жыл бұрын

@@johnbaxster8010 The atc I feel sorry for is in the control centers between the departure and arrival points. This was just the clearance. The actual flying part will be much harder.

@jacobaubertin645 4 жыл бұрын

I knew we were in for a headache when he ended every transmission with "over."

@kekelaward 3 жыл бұрын

Over.

@fjb4932 3 жыл бұрын

Jacob, It could have been worse, he could have said "...sssh, Over."

@albovell 3 жыл бұрын

The best part is he ended the sentence with ”over”, and then continued 😂

@jimarcher5255 2 жыл бұрын

@@albovell could have said over, roger and Wilco.

@adg1702 2 жыл бұрын

a few times the over came before he was done talking

@Mike_Sierra_2711 5 жыл бұрын

Legend says, N530JP is still on that airport trying to figure out what to do...

@jeova0sanctus0unus 4 жыл бұрын

@N578MD STOP

@nic3271 4 жыл бұрын

TKI is my home airport and I can confirm that I have never seen him so who knows

@flankerskioneniner4290 4 жыл бұрын

N530JP : "Is my readback correct ?" ATC : "wait there"

@WhyCallMeLordLord 3 жыл бұрын

He actually gave up flying and owns the diner at the airport now. photos-e1.flightcdn.com/photos/retriever/47e97591507257d1d9e6097591762b68feae1a28

@hughjass3434 3 жыл бұрын

The fact this guy has an intrument rating is insane

@rennied2 5 жыл бұрын

After all that, "request departure off runway 18". I nearly died.

@AmyAnnLand 4 жыл бұрын

And the poor, patient controller's sigh in response. It spoke more than the whole conversation.

@dx1450 3 жыл бұрын

@@AmyAnnLand Because he knew he was going to have to go over new departure instructions several times.

@gvc76 3 жыл бұрын

As if he was trolling them.

@insomnia20422 3 жыл бұрын

so did the controller...

@djninjamusic 3 жыл бұрын

This was the moment when I lost it 😂

@slappymcgillicuddy7532 4 жыл бұрын

if you listen closely to you can hear the controller's soul slowly leaving his body

@rocketcab Жыл бұрын

.... BEST COMMENT....

@MidnightSt 3 жыл бұрын

"JP, your flight clearance has been cancelled until you get an actual pilot into the cockpit, ATC over."

@loganruckwardt2536 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@davidhackamack4143 2 жыл бұрын

Classic comment 👍👍

@MDE_never_dies Жыл бұрын

"Departure clearance cancelled please taxi to the GA Apron, I have the number of a flight school I want you to call to get your pilot license"

@lyingcat9022 Жыл бұрын

Copy that, WillCo… over.

@ChristopherSaindon 5 жыл бұрын

ATC: *"I have a number for you to call, but you wouldn't write that down or remember it either!"*

@ChristopherSaindon 3 жыл бұрын

@The Boeing Kid :)

@MuhammedGemci 3 жыл бұрын

Ya'now what? Will give ya a private frequency to do the call, as you seem to be able to remember frequencies! Over!

@fubaralakbar6800 8 жыл бұрын

"Equipment departure" Oh God help us all...

@OAlison 4 жыл бұрын

Fubar AlAkbar so-lo........had me laughing

@brodrick3164 4 жыл бұрын

He should have saved atc some frustration and departed the equipment before he tried to get clearance to taxi.

@psycho.dad5252 4 жыл бұрын

i watched my engine take off without me, i wonder if it'll ever come back for me? OVER

@birdman4274 4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, it did easily sound like Equipment and maybe ATC should have done phonetic on that name. Pilot eventually must have seen it on his chart.

@Sarah.Riedel 4 жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw "Quitman" on the captions I just knew it was about to get really messy lol

@Piper8bw 7 жыл бұрын

This has to be the nicest controller i ever heard, he had some patience.

@carollyncheeyen 2 жыл бұрын

You mean he had a whale of a patience.

@faganfit572 2 жыл бұрын

If he were in San Juan he would have been torn to pieces😂.

@avproductions5184 4 жыл бұрын

“Equipment?” “Quitman.” “Kickmen?” “Quitman.” “Sickmen?” “Quitman.” “Clickban?” “Quitman.”

@Mark-pp7jy 3 жыл бұрын

Hilarious!

@gvc76 3 жыл бұрын

“What’s your vector, Victor?”

@youtub13 3 жыл бұрын

Flying solo to soldo in slo-mo

@avproductions5184 3 жыл бұрын

gvc76 “we have clearance, Clarence.”

@shangsty 3 жыл бұрын

lickmen?

@BigTArmada 5 жыл бұрын

Mooney: "ok, now that you've solved my problem I'd like to create another one"

@geraldmartsy2165 3 жыл бұрын

"Uhhh Tower 5 3 0 Juniper Poptart....change of plans...can I just yeet it off taxiway bravo....fly the 3000 radial for the Equipment Departure. Expect Han Solo niner minutes after departure. Over and out Juniper Poptart"

@ridernotrunner 3 жыл бұрын

@@geraldmartsy2165 I'm sitting here reading your comment and actually crying tears of laughter. Thank you. Juniper Poptart, Over.

@bobdonovan34 7 жыл бұрын

After watching this, I asked my wife to grab a pen, listen to what I say, and read it back to me. She nailed it on her first try. I believe this guy didn't even have a pen. Over.

@matthewkelly9804 7 жыл бұрын

thats funny, over

@matthewkelly9804 7 жыл бұрын

Did she include the equiptment departure? Over

@chrisgast 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know for myself when I fly, I would write everything down as much as I can. So that if I miss anything, I can go back and verify. After all, that's what the readback is about, too.

@bobdonovan34 7 жыл бұрын

yup yup. She got it all. Over.

@Nigel-Mac 7 жыл бұрын

Crying at this comment

@bombasticbuster9340 6 жыл бұрын

Kudos to the ATC! HE IS A KEEPER. He was very professional, patient, no arrogance, helpful.

@nanoflower1 3 жыл бұрын

He definitely went above and beyond what I would expect. My guess is this wasn't a very busy airport as I wouldn't expect the ATC to take that much time with a pilot that was clearly having trouble with the basics of getting underway.

@Southwest_923WR 2 жыл бұрын

Nailed it!👍🏿

@Penny-ts5ec 2 жыл бұрын

Sounded like his hearing was the problem! Soldo and Quitman had him thrown.

@KaiTakApproach 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. One of the good guys, for sure.

@BruceCarbonLakeriver Жыл бұрын

The ATC dude is literally doing an whole IFR course for this idiot of a pilot LOL

@kasplatz553 4 жыл бұрын

Now that I spent 10 minutes understanding my departure instructions, can I go ahead and invalidate those instructions and take off in the other direction? Thanks. Over.

@weepingeye 3 жыл бұрын

Felt like I was watching the opening scenario of an Aircrash Investigations episode.

@fallinginthed33p 3 жыл бұрын

The "Idiot In The Air" episode?

@lunicola8037 7 жыл бұрын

ATC has the patience of a saint.

@VASAviation 7 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@terryofford4977 7 жыл бұрын

I felt that the Controller was excellent, he didn't show sarcasm or get grumpy as the New Yorker ATC always seem to do However, having said that,Air Traffic Control is the poor man of aviation, shortage of staff, long hours, poor pay and yet everyone grumbles, the airline business is cut throat, money before anything else, time is money, hence the rush for clearences.Airline Pilots,especially the cheaper Airlines push their crews to maximum hours, take risks, and one aspect alone is the burn up of fuel whilst hanging around the hard standing,waiting for a push back, all told Airline operation and its affiliate controls are highly complex and the layman has no chance of ever understanding what really happens in the business. I would hope that people take sympathy and empathy with these guys, whose woraday task is somewhat tougher than managing a business or serving drinks.

@edfromchowderheads1312 7 жыл бұрын

Terry Offord it's a shame in a the early years of your career in the aviation the pay and hours are usually considerably poor.

@MidnightSky69 7 жыл бұрын

Terry Offord is it really the case in the us? in europe atc personnel are payed very, very well.

@basgroupllc 7 жыл бұрын

Amen to that!

@MidnightSky69 7 жыл бұрын

its unbeliveable how a pilot can be actually sitting in an aircraft with this devastating level of unpreparedness.

@martintheiss743 5 жыл бұрын

why not tell him to call this phone number for pizza so he takes off with some food? (um, not that number).

@vanquishedcanadian6424 4 жыл бұрын

Sir, I have a number for you to call... uhh I think its your wife.

@davidf2244 4 жыл бұрын

He doesn't even know how to use the radio, over.

@davidf2244 4 жыл бұрын

@Rata 4U Roger that, over.

@mikepaz4870 4 жыл бұрын

He’s a great orthopedic surgeon though

@ICECOOLJK 4 жыл бұрын

05:15 That great moment of silence & deep sigh from the ATC when he asked for Rwy 18 🤣🤣🤣

@rokacio143 4 жыл бұрын

The moment he says ,,Over” you know this is gonna be a difficult one.

@Quasihamster 7 жыл бұрын

"Solo. Han-Solo." "No, that's not right!"

@Hypinoss 7 жыл бұрын

You don't know how hard I looked for errors in your spelling.

@unusualbydefault 7 жыл бұрын

well, he's liviing up to his name.....rare occurrence :D

@Stormchaserda18th 7 жыл бұрын

I heard "from so-lo"

@erynncollier8672 7 жыл бұрын

I find it more likely that the 'Han' part was simply a memory aid he was using to recall information.

@sebimoe 7 жыл бұрын

+Erynn Collier Good observation, personally I think pen and paper are a bit better memory aid :d

@mkatze2552 5 жыл бұрын

"Heading uhh 3,000" I don't think a compass goes to 3,000...

@seraphina985 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe it does in whatever parallel universe this guys head was in when he should have been listening to the instructions.

@SomeRandomGuy789 5 жыл бұрын

If you take 300 and add another zero it does XD

@pbatez 5 жыл бұрын

if it belongs to Chuck Norris it does #crapchucknorrisjokes

@Dowlphin 5 жыл бұрын

It's 120 degrees after an 8-fold shuriken maneuver.

@labeachgeek 5 жыл бұрын

@M. Katze It's the new math.

@Soandnb 3 жыл бұрын

"Uh... (Deep sigh)" *I felt that.*

@Tmanaz480 3 жыл бұрын

"Hyacyinth, this is Daisey. Daddy's got out again. He's got his bomber jacket and helmet on and said he's heading to the airport..."

@Ayeshteni 3 жыл бұрын

Lol. That's what you get when you put a 'Bucket' in a plane...

3 жыл бұрын

@Tmanaz480 Very good!

@joekerr3638 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ayeshteni it’s bouquet.

@claytonmoore9530 3 жыл бұрын

Best use of a “Keeping Up Appearances” quote ever 😂

@Disraeli82 3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh Daddy! Still bravely facing the Luftwaffe after all these years!

@justincase5272 7 жыл бұрын

"Mooney 30JP, you are cleared to your living room easy chair via own navigation. Please advise FAA upon arrival..."

@jomomma8754 4 жыл бұрын

This one cracked me up, over

@M_C_696 3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao, I laughed for 5 minutes straight reading this comment. Best laugh Ive had in months

@joynthis 7 жыл бұрын

Seems like after a minute of this they should concentrate on helping him park the airplane.

@Markyroson 7 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right

@roberth5435 5 жыл бұрын

Here is what happens when a conversation like this takes place in the air: The supervisor stands behind the controller. If the pilot asks for a change, like a direct routing, the answer will be "Unable at this time." It's also possible that this was a training flight. In that case, if the CFII was earning her money, she would sit quietly, prepared to save the day if there was true danger. This guy was still on the ground. There was no immediate danger. Incipient danger, but none yet realized.

@newname4405 5 жыл бұрын

Robert Hadow Not to mention, better to sort it out on the ground. All these people shitting on him isn’t encouraging anyone else unsure of what they’re doing, and much better to admit that then pretend. Especially if it was training that makes sense, except then he certainly should have had a notepad out and had no problem at least copying it. I guess the quitman thing knocked him off, but why not just ask for a spelling? Still, I guess you gotta learn somehow..

@dldc9 4 жыл бұрын

LOL you're right!

@vtwinbreed 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure training flights dont go across 5 states

@wmsnowboarding336 3 жыл бұрын

That voice crack when saying "QUITman VOR" is priceless @3:51"

@aaronhiggins986 4 жыл бұрын

Never heard “over” used while talking to atc before

@geoffreyorsini3779 6 жыл бұрын

After all of that and he has the balls to ask for a particular runway

@hansbaeker9769 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps he was looking for a grass strip but couldn't find one.

@glishskiii 8 жыл бұрын

Every time he said "over" I wanted to punch something

@uavpilot6715 8 жыл бұрын

I wondered, how he got his Aeronautical Flight Radio Certificate in the 1st place.

@GreaterThanADeer 8 жыл бұрын

There is no radio operators license required for domestic US flights

@chillzonemaster4553 8 жыл бұрын

He said So-lo then he said HAN SOLO! 3:52-57

@charlescunningham1872 7 жыл бұрын

(face palm)... no that's not right

@Piper8bw 7 жыл бұрын

I caught that hans solo myself, I guess he was watching star wars the night before.

@t0n4us 3 жыл бұрын

"Flying radar vectors to the Kessel run departure over Leia via Solo then direct transition. Expecting less than 12 parsecs. Over." "Readback correct, send it!"

@sstrick500 3 жыл бұрын

And after all of that fiasco, the pilot says, 'Can I get the opposite runway?" OMG

@AbdulazizAlmawash 2 жыл бұрын

No. Winds were VARIABLE and i guess it was at 4kts when he said it. So that IS doable. I took off with an airplane behind me departing the opposite direction once in similar conditions + when the traffic was really heavy at the hold short points. Excuse my English.

@Matt-ox2qc 2 жыл бұрын

Not that big of a deal. The SID is flyable with the opposite runway

@Matt-ox2qc 2 жыл бұрын

@@AbdulazizAlmawash Did they get rid of that departure there? I can't find it anymore

@AbdulazizAlmawash 2 жыл бұрын

@@Matt-ox2qc from your previous comment i’m assuming you’re talking instrument stuff, we were all flying VFR (student pilots)

@AbdulazizAlmawash 2 жыл бұрын

@@Matt-ox2qc and before you get confused i was talking in general + my experience at KSLN airport, not the one in the video

@credence7777777 7 жыл бұрын

is ATC allowed to just say "listen dude, you're too dumb to fly" and ground him?

@Markyroson 7 жыл бұрын

Other comments I have read have said that they indeed could have but that that particular controller is beyond patient and used to new flyers asking questions (commenter apparently flies out of airport and knows that ATC controller)

@louist103 6 жыл бұрын

Kennedy Steve would have

@nathanmcguire932 4 жыл бұрын

They don’t have to issue him a clearance or allow him to taxi, or clear him to takeoff. So yes lol

@Mostlyharmless1985 4 жыл бұрын

yes, but then they have to deal with him on the ground.

@gamer34551 4 жыл бұрын

@@Mostlyharmless1985 Dealing with an idiot on the ground is better than dealing with a hazard in the air.

@PilotPartner 8 жыл бұрын

So painful to listen to.. Rule number 1 of IFR clearance... Listen and write and DO NOT THINK! Just write what he tells you... Then read back exactly what you wrote. Then pull out your charts and GPS and plug in those instructions. If anything doesn't make sense, call back and ask...

@centremedicalsaintjean3839 8 жыл бұрын

I agree. Rule number one LISTEN AND WRITE THEN READ BACK Greetings

@IMReader 8 жыл бұрын

Ahem. I would also suggest knowing how to do it without your GPS (Provided you have the right Quitman... errr, equipment).

@pgraquel 8 жыл бұрын

The ATC is also wrong!! He gave instructions that were too long!! Instructions like that must be given in a paused way.

@IMReader 8 жыл бұрын

+pgraquel I actually disagree... The onus is on the pilot to be paying attention and to be ready. The controller was very, very patient with someone who was obviously not prepared for his flight.

@chrisgast 7 жыл бұрын

I would do that, even for VFR.

@reactorfour1682 3 жыл бұрын

This controller has more patience than I’ve had in my entire life.

@MoMadNU 4 жыл бұрын

Before I received my first real departure clearance, I listened to a ton of them and practiced writing and reading them back. Since you don't need an airplane to get good at clearances, there was little excuse for this guy to be confused by the very simple and standard clearance he was given.

@manedwolfwithagmailaccount1478 2 жыл бұрын

Literally play VATSIM or MFS for a few weeks and you'll be nailing it irl lmao this guy is pathetic

@matthewrammig 11 ай бұрын

He would be shocked to learn you don’t need an airplane to practice writing down clearances 😅

@jamestheotherone742 5 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for the punch line at the end, "Oh, I'm VFR only can you give me compass headings instead?"

@RellyOhBoy 7 жыл бұрын

I would have told that pilot to "hold for a breathalyzer..."

@martintheiss743 5 жыл бұрын

then you could have just taken off with no declared route?

@israelzilberman Ай бұрын

That would be an equipment departure

@techniktyp2000 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, the concern in his voice when he asks "you sure, you got an understanding of this?". Well done, kept his calm and was focused on safety only.

@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. Жыл бұрын

Hi, recently retired ATC weighing in here. I'm not going to pretend that it's easy to do, but there is nothing to be gained by losing your temper/patience with a pilot, so you work like hell to not do that. Everybody's new at their job at some point, everybody has bad days, the key thing is to be calm, keep your head, maintain communication and work towards a shared understanding. That being said ... this ... this was something else.

@King-2077 10 ай бұрын

I wanted to be a commercial pilot but this is one of the things that scares me off with being one. Following instructions while flying from ATC scares me lol. Ive been trying to practice and I couldn’t understand what you guys were saying 😢

@yFf22a 8 ай бұрын

Something else indeed. I have never flown an IFR route, yet I could understand perfectly what the instructions were. This guy clearly thought he was a hotshot and could recite the clearance from memory and failed. Write it down! I would not have let him take off until he read back correctly - as I had to do as a VFR pilot. I should look up the tail number to see if he made his destination and how many problems he created on the way. Oh yeah. The change to 18... priceless.

@russ117044 7 жыл бұрын

OK! Lets get those flying cars to the masses!

@jgpwlcs36 7 жыл бұрын

I want to get my private pilots license in the future but situations like this scare me haha, the guy had no clue what was going on, I just can't imagine what I would do if I were in his shoes. ATC was extremely patient though, kudos to him

@VASAviation 7 жыл бұрын

If you're ready and prepared, you shouldn't have any problems! :)

@111himan 7 жыл бұрын

Thats the problem is he did not know. This is a non issue to a properly trained pilot and all this covered in training. This guy I can bet was faking being IFR trained or hasn't done it in decades.

@NiccolaiStCroix 7 жыл бұрын

^ exactly

@HerveBoisde 7 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way. I've always wanted to learn how to fly and took a few lessons in the past, but this seems super complicated. And why does everything need to be done via audio. Arent there newer systems that can transmit the necessary coordinates digitally? I watched one video of a Saudi pilot who literally needed to be told a 4 digit number 10 times before he got it right. Its kinda disconcerting.

@ytirucsbo 6 жыл бұрын

This is for an instrument departure procedure.. private pilots wouldn't get a clearance like this unless it was under certain circumstances, even then it wouldn't be like this. If the pilot in the video used the acronym CRAFT, for : clearance limit, routing, altitude , frequency, transponder (code) then it would of made that radio call a lot easier

@Clynikal 3 жыл бұрын

This feels like a training exercise for safety critical communications. Even though it was frustrating at least ground took the time to straight it out.

@Alex-us2vw 5 жыл бұрын

ATC was just making sure he understood the departure procedure. They are there to help pilots not get angry, and he definitely didn’t seem angry. If anything the controller sounded very helpful with him slowing down to clarify how to fly the procedure , what radial to intercept and where to transition VORs. Only thing that would’ve probably been a little frustrating is once the pilot finally understood the departure he requests a different runway and would’ve received new instructions 😂

@NikosWings 8 жыл бұрын

This was painful to listen to. I think the controller did an excellent job trying to help the guy out but some people are just not prepared. Before every IFR (or VFR) flight one must be fully familiar with all procedures, no need to memorize things but be aware of the DPs STARs and some of the fixes and VORs along the route. This way everyone's work is efficient. This guy used so much ATC time he should be sent a bill. ATC is not there to teach you things, they are there to help out and organize everything. I sure hope this guy learned from this experience.

@chrisgast 7 жыл бұрын

His instructor probably should spend some more time with him.

@zacharyw4628 7 жыл бұрын

That and he's certified to kill himself in IMC. That's the kicker.

@jessederks8334 7 жыл бұрын

Niko's Wings or just file "No DP"

@jessederks8334 7 жыл бұрын

Zachary W or he's just new and nervous. I get it's a big thing to be judgmental and self-righteous. I take a "I hope that's never me" kind of approach. So many people never consider how difficult it can be at times when you're at a new airport. I've flown at airports across the country from Reid-Hillview (SFO / SJC) to Van Nuys (LAX) to Addison (DFW TX) to Oshkosh and Appleton WI. All different and all of them have some "local knowledge" truly required to not sound like an idiot. For example when you're flying out of RHV you have to know that if you're taking someone on the "Bay Tour" that they're going to want you to cross SJC (Mineta) over the center of the runway or that at VNY you're not only going to be under the umbrella and not turning before the treatment facility but also that heading east to the practice area between the "mountains", or if you're up in Napa you're going to be pretty much free as long as you don't interrupt the winery tours, or that in Addison you'll be vectored out and in (even VFR) by tower since they fly departures out at one altitude and arrivals at a different one, but not VFR standard because they don't care about ONE mnemonic. So let's all take a step back and realize we aren't perfect and maybe he was just having a crappy day.

@zacharyw4628 7 жыл бұрын

No. The point is he's CERTIFIED to file IFR. That means approaches to minimums, navigation solely by instruments, etc. That's a big deal. The point is it's apparent he doesn't understand the system he is using. I'm an airline pilot based in DFW. I semi-regularly experience a new airport, but the system I'm using is the same everywhere with minor nuances. I understand the structure, and I understood the structure the day my instructor endorsed me to take my instrument ride 10 years ago. This guy doesn't have a plate handy. He took no time going over the DPs before he filed GPS Direct. He learned the hard way that GPS Direct isn't a given in a busy terminal area. I want to reiterate: This guy is certified to fly unknowing passengers into inclement weather and doesn't grasp the idea of a very, very simple SID. It doesn't take local knowledge to open the charts and glance at the DPs of the airport you're departing.

@nolanmi 8 жыл бұрын

It cant hurt to keep him on the ground till he completely understands. The ATC we work with makes sure you have everything down to the maintain runway heading after departure.

@johngalonska5753 5 жыл бұрын

My CFI was a ex Navy Combat Pilot, and he taught me well. I hate to think waht he would do with a guy like this...

@vtwinbuilder3129 4 жыл бұрын

He should never have cleared this lunatic.

@Noah55566 2 жыл бұрын

That’s not his job

@dobermanpac1064 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like I just had a root canal without Novocaine.

@deltavee2 8 жыл бұрын

I would have held him on the ground and sent him back to the shack to file a plan in person till he knows it cold. I'm not entirely convinced this guy had all his marbles in one bag. Is there a bar at that airport?

@KCFlyer2 8 жыл бұрын

+deltavee2 Nope...but it IS just northeast of DFW airport an Dallas love field...so it's comforting to know that a clown like this is flying around the corridor full of arriving passenger jets into the DFW area.

@AndyMc1952 5 жыл бұрын

hahahahahh fly runway heading to 3000 expect vector brain fart direct closest eval center final clearance approved.

@HalfShelli 5 жыл бұрын

I got the impression he was just elderly, and doesn't fly much. I don't even understand how he's current, what with his predilection for saying "over", along with so many of his other shortcomings.

@JJM2222 4 жыл бұрын

@@HalfShelli not that far fetched to think he doesn't have a license

@CincoSnare76 8 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't be holding an Instrument Rating if you ask me. That was horrible.

@palonazo 8 жыл бұрын

Sounds like he's not instrument rated at all. Who keeps saying "over" on the radio after completing IR training?

@palonazo 7 жыл бұрын

***** Exactly. It's all very dodgy... unless it's a fake.

@111himan 7 жыл бұрын

Ive heard before theres a great deal of pilots operating IFR and IFR procedures without the IFR rating as in its common but because ATC has no way to check pilot ratings or equipment its never questioned

@palonazo 7 жыл бұрын

111himan One thing is to use a radial every now and then or get too close to IMC, and a whole different one is to change to IFR in flight or even request an IFR approach. A non instrument rated pilot should not do any of those things, but especially the second one, as the workload will just be too much for him.

@philschroeder 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve never figured out why ATC, under conditions like these, doesn’t ask these pilots if they’re rated IFR.

@stevensonDonnie 4 жыл бұрын

The patient was of this ground controller is incredible. I’ve never had anyone with this much patience. I think getting chewed out a few time by ground or ATC for some bone head move in my youth helped to keep me focused when I talk to them.

@billace90 5 жыл бұрын

The guy is still up there. The problem is he has gone so high the ISS is now assisting him. Something is being worked out between FAA and NASA to get him down.

@umemployedplumber8875 5 жыл бұрын

i dont think he got the ISS frequency right.

@qinyzu08 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, this flight can still be tracked from flightaware and the registration info are public too: N530JP is a Mooney M20M equipped with a TIO-540 SER engine, by compare these data with M20 POH/AFM, we can get many interesting fact about this flight, also a very good case study for both VFR and IFR pilots. With 89 gallons usable fuel and filed 185 knots, at 9000ft, he's planning to fly at best power 34/3400, if not modified the airplane endurance will be just about 5 hours, and he was in the air for 5 hours, clearly very hard to satisfy the alternate+45min rule under IFR, plus unfamiliar with SIDs, unable to understand and copy ATC clearance, poor planning, these combination can leads to serious accidents

@tommydags1 5 жыл бұрын

Well said, it goes in to all aspects of the flight too, especially if he's planning to land and ATC changes his route, no telling what could happen or be misunderstood, I think they should have kept him grounded till someone spoke to him on the phone or something and verified what he was really asking for

@coma13794 4 жыл бұрын

you assume an alternate was required...that might not be the case.

@bigblue207 4 жыл бұрын

coma13794 it’s required for instrument flight planning to have enough fuel to reach an alternate and 45 minutes of reserve in daylight hours I believe. I think it goes to an hour after sunset.

@danninglu8443 4 жыл бұрын

@@bigblue207 No. An alternate is not required if the airport of first intended landing has an instrument approach procedure, and the weather forcast at the destination between 1 hour before and 1 hour after the ETA is better than 2000 ft celling and 3 status miles of visibility. Just took my instrument knowledge test today.

@MasmorraAoE 3 жыл бұрын

@@danninglu8443 Genuinely curious, what if the destination airport has a crash and needs to close all runways?

@wilycoyote2520 7 жыл бұрын

I think the pilot was hard of hearing... "Quitman" becomes "Equipment" "SOLDO" become "SOLO" If he's unfamiliar with the area (maybe he's returning cross country?) then the tower freq and the departure might have been too much for him to research... I will admit that debating about WHAT the Hubbard departure comprises was pointless. I'm picturing a silver haired guy with a paunch and a red complexion wearing a white polo shirt who is totally unprepared to order at fast food restaurants. You know the guy...

@iwonderwhatidoanymoreonyou4063 2 жыл бұрын

He should have checked the charts

@DudeManBoroMan 5 жыл бұрын

I want what ever this controller is smoking to stay this calm.

@ghstark 4 жыл бұрын

I just think he doesn't have a pen and paper, he's trying to memorize everything.

@robertfleming6470 6 жыл бұрын

That controller had some SERIOUS PATIENCE!!!!! GOD BLESS HIM!

@Derangedteddy 7 жыл бұрын

I'd bet money he never had a chart in his lap at all...

@gringoloco8576 3 жыл бұрын

That probably wouldn't have had the departure procedure though. He really needed to have that in front of him.

@aarohivijh 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like he was planning on using Google maps, seriously.

@coryt490 4 жыл бұрын

I hope the pilot sobered up by the time he reached his destination

@aaryadevchandra2811 4 жыл бұрын

5:02 The squak and the frequency reversed is the same !😆

@kosmologist 3 жыл бұрын

We all can read lol

@MrJeffinLodi 6 жыл бұрын

LOL. that is the most patient ATC guy in the world; he's a gem. When the pilot asks for 18, the ATC nearly fainted, but really held his composure. Love that guy.

@jeanmarco40 3 жыл бұрын

"N530JP, I'll take the bus instead"

@alejandrozaldivar508 8 ай бұрын

@@jeanmarco40over

@xxxxxGhostBoyxxxxx 6 жыл бұрын

Kudos to the ATC, the patience and instructions are spelled out clearly. Respect level 9999

@andrewjvaughan 4 жыл бұрын

I learned to read a chart faster than this guy did, with this, and I’ve never seen a departure chart before

@Fenderak 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the fact that you had the ATC transcript and correct departure chart with the route highlighted in red served in front of you had something to do with that.. But by all means, continue patting yourself on the back...

@wdwvideos270 5 жыл бұрын

3:52 "So-lo... Han Solo" hahahahhahahahha

@illuminati7276 3 жыл бұрын

I just heard that 🤣😂

@asarangan 6 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of when I tried to fly out of a busy airport once, and I was given a SID that looked far too complicated. Instead of trying to follow that, I said, forget the clearance, I'll depart VFR and will pick up an IFR clearance in the air later.

@dennied7826 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering that. Why not just go VFR and deal with it later. It doesn't look like anything he couldn't navigate himself from on the ground, doesn't seem like a busy airport either. Some simplified directions might of helped as well, it's great that he's getting the info from the tower but without a chart it's all Chinese to him

@crazy4gta1 9 ай бұрын

A little late but you’re not required to fly a SID. When you file, you can put “no sids” in the remarks

@asarangan 9 ай бұрын

Putting "no SID" on an IFR flight plan is not going to make much difference. You will still get the SID, but instead of assinging the name of the SID, they will read the whole departure procedure in words which makes it unnecessarily lengthy and clogs up the frequency. If you are not willing to fly a SID, just for VFR.

@panchoscse77 8 жыл бұрын

fortunately they were on McKinney Airport, not on JFK hahaha!

@KCFlyer2 8 жыл бұрын

+Francisco Figueroa Mckinney is just northeast of DFW and Love field - quite a few commercial operations in that airspace

@nukemanmd 8 жыл бұрын

That's just what I was thinking. The atc handling this guy had to be the nicest, most patient atc I've every experienced. I doubt this pilot had an instrument rating. Even so, he had an awfully sweet ride.

@davidsholem 8 жыл бұрын

for sure!

@tommydags1 5 жыл бұрын

He'd be grounded at JFK for that kinda radio misunderstanding until they sorted it out

@jameshadstate1278 4 жыл бұрын

I would just LOVE to hear this guy get his clearance from JFK Steve. Except I LOVE listening to JFK Steve and he would literally have a stroke with this one!

@chloelouise3136 3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was challenging to get your instrument rating. This gives me confidence literally anyone can do it 🤦🏻‍♀️

@foolieson2463 4 жыл бұрын

Well I was scared because I’m just about to start my instrument training. But then I watched this video and I learned 2 things, 1 bring a pen and paper. 2 if this guy has an instrument license.... it’s going to be a LOT EASIER then getting my private

@tflahant 8 жыл бұрын

Did he make it or is he still up there somewhere ? :)

@VASAviation 8 жыл бұрын

+Techy Las After more than 5 hours on his Mooney... they reached destination :S

@tflahant 8 жыл бұрын

+VASAviation - Keep up the great vids I love them :)

@VASAviation 8 жыл бұрын

Techy Las Thanks a lot for your words! I definitely will!! :D

@michaellieske7173 5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha!!!!!

@Dr0pkick22 5 жыл бұрын

oh my goodness this comment made me bust out laughing

@lancelot1953 8 жыл бұрын

Excellent video with "lessons to be learned". Great work and patience from ATC personnel. This video is a great reminder about being prepared not only for what you plan on doing but also for what can happen if something goes wrong, clearance is not granted, alternate departures, etc. I think that ATC could have recommended/ask the pilot if he had all the necessary charts or invited him to come to flight planning (this for the pilot's own safety). I understand that this is not the duty of ATC to train a pilot put for the sake of safety, I believe it is worth it. Thank you for these videos, I would rather like to benefit from the experience(s) of other people as not to have to screw up myself (and I have done it)! Ciao, L

@VASAviation 8 жыл бұрын

+lancelot1953 Hey, friend!! Thanks! This a serious problem to put a pilot like this airborne... Not much confidence at all

@lancelot1953 8 жыл бұрын

VASAviation - Hi "VASAviation", I agree with you, as a controller, I would be concerned on clearing this guy on a departure and wondering/worrying about the other controllers getting this pilot on the approach end of his flight! Keep them videos coming, I am learning a lot, Ciao, L

@EvanBear 2 жыл бұрын

I feel for both of them. ATC had the patience of a saint.

@djcatron11 3 жыл бұрын

After all that and then he asks for a different runway with a whole new set of departure instructions.

@ianhaigh4878 8 жыл бұрын

I think this pilot is a bit slow on the uptake ,ATC was very good and patient with him .please keep this brilliant work going I am hooked on it .

@keokiracerhalsteren 8 жыл бұрын

I find it hilariously ironic that you misspelled incompetent XD Other than that, thanks a lot for the videos over the last couple months (that's when I found your channel). Very entertaining :)

@VASAviation 8 жыл бұрын

+keokiracerhalsteren Holy crap! Not ironic, just funny!!! :D :D

@MrJohns0n1 8 жыл бұрын

+VASAviation - It actually is ironic. Irony is usually humorous. :)

@bananian 5 жыл бұрын

@@MrJohns0n1 It actually isn't ironic. Irony would be spelling *competant* incorrectly.

@brooks-e8249 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJohns0n1 I think i finally understand the meaning of "ironic" and from a comment on a 5 year old ATC conversation related to confusion stemming from a Waypoint that sounds like the word equipment. Not sure if that was a waypoint or something else, now i am not sure if this is irony either. Entertaining as hell though! How ironic is that? Wait! Stop! Do not answer that! LOL

@heathermetz6576 4 жыл бұрын

ATC did a great job, was very patient, and explained instructions very well to a pilot that shouldn’t be flying!

@johnboyjr21 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly what a helpful man. So calm, he explained it so well I could've followed that departure without expecting that VOR. And idk shit! hahaha. And he wanted to explain exactly what he had to do to make all that work even when the pilot finally got the instructions right. I mean it doesn't get more patient than that!

@velholobodomar42 7 жыл бұрын

Very polite atc guy

@pigskin1000 4 жыл бұрын

"this guy has no flying experience at all. He's a menace to himself and everything else in the air... yes, birds too." ---Airplane---

@401Chartpilot 3 жыл бұрын

And he's flying a Mooney??? Guaranteed he's a week behind that plane!!!

@kekelaward 3 жыл бұрын

Classic. Over.

@steven2145 3 жыл бұрын

And he is taking an IFR flight plan...he couldn't be Instrument rated.

@rustedskelotonproductionse3687 5 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 This was the funniest and also scariest thing I've listened to. Hopefully I'm not laughing at a dead pilot's last communications

@71Darkone 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a disservice to let this “pilot” out on the airways. He clearly didn’t have clue what he was doing...

@youtubeaddict-1868 6 жыл бұрын

I'm no pilot, but even I understood all what the controller was saying.

@No_Fuse8771 7 жыл бұрын

Wow, I feel so much better about my radio work after this.

@neptune4167 4 жыл бұрын

This is the same guy driving 35 mph in the left hand lane on the 65mph freeway constantly looking in his rear-view mirrors at the line of cars behind him. And the kicker was asking for a different runway after all this.

4 жыл бұрын

looks like he hasn't done an IFR flight for 10 years...

@paazhaaz 8 жыл бұрын

If you dont understand what you're actually supposed to do, then keep him on the ground. Dont know that much about these procedures but enough to not give him a clearance untill everything is correct and the pilot showed he's capable of doing this flight. That should be considered as well when I hear this

@747-pilot 6 жыл бұрын

There is nothing wrong with asking to clarify instructions, as sometimes the controllers speak fast and not everyone has the ability to retain everything they said instantaneously. Now, that said, there is definitely a problem with this pilot, because he appears *_UNPREPARED_* and there is NO EXCUSE for that!! I, myself, am not great on the radio with ATC, but to compensate for this, I "over prepare". I got my PPL at an uncontrolled airport, where most of my 150+ hrs of flight time has been spent. As I'm in Instrument Training right now, I'm getting better at ATC comms, but I know I'm not a "natural" at it, like some are! I make damn sure I know every single VFR checkpoint, VOR, intersection etc. in the vicinity of my flight! I listen to the ATIS carefully, and go over several scenarios that I may expect, be it when I'm coming into the airport or departing!! Unfortunately, this guy appears to have "jumped into" the airplane and decided to wing it (pardon the pun) as he goes along, which is totally unacceptable! And after all of that, he requests to depart from the other end of the runway!! Big big kudos to that controller for keeping his calm!! 😃 .....Most normal humans would've lost it at that point!! I can only imagine how the rest of the conversation went with the controller spending another 10 to 15 minutes, going back and forth, explaining the new procedures!!! 😂

@ocsrc 5 жыл бұрын

I'M just going to take it up and hope for the best.

@earnharvick 3 жыл бұрын

Controller: "N530JP, do a 360, taxi back to parking." " Shut down and secure aircraft then go home."

@Poultusspare 5 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for him to call “standing by” when asked to “stand-by” by atc

@aarohivijh 3 жыл бұрын

Standing by, over.

@Poop-nu1so 3 жыл бұрын

"Possible Pilot Sleep Deprivation....Please copy this number for a motel when ready."

@u.a.ebuddyvlogs8743 5 жыл бұрын

My debate entry is You can always encounter this kind if Pilot in FSX:SE Multiplayer.

@bxchris 4 жыл бұрын

When he said expect different climb out instructions, I became very depressed

@riikkatheiceprincess_she_h8725 5 жыл бұрын

This super-patient ATC is so helpful that /I/ learned a lot from his guidance. I don't think the pilot he was trying to help did, but... ö7 thanks much, ATC guy! I'll get my official KZfaq Pilot's Licence any day now! Aaaany day. Soon. ™.

@minthethird8565 2 жыл бұрын

He’s actually an excellent controller I recognize his voice. He’s always so patient :)

@shibumi5210 7 жыл бұрын

Ok, quick poll- anyone who does NOT want to fly in the same airspace as this "pilot", hit the thumbs-up...

@YouTube.TOM.A 6 жыл бұрын

Its ok to be a student and go through the rigors of learning. Lot's of people remember what it was like, when you were learning and did not have a clue. Who is that controller, I will like to cut his lawn, wash his car, walk his mutt, and I may even do the dishes and make dinner.

@wizbang68 6 жыл бұрын

Not even the same hemisphere.

@Lemuriam 6 жыл бұрын

its not a poll if you can only count one of two possible options

@watkinsheating 5 жыл бұрын

Tom, the problem is this is not a student pilot. He's asking for instrument clearance. I think the controllers should be able to order a flight review after that performance.

@HalfShelli 5 жыл бұрын

He sounded elderly to me, and that he hasn't flown much since, say, about WWII. In a situation like this, doesn't ATC have the authority to not let him take off?

@widgeo 8 жыл бұрын

Wow! That was painful to hear. This pilot needs some serious re-training

@schecter6l6 2 жыл бұрын

Kudos for ground for being that patient. He had trouble with some basic departure procedures and clearly did not do his homework. Good luck pulling that in a busy airspace or airport. As far as pulling his clearance I would imagine it would be up to the controller. I would have hit him again with the readback and if it wasn't perfect deny his departure clearance until he gave me a non stumbling perfect readback on the departure and I was confident he understood it.

@nutandboltguy3720 3 жыл бұрын

That ATC controller thought going to a sleepy little airport like McKinney would be an easy job. Now he’s wishing he could go to DFW.

@oscarlindehey7512 6 жыл бұрын

I feel so bad for this pilot... ATC did a nice job!

@victordasilva5255 4 жыл бұрын

Repeat after me....”reads war and peace “

@igvc1876 3 жыл бұрын

Very standard IFR clearance, sometimes they are even longer. He should be writing these down and be prepared ahead of time. It's not that hard if you practice this , and since I assume he has an IFR certificate, he should have practiced many times.