One day charlie will get his just deserts. He is a murder along with old horse jaw

She was a bit of a nutter tbh. Read the biography about her by Andrew Morton which she collaborated with

@@Lazydaisy646 I have read that book. I don’t think she was a bit of a nutter. I think he is the nutter, a selfish, spoiled, entitled nutter. She was very naive to have married him. I was pretty naive myself at nineteen/twenty.

Her childhood was traumatic. She had abandonment issues. She already had an eating disorder. She was a mess, but so young her problems weren’t obvious yet because such young women aren’t assertive enough to make life as difficult as a more mature woman who have more life experience under their belt. She became a nightmare.

He didn't love her, not the way she deserved. She had her agenda as did he. They both married for the wrong reason.

The Windsor name is relatively young but Charles and Diana are 16th cousins who descend through legal marriages and royal mistresses. The Spencers have also tacked their heritage onto the older Norman DeSpenser family (borrowed some aspects of the DeSpenser coat of arms) despite not being granted the right to use them.

​@@gnostic268The Spencers were glorified sheep farmers. "Glorified" by female members of the family being Royal Mistresses of Charles II and giving birth to his bastards. Diana was descended from not one, but two illegitimate children of King Charles II of England: Henry Fitzroy and Charles Lennox, via two of her great-grandmothers, Adelaide Seymour and Rosalind Bingham. Queen Camilla shares this same lineage, for those who love to put Diana on a pedestal, while looking down their noses at Queen Camilla.

@@gnostic268 Wow, that’s fascinating! Thank you🎉

That is quite different from saying the Spencer lineage is longer than Prince Charles known lineage. Charles had the better pedigree.

I was a shocked at that point you revealed she ordered her own ring they didn’t choose it together !!!

Not true. Source please - and *don't* say "the Crown"!

@@keithgiblin2636 I don't watch the crown.its a bit like your comment. A work of fiction.

@@melgrant7404 So no real proof? That's what I thought...

@@keithgiblin2636 what proof does anyone really have.we only have what the public have been told and what happened in her own words.

@@melgrant7404 Then take your own advice!

Oh you people same old nonsense! He had to marry a virgin - not a lot of those around these days: He had to have healthy male heirs- all these are royal family rules. The Queen has to give permission when the heir to the throne marries - He obviously didn’t want to go through with it- but the Royal Line takes precedence over any personal needs. He has been so badly treated by people who don’t understand the constraints he was under. Look at the hundreds of young people he has helped with The Princes Trust. Wanting to be the Defender of FaithS says a lot about him. Small wonder he is ill- he’s had to shoulder so much from an ill informed public ready to take sides against a woman he has loved for over 30 years because of the attractive younger woman he was forced to marry to ensure a healthy succession. He had no legal obligation to accompany Diana’s coffin from France- but he went. He walked Megan up the aisle rather than her being alone. He is a decent sensitive caring man. I know him. And the misunderstanding he has had to put up with is very sad indeed.

Were you young then? Were you even alive then? You may not be aware, but for years in the 1970s Charles and every girl he dated were hounded by the press. Hounded. He couldn't date ANYONE without the press of Fleet Street going after his new love and digging into whatever "past" she had. Girl after girl fell at this hurdle. They were swamped - and ex-boyfriends and/or lovers triumphantly exposed - quite often on a Sunday morning when the breakfast Sunday tabloids hit the mat. Front page - and often pages of it. Diana was that crock of gold at the end of the rainbow for them - a "virgin without a past". From the moment he met her the press went wild for her. The RF, especially, apparently, the Duke of Edinburgh - weary of the Groundhog-Day farce of his love life - pushed for a decision and more or less forced his hand. For her part no one in her family had the wisdom to advise the couple to slow down - give themselves time to decide if they really were a match. Instead it was full-steam-ahead and they were even hurried along. The outcome of course, everybody knows. Both of them were railroaded by their families to please a public who wanted marriage for Charles - and a virgin bride. An 18 month relationship - or even an engagement - could have disintegrated without a scandal had they only been allowed to test-drive it before they walked up the aisle.

@@janel342 Queen Elizabeth ll father did not have healthy male heirs. There were no male heirs and it worked out great. Why did Charles have to follow rules that his mother's family did not have to follow? If he married the very young Diana and so much pressure was placed upon her, Charles should have taken better care of her instead of expecting her to all of a sudden be able to handle not being loved and also being the most famous woman in the world. That is all on Charles and he failed.

@@surlif You've been watching 'The Crown'!

I never liked the ring and I stil don't. Not that my opinion is of any importance.

@@hilaryjohns4049 It was very 80's. Flashy , big jewellery was very in then.

@@sarahholland2600 I had a sapphire and diamond cluster in the 1960s, I still love it. The sapphire is in proportion to the diamonds.

@@hilaryjohns4049 I've got a similar style dress ring that's amethyst & diamonds. But like yours the main stone isnt so flashy.

@@sarahholland2600 Princess Catherine didn't have a choice. She couldn't choose her ring. Charlotte will probably inherit the ring, she might decide to have it made into a pendant. Of course it might go to a bride of one of her brothers.

Lol 😂

Nup-tea-ells. 😄

AI sucks dont use it!

Johnny Spencer rented a house on the Sandringham estate from the queen

Until Diana was a teenager, Diana's grandfather was living at Althorp, and Johnny was renting a house at Sandringham. The Fermoys has been the previous tenants.

I worked at a Day care center when I was 18 the supervisor called us teachers though we had no formal training

​@@CarolShook-yg9nnThat was unconscionable.

@@tessdurberville711why?

@@CarolShook-yg9nn YES! Teacher Assistants also teach, care for, love and are loved! ❤🎉❤

To be a teacher you needed in the past QTS, or now to do a PGCE after a degree. I taught Nursery Assistants and Teaching Assistants and the qualifications they gained did not allow them to be a teacher. I'm not disputing that they support children's learning and care about them but that technically they are not teachers. I have known private nurseries to refer to staff as teachers which may have impressed some parents but was not accurate.

Also Charles had a tray of rings for her to choose from. She laughed and said his eyes popped when she chose the largest one. 🤣

Many others say it was from a catalog

It was not, it was inspired by a brooch Prince Albert gave to Princess Victoria, Gerrards of London created it for her.

Diana said that she picked out her engagement ring. Charles has said he picked out the ring. Sources report the Queen picked it out from five options brought to her to choose from. Is it pure coincidence that Fergie's ring looked so identical?? I believe the Queen picked it out. She's a control freak. That both Charles and Diana claim to have shopped for it is most likely a romantic tale they were encouraged to tell.

Westminster Abbbey? They were married at St Paul's Cathedral

Can you seriously imagine her picking a ring from a ‘catalogue’ 😂😂 Freemans, Argos? Dear god, what will they come up with next?! Hilarious!

I agree. They've been calling her Kate Middleton, and it makes me cringe, like fingernails across a chalkboard. As you said, she's Catherine, Princess of Wales.

It's like a rainbow 🌈 of people now quite lovely to see imo

Diana was a mistake for Charles. I wish he would have dated her a lot longer so he could see she was very disturbed and Charles could have moved on. According to family and friends Diana wanted to be princess of Wales since her childhood. She wouldn't have looked twice at Charles If he was a butcher or a baker or a candle stick maker! Disgraceful Diana! She took all her married boyfriends back to Kensington Palace and I feel bad for their innocent wives and children. Those wives should have gone on Oprah instead of Harry and Me-gain.

He fid that all tge time He was with camila the marrsige tecker night before his wedfing What a deceitfull human beeing All toyal fanily knew aboyt his continiuos relations with that ugly Old cart horse Thry used diana to produce heir to thrown Then killed her so he could marry and be come king God exists

Aww, why so bitter??

@@keithgiblin2636Not bitter, just stating the facts!

@@XevLexa 'The Crown' is not "facts" js

Read the book Diana herself collaborated with about her childhood and marriage…..in which she outed her own father as one of the 2 most violent misogynistic bullies in British Aristocracy….Lady C , the author was married to the 2nd , a friend of the Earl ………So , in said book , when Lady C refused to write what SHE knew to be untruths about Charles ….Diana went to Andrew Morton to write “ Her True Story” ……… I remember cruel headlines after their honeymoon saying she was a bit chubby and dressed like a granny …….Camilla was never a 3rd wheel in their marriage from day 1 like she said in that book ….Charles tried to make it work , Charlotte , he was separated from his true love by machinating grandmothers who wanted a Spencer girl …ANY Spencer girl for him !!! He was brought up by his grandmother and SHE influenced him and he was heartbroken, not weak willed and he knew his duty ……what would you do in his place ? I am sick and tired of the flak our King and Queen get from this and Duchess Disgusting is determined to bring all this out , so I dare you , Charlotte , read the book published almost 25 years ago and understand what made Diana grow into the woman that had 6 affairs , clearly desperate for love , damaged , manipulative, emotional and mentally challenged enough to leave the safety of the Ritz and shoot off at high speed NOT wearing a seatbelt!!!!!!!! The lost weight and the adoration from press and people went straight to her head ……don’t get me wrong here , her childhood must have been awful but knowing what we know now about childhood trauma and the adult psyche that follows that ……William and Catherine’s passion for mental health and early childhood development, SCREAMS to me that they have read that book and possibly even saw evidence from Lady C of Diana’s true involvement in it !? So has The King and Queen….they chose to protect Diana’s memory, they could easily have brought all this front and center to clear themselves etc but they didn’t , they took abuse after abuse , to maybe protect the boys as well ….whatever ……ENOUGH .

Camilla would never have passed the virginity test. Also their love child gave Charlie enough guilt to promise her the world. Also, the life of a breeding demure bride would have interfered with country house bedswap sport... the duties a bore..

@@LindaGrey-wm9uc What love child ???

Charles needed a brood mare. he's dishonest and his actions despicable .

I agree. The age difference was a problem maybe if she'd been a little older and more mature they could have found common ground

There’s 22 years between my sister and brother in law. They’ve been married for 32 years.

The bodice itself was simple. The sleeves were billows, and there was a lot of beading on the gown. Beautiful gown, but I actually liked Fergie's dress better.

@@adelerodriguez2432 same here it was youthful and lovely

I tried decide for years what it was about that dress I did not care for it..I think it's what you said big and billowy not at all flattering on the young bride

when you saw her dress?

Her dress was AWFUL

I thought the dress about swallowed her it seemed a bit old fashioned for someone so young

I didn’t like it either! It was a messy ball of fabric

@@laurelschiller8753 looking at it now it’s awful but at the time most people agreed it was beautiful...

Could you possibly mean "weak"?

Is Weak

​@@OutWestRedDirt Yes, you are right - now off you go - correct your own errors. LoL 🤣🤣🤣.

Karma has come for the wicked

I was hoping someone else would notice that! lmao

@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I've been saying for the longest that they both had similar aspirations. They really did try to make it work despite their differences

Diana married the title, not the man.

Pedigree. The Spencers were glorified sheep farmers. "Glorified" by female members of the family being Royal Mistresses of Charles II and giving birth to his bastards. Diana was descended from not one, but two illegitimate children of King Charles II of England: Henry Fitzroy and Charles Lennox, via two of her great-grandmothers, Adelaide Seymour and Rosalind Bingham. Queen Camilla shares this same lineage, for those who love to put Diana on a pedestal, while looking down their noses at Queen Camilla. Althorp was in the red when Prince Charles married dim Diana. Of course, her family kept her mental instability quiet.

Karma returns

Was it a 'commoner's' price? Interesting omission...

Hang on Charles caused the stories of Diana. Apart from that Diana played an important part of royal history and therfore should be remembered.

@@melgrant7404 no he didn’t. She cheated first and that has been proven many times

@@laurabailey1054 only after he cheated first.

Agree

​@laurabailey1054 liar. She only turned to another after it was clear Charles refused to be a husband, refused to keep his vows.

no, we don't. to king charlie? no, thank you. xo

She was a very important part of royal history so she's not to be forgotten.

​@@melgrant7404yes.

Extra dress, bouquet perhaps? Not too many brides afford more than one, just in case.

what are you talking about?

St. Paul's.

AI will do that.

Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz met George III on the day of their wedding. They married six hours later. They were married for 57 years, in sickness and in health. 15 children.

Or 100% Spencer.🤔 Did you think the Lannisters invented it?

Actually she was 20 when she married. It is often mistakenly reported that she is 19 to try to increase the age difference and add drama!

No,that would be Mr. Shand, Mr. Parker-Bowles, the Queen Mother, Baroness Fermoy, and John Spencer.

Compared to Diana Charles was a sweet heart 💖 as a spouse and parent!