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Raspberry Pi 5: Video Editing, Video Calling & Passive Cooling
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Күн бұрынRaspberry Pi 5 tests, including video editing in Kdenlive, an HD video call in Microsoft Teams, and passive cooling experiments. Note that this video was edited on a Raspberry Pi 5. :)
Thanks to Kevin McAleer for his assistance with the Teams call. You can visit Kevin’s channel here: / @kevinmcaleer28
My initial Raspberry Pi 5 review and demo video is here:
• Raspberry Pi 5
Kevin’s Pi interview with Eben Upton is here:
• Eben Upton on the new ...
And Kevin’s Pi 5 interview with myself is here:
• Chris Barnatt on the n...
KDENLIVE EDIT & RENDER TIME
This video was edited in Kdenlive on a Raspberry Pi 5, which took 22 minutes and 13 seconds to render the final 20 minute 8 second output. This was far less time than I anticipated for two reasons. Firstly, my earlier test (which we saw in the video) had transitions as a far higher proportion of its total running time, and transitions take much longer to output. Secondly, Kdenlive seems to pause to do something at the start of a render, and the longer the video to be output, the shorter a proportion of the final render time this is. And so my initial estimate of just under an hour for rendering this video was way off.
In case you are wondering, I did repeat my initial “standard” Kdenlive render test on the Pi 5 many times, and with lots of different settings -- and it always came out at 2 minutes 8 seconds, give or take a second.
In the final edit, note that my opening and closing shots to camera were composited in Adobe After Effects on an i7 PC as they always are, and then put into Kdenlive on the Pi 5. The timelapse segments (eg in the cooling tests) were edited as distinct sub-edits, again as is my standard practice, but here in Kdenlive on the Pi 5.
KDENLIVE DESKTOP SHORTCUT
The icon I added to the desktop to launch Kdenlive using XWayland (so that it will work with the latest version of Raspberry Pi OS), was a link to a Bash script that contained the following two lines:
#!/bin/bash
QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb kdenlive
The above script was created in Geany, and saved in the “Desktop” folder. Then, in the properties for the shortcut on the desktop (opened via a right click), it was set to “Open with Terminal”. You can call the Bash script anything you like. But I called it Kdenlive XWayland.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:01 Pi 5 Kdenlive
06:55 Pi Teams (MS Teams video call test)
12:21 Passive Cooling
18:57 Wrap
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@nikobellic570 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris for saving me from grim tv news for 20 min
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Greetings fellow Christopher!
@pabloalonso9083 10 ай бұрын
🤣
@ryantoarif 10 ай бұрын
What 😂
@panconqueso9195 10 ай бұрын
I don't get it
10 ай бұрын
20? Much more!
@N0WYO1 10 ай бұрын
This is really an incredible result for such a small form factor. I've decided to see where this leads in the next couple years. I might just be upgrading my pc to one of these! Great video, Chris.
@BangBangBang. 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't use a SBC as a primary computer. Yes, you can. But it's always fun as a tinkering machine.
@schrodingersmechanic7622 10 ай бұрын
For what a Pi costs you can get a solid refurbished thin client that will absolutely trounce it in performance. I picked up an I-7 desktop variant with 32G Ram and 1 TB SSD for $250. Pi's need to be $35 again to be competitive
@jothain 10 ай бұрын
@@schrodingersmechanic7622 Yeah, It's cool that they're fairly powerful nowdays, but I'm also really worried that they're indeed going for desktop performace. That's not what rpi's are. Imo they're for tinkering with electronics, doing some thing in homenetworks like Octoprint etc. anything else but to run fully fledged desktop UI's. Pricing is running out of hands.
@dennisanderson8663 9 ай бұрын
I still see Raspberry Pi as a hobby platform. If you want a cheap desktop replacement, you're better off getting a mini PC. I recently got a KAMRUI with a Ryzen 5 that has AMD Vega graphics built-in for under $250. It handles all the emulators I throw at it too, tested up to original Wii. Geekbench: Raspberry Pi 5 Model B Rev 1.0 - 603 single-core score, 1608 multi-core score KAMRUI Ryzen 5 - 1527 single-core score, 6104 multi-core score
@kevinmcaleer28 10 ай бұрын
Great video Chris! Was honoured to be the second only guest!
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for being on the show Kevin. :) It worked! :)
@Mhm_Rhm 10 ай бұрын
I can not imagine the amount of time an energy that has gone to this video. Excellent job.
@jinty83 10 ай бұрын
It's nice to see you having fun testing a new Pi Chris. I'm impressed with the efficiency of the official Heatsink/Fan which is what I've ordered with mine. The results of your tests are interesting, and it's nice to see that it is capable of video editing in a very reasonable time for it's size and capabilities. The video calling worked well too. Thanks for all of your efforts on our behalf, I look forward to seeing how things develop before the official release date. Best wishes until the next video 😃
@uncaringbear 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video, Chris! The early tests at passive cooling looks really promising. I look forward to when you install an m.2 nvme drive!
@Praxibetel-Ix 10 ай бұрын
Looks like that little Pi did a good job at handling video editing and rendering, video calling, and keeping cool. Okay, well, it wouldn't be fair to the coolers and fans used if we didn't give them credit for their work too. You're doing a great job yourself at showing just how good the upcoming Raspberry Pi can run. Also, it was good to see Kevin! I should really consider watching more of his stuff. Now for the real test: to see if it'll run a game. Muahahahahahaha... >:)
@alanthornton3530 10 ай бұрын
You've been watching Jeff threatening the Pi with a massive GPU in the hope that he can run it through the pcie slot, I hope that you're keeping OK too :)
@Praxibetel-Ix 10 ай бұрын
@@alanthornton3530 No, I haven't! I will have to give that a watch at some point. As for how I'm doing, I haven't been doing too great mentally for a while but, well, I'm alive, surviving, and doing alright for now so there's that!
@alanthornton3530 10 ай бұрын
@@Praxibetel-Ix Sorry to hear that take care!
@Praxibetel-Ix 10 ай бұрын
@@alanthornton3530 Thank you. I'm doing my very best with self-care!
@laynemccormic9102 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate your testing of passive coolers, the results look promising
@tommyle628 10 ай бұрын
Too bad the Orange Pi 5 will never have the community support and tons of cool mods. Meanwhile, we are most likely stuck with the Pi 5 for a while.
@legojenn 10 ай бұрын
I am happy to see this. I've been trying to buy a Pi4 for nearly a year after my Pi3 failed. I may skip to the Pi5 if it is available locally soon. Pi4s are only now appearing online locally for purchase. Also, I'm happy to see that this version is able to work well as a general purpose computer, even if may never be required to do so by most users. As you have shown earlier refurbished x64 computers can do more for less, but the Pi is and will continue to be perfect for other specialised purposes. Thanks again for another demo.
@ninline2000 10 ай бұрын
I remember when the pi4 came out, I tested the speed of converting a video using Handbrake. Over the course of the first year, the speed got better with each OS update. A lot better.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
And I imagine this will happen again. Raspberry Pi are very good at software optimization.
@CommodoreFan64 10 ай бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers I'm even more excited to see what the Manjaro team does with the Pi 5, as from all I've seen from other channels the Pi 4 did very well on the Manjaro builds, and sometimes even outclassed Raspberry Pi OS for getting the most out of the Pi 4.
@philipstaite4775 10 ай бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 I run Manjaro on a Pi 4 - very useful. I also run same OS on a mid-range Dell laptop and an older piece--built desktop (mid-range Core i5 based, but several years old now). For what I use computers for the Pi 4 could *almost* do everything. Basically in some video playback situations it stumbled. Also ran into some "browser/hardware not supported" issues with websites. Hence I keep the Intel based machines around. I'm going to pick up a Pi 5 and try it, just to experiment with.
@foldionepapyrus3441 10 ай бұрын
@@philipstaite4775 Was the 'browser not supported stuff' widevine plugin perchance? The only issue I ever ran into that wasn't exceeding any reasonable expectation of the SBC's performance and browser was widevine. If it is I got round that issue by deliberately installing the 32bit chromium as 32bit arm was supported but 64 bit still isn't as far as I know.
@John.0z 10 ай бұрын
I had a similar progression when using my first Pi4/4GB as a 24X7 server, running RasRiOS and RAID 1 on two 1TB SSDs for the data. The stability and speed are now excellent - I have owned commercial NAS boxes that were both slower and less reliable. Plus my P4 is silent as it has no moving parts.
@MichelMorinMontreal 10 ай бұрын
Initial tests have been encouraging. Software adjustments will most likely follow in the coming months, and the main irritants will be a thing of the past... The new version of the Raspberry Pi seems to be living up to expectations!
@ahmad-murery 10 ай бұрын
I missed the temperature tests too, and I miss Pi coding/projects as well. I watched the interview Kevin did with you, and Kevin is a gentleman no wonder you Pi call him today. Thanks Chris!
@michaelwright2986 10 ай бұрын
Microsoft Teams session starts: "Hello. Can you hear me?" "Yes. Can you hear me?" This is exactly the same protocol with which I begin all Zoom calls. In the fragmented world of tech, it is good to see that there are some industry standards.
@squelchstuff 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. Some critics have been saying that the Pi5 is lacking compared to other, recent, SBC's, but that may be simply based on paper specs alone, and a general misunderstanding of exactly what the target market is. I've just been watching your interview with Kevin, and your observation that removing bottlenecks on the Pi5 rather than "feature" or headline specs, is right on point. Typically, I've only just acquired a Pi4 (Directly from the Pi Shop) just five weeks ago. I think I might have gone for the 5 simply based on the GPIO being handed off to the RP1 "southbridge" like IO controller. It's always the way isn't it? 🙄 I wouldn't exactly choose to video edit on a Pi, but as you demonstrate here, it is more than capable, so I might have to raid the piggybank and make another shop visit sporting my Raspberry Pi swag bag in a week or so. 👜 Thanks for introducing Kevin by the way. He's somehow fallen below my radar and the "algorithm". He's gained a sub.
@Modulation75 10 ай бұрын
Rpi4 as desktop is almost unusable. Rpi5 it's a better experience but I don't have any hope in getting it anytime soon.
@squelchstuff 10 ай бұрын
@@Modulation75 The Desktop experience is not the best I agree, and there are more suitable devices out there for that. I wouldn't call it unusable however. The fact that it is so inexpensive and can do so many other tasks with ease of implementation, is where some people, perhaps, have too higher expectations. Jack of all trades, master of none comes to mind, but with the exception that it can realise pretty much whatever the imagination can come up with as a prototype, learning exercise, or simple jumping off point.
@benholroyd5221 10 ай бұрын
RPI has never been about being the fastest. It doesn't particularly need to be. You're paying for the community, documents, driver support.
@salvadorGC338 10 ай бұрын
@@benholroyd5221 Yes and no, Yes about support, and no because it used to be the better price/performance option too, with others SBC offering maybe some better I/O like emmc and m.2 with similar or lower performance. For years everything was compared against the RPI4 and it came up on top, until the RK3588 arrived, and the RK3588 got delayed due to covid. The SBC world has envolved a lot ever since RPI1 was launched, with microcontrollers getting faster and better each year taking away a lot of the non-general use that the RPI was originally intended for. And now other brands like Rockchip are starting to get decent mainline support what is starting to eat away some of the "community & drivers support" thing as well. And you can see that because the prices are intended to undercut RK3588S prices, thats very clear. And with full mainline support there is not contest here, the RK3588S is faster in cpu and a lot faster in GPU with better I/O as well. To the point that im started to wonder if the Raspberry foundation intention with the new chipset is to sell it to other brands in order to make Raspberry PI compatible devices.
@zebrasprite 10 ай бұрын
The Pi 5 has really made the wait worth it, in my opinion. I can't wait to install some of these in my rack.
@srtcsb 10 ай бұрын
The RPi 5 is looking very impressive. Good to see such quality progress (and excellent testing procedures, as usual 🙂). Thanks for another great video.
@KOTZLOVRED 10 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for your video, great tests. Separately, I want to tell you that listening to you is the same as listening to the Beatles. Thanks again
@qg786 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris for covering the different cooling methods and the temperature comparisons, it's got a lot of potential. . 👍
@reggiedixon2 10 ай бұрын
I love it when people say "you can buy an Intel system for blah". This is missing the entire point of why the Raspberry Pi was created. I know almost everyone understands this but it still bears repeating. I ordered mine as soon as you could, I have a AMD Ryzen 7600 desktop and a Ryzen 5600H laptop and an Android smartphone. They all have different use cases than the Pi (and each other), they are not competing with each other. This is not rocket surgery.
@perrymcclusky4695 10 ай бұрын
What a treat! I hope other KZfaq viewers like this video as much as I do. I hope to see some sort of experiment using two cameras on the Pi 5! Looking forward to your next video.
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- 10 ай бұрын
He truly is the Master. He's one the hardest working KZfaqrs on the platform.
@JesseGudgeon2007 10 ай бұрын
I recently used a pi 4 for an online lesson with my college using teams, it actually worked surprisingly well, great video as usual
@chriholt 10 ай бұрын
Very impressive for the 5! Plus I really enjoyed the collab with Kevin :)
@tremorist 10 ай бұрын
Gotta love the smell of warm electronics in the morning.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
It is a smell that can strangely bring on a feeling of both confidence and alarm. :)
@McRocket 10 ай бұрын
I find your unique delivery, very relaxing/comforting. Like that of a quirky college professor whom is well liked/respected. ☮
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@edrd6257 10 ай бұрын
So Raspberry Pi 5 is 2.5 times slower than Orange Pi 5 in EC Kdenlive test. OPi5 52s vs 128s for RPi5 is a HUGE difference.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
The Pi 5 may not be running Kdenlive optimally here. But regardless, the Orange Pi 5 has four A76 cores and four more A55s, whilst the Pi 5 has four A76 core only. And this has to make a difference.
@danieljames1921 9 ай бұрын
Very cool to see Kdenlive running on a Pi . Thank you.
@user-nt8he2vv8f 10 ай бұрын
Tanks Chris for computer news...
@OW79 10 ай бұрын
I can only applaud that RPI came up with a small form factor/low clearance cooling solution that, although active, isn't loud or annoying. Great video, Chris! I hope you'll run the test again when you have a case, would be interesting to see how the official cooling solution does within the RPI's case.
@pilotcritic 10 ай бұрын
I love numbers, charts, and graphs, so appreciated the temperature test very much.
@bramfran4326 10 ай бұрын
This moment 5:42 reminded me of Spaceballs. (the scene where the heroes see their own movie) 😂
@christopherleadholm6677 10 ай бұрын
Hello, fellow Christopher! ... back again. Good to see more good pi5 content.
@alanthornton3530 10 ай бұрын
I'm impressed with the Pi 5 & it's capabilities, the passive cooling & the call with Kevin worked really well, I'm looking forward to seeing future developments for the board. Once launched the Wayland code should've been sorted out for Kdenlive, the render times aren't too shabby enough time to make a cup of tea & a sandwich what's not to like :) Thank you for another interesting Sunday video!
@tubegor 10 ай бұрын
Great video Chris. As a senior citizen, I was worried about Covid in the fall. Now there are much more serious worries about where I can buy RPI 5. My conclusion from this video is that if you have a large enough passive cooler, a fan is absolutely unnecessary, but a problem arises if you want to put a HAT on RPI.
@jyvben1520 10 ай бұрын
put a ribbon cable on the gpio pins and a hat to the side, or add stacking headers to elevate the pins ...
@tubegor 10 ай бұрын
@@jyvben1520 👍👍👍Thanks, now the heat problem is solved and also gpio access. Kind regards.
@desktorp 10 ай бұрын
thanks for addressing the cooling situation.. always tends to be my biggest question on these devices
@lesliedeana5142 10 ай бұрын
It took quite a while for the PI corporation to give us a new product, but I dare say,'it was worth it!' More or less out of the chute, (considering it hasn't even been officially released in production, this IS the best offering yet.
@Carlos-ip6tp 10 ай бұрын
I love your videos, genuine real world usage and the calm and descriptivo tone you use is amazing!
@philspencelayh5464 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video particularly the passive cooling segment. I'm a fan of passive cooling, over the years I've changed dozens if not hundreds of cooling fans in equipment racks often they becomes very noisy and total failure isn't rare. I have a Flirc pi4 case where the whole case acts as a heatsink I wouldn't be surprised to see a pi5 version from them.
@davidglenn6468 10 ай бұрын
Another great video Chris… thanks for more tests on the RPi 5. Looking good. Can’t wait for mine to arrive, so I can give it a go.
@centurion8446 10 ай бұрын
Excited for this one. Hoping yo pick one up
@Neilhuny 10 ай бұрын
The KydenLive Edit and Render explanation fascinated me. I have no intention of EVER editing my home made videos to such a high standard (my bad; I'll live with it) but I am delighted that you (and so many others!) do so on KZfaq. It isn't relevant to me on the face of it - but "real world" computing is: the 'standard test/many variations' and Adobe on an I7 PC matter to me, as an 'ordinary' user. Who is ordinary, really? OK, that might need an AI Voltaire or Nietzsche to answer it, but perhaps Barnatt AI Philosophy will rank as highly one day - Raspberry powered? Great video, as always. Many thanks - I have 2 RaspeberryPi 5's on order, plus accessories
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Enjoy your new Pi 5s. :)
@shawnvines2514 10 ай бұрын
Another Excellent Video. I greatly appreciate your attention to detail as well as the information provided. I'm excited to see Raspberry Pis now being sold approaching normal pricing especially considering the inflation from when they were last easily available.
@Shmoozo55 10 ай бұрын
I have to say that the video call test is a nice addition to your SBC test suite. It does provide a bit more insight into the capabilities of both the hardware and the software.
@smile768 10 ай бұрын
Keep them coming Chris! Lots of things to explore with the latest Pi slice. I am sure software optimisation will be massive here and you even mentioned Wayland /X org, (which is like politics and religion at a dinner party all into one!) I didn't get the Pi 4 because it was close but not quite there for video etc. The Pi 5 is very exciting and I will be acquiring one shortly.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Great comment on Wayland!
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 ай бұрын
To paraphrase JFK, “ask not what Open Source can do for you, ask what you can do for Open Source”. Xorg is dying because nobody cares about it any more. If you want to get together a band of like-minded enthusiasts to keep it going, nobody is stopping you.
@BrownieX001 10 ай бұрын
Will be exciting to see what sort of emulation performance this thing has.
@povilasstaniulis9484 10 ай бұрын
ETA PRIME already did some emulation tests on the Pi 5.
@gphonemedic 10 ай бұрын
It's very nice to have a new pi 5
@RoboNuggie 10 ай бұрын
Thank you as always for a great video. Top KZfaqr and an all round great guy...
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your support.
@olias58 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great and relevant video!
@user-bf5vn8so5k 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the new content!
@lawrenceallwright7041 10 ай бұрын
You can't beat "the smell of warm electronics in the air." Impressive video performance!
@gregholloway2656 10 ай бұрын
Great video, Chris, thanks! If you’re looking for more things to test on Pi5, I can think of two things. First, ways to add the analog audio output back. I see options using both USB and GPIO, but haven’t tested them myself. Second, with the new dual USB3 controllers in RP1, how about drive to drive transfer speed compared to RPi4? 👍
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
That GPIO audio out (and audio in) does indeed need testing. :)
@bfapple 10 ай бұрын
Are the Pimoroni “Pirate Audio” DAC hats compatible with RPi 5? I have a number of them left over (e.g. the lineout and headphone amp versions) from when I used to work at Pimoroni.
@johnny58435 10 ай бұрын
Love your clear step by step video 👍 always your old time subscriber
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Maxume 10 ай бұрын
Every time I see one of these Pi videos, I wish I had an application that would justify me getting one. Seems like a fascinating field.
@awesomearizona-dino 10 ай бұрын
Good Morning Chris. thanks for the news
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Greetings!
@privacyvalued4134 10 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the passive heatsink test. The Pi was always about low power computing adaptable to a wide range of environments including industrial control solutions where active cooling would be a non-starter since the Pi would be placed into an environmentally sealed box to avoid dust, debris, and fluids or chemicals from getting inside to mess up the electronics.
@TerenceKearns 9 ай бұрын
i thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thanks so much.
@lilblackduc7312 10 ай бұрын
A phenomenal SBC, indeed! Thank you, Professor...🇺🇸 👍☕
@jose.inestroza 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Mr. C.B.! Impressive insight about the Raspberry Pi 5. Indeed, it truly seems like a step forward in terms of price vs performance for the Raspberry Pi. Amazing content as always!
@firepowerg 10 ай бұрын
5 Raspberry Pi's? That's a lot of pie. I'm hungry now.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Lots of Pi indeed. Greetings! And gold medal duly awarded.
@subynut 10 ай бұрын
This new RPi 5 is turning out to be very promising!
@NOPerative 10 ай бұрын
Excellent showcase; end-to-end results are incredible. Wonderful video, as usual.
@Goman1244 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the wonderful evaluation of the new Raspberry Pi 5.
@ThisIsHolyJJ 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris, for yet another excellent video. I'm very pleasantly surprised by the final third party passive cooling option. For those of us looking for a cost effective server option that is great news. What I found even more interesting, however, was the comparison with the Orange Pi 5. Since the RPi5 release I've always wanted to know how it compares to the OPi5 (or even the OPi5+) in terms of performance. Would love to see further experiments. For now though it is clear that the Orange Pi is something of an SBC beast.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
The Orange Pi 5 has 4 x A76 and 4 x A53 cores, whilst the Pi 5 has 4 x A76. So the Orange Pi 5 is likely to outperform it in many tests.
@novantha1 10 ай бұрын
The orange pi 5 is made with an RK3588 SoC, on a fairly modern node (7NM I think) which lends it quite a bit of efficiency and multithreading performance. If by "server" you mean high compute, the RK3588 comes out on top. If by "server" you mean high storage capacity, either will do. If by "server" you need large quantities of RAM to server applications and so on, and you'll be doing a cluster, the RK3588 will definitely have some power savings that are worth considering, as well as higher RAM capacities available if I remember correctly.
@cmdr_pressy 10 ай бұрын
thx for the temperature tests
@joeg3950 10 ай бұрын
I keep looking to decrease my desktop footprint to make room for decorations and other forms of distraction. This may fit the bill to realize that dream. Additionally, I’m excited about the new Pi 5. Thanks for an informative video! Again, great content!
@kritpitako 10 ай бұрын
The thumbnail brought me here.😅 😂 Love that cooling solution ☺️☺️
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 ай бұрын
11:02 “Reading you five by five” might be the apropos phrase at this point.
@VanessaWJ 10 ай бұрын
Great to see how well the passive cooling worked.
@computergamingyesterday 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see passive cooling is still not just possible but actually relatively easy.
@floydlooney6837 10 ай бұрын
I like the Pi 4 case. Every Pi deserves a case like that.
@markwhidby5148 10 ай бұрын
I love the smell of warm electronics in the morning.
@euphanasia210 10 ай бұрын
Impressive, definitely going to get me a Pi 5 after watching this video.
@kattz753 10 ай бұрын
I'm so looking forward to getting a new Raspberry Pi. But...I just stopped by the Orange Pi site. A new Orange Pi 5+ is up for pre-order. It has 32 GB of RAM and a full 2280 NVME slot for about $250 Canadian shipped. That includes case and power supply. I'm not sure what anyone would use all that RAM for but it's there if you need it. Unbelievable choices these days. Oops, missed that it also includes 256 GB emmc. Now THAT'S an unbelievable deal!
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
The Orange Pi 5 (family) is a very good series of SBCs, with hardware specs that deliver more than a Pi 5 -- more CPU power, eMMC (that is twice the speed of the Pi 5's microSD interface) and an onboard M.2 slot as you say. So it all comes down to the software support. And the Orange Pi 5 has been better supported than most Orange Pi models. But how long this will last we do not know. As you say, great choices now for an ARM SBC.
@helloimatapir 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tests, Chris! Impressive results with the passive heat sink, though it is gigantic. I'm just happy that the stock cooler isn't noisy and doesn't have coil whine. I haven't bought a Pi since the first generation. This Pi 5 might be my next purchase.
@bubuAdm 9 ай бұрын
so, great news about the passive cooling !!! thanks for the test !! 😊😊😊
@erikshahverdyan2748 10 ай бұрын
Very wonderful work Chris.
@GustavoMsTrashCan 10 ай бұрын
14:32 Look at the size of that heatsink!
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
That's no heatsink . . . it's a space station. (Well, OK, it's a heatsink).
@Praxibetel-Ix 10 ай бұрын
"Yes, Jamie. It is a big one." (I couldn't help myself)
@williama29 10 ай бұрын
thanks to chris for making videos that are fun to watch and or more entertaining than news in the real world
@chrisschembari2486 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, CB, for another excellent video. It's good news to see that these video-intensive tasks are mere trifles for the Pi. I would suggest passive cooling by storing one's Pi in the icebox, but that would complicate the wiring. Puns intended.
@jimlynch9390 10 ай бұрын
Another fine video. I'm impressed with the P5. Thanks for the cooling review. That was Cool! or should I say, enlightening.
@Auraxium 6 ай бұрын
"We can see ducks and stuff" Say no more, I've ordered one
@ExplainingComputers 6 ай бұрын
:)
@Auraxium 6 ай бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers by the way Chris, I also tested my Pi 5 caseless with the official Active cooler that I turned into a Passive cooler (unscrewed the fan assembly). Using `stress-ng --matrix 0` will bounce it off the thermal limiter in a few minutes. Also, since the GPU is more powerful this time around, stressing just that it on its own can still generate a lot of heat now. I used `glmark2-es2` for this purpose and saw temps of 60C with the Passive cooler even with the ARM cores mostly idle. These tests were performed at around 19C ambient. It's fast board, but I hope we can see some thermal/power optimisations in firmware like we did with the Pi 4, but who knows.
@stromwind 10 ай бұрын
The testing method is simple and effective. I borrowed it to test my own machine. Thank you.
@phrankus2009 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Chris. Just a side note. With regard to the current performance and features of used, "Liter Class" X86 Refurbs, It seems that newer stock is rolling into availability, at a given price. It does seem that better (newer) processors and better, standard I/O specs are available, for prices under $200 USD, at this juncture. A moving target, as always, I suppose.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
A very good point. We are going to get better and better refurb hardware for some time I think, right up until the 2025 Windows 10 end of life.
@waynerowlinson6177 10 ай бұрын
I was going to post a similar comment. I have every version of the "regular" Raspberry Pi and Pi Zero since they came out, not including the Pi 5. While I love my Pi 4, and used it as my bedroom browser/media player for a couple of years, I recently purchased a couple litre class PCs for a lot less money, with better I/O than the Raspberry Pi. Significantly better performance as well. I hope to also get a Pi 5 soon, and if I do will likely make it my primary bedroom PC as well, but miss the days of the $35 Pi. $35 was in my budget to purchase a "gizmo", $100+ is not, even though this thing looks amazing.
@christianvitroler5289 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the informative video and the clear explanations. Looks like my first Linux computer will be a Raspberry. If it is good enough for video editing, it ought to be good enough for most things
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. You clearly get that my video editing test is not just about video editing. :)
@TheEulerID 10 ай бұрын
There must surely be a Pi 500 on its way, which would make for a very neat and usable small desktop machine. Hopefully it would include space for an NVMe SSD
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
You would think! :) Like you, I imagine such a device with a little compartment in the base that opens up to add an NVME SSD. And maybe, just maybe, they could use full-size HDMI ports! :)
@tubeDude48 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris. Most informative. The Pi 5 Fan really does the job.
@captainsunshine918 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the passive cooling tests! Passive cooling is important enough to me that I would pass on the Pi-5 altogether if there were no passive cooling options.
@pdacore 10 ай бұрын
I wonder, since the Pi 5 omits the audio jack, if you could use one of those USB sound card dongles to connect a microphone and headphones to it?
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
You could. But earlier this week the full RP1 specs were published, so we now know that audio (in and out) are available via GPIO: datasheets.raspberrypi.com/rp1/rp1-peripherals.pdf
@RoboNuggie 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video Chris, the passive cooling was as an interesting result..... Can't wait to get FreeBSD on it and see how things run and no Wayland 🙂
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
Yes, we need FreeBSD on a Pi, and the option of whether to use Wayland in other OS. :)
@mhh3 10 ай бұрын
How do you feel about the SOC? i was kinda expecting a 8core configuration this time around.
@ExplainingComputers 10 ай бұрын
I'm not unhappy with the SoC. The new GPU in it clearly makes a big difference, as does the RP1 by providing better IO bandwith, and I think we also benefit from the DDR4 RAM. So the Pi 5 is a well balanced SBC. But inevitably the octa core RK3588 boards (with their 4 x A76 cores and 4 x A55) are going to beat the Pi 5 on pure CPU performance, given that the Pi is 4 x A76 "only".
@chromerims 10 ай бұрын
Jolly delightful! 👍 Whilst the large blue cooler will be thermally soaked over a longer test run as certainly as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West (the nitpicking naysayers may naysay), mayhaps we should not be too worried as there's a wondrous world full of great things to do with a rPi 5 or 4 or or 3 or 0 --- plenty of which come with less perfectly-intensive compute demands. Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
@ObsidianMercian 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris, the cooling section of the video reminded me of the days when I first discovered your channel when you were doing cooling tests on the RPi3. One thought for a potential video - how good is the RPi5 as an educational computer? You could look at everything from available resources (including the bookshelf program) to software (including programs such as Stellarium and Libre office).
@tomas5376 10 ай бұрын
Great testing! PI5 can easily replace desktop computers! Gracias
@Alexrocks1253 10 ай бұрын
Christopher! I have a good idea for a video you should do. There’s a project called Cinepi V2 that uses a Raspberry Pi 4B and a HQ camera to make a cinema camera that records 12-bit cinema DNG. Seems like something right up your alley and the most difficult thing needed is some soldering.
@adoteq_ 9 ай бұрын
Still waiting for my pre-order to be sent. (Nov 12 2023)
@kiodiekin 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! I was waiting for this
@Kw1161 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris for this demonstration video! I am looking forward to purchasing one. I have one ideal for a passive heat-sink....a coffee cup warmer, that should be great for editing videos....:)! Have a nice week!
@georgekokotis5732 10 ай бұрын
During the previous weekend, the local authorized dealer in Greece had a formal presentation of the Pi5. One of the exhibited Pi5s had a 90deg. heatpipe passive cooler fitted - like the ones one may find for gpu cards. With top grade thermal paste being used the temperature during stress tests would not exceed 49 degrees Celsius on an 26 degrees ambient temp
@donaldduck5731 10 ай бұрын
So 50x faster and 125000x more memory than the last spacecraft computer to put man on the moon. Looking forwards to the CubSat flight computer version.