Razer copied Logitech... but who wins?
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The Razer Viper V3 Pro has been the worst kept secret from Razer. But it's seen a lot of minor adjustments over the past year in hopes that it will finally help them defeat their biggest rival, the LOGITECH G PRO X SUPERLIGHT 2. Has it succeeded? And will people be spamming "I hope they make a mini version" in the comments?
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@iitsMikeB Ай бұрын
To dethrone the superlight, you must become the superlight.
@shiion6711 27 күн бұрын
Because they do marketing better
@Wyn3e 27 күн бұрын
Tbh the superlight Alr got fucked
@iitsMikeB 27 күн бұрын
@@Wyn3e That's a matter of perspective. I still main the Superlight because the shape is superior to anything else for me.
@zayaodicho6607 Ай бұрын
it definitely didnt copy logitech its just a better mouse
@benji7275 23 күн бұрын
yeah he's clearly biased towards logitech which is fine but the title is clickbait
@xvfdu4 17 күн бұрын
absolutely these Logitech fan boys are fuming
@benji7275 17 күн бұрын
@@xvfdu4 yeah its fine to prefer a certain company but making up reasons to why the other company is bad is cringe
@georgepierre3594 14 күн бұрын
Razer did copy Logitech. the basilik copied the g502 shape. the deathadder v3, took inspiration from g703 shape. The viper v3, took inspiration from superlight shape. They refined the shape and made it better.
@zayaodicho6607 14 күн бұрын
@@georgepierre3594 I have tried both the viper v3 pro and the superlight and they do NOT have a similar shape lol
@Throwaway-hj2rr Ай бұрын
I think it would be great if you could make the comparison of grip width a regular feature of the reviews, maybe even going as far as comparing some previously reviewed mice, like Zowie and others. I personalfly find that it's hard to find this info (reliably) and relying on manufacturer info is misleading, because it states width without taking into account that mice are often more narrow at the point you're supposed to grab them.
@riccardobaldi4676 24 күн бұрын
Hi @Diamondlobby reviews, can you do a review about the roccat kone pro pls?
@PinaEverlue Ай бұрын
so what your saying is that if i continue to have issues with my gpx 2 (replacement on the way) i should swap to razor? got it
@mrjamesinblogington 19 күн бұрын
If you fingertip or full claw grip, there's a good chance the Viper V3 Pro shape will be a better fit.
@TheThirdeYe1337 Ай бұрын
I main the white version and the coating is great. I think I prefer the rougher, more sandpaper-like V2 Pro, but it works. I actually quite like the Razer optical Gen 2 and Gen 3 switches. In the V3 Pro, I find it is surprisingly close to the Kailh mechanicals in the V3 Hyperspeed. Great review.
@linos1085 Ай бұрын
Interesting that you dislike the main buttons so much. I think they are way better than the hard ass clicky ones on the Superlight 2. But, like you said, it is all personal preference.
@k.w5804 Ай бұрын
Superlite 2 or gpx 2? My gpx had good clicks but the gpx2 had worst clicks I’ve encountered
@linos1085 Ай бұрын
@@k.w5804 2. First one was fine, not great, but fine imho
@KarmaOTS Ай бұрын
@@linos1085 bro my GPX2 buttons are perfect and light, even too light i click them by mistake :l
@linos1085 Ай бұрын
@@KarmaOTS interesting how different these switches can feel
@markus301 Ай бұрын
I own the viper v3 pro and i tried the gpx2 on a store so i can say gpx2 clicks are lighter, faster and sound better. The razer v3 pro clics are a bit harder and feels a bit mushy to press against gpx2.
@ricardogomes6888 Ай бұрын
do you know if there are any ergo wireless mices on the pipe? something with the confortable format of the 502, basilisk, glorious model i or kone air pro.
@Kyuss-Unida Ай бұрын
Yes Turtle Beach bought Roccat some time ago and is now bringing the successor to the former Roccat Kone Pure. The Turtle Beach Pure Air will be released in like 10 days.
@jessechuff Ай бұрын
Been using the Pulsar Xlite V2 and they somewhat recently released the V3. I find their shape fills my palm better than the 502 and definitely more than the Superlight shape. Battery life isn’t the best but the shape is a pretty good trade off for me.
@Pillokun Ай бұрын
I like the shape of the new viper v3 pro, it feels like a smaller version of dav3/pro. The viper v2 pro felt waaaaaaaaaay too flat and had the side buttons waaaay to far back. This new v3 has the buttons a bit more forward like the dav3/pro. I have small hands but dav3/vv3p feels perfect for mine relaxed claw grip where I want to feel the hump. gxp/2 felt not as bad as vv2p but I had the same issues with it like with vv2p.
@shmurpple Ай бұрын
I used the super light for such a long time, the only mouse to completely win me over is the lamzu thorn. The shape is just perfect for me and I’ve improved in gaming since I’ve received it.
@destinamos Ай бұрын
Cool video keep it up, as for the viper I might try it, although it’s a tough sell when I’m already using a gpx
@sekki327 Ай бұрын
Can someone recommend me few mices for large hands? I tried the sora v2 at a friend's place and its a bit too small
@MP_7 Ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned the coating, on the original black g pro wireless it was horrible for me. On the V2 pro white it's awesome for me, best coating ever! So I'm kinda worried about this on the V3, holefully it's better on the white version as you say
@inqizzo 18 күн бұрын
It would be cool if you compared things like aj159 apex, x6 and f1 moba with these big store mice
@edhirxtrastrange Ай бұрын
I have a few mice but keep coming back to the og viper. Hated it when I first got it but it grew on me
@samvelkhalatyan3362 21 күн бұрын
Hi, can you try Turtle Beach Pure Air and share your impressions?
@ethyu7467 Ай бұрын
what was the red and white mouse they showed at the beginning?
@DiamondLobbyReviews 29 күн бұрын
sprime pm1
@SSHayden Ай бұрын
What is the problem with their switches though? My last razer mouse was the OG Naga
@samz101_ 29 күн бұрын
Personally since I have a Razer Viper V2 Pro, I think the feel and how heavy they feel to click is annoying. I have a VXE R1 PRO (knockoff ninjutso sora) and they have huano blue shell pink dots. The pink dots are lighter and more satisfying to click in my opinion.
@FuRyHate 9 күн бұрын
We live in a world where latest wireless mice cost same a 144/165 hz gaming monitor
@iNViSiBiLiTi Ай бұрын
Viper V2 and Deathadder V3 use Raesha encoder. Viper Ult was Kailh.
@MrGlaicer Ай бұрын
Raesha optical encoder in rebranded Kailh
@TacticalPew Ай бұрын
Do you need to have synapse installed and running to have more than 1k polling?
@ketan1338 Ай бұрын
You'll have to install synapse to choose your desired settings and after that you can close/uninstall it
@TacticalPew Ай бұрын
@@ketan1338 yea, that's what I thought too, it's just I've seen a complaint about the polling rate setting specifically not persisting without synapse.
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
i'd imagine the polling rate swapping when in game is a synapse feature. as something has to detect a full screen application
@TacticalPew Ай бұрын
@@DiamondLobbyReviews well yes, but the question is not about that feature, it's about the mouse reverting back to 1k polling rate and not keeping that setting in it's memory without synapse running on windows, so practically being 1k polling rate mouse without synapse installed.
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
The default polling rate you set the mouse to will persist out of synapse.
@debugboiz4383 Ай бұрын
I mean the superlight never had anything special there are mice that are lighter have more polling rate and some of them even have debounce time and there are mice with better quality and better sensor
@doscris8526 15 күн бұрын
the superlight just looks more aesthetically pleasing making my brain think its better which in-turn makes my aim better
@WarriorOfPiece Ай бұрын
I stayed away from Razer products since I had a bad experience with their synapse bloatware which is a shame because they do have great products.
@friendsRfor773 Ай бұрын
u can get gpx2 for around 100$ sometimes and it has 4khz with tiny dongle unlike razer
@Gabriel-it5jy 10 күн бұрын
Super light2 is decent, but the side buttons are mushy af… viper V3 feels amazing. It’s been a whole Lotta time with it yet, but I think I like it over the new final mouse also.
@renzeldavid4568 17 күн бұрын
its the shape of superlight that makes it so good, now put some holes in it and you are golden
@MrVC Ай бұрын
Apparently someone in China is already working on a hotswap switch board for this that takes mechanical switches so if that’s true, 😩
@Funay31 Ай бұрын
Since I watched your top gaming mice video, I bought the Deathadder V3 Pro and I can't think myself buying any other mouse, this thing just magically fixed my hand fatigue and my flicking accuracy
@Rudi-Brudi Ай бұрын
Bro your reviews are the best! Informative and entertaining with a good sense of humor. Really like the style. After trying the vxe R1 pro i feel like every mouse over 100€ is overpriced and pure marketing, brand name fees.
@DelScully Ай бұрын
nothing like saving money for china to put spyware on your computer tho lol
@obliviondust2719 Ай бұрын
I win it’s me I’m ready to get out of bronze now coach!
@profosist 28 күн бұрын
I'd disagree that it's trying to be a superlight, as it's larger and far easier to palm. It's more of an ambitious Deathadder v3 than anything.
@EXTRA_SLIDEZ Ай бұрын
What is even The point in 35k dpi? There is no sensitivity that would be able to control that 😂 I use 1.6k and even that feels a bit high
@HaaKaaL Ай бұрын
I use 1000 and it's perfect
@pate00711 Ай бұрын
its just a way for them to say "i have a better sensor implementation so my mouse can have a higher max dpi" 🤷
@alextehgreek Ай бұрын
i think its a way of knowing who has better sensor, usually higher dpi the better/newer or more advanced sensor is.
@ThinkingFaces Ай бұрын
Would you buy a car with a top speed of 70 mph?
@The33Fun Ай бұрын
You don't even know dpi =//= sensitivity.
@Pneumavlr 19 күн бұрын
I love that Age Of Empires plug🙌🏼
@twsarahh Ай бұрын
There are so many enthusiast grade mice for a lower price, I'm surprised the superlight is still so popular
@Jason-rg2ki Ай бұрын
What’re some of the other mice ? :o
@joseedmv3442 Ай бұрын
@@Jason-rg2ki Zaopin z2, lamzu, ninjutsu sora, vxe r1 pro, etc.
@Jason-rg2ki Ай бұрын
@@joseedmv3442 do you own any ? If you oh do what do you rec ?
@Natheyy Ай бұрын
@@joseedmv3442 all Chinese clones with little to no support and qc issues
@kaisasong1332 Ай бұрын
@@joseedmv3442 they all got different shape that’s is why super light is still Populat
@wby8466 14 күн бұрын
My friend... Are those Chrome Hearts glasses? Or am i just blind.... But i am sure im not....
@Miniowns 28 күн бұрын
Just switched from the superlight to the v3 pro and my god it feels amazing
@LinhNguyen-rp4dj 22 күн бұрын
Im going to make the same decision as you, is it good? My hand's length is like 18,5cm. Tbh the GPX is horrible
@alkestos 18 күн бұрын
I did the same, 0 regrets.
@random_user1013 Ай бұрын
Hi im trying to choose between Razer Deathadder v3 pro or Logitech g pro x superlight 2 or Razer viper v3 pro in terms of performance and comfort, can you help me?
@angus5427 Ай бұрын
DA v3 pro user - nothing wrong with it but i have an odd feeling i would prefer the shape of the other two mice. DA has quite a high back. if i was buying new right now i wouldnt get the DA but thats just me.
@zilqiaspiana1352 Ай бұрын
DA v3 if you has big hands, go for the other two if you have smaller hands
@totalfoolhere.5215 Ай бұрын
"I can only afford one" While showing us 2 superlights
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
Original Superlight and Superlight 2!
@VANL0WEN Ай бұрын
very good vidéo good job (you need to add timestamps)
@user-hj4vw5kf5h 19 күн бұрын
V3 opticals are insane man
@DonnyDonnMendoza Ай бұрын
2:13 the “it’s just big numbers; what matters is what you do with it” is always true but it’ll always be turned into a meme 😂 More seriously though, I would’ve preferred if razer kept the V2 shape and just lightened it and put these internals into it but it’s understandable as to why razer just made a super light clone lol
@existentialrap521 21 күн бұрын
Just bought a viper 3 over the superlight 2. My superlight is currently dying, so I was just gonna go to the next one, but after seeing many videos I'm going viper. Amazon lets you "try" for 30 days. If I don't like it, I return and get superlight 2. But it just seems better in most categories for the same price.
@didaka8 13 күн бұрын
How is it after a week?
@existentialrap521 12 күн бұрын
@@didaka8 It's great. I have smaller hands so I like it better than the superlight. Side buttons are a MASSIVE upgrade. Clicks feel better. Feels more responsive. I like it. Only thing I gotta get used to is the scroll wheel. It has smaller intervals than my superlight so I over scroll sometimes, but i'll get used to it, no biggy.
@OverdoneY Ай бұрын
The quality of this vidoe is insane keep it up
@ediju2816 Ай бұрын
2:32 nice
@Defiancy Ай бұрын
Idk why but the preferred by Zekken thing is hilarious
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
i've heard it was a strict contract negotiation that razer had to adhere to. no dpi button (preferred by zekken) no zekken
@Defiancy Ай бұрын
@@DiamondLobbyReviews I was on the edge of whether or not to get this mouse, but as soon as I saw the DPI button (preferred by Zekken), I knew this was my endgame mouse. Immediately ordering 10 copies cause what ever Zekken prefers, I prefer.
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
if there was an option to only buy the DPI button (preferred by zekken) i would!
@thekovkan Ай бұрын
awesome video! the quality is just perfect
@smalfry4134 17 күн бұрын
Idk how u made a Blade60 sound that dookie💀
@Kaluxd Ай бұрын
would be good mouse if you didnt need synapse for the different polling rates.
@DaBoxGhost84 Ай бұрын
To be honest the "better mouse" is subjective. Before the VV3 pro, I was using a $65 Dareu A950 pro that I was performing really well on
@NethanielMC Ай бұрын
the new synapse is much better than S3 tho so it's not terrible anymore
@adnope Ай бұрын
bro what part of a mouse pcb is supposed to detect whether you're in a game or not 💀
@tinpot_numbee3910 Ай бұрын
4:15 😂
@stefanpapdi5151 Ай бұрын
4:14 HAHAHAHAHA THE DONK MOUSE grip in the greatest individual lan tournament of csgo history 1.7 rating holding his mouse with 3 fingers on 2 buttons
@MarioSanchez-lh7wo 2 күн бұрын
I got it , it’s hella sick , smooth with good grip .
@Daniel-qn3ek Ай бұрын
Nice DPI bro😂 2:31
@meganoj6184 Ай бұрын
mr warhuryeah will this get me out of div 5?
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
div5 doesnt exist anymore
@mamorris23 Ай бұрын
what about the switches don’t you like? you were never specific. they’re light and spammable. WAY better than the gpx2’s opticals, which were way too stiff and heavy to actuate.
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
they're raesha opticals (modified with razer) which I think are stinky. its just a personal preference thing which is why I didn't hang too much on it. to me they just feel really hollow and cheap. But this is mainly in comparison with mechanical switches (some of which felt amazing) and also the omron opticals which I prefer.
@P3RF3CTD3ATH Ай бұрын
@@DiamondLobbyReviews they do feel a bit hollow like the Deathadder V3 Pro but better. They're, I don't know how to describe it, tighter? I like it more than the GPX2 but less than the GPX or the GPW. I have a GPW from the original batch without any double clicking issues and the switches are pretty good.
@jkfdkjjd Ай бұрын
Your tattoos look like a magic eye puzzle
@toms1245 Ай бұрын
why are mouses getting bigger? bigger = worse aim. i don't want to have to drag an egg carton across my mousepad..
@virtualspace4882 Ай бұрын
Not every product is made for you. And not everyone who plays games plays shooters. Other people play relaxing games, and wants comfort rather than performance. And those people have money to spend on buying a mouse. If it's not for you, it's not for you. There's tons of smaller mice out there for you to choose
@badlorant Ай бұрын
Just to note, this mouse doesn't work in minecraft. It has tons of input lag despite being "one of the best." It will only work when directly connected throguh the cable. This kinda defeats the entire wireless purpose. However I am using a USB hub because my laptop doesn't have a USB type A port. Just wanted to throw that out there for anyone buying who plays minecraft. Edit: The problem was the 8k hz polling rate that wasn't supported by the minecraft client I was using (Badlion). If you want to play minecraft I reccomend toning it down to 1k.
@Ryuj1nM Ай бұрын
I feel like you just contradicted yourself no? Issues could get caused by you using a usb hub on what i assume is a older/low spec laptop, as gaming mice are made for mid to high range computers. Also having a mouse on higher than 1k hz polling is known to cause performance problems on mid to low end systems.
@badlorant Ай бұрын
@@Ryuj1nM My laptop isn't really low end. It's got a 3050 ti, into I-7 11th gen, 16 gb ddr4.
@Ryuj1nM 29 күн бұрын
@@badlorant then i got no clue, probably just your usb hub causing input delay.
@Shyvorix 22 күн бұрын
USB hubs can not play nice with some mice that require more bandwidth. I'd recommend trying various ports or use a USB type A female to C male connector for example to see if the bottleneck is the hub or not. It being buggy in wireless mode but not wired makes me think there might be some strange controller interference happening. Also don't ever connect the dongle directly into the hub or laptop, use the cable to give it a few inches of space. USB controllers are notorious for hellish interference.
@DaBoxGhost84 Ай бұрын
I am currently using the Viper V3 pro and am enjoying it, but I also have a gut feeling that I should pick up the GPX2.
@shinliew2363 Ай бұрын
you definitely picked up the better mouse
@NethanielMC Ай бұрын
the V3 pro is the better choice, the GPX/GPX2 has always been a bad choice (especially shape wise if you have big hands)
@adnope Ай бұрын
the click sound of gpx2 make my skin crawl, I've always prefer the razer optical switches, don't really know why diamondlobby hates it
@DaBoxGhost84 Ай бұрын
@@adnope Some people like tactility of the Mouse switch, so he might feel the Razer opticals are mushy
@TikToksolair 28 күн бұрын
Same, I just purchased the viper 3 pro and it's my first razer mouse but I've been using Logitech for 5 years but after the scroll wheel issues😭(especially as a Fortnite player) it just made sense to try something new, doesn't hurt, I'll probably get the gpx2 tho some day
@bart166 Ай бұрын
My viper v3 pro has gray stock mouse feet and is way worse than any aftermarket mouse feet. The best stock mouse feet I 've try it was on Razer DaV3. Skates in DaV3 was well rounded, fast & smooth.
@m0zart911 12 күн бұрын
high dpi is just marketing
@Defury8285 Ай бұрын
As an avid potato shape/logitech hater i'm just glad they finally have competition in non enthusiast space so they might have to actually update their mice.
@mrkoolylegend 29 күн бұрын
Company: release a mouse Diamond lobby reviews: omgg they just copied Logitech!! (Not hating)
@x_BraveN 28 күн бұрын
Lol "copied" more like made it actually a good mouse, and saying just copied when the V3 Hyperspeed been out for awhile now. Logitech sucks I feel sorry for it's fanbase really uneducated
@knneth-io3wr Ай бұрын
Daily reminder, audio of your video is still low
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
Can't you turn yours up?
@TMKM Ай бұрын
love the reference
@kolter9eist Ай бұрын
I was waiting for this one 😅😂
@savage3921 Ай бұрын
I have 19x10 hands and for me Viper is just too wide.
@owencurtis-wood3577 Ай бұрын
I have 19x10 and its fine for me, it probably just doesnt suit your grip style
@savage3921 Ай бұрын
@@owencurtis-wood3577 What bothers me the most is the front, which is a bit wider than the middle
@Wyn3e 27 күн бұрын
@@savage3921Yh so it’s mainly ur grip ive also got ur hand size and it’s fine
@owencurtis-wood3577 20 күн бұрын
@@savage3921 you'll find that most mice are like that though apart from the GPX
@manslaughter9746 Ай бұрын
Just get the v3 hyperspeed and save your $$
@JsonnOW Ай бұрын
Nah it's 30g weight difference
@andrebwai Ай бұрын
warhuryeah reviews r the best
@fwabble Ай бұрын
Does it come with a flamingo
@naowz23 27 күн бұрын
Warhuryeah?!?
@DiamondLobbyReviews 27 күн бұрын
yes??
@naowz23 27 күн бұрын
@@DiamondLobbyReviews Nothing was just surprised when i recognised your voice.
@dainiusvysniauskas2049 Ай бұрын
I hate how Viper V3 Pro looks like. Zero personality, looks like any other Chinese OEM mouse.
@DiamondLobbyReviews Ай бұрын
its just a gaming mouse bro, it doesnt need a personality
@dainiusvysniauskas2049 Ай бұрын
@@DiamondLobbyReviews True, but at least you knew Viper by look, it stood out with its design. Now? Generic, boring and cheap looking
@manuelaleandrosiridilone2162 3 күн бұрын
Form me a big hand guy, is the best mouse
@BC1422 26 күн бұрын
this dude was NOT good at find the similarities to be calling that shit a copy
@user-wl6rg4zw9j Ай бұрын
razer copied the g502, and now this!
@Wyn3e 27 күн бұрын
Tbh razer mice despite price is Alr better than Logitech
@strvy Ай бұрын
Neither, Lamzu solos both
@realevermore 12 күн бұрын
Its better than gpx
@keithgreen5177 28 күн бұрын
Can’t copy when it’s better. Logitech isn’t the best mouse….doesnt matter how much they pay you to say that. Smart people know better.
@SeriouslyTechStuff Ай бұрын
6969 DPI. lol
@rodrigofernety Ай бұрын
Razer clears >
@Redderz Ай бұрын
G305 is the king
@robind8526 Ай бұрын
👍
@attxks Ай бұрын
First!
@eric_whale Ай бұрын
5th comment
@adityadhar1358 Ай бұрын
Click bait
@mrjamesinblogington 19 күн бұрын
8:42 That's the part that is so sad and amusing about all of this. Logitech sunk a small nation's military budget into R&D, studying a litany of hand dimensions and their respective grip styles, and came out with one of the most accommodating shapes that Logitech doesn't even have a patent on. What this means is that any competitor can come along, copy the shape 1:1, lower the weight, add their own internals, coating, etc., and the shape itself will cost them minimal R&D since Logitech already did the research for them, but yet all these "Superlight killers" refuse to do this.
@Jipzorowns Ай бұрын
Finally, as a person with larger hands, I'm very happy with this somewhat larger mouse. I don't like the small mice trend :(
@bertrandrussell894 Ай бұрын
Razer as s company are crap though. Ive had lousy build quality from them and zero customer service. Id be *really* hard pressed to buy any Razer product. I see it as vastly overpriced at the least.
@takh6806 Ай бұрын
both lost, the winner is XTRFY with their new mouse that's will be released soon.
@blanke_bolster Ай бұрын
more razer crap.....
@Wyn3e 27 күн бұрын
Funny thing is it’s not even bad
@veritas7010 22 күн бұрын
Nobody, both trash
@vensanm1 Ай бұрын
TLDR: logitech is still better :)
@Wyn3e 27 күн бұрын
TLDR: Logitech superlight is still shit compared to the competition
@BearBurgers 29 күн бұрын
Wish Razer would copy the G703 🥲
@vhallis Ай бұрын
I can't wait for a wireless mini version 🥹
@KGR_r Ай бұрын
who's gonna tell him 😬
@Rose333X Ай бұрын
V3 pro is a wireless mouse 😭
@Ryuj1nM Ай бұрын
@@Rose333X i think they are referring to a wireless version of the viper mini (corded 50$ popular mouse) which still hasn’t gotten a true wireless version, unless you’re counting the viper signature edition which is 300$
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