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RATE THE REDESIGNS: Mega Man Battle Network Collection

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Maximilian Dood

Maximilian Dood

Күн бұрын

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Max is back to rate the redesigns for classic good guys and bad in the Mega Man Battle Network Collection! With characters returning in new forms from the original series, it's Max's job to decide whether these takes are heroes or zeroes.
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@emne5750
@emne5750 Жыл бұрын
Im biased. I'm a huge battle network fan and i absolutely love how they adapted and changed many of the designs to fit the internet theme. In short, I'm offended.
@VioTUmbra
@VioTUmbra Жыл бұрын
I’m biased as hell too as BN and Zero are the games that got me into MegaMan
@zeroshadeslayer3000
@zeroshadeslayer3000 Жыл бұрын
For me X was first then the rest
@rainofkhandaq6678
@rainofkhandaq6678 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, you're not the biased one, lmao
@WasabiTurtle
@WasabiTurtle Жыл бұрын
Time to grow up
@aristo2978
@aristo2978 Жыл бұрын
In short I’m offended.
@asaka616
@asaka616 Жыл бұрын
Max: It doesn't try anything new with the design. Also Max: It tried too much new with the design.
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster Жыл бұрын
His ratings with that are so all over the place, it's not a thing I'm remotely taking seriously.
@brandonsclips7741
@brandonsclips7741 Жыл бұрын
@@UltimaKeyMaster yeah max is just spit balling his takes, it never really mattered. . I'm 'offended' but I'm not OFFENDED, ya know?
@ZariLutus
@ZariLutus Жыл бұрын
yeah I noticed this. It felt really strange
@theotherjared9824
@theotherjared9824 Жыл бұрын
Same thing with references. He's rather strict when something is a direct reference, unless it's a reference he likes, then it's the greatest thing ever.
@roxtechs
@roxtechs Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for SF6 redesigns review
@yamatoko219
@yamatoko219 Жыл бұрын
The fact that these designs seem modern 20 freaking years later speaks to the quality of battlenetwork.
@CountofBleck
@CountofBleck Жыл бұрын
I like how Max talks about how the modernized them, despite the fact these came out like 20 years ago. its the new retro modern era of designs!
@trigs7127
@trigs7127 Жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how well these designs holds up. Heck, I'm even surprised he bothered checking the game out when his reaction to the announcement was so muted.
@darrylaz3570
@darrylaz3570 Жыл бұрын
​@@trigs7127 He was sponsored by Capcom to play the game, and even then he played BN3 and hasn't reached the first boss yet when he called it a day lol
@MergedWarriors
@MergedWarriors Жыл бұрын
This is the Mega Man era I grew up with. I wouldn't mind rewatching the anime again.
@Flamelance_Accendo
@Flamelance_Accendo Жыл бұрын
I still hate how the rest of it isn't dubbed..
@danthefool21
@danthefool21 Жыл бұрын
Is it streaming anywhere?
@unnamedx2
@unnamedx2 Жыл бұрын
Same
@vstpnv
@vstpnv Жыл бұрын
it's currently going live on capcom's twitch
@paperluigi6132
@paperluigi6132 Жыл бұрын
@@danthefool21 the entire dub is available on Capcom’s official KZfaq channel until September.
@kai_824
@kai_824 Жыл бұрын
I think one needs to consider these aren't robots. They're Netnavis, they're designed so different to better emphasize thier power and less of the MAN aspect. Like half the early robot masters all looked the same anyways. Im always for different designs. The npcs in BN already almost all look the same now imagine if all the Netnavis had the same body type as the robot masters. The games designs would be infinitely worse Its kinda unfair to judge them like that
@KinglyRed
@KinglyRed Жыл бұрын
For those who are unaware: Battle Network is essentially an AU where internet technology is what blew up instead of robotics in the Classic timeline. Dr. Light is the main character Lan's grandfather and Wily is the main antagonist of the series
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Жыл бұрын
So it's basically the irl timeline
@phantasosxgames8488
@phantasosxgames8488 Жыл бұрын
@@priestesslucy3299 it's even better: Dr.Light only decided to research internet over robotics , because he acquired a girlfriend during his years in university. And overall , Battle Networkd -> Star Force Timeline is almost an utopia in comparisson to Classic Timeline.
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 Жыл бұрын
​​@@phantasosxgames8488 The implication of this, seeing he eventually had a family in BN, while he didn't in the mainline and seemingly needed robots to have companionship, is quite a realization now, with very drastic futures for both.
@roldanmarcelo1636
@roldanmarcelo1636 Жыл бұрын
@@phantasosxgames8488 Dr. Light getting pussy = more peaceful future
@Klonoahedgehog
@Klonoahedgehog Жыл бұрын
@@zjzr08 The fate of humanity in Megaman rests entirely on wether or not Light scored.
@Knightmare1212
@Knightmare1212 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Max is evaluating these designs like they were made for a remake of the Mega Man classic games and not the alternate timeline reimagining that Battle Network is.
@rainofkhandaq6678
@rainofkhandaq6678 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much, unfortunate.
@MrRedguy321
@MrRedguy321 Жыл бұрын
This.
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 Жыл бұрын
I'm straight up confused wth his criteria's were.
@hiiambarney4489
@hiiambarney4489 Жыл бұрын
Pshhhht, he doesn't know!
@Vexal50
@Vexal50 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, some of the designs were altered to the point of being unrecognizable, such as Roll. And then there's weird choices like having Protoman being more inspired by Zero than the actual Protoman.....which was rather silly in hindsight, since they *did* make Zero eventually in Network Transmission
@MegaManXPoweredUp
@MegaManXPoweredUp Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked at how negative Max is about these designs. Seems his criteria is that they have to be upgrades to their original designs, and not too radically different.
@TheMoonman4
@TheMoonman4 Жыл бұрын
he's not too keen on the goofier/cuter designs neither
@onirush9338
@onirush9338 Жыл бұрын
He was pretty negative about the entire game tbh. Personally, I love this series and I think it’s the dopest form of MegaMan and pals.
@haoxinlinying5278
@haoxinlinying5278 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMoonman4 yeah the entire point is to introduce Megaman to a new young audience.
@lazybacon7520
@lazybacon7520 Жыл бұрын
He's mentioned before he never got into this series back when it came out, so I kind of expected this.
@rainofkhandaq6678
@rainofkhandaq6678 Жыл бұрын
Most of the time Max' opinions are based on rose tinted nostalgia goggles, it's all good.
@thecookiegolem
@thecookiegolem Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why he just dismissed Roll like that... she looks cool?!
@HenshinFanatic
@HenshinFanatic Жыл бұрын
Guess he thinks her place is in the kitchen. /obviousjoke
@EpicSubmarines
@EpicSubmarines Жыл бұрын
@@HenshinFanatic yeah because she's a dinner roll.
@Sonicfalcon16
@Sonicfalcon16 Жыл бұрын
massive upgrade IMO the exe version
@goji3755
@goji3755 Жыл бұрын
Battle Network Roll is best Roll. I can't imagine seeing Roll's redesign and having such an intensely negative reaction to it when the classic Roll was just a little girl with the classic series' trademark of fat boots.
@andrewstephenson5825
@andrewstephenson5825 6 ай бұрын
Not only does Roll look cool, she IS cool! I mean, somewhat unsurprisingly, the actual story never lets her be cool (at least as far as I've gotten, which is partway through BN3 White), but her Navi battle chips have always had a place in my folder!
@Guile_The_Exile
@Guile_The_Exile Жыл бұрын
Max woke up today and drank a gallon of *HaterAid* ☠️
@DavidZakuzaRyutashi
@DavidZakuzaRyutashi Жыл бұрын
Fr tho, rare max L
@d3athscythe575
@d3athscythe575 Жыл бұрын
You do know it's his opinion right
@LTDLetsPlays
@LTDLetsPlays Жыл бұрын
@@d3athscythe575 we can always argue the reasoning behind the opinion
@samuraibeluga3749
@samuraibeluga3749 Жыл бұрын
@@LTDLetsPlays there is no reasoning, its subjective tastes in character design...damn yall are so overly defensive over this. good to know to stay away from this fanbase.
@loreleiofthemist
@loreleiofthemist 2 ай бұрын
​@@samuraibeluga3749 opinions can be trash. get over it.
@ghostcities6742
@ghostcities6742 Жыл бұрын
Max: They didn't change it enough Also Max: Egh, they changed it too much, its bad.
@Sonicfalcon16
@Sonicfalcon16 Жыл бұрын
Chat was the best this video. Everyone had good takes
@hype5456
@hype5456 6 ай бұрын
There are designs that drastically too different from one another and those that do the bare minimum
@TheMoonman4
@TheMoonman4 Жыл бұрын
I honestly appreciated they went a bit wild with some of these designs even if they're hit-or-miss, I always liked the variety. Heatman.EXE is rad to me
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah Жыл бұрын
Heatman.exe for life
@Lunatic89097
@Lunatic89097 Жыл бұрын
Like a Zippo gremlin. Looks great!
@JayceCH.
@JayceCH. Жыл бұрын
Most of them are pretty much a homerun. Like Heatman? Thats fucking 10/10. Sick ass opened vintage lighter with flames for eyes and fingers???? Thats peak design.
@Hakudan2
@Hakudan2 Жыл бұрын
Skullman looks SICK what the hell are you smoking
@MossoDaBanana
@MossoDaBanana Жыл бұрын
@@Feroce the original official art, not the battle network (which imho, is too childish)
@an0n-1o1
@an0n-1o1 Жыл бұрын
ngl he looks like papyrus
@DavidZakuzaRyutashi
@DavidZakuzaRyutashi Жыл бұрын
@@an0n-1o1 Papyrus looks like him, you mean.
@MossoDaBanana
@MossoDaBanana Жыл бұрын
@@DavidZakuzaRyutashi they both look like generic skeletons lol
@cirocustodio
@cirocustodio Жыл бұрын
BECAUSE HE IS A FUKIN SKULL? DEAR GOD
@bean-charlieartz3138
@bean-charlieartz3138 Жыл бұрын
I think most of these designs are pretty good especially HEATMAN I like the way the fingers were created and the way the face is on fire.
@Ziggaton
@Ziggaton Жыл бұрын
Yeah Max is falling heavy into "They changed it too much so it sucks". But I guess critical character design isn't his forte
@ZariLutus
@ZariLutus Жыл бұрын
@@Ziggaton "they changed it too much so it sucks" then the very next one: "too traditional"
@RegurkAbas
@RegurkAbas Жыл бұрын
@@Ziggaton But he also says "They didn't change Fire Man enough" so like...what does he want lol
@fernandotredinnick7443
@fernandotredinnick7443 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Heatman.EXE has one of the best designs.
@LTDLetsPlays
@LTDLetsPlays Жыл бұрын
@@Ziggaton he is bad at giving good reasons behind his opinions
@PeskyFiend
@PeskyFiend Жыл бұрын
Max seems confused on these redesigns being a separate universe doing something different with making its own style while nodding at some of the old robot masters. Weird he interpreted these as the same exact characters with “rebooted” 2000’s designs they both can exist at the same time. This is why old fans didn’t get it when it came out.
@XenogearsEXE
@XenogearsEXE Жыл бұрын
Can't disagree harder with most of the ratings. I love that Battle Network went out its way to give a lot of the robot masters more inspired designs based of the characters motifs. Makes them so much more memorable for me.
@Sonicfalcon16
@Sonicfalcon16 10 ай бұрын
Chat agrees
@enriquevaldesmedina
@enriquevaldesmedina Жыл бұрын
Yikes. That’s crazy, EXE designs are amazing. Especially in the context of the games.
@jexusdomel5194
@jexusdomel5194 Жыл бұрын
I feel like max is too closed off from changes here, but given that these guys are purely digital, they can get a bit more away from purely humanoid designs. I absolutely adore how heatman looks, I think it's sick. I wish they had more out there designs like it (it's not like heatman was amazing before ya know?)
@shonenbois
@shonenbois Жыл бұрын
I’m really happy the Battle Network redesigns of the robot master go so hard and definitely Shadow man and Metal man’s redesigns are my favorite
@BROXBasher
@BROXBasher Жыл бұрын
My blocky robot character was originally based off of Guts Soul, and my racer robot initially was Gyroman.exe, but later became half Gyroman.exe and half Turbo Man.
@YamiAtomsk
@YamiAtomsk Жыл бұрын
Max: this design is too close to the original Also Max: this design isn't enough like the original
@miki1177
@miki1177 Жыл бұрын
Glad he's checking out the Battle Network series, but it's very flat-out obvious that Max has very little understanding on the design sensibilities when it comes to Battle Network designs given how abstract they tend to play with a lot of the themes (Heat, Snake, etc)
@Ziggaton
@Ziggaton Жыл бұрын
Lol yeah. Not all of them are bangers but some are quite objectively better at conveying theme than og. Wood man and Heatman being big examples. Og designs are literally just "little guy wearing a wood suit or zippo lighter".
@jumpfold
@jumpfold Жыл бұрын
They look awful amd the game sucks
@gdadder
@gdadder Жыл бұрын
@@jumpfold obvious troll is obvious
@rommieyay4444
@rommieyay4444 Жыл бұрын
@@Ziggaton I just said the same thing lol! The original designs of the first few games looked like guys wearing a costume
@BROXBasher
@BROXBasher Жыл бұрын
Well, he’s a fighting gamer at heart, not a Mega Man fan.
@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz Жыл бұрын
love how max's knowledge of persona is that they shoot themselves lol
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster Жыл бұрын
Well, he's correct for...exactly *one* game. It's the one I have the most familiarity with, at least. ;P
@denickart
@denickart Жыл бұрын
​@@UltimaKeyMaster and it's not even the one game he played
@53Spawn
@53Spawn Жыл бұрын
I mean, that was mine too lmao.
@JayceCH.
@JayceCH. Жыл бұрын
@@UltimaKeyMaster Well it's the most memorable one after all.
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster Жыл бұрын
@@JayceCH. We stan Door-kun.
@griffnuts
@griffnuts Жыл бұрын
Christ you know you’ve been watching Max’s “Rate The” for too long when you can call all his ratings based on his first reactions.
@Dasaltwarrior
@Dasaltwarrior Жыл бұрын
If its red and sleek, then he'll like it Max likes his hot rods lol
@SPACECOWBOY705
@SPACECOWBOY705 Жыл бұрын
I don't fellow Mega man at all.... But when I saw that shadow man design I knew it would be a 10
@pyroronnie2473
@pyroronnie2473 Жыл бұрын
@@Dasaltwarrior true
@MattBlackstone
@MattBlackstone Жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂
@V..v..V
@V..v..V Жыл бұрын
​@@Dasaltwarrior Don't forget blonde.
@LhLeo
@LhLeo Жыл бұрын
The mmbn designs are so solid it’s hard to go back
@IkeSan
@IkeSan Жыл бұрын
I never disagreed so much with a Max Video haha. Also you have to understand the context of their looks. They are personal Navis like your own personal pet to use on the Internet.
@syrelian
@syrelian Жыл бұрын
The idea that ElecMan was too far is wild to me, he has a Single Design Element, the coils on his back, meanwhile MM1 ElecMan has... nothing, he's literally just a Dude in a Black-Yellow suit
@Gamesmarts194
@Gamesmarts194 16 күн бұрын
I’ll do you one better: Elec Man is just anime-ish Electro.
@syrelian
@syrelian 15 күн бұрын
@@Gamesmarts194 He really do be cut from the same "zero flair" mold as Electro huh
@KinglyRed
@KinglyRed Жыл бұрын
Watching the NT Warrior anime as a kid and seeing MegaMan.EXE with the mask up and the cybersword out is what got me into Mega Man as a whole. SUCH a cool design
@Busterman64
@Busterman64 Жыл бұрын
So regardless of our opinions on the redesigns for each Navi...are we all gonna agree on Bass having a great redesign?
@therealcannon711
@therealcannon711 Жыл бұрын
BASS.EXE needs to be in a MVC!!!
@SeBzBon
@SeBzBon Жыл бұрын
Been pushing for this since forever
@KyuubiDragon4
@KyuubiDragon4 Жыл бұрын
YES. YES. FUCKING. YES.
@aroperdope
@aroperdope Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@darkrai436
@darkrai436 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Bass.exe actually ranked pretty high in several MvC3 polls at the time, and iirc, he was actually in the top 10 of that one Capcom-Unity poll that the devs took into account for Ultimate's newcomers.
@dragonman011
@dragonman011 Жыл бұрын
It does feel like Max was missing the aim for these designs being more like digital personifications of their themes rather than being actual functioning robots. A lot of these designs are way different from the original Megaman designs, but considering how kinda same-y a lot of the previous robot masters were before .EXE dropped, it brings way more personality to most of them. Some obviously don't hit, Rush is a good example, but eeeeeh... Probably bias and childhood talking but most of these are solid re-imaginings.
@TheNegronomicon
@TheNegronomicon Жыл бұрын
Based on the amount of dislikes and comments, I was expecting Max to trash on everything. He liked most of them and only really dumped on the weird ones. What we have here are a bunch of people too hung up on his personal tastes and a few things he said. He should've given his usual disclaimer about his opinions and people not looking too much into his reasoning. And here I was expecting the second coming of that Jump Force video. Now that was a fun video to watch.
@brandonsclips7741
@brandonsclips7741 Жыл бұрын
It's so funny hearing him call them "modernized" versions of characters when these designs are basically the basis of how I KNOW these characters haha. Major L for that Roll rating though. BN Roll is adorable.
@Ronin-kk4bt
@Ronin-kk4bt Жыл бұрын
I personally love classic roll but bn roll is ok max was pretty harsh on that one lol
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 Жыл бұрын
​@@Feroce Isn't Roll really just a blonde girl android so not really have anything to come of it?
@brandonsclips7741
@brandonsclips7741 Жыл бұрын
@@Feroce I think the Partial reason for that is because in the mainline stuff he's kind of like her brother, right? Roll in this AU kinda has a bit of a crush on Megaman
@gustavocardenasmontalvo1266
@gustavocardenasmontalvo1266 Жыл бұрын
BN Roll is peak
@MattManDX1
@MattManDX1 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonsclips7741 Mainline Roll is only Megaman's sister in the American localization of those games. She was always Megaman's love interest in the Japanese version.
@haoujudai
@haoujudai Жыл бұрын
The designs from Battle Network hit that nice middle ground between the simplicity of the original Mega Man and the detailed designs from the X series and onward. Not too much to make it convoluted, but not too little to deprive itself of the nuances of each character.
@micshork
@micshork Жыл бұрын
This is definitely a generational thing. It’s like having OG TMNT fans react to the 2003 series or OG Transformers fans react to Transformers Cybertron designs. Sometimes you can be too biased to give a fair assessment.
@captainfirefeet
@captainfirefeet Жыл бұрын
I was salty for that Protoman score but Max brought it back with Metal-Man 10/10. Love to see it.
@Lunatic89097
@Lunatic89097 Жыл бұрын
I thought the Zero influence would bring him to at least a 9.
@X_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya
@X_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya Жыл бұрын
@@Lunatic89097 Max isn't a fan of Zero. He calls him green tits mcgee lol.
@Ronin-kk4bt
@Ronin-kk4bt Жыл бұрын
Yeah what’s wrong with protoman? I would give it a 8/10
@captainfirefeet
@captainfirefeet Жыл бұрын
@@Ronin-kk4bt Idk. Protoman is my favorite character. Easy 10/10 for me.
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Жыл бұрын
It's a little weird how Protoman is both Protoman and Zero. But it works
@Dementia55372
@Dementia55372 Жыл бұрын
There are some nuclear takes in this video. I feel like Max's rating boils down to "Is this new design incredibly badass? If not, then I will rate it on a scale of how far it deviates from the original regardless of whether or not it's an improvement."
@BeastGamerKuma
@BeastGamerKuma Жыл бұрын
The designs for Battle Network are not bad at all and I did enjoy how they made Gutsman a good guy in the Anime.
@aroperdope
@aroperdope Жыл бұрын
A good guy in the anime indeed. It was Gilligan's Island all over again with him and MegaMan... Lol. Love it. I'm gonna binge watch now
@53Spawn
@53Spawn Жыл бұрын
Honestly I love that alot of them are good guys, added so much more character to them. Like, NapalmMan is a total bro. And the Bass n Treble rendition (Bass n Gospel) is absolutely insane.
@BeastGamerKuma
@BeastGamerKuma Жыл бұрын
@@aroperdope same I loved it, I just wish I kept the figures.
@BeastGamerKuma
@BeastGamerKuma Жыл бұрын
@@53Spawn That is true they were just corrupted and made evil but actually are good. Definitely enjoy the battle system that they had against other players. It was a nice evolution to Megaman like MedaBots.
@basurama555
@basurama555 Жыл бұрын
SharkMan's a total bro in the anime
@ariloulei814
@ariloulei814 Жыл бұрын
Max sees anything remotely not human shaped: "Garbage, somewhere bellow 5/10" Max sees anything human shaped: "Anywhere above 5/10" Max sees a human shape with some edgy parts to the design: "Peak Megaman Design above 8/10" These weren't robots so they got to go way more abstract with the designs. While there are a few that miss the mark a bit, I think most of the designs have more personality than the old ones. Granted more personality isn't better if it goes outside the scope of what you enjoy.
@Sonicfalcon16
@Sonicfalcon16 10 ай бұрын
Max likes the man of the megamans, dude like men
@risel56
@risel56 Жыл бұрын
*_"They did my man-wood dirty"_* ~ Maximilian Christiansen, 2023
@LTDLetsPlays
@LTDLetsPlays Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to reading his Lolcow page on kiwi farms
@777MrTibbs
@777MrTibbs Жыл бұрын
Gyroman looks like Bumblebee redesigned into a helicopter and I kinda love it.
@TornaitSuperBird
@TornaitSuperBird Жыл бұрын
Gyroman looks like he could have been a background character in Transformers Armada.
@53Spawn
@53Spawn Жыл бұрын
He's a literal transformar, which makes it even better lol.
@meteor22
@meteor22 Жыл бұрын
Max giving Protoman a "ok" rating was sucha hot take. That's the best Protoman has ever looked and they gave him a sword to boot to try to appease the Zero fans a bit. But then they just added Zero in at the end of the games series anyway and that design...idk man.
@AmartharDrakestone
@AmartharDrakestone Ай бұрын
Nah, it would look much better if they did his hair yellow instead of gray, and the red is a bit overpowering the rest of the design. Original Proto Man had a nice red/gray/yellow balance. This is just red and gray. And the spike on top of his head looks stupid.
@KhaosKontroller
@KhaosKontroller Жыл бұрын
Hot take Most of these designs are better than the classic ones.
@RegurkAbas
@RegurkAbas Жыл бұрын
"Wood Man what did they do to you?" You mean the Wood Man that was basically some dude inside a tree trunk? That Wood Man?
@GamerTowerDX
@GamerTowerDX Жыл бұрын
Yes, funny how that looks better right?
@dilflordsupreme9051
@dilflordsupreme9051 Жыл бұрын
Max referencing Persona is probably the closest we’ll get to him playing the series
@FutureMangaka2011
@FutureMangaka2011 Жыл бұрын
The closet we got to him playing Persona was in Smash Ultimate. And I don’t think he ever played Joker only the stage lol
@knickknack675
@knickknack675 Жыл бұрын
LMAO maybe one day
@dilflordsupreme9051
@dilflordsupreme9051 Жыл бұрын
@@FutureMangaka2011 I feel like Max would dig the style of P5 a lot if he tried it. Persona and Yakuza are the two games I'm surprised Max hasn't delved into yet.
@dilflordsupreme9051
@dilflordsupreme9051 Жыл бұрын
@@knickknack675 It's ok, he's playing Metroid. That alone is a good timeline
@Lunatic89097
@Lunatic89097 Жыл бұрын
He did play Persona 4 Arena back in the day
@hydra09minecrafteer
@hydra09minecrafteer Жыл бұрын
Such hot takes. Wood man redesign was way better than ice man’s. Idk about this one, Max
@Ziggaton
@Ziggaton Жыл бұрын
Yeah he's relying heavy on the nostalgia informing him and subsequently the kneejerk "they changed it too much so it sucks"
@greatbigeyeball
@greatbigeyeball Жыл бұрын
@@Ziggaton It's funny to react to designs made over 20 years ago and pretend to be shocked about it lol
@aroperdope
@aroperdope Жыл бұрын
He woke me up with the "Wood man what did they do to you!" Bruh I was half asleep. Lol
@Oneshoe_IV
@Oneshoe_IV Жыл бұрын
It's his opinion lol what do you mean "idk about this one"?
@53Spawn
@53Spawn Жыл бұрын
I mean, it is HIS opinion lol. Not need to get all razzle dazzled
@aeon3valefore
@aeon3valefore Жыл бұрын
Was hoping to see his reaction to the Zero redesign.
@StriderZessei
@StriderZessei Жыл бұрын
Watched it live, he thought it was cool, but he didn't pog.
@trise2033
@trise2033 Жыл бұрын
No, he already saw Protoman.
@aeon3valefore
@aeon3valefore Жыл бұрын
@@StriderZessei Thanks for the heads up. :)
@aeon3valefore
@aeon3valefore Жыл бұрын
@Trise There is a legit Zero.exe design.
@53Spawn
@53Spawn Жыл бұрын
He saw it a LONG time ago (before he moved to his new house) with the group. And he absolutely loved Zero.EXE. He still does and peeped it again during this stream.
@587DeathKing
@587DeathKing Жыл бұрын
Bass EXE is a 10/10 redesign.
@MetalJrock2299
@MetalJrock2299 Жыл бұрын
At least he recognizes Bass.EXE is peak character design
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 Жыл бұрын
It looks very similar to mainline Bass so I get it hehe...still looks pretty great as a NetNavi.
@SiblingRivalryZX
@SiblingRivalryZX Жыл бұрын
BATTLE NETWORKKK despite the ratings being total heresy this shit was my childhood. I hope you have an amazing time with the games!
@delipradoness
@delipradoness Жыл бұрын
Max! The design of the characters matched the aesthetic they were going for. I think it was spot on! Lol
@mattjayce2339
@mattjayce2339 Жыл бұрын
The reason for Proto Man, Roll, and Bass's drastic redesigns were that they take elements from X characters. ProtoMan.EXE is a combination of Proto Man and Zero. Roll.EXE is a combination of Roll and Alia. Bass.EXE is a combination of Bass and Sigma.
@Megamanlanprime
@Megamanlanprime 8 ай бұрын
I don’t really see much of anything of Sigma in Bass’ design. The cloak was more of a general common “dark mysterious” design concept. His actual body is actually fairly similar to Classic Bass but the dark energy and the cloak make him look so much cooler.
@Cosmic-Turtle
@Cosmic-Turtle Жыл бұрын
These designs are actually perfect. Looking at the original boss characters' designs, most of them have the same body structure, making them too samey, but those limits aren't present with these redesigns, giving them all a unique look. Plus you can tell they had a lot of fun making some of these, like Snakeman.
@ShintaTakama
@ShintaTakama Жыл бұрын
Shadowman.EXE got a 10/10 probably because he looks like Strider Hiryu.
@MrMTJensen
@MrMTJensen Жыл бұрын
Max yet again proving he doesn't know exactly what he's talking about
@dragonraizen
@dragonraizen Жыл бұрын
Because someone has to: "They did my man Wood dirty!" - Max, 2023
@tonberryhater2286
@tonberryhater2286 Жыл бұрын
Huh,could this be considered a dad joke? Lol
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@tonberryhater2286 Woodman is so derpy, words can not describe it.
@wood1066
@wood1066 Жыл бұрын
I really wish Capcom would make a Megaman legends collection and with legends 3 announcement for current gen consoles.
@JakeTylenol
@JakeTylenol Жыл бұрын
It would be the hardest to make I think which is probably why they skipped it for now to get the other projects out the way
@MagumoKawasaki
@MagumoKawasaki Жыл бұрын
and it would skip xbox just like battle network. I bought the 3 previous collections for my xbox to. I was so bummed out they skipped xbox.
@5h0ckblock
@5h0ckblock Жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of these are extremely cool. Would love to see a couple appear in one of the crossover fighting games.
@Klonoahedgehog
@Klonoahedgehog Жыл бұрын
Battle Ntwork and Star force in general need to show up in more Capcom crossover material, they always pick X and Legends characters but never these
@2sallads
@2sallads Жыл бұрын
I think reviewing these designs while not understanding their story importance and reason for looking the way they do kinda undermines the effort put into the designs. Love a lot of them and they make complete sense in their respective games.
@vermillion8827
@vermillion8827 Жыл бұрын
although not every design is a hit for me the art style itself is beautiful, vibrant colors and easy to read. this is what real megaman is in my eyes, this collection is a treat that brings back good memories 😄
@Lunchbillion
@Lunchbillion Жыл бұрын
yeah i feel like even the designs i didn't love had wonderful artwork
@vankilsing
@vankilsing Жыл бұрын
shouldve had a side by side with the original characters
@superlocke
@superlocke Жыл бұрын
I know this is all subjective but I couldn't disagree with the majority of this video more. The BN designs go SO hard in almost every capacity especially considering how well they're adapted to this theme of being computer AIs. They seriously nailed the aesthetic .
@jvts8916
@jvts8916 Жыл бұрын
Given a lot of these had expanded roles resulting in wildly different personalities, I feel like a lot of the designs are way better in context. Especially TopMan. He's custom made by an old man who who likes tops but wants to impress his kid who gravitates more towards netnavis.
@YTDaimera
@YTDaimera Жыл бұрын
Went into this knowing exactly what most of the ratings would be, especially Shadow EXE, hahaha. A little sad he didn't hit up the 7ths aside Shade, but it's understandable.
@BIGREDXXXL
@BIGREDXXXL Жыл бұрын
man... this gotta be the HOTTEST fucking take-video max has ever made imo LOL god damn.. manz rated ElecMan.EXE a 4💀
@ViKatamari
@ViKatamari Жыл бұрын
Bass looks SO GOOD in this
@h0m3st4r
@h0m3st4r Жыл бұрын
One of the redesigns Max looked at that's not in this video is, of course, Zero.EXE, which he loved. See it for yourself to get what I mean.
@Red8-8
@Red8-8 Жыл бұрын
Ah man, wish it was in the video
@heardofrvb
@heardofrvb Жыл бұрын
Zero is in the series?
@robochek9475
@robochek9475 Жыл бұрын
@Just another ghost yeah he was a virus i think and he wanted you to destroy him. He appears in transmission network gcn
@Klonoahedgehog
@Klonoahedgehog Жыл бұрын
@@heardofrvb In the Gamecube side story, which isnt included in the Legacy collection but is still a canon part of the story. I think what they did with him is kinda clever, since the Maverick virus is you know, a computer virus which is what Megaman.EXE fights all the time that's how Zero was born in this timeline, the virus gaining sentience
@KyriosJones
@KyriosJones Жыл бұрын
PharaohMan.EXE is so sick. Max is on dust
@Vyhox2000
@Vyhox2000 Жыл бұрын
Max just likes edgy designs
@LTDLetsPlays
@LTDLetsPlays Жыл бұрын
And his man in suits (skull man for example)
@mermidion7552
@mermidion7552 Жыл бұрын
Then he should have rated the Protoman design higher.
@drewstar8611
@drewstar8611 Жыл бұрын
Give half these character a scarf and a sabre and the ratings would jump 10 fold
@fapuloes
@fapuloes Жыл бұрын
I really liked how crazy they went with some of the designs and how much character it gives them compared to their original NES counterparts which for the most parts were just simple tokusatsu villains. But some of them are a bit overdesigned and jaring like Metal Man for example
@CJKenjii
@CJKenjii Жыл бұрын
Bass.EXE is one of the coolest design in the series, so i'm glad he agrees *whew*
@TheOscuras
@TheOscuras Жыл бұрын
I love Max but I feel like every once in a blue moon he'll talk about a game outside of the fighting game genre and share an opinion I COULDN'T disagree more with😂
@zachataxxii7126
@zachataxxii7126 Жыл бұрын
Taste is subjective and all that, but slandering Roll's 2nd best design (before Legends), Elecman, Heatman, Topman, Snakeman, & Toadman's best designs, Skullman's pretty good design (although I prefer the original), no mentions of Desertman, Groundman, Swordman, or Zero (I know he skipped over the ones he didn't know, but still), ranking Iceman's worst design as one of the best when Aquaman & Blizzardman are right there? why am i still here? just to suffer?
@animagamer2
@animagamer2 Жыл бұрын
Loved this. I hope Max does more videos like this! Even if the die-hards can't take anyone having negative feelings towards something they like. I grew up playing BN too guys, I get it- but let the man say his piece! Of course, he will be based on his own aesthetic preferences. Isn't that the whole point of a video like this?
@thatcokestuff
@thatcokestuff Жыл бұрын
"They did my man wood dirty" -Max
@GameAlicornLuna
@GameAlicornLuna Жыл бұрын
I always prefered these designs over the original because a lot of the original designs can be summed up as 'Guy in jumpsuit'. It wasn't until they got to the later games that they were able to expand it and give the robot masters a bit more distinct designs. Here, everyone is unique in their own way. They all vary in size from the towering Knightman.exe to the tiny Iceman.exe and many of them retained some of their original attacks. Not every NetNavi is an antagonist as well. Gutsman.exe goes the entire series as a rival to Megaman.exe but generally helps. The most colorful character of the series, Match, constantly changes his NetNavi and sides. He appears in every game except for 5 operates Fireman.exe, Heatman.exe and Flamman.exe and will either be a random NPC, a villain or just some guy trying to find his way.
@jvts8916
@jvts8916 Жыл бұрын
My personal favourite redesign is the Gospel virus from 2. Don't recognize him? It's Treble!
@ranwilliams1117
@ranwilliams1117 Жыл бұрын
What is killin this review for me is Max's lack of understanding that their not robot masters or reploids their netnavi's. Virtual bodies in the net which is why they are slimmer and some more human looking. I did enjoy his banter though as well as the video 😂
@sbktdreed
@sbktdreed Жыл бұрын
There was a boss design contest for Mega Man 2-8 rosters, Battle Network 2 (GateMan), 3 Navis each in BN 3-6, and Kung Foo Kid & Moon Destroyer for Star Force 2 & 3 respectively.
@starbutter2730
@starbutter2730 Жыл бұрын
Ive never played this series before nor did I ever grow up around it all but i fucking LOVE these designs, theyre all suuuper imaganitive and charming. I really need to grab a copy of the collection and finally dive in
@MichaelManning15
@MichaelManning15 Жыл бұрын
I can die happily once Legends Legacy Collection is released
@Lunatic89097
@Lunatic89097 Жыл бұрын
Throw in Starforce as well. Those fans need their shine!
@MegaManXPoweredUp
@MegaManXPoweredUp Жыл бұрын
I want a Collection of all the weird spinoffs. Mega Man Soccor, Command Mission, Network Transmission, The Misadventures Of Tron Bonne, Operation Shooting Star, etc.
@Gamesmarts194
@Gamesmarts194 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else think these ratings were more based off nostalgia than just general design? Like yes most of them weren’t closer to the original, but they’re not really TRYING to.
@joelraynor15
@joelraynor15 Жыл бұрын
Summoning Elec Man as a Persona "PERSONA!" shoots self with a stun gun
@peternguyen7530
@peternguyen7530 Жыл бұрын
@Maximilian Dood You just skipped Tenguman.EXE Tengu Man is from Megaman 8, and Battle Network made an emphasis on the tengu design here.
@Linkaro2
@Linkaro2 2 ай бұрын
He did mention that is is only familiar with the NES games so he rating just those and not 7/8.
@humbiglio
@humbiglio Жыл бұрын
i usually agree with max on most of these kinds of videos but i kept being like "this guys is sick!" then max says "they ruined him 2/10" lmaoi
@milkshakes93
@milkshakes93 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with these games, so I would be biased on most of them. It is nice to see someone's perspective of these designs from not playing this gen and playing the original Mega Mans.
@thewinterprince1731
@thewinterprince1731 Жыл бұрын
In the anime, Metalman was called Heavymetalman. It's more of a mouthful, but I think it's also kinda badass, especially since the saws on his shoulders are actually his weapons and they are literally just GIANT SAWBLADES.
@ivanjm2707
@ivanjm2707 Жыл бұрын
Never would've expected this video but as Palpatine once said, "A surprise to be sure but a welcome one"
@the1niddo
@the1niddo Жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite: I grew up on MMBN so when I see the old Classic designs most of the time I go "wow that's boring". Like I get it, its not my era. But its amusing to see someone from that era react to the MMBN designs.
@ShahroozSmith
@ShahroozSmith Жыл бұрын
They straight up turned Shadow Man into Strider.EXE.
@BrandDude24
@BrandDude24 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your critiques on each robot master from Battle Network. As someone who was first exposed to the MegaMan series through BN, it’s interesting to see how much my opinions vary from yours. Really liked the video though! Glad you gave the Battle Network series the exposure it deserves
@gamerkingdom1442
@gamerkingdom1442 Жыл бұрын
I actually loved the designs of Battle Network. There are some misses, but overall good designs… Although I do admit, some a really out there. 😅
@Eibon
@Eibon Жыл бұрын
When you compared Elec Man to a Persona I couldn't help but feel that's...actually what they kinda are for MMBN. They aren't robots anymore.
@vstpnv
@vstpnv Жыл бұрын
What I personally find cool about those designs is that they are basically handled by the team, that does design for mainline series now. So looking at them we can kinda grasp what Mega Man character designs would look like in 12 and further games, or in that one leaked "big budget Mega Man title" that they've been working on for years. Even if I don't quite love Battle Network or Star Force series, they surely were made with a lot of love for classics and that's what matters.
@shadeknight6537
@shadeknight6537 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: this Rush design was supposed to be for Legends, but they couldn't fit him in, not to mention the series got canned two games and one spin-off in, so they recycled it for Battle Network.
@AStandsForFrench
@AStandsForFrench Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately max has transitioned from dad to boomer with this video
@Bandit_Llanura
@Bandit_Llanura Жыл бұрын
Talking as someone with no experience with the mega man Battle Network side. some of the desings are cool as hell maybe is MAx being a grampa but something like Heatman is an 10/10 for me. I love the wacky shit
@Darkslayer289
@Darkslayer289 Жыл бұрын
​@@Feroce I personally liked Protoman's design. Battle Network was my introduction to these characters. To each their own, I guess.
@TeamStudNation1280
@TeamStudNation1280 Жыл бұрын
The Megaman Flash game and the Megaman NT Warrior anime are what got me into Megaman. I once owned Megaman Battle Network 5 (on the DS) & 6 (Gregar Version)
@gxsnipe5054
@gxsnipe5054 Жыл бұрын
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