still better than my chromebook camera

“The only DSI I have Is a super rare Panda development unit” *oh, ok.*

I like how Elliot seems amazed about a nintendo DS camera despite the Gameboy camera being a thing...

Imagine if you ported out all the gba buttons to a connector on the bottom, then use an arduino and rotary encoder to allow you to use a paddle controller on gba games.

James Bond wishes he had that DS camera

“Wait till the end of the video and i’ll put it in a regular gameboy” Not gonna lie, that did hook me in

I think the Face Training game is meant to be an anti-aging tool. You strengthen the muscles in your face to avoid saggy skin. I doubt it works, but that's probably what it's for.

imagine showing up to online class with that camera

I wish the paddles were more available because they work so well. It's also compatible with Space Invaders Extreme for DS.

DSi Games are region locked, that might be why it didn‘t work on the Panda-Dev-DSi

Love seeing Elliot geek out over Nintendo stuff. These kinds of videos are the best

Face exercises are a common thing in Japan apparently

Those accessories should be hardware-compatible with the GBA, it's just a matter of software. It should be possible to write a homebrew game which loads into the GBA's RAM and then uses the Arkanoid controller. If the interface is documented it shouldn't be too hard to do.

Love these rare/odd accessories, thank you for sharing and finding them!

Accessories in Japan are peculiar.

just wanted to say your killing it with the content man

8:34 - Want that as a notification sound xD

the way the camera flicks up is so satisfying

I really wanted to see what would've happened with the Standard-DS version of the Face Training game, how it would've reacted to a DSi/3DS. Would it have used the system's built-in camera like the DSi version or would it have not worked because it was expecting specifically the DS Option Pak camera?

Always appreciate you showcasing these hidden gems man! Cheers

You need to update your subscriber image at 0:05 to say 400k. Congrats also :D

I actually have face training, I’ve been waiting for this video lol

Man, I always wanted that Arkanoid paddle. It's a shame it never came out Stateside. :(

The blue button in the Japanese DS version of _Face Training_ just translates to "start".

That's awesome and takes the gaming experience to a whole new level.

Face Training may not work on the Panda dev unit if it's a USA development kit. The DSi and onwards had region locking... which is also why it wouldn't load on your Char 3DS (Japan console). Cheers!

The slider might be clickable, Elliot, instead of having to press the B button every time.

I have a copy of that controller, the exact bundle in fact. If I remember correctly you can serve the ball by pressing it down, that way your hand can stay on the knob the whole time.

Would've been pretty awesome if the arkanoid controller had a GBA version built in to it.

The Arknoid controller was also in the US. I'm aware of at least a couple Homebrew projects that supported that controller. The DSi when running a DSi mode had a faster processor and more RAM. Clearly this camera related game requires those things. Other games that work in the DSi will also work in the DS, as long as they won't require DSi mode specific features. Once DSi mode was exploited some really interesting things came about too. Like there's a very rare release of Quake II that runs on it that most people don't even know about. There's also a bunch of really nice emulators, like an Atari 5200 emulator.

Yoooo japan is so awesome thanks for covering these bro!

Have you tried the English face training game with the camera option Pak in the DS lite?

The best thing about the paddle : SPACE INVADERS. It worked with Space Invaders and wow, that was an amazing way to play that game. It turned it into a whole new game. It makes me sad that nobody else has done a shmup with a paddle controller.

What happened with the DSi game is that you needed a Europe-region DSi or 3DS. For some reason, most DSi-enhanced and DSi-exclusive games were region locked to their region, so if you tried to play it on a North American or Japanese DSi or 3DS, it just wouldn't go. If you play them on a DS or DS Lite, those systems don't have any region locking at all, but you wouldn't get the extra speed or features from playing on a DSi, and if it was exclusive to the DSi, you'd get an error message like that. It won't appear in the menu or anything if it triggers a DSi or 3DS's region lock, if I recall. But it could be mistaken as being that the game just doesn't read. Still, it's so neat to see that accessories like these existed! The paddle especially looks like it would be so cool to play arcade-style games with.

I just bought a used Aqua blue 3DS for equivalent of 10 pounds.It was a real lucky find,it just needed to be cleaned.

Dang never been here in the first ten seconds before

These are honestly really cool, even though new handheld iterations made them rather pointless.

I wonder if that DS camera works with Pokémon B&W’s video communications

They were testing the camera before the the DSi came out, so now it built in :D

the face training game looks like it could be a therapy tool, either that or corporate brainwashing.

2:57 that’s what she said

That flex was clean lol! Nice video man! Great review and great overall presentation brother!

My local ASDA used to have lots of brand new copies of the DSi version of Face Training in the clearance games section back when they had a big media section. They then turned that section into a bigger clothes area and moved their media section to be a small part of one aisle and only stocks new releases for games.

The DSi has a camera so I think you can play the japanese face-massaging game on the DSi with no problem. Plus, that's the reason why the camera is now obsolete.

I don’t watch your videos often Elliot, but when it do, I enjoy them.

This is a genuinely obscure KZfaq channel

At 1.14 Elliot says absolutely, if you double tap to skip 10 seconds he says it again, double tap and he says it a third time 😂😂😂😂

I have the face training. You don’t have to pop out the camera to use it. The pop out is for the phat DS since gba games are flush in that system and the ds lite works without popping it out since the camera sticks out as it is.

Best use of the Arkanoid controller is Space Invaders Extreme. It ats batteries so quickly tho. I remember some people were making rom-hacks of other DS games that didn't support it natively.

I'm jealous you got the Taito paddle, wew

Stop Skeltons From Fighting covered these a few months ago, id love to get my hands on the arkanoid controller, but yeah there a lil hard to find, finding one new in box is awsome

Me bingeing the retro future at 4am, there was a face training game??? 😮

The Panda units from both DSi and 3DS don't run commercial DSi and 3DS games. They run every DS game however because these games had no region lock back then.

laughing at all items getting tossed thru the video lol

I think the Arkanoid paddle also works with Space Invaders Extreme if I remember correctly.

The only reason why i keep watching your videos is.... i love them.🥳

That spinner is a great little gadget. I'm still looking for a proper dial of sorts to use for playing Tempest on the PC. Options are limited!

Have you tried out the optical mouse accessory that came with a Japanese DS game. Also doubled as a really stable stand.

I've heard the paddle controller works with other games, including the international releases of those titles. Would you be willing to do a tear down (in the future, once the house is sorted) to see what components are used, pin layouts and whether a programmed chip is involved? I'd understand if not with such a rare and valuable item.

I have the Arkanooid controller, I got it here in the us at Gamestop back in the day.

Got these!!! Going to be doing more DS videos on my channel :) thanks for sharing!

Always fun seeing all the unusual accessories. Also congratulations on the 400k!

1st product - cool, i wonder there more controllers like that. 2nd product - this one look like it give the user's face a workout. both product - i think those are external controller for the original ds which is cool.

I've wanted the paddle controller for years. It works with the bust-a-move games.

lol that arkanoid box was sunburned to oblivion on the front, looks like it's been sat in a window of a shop for a long time.

Got the full boxed copy, with paddle, of Arkanoid down the the basement. Bought it back in the day, probably from NCSX, and would play it on lunch breaks at work. Good times.

you should test that camera game in a DSi or 3DS since they have built in cameras

That arkanoid controller works with Spce Invaders extreme too! They even had a seperate high score table for users of it. I swear a face training game came out in europe tho...

Could probably write some homebrew to attempt communication with that camera, if the protocol was known

You should check out the guitar hero ds games, they come with a guitar grip that adds four buttons on the bottom. It’s kind of uncomfortable to play but if you position you hand just right it’s not that bad

> “Obviously, the Nintendo DS doesn’t have a camera.” - Me, with the updated model and had hundreds of photos saved:

Goals 0-0 I recently started recording my personal homebrew/other experiences on the 'New' 3DS XL, now I need to track down a DS lite. I'm getting nostalgic -_-

Imagine if that paddle supported the Atari's Greatest Hits collections.. From what I know, the paddle only works with Arkanoid DS, Space Invaders Extreme, and Space Invaders Extreme 2.

Heehee! I loved Elliot playing Face Training. x3

the DS and DS Lite don't have cameras but the DSi and all 3DS models so have a camera

I've been binge watching all your videos recently, keep up the good work!

"Little bit of a flex, so sorry about that" Then it doesn't work, haha. Honestly I watch your vids all the time, just poking fun

I have this radio contraption that you put in your DSI gaming slot

I have the Nintendo DS Internet Browser (another weird oddity) I remember buying it because of how weird it was, I actually used it on a few occasions to look up stuff about a game I was playing !

I still have my DS spinner and it's awesome.

elliot: sorry that is sord of a flex. whole channel: okay this is my modded 3596 dollar gameboy advance

Those accessories are extremely cool. Especially the Arkanoid paddle/spinner. Some modern Arcade1up machines don't even have nice spinners.

It would have been pretty cool for the arkanoid paddle to have a little arkanoid game when used on a GBA

I ordered both of these from Play Asia way back in the day. I want to say the paddle controller also worked with space invaders but I’m not sure.

The reason the panda dsi didn't play the game is that the dsi consoles are region locked.

I wish the paddle had released in the US and/or wasn't really expensive to import. Playing Space Invaders Extreme arcade-style would be cool.

“Very rare, very expensive.” Proceeds to spin it like a fidget spinner.

Arkanoid is the game that “Vortex” on the iPod was based on.

I would assume it pops out so it works on the original ds models where there was more plastic over the game boy slot.

Yeah, Panda Units, being development units, won't boot retail games. I don't remember the exact reason anymore since it's been ages since I've worked with DSi development, but it was never really a downside since it wasn't the purpose of the hardware anyway. Part of me assumes both the unique color scheme and lack of retail compatibility were to help make sure people were actually working rather than just playing video games.

Super love your videos!! How slick they are, how good is the quality!! amazing!!

the arkanoid thing actually came out here in switzerland and i used to have it!

Without any due let's find out, Intro stars playing

Mhmmm that blue WiFi logo. Best idea Ninty ever had.

What about that Japanese face training cartridge in a new 3ds without the Gameboy slot? Does it use the in built camera or does it freak out?

I never knew the original DS light could have a camera to attach on

Cool accessories. I like the paddle.

Shame that camera didn't work in the GBM. Would have been so cool to have such a small game boy camera!

Play it on a gameboy macro for extra hard mode

Both are incredible accessories!