He left shiaism along with his brother 😂

@@naimajama8465where is the proof for that Naima? I always respected this Raza brother where did u see he became Sunni?

@@naimajama8465Where is your proof lol ?

@@Risala_28 if you search his name, he does a interview talking about how he left shiaism.

@@ghazialbadry6623 if you search his name, he does a interview talking about how he left shiaism.

EXACTLYYY. Good, you picked that up too. These guys don't know Arabic that's why.

Not even that Man, I dont speak arabic BUT the Word Of ALLAH is sacret

Really bro they are hiding it, like iran is hiding imam mehdi as

Shakir Baba and Italy is hiding Jesus

And California is hiding 2Pac

Cov FF Channel raises heads like Mohamed said

Truth Seeker why beacuse he spoke truth 😂

Truth Seeker have you not watched a shamsi video? He’s the most arrogant person I’ve seen on speakers corner

Truth Seeker no wonder Br. Adnan doesnt want to speak with him. No one actually.

Truth Seeker just find the truth ok and than say something ok

wemajorbeats two wrong doesn’t make a right. The difference is that Alshamsi has lots of knowledge.

Yes Ali was the khalifa after Uthman and he gave allegiance to all 3 caliphs before him. Be a good little shiat of Ali and do the same. Don't disrespect Ali or he will throw you in hell.

Anti Virus - Ali only gave allegiance to the 3 before him as he had Allah's words memorised within him and did not want to cause divide. He mentions in letter 3 in nahjul balagha how the leadership was stolen from him. It's hilarious how you could put someone like Uthman over Ali - Ali was the most knowledgeable to the point that the previous caliphs would ask HIM for help. Who's more deserving?

Hassan who is more knowledgeable? You or Ali?

Assalamu Alaikom WarahmatuLLah brothers and sisters ❤️ please 🙏 help me to get followers, I really need your help. Follow me and my videos , the world of Jinn وا Shayateen 👹

Yeah until Adnan or Shamsi shows up😅😅

@@umardad4454 And this is the problem, we believe that not anyone can discuss with them as you just said (until somebody specifically has to show up) otherwise they're always right. Thanks for supporting my point.

Assalamu Alaikom WarahmatuLLah brothers and sisters ❤️ please 🙏 help me to get followers, I really need your help. Follow me and my videos , the world of Jinn وا Shayateen 👹

@@umardad4454 yeah lol bro..when Shamsi comes things get more interesting and i wont stop laughing the whole day..the next day i have to take a sick leave..😂🤣😅

Adnan is way too overrated, a youtube channel by the name of "the Twelvers" exposes their ignorant lies

Cov FF Channel And then you come up to me trying to be sincere and wonder why i dont let you record ? And your first to comment negative on my video aganist shia islam.

Raza Rizvi. You been exposed as falsifying Sunni scholarship on sunnidefense. Shi'ism is built on weak foundations and relies on taqiyyah and lying against the Sunnis.

Next time im there why dont you stop being a keyboard warrior and instead discuss with me when im there .

Raza Rizvi Raza this is my opinion you don’t have to except it, don’t be to aggressive. People can comment what they hear and see.

Cov FF Channel Fair enough . Your entitled to your opinion. Just saying if you feel so strongly why not refute me when im there rather then comment on videos after im gone. As my arguments are clear .

Hussain althalmi THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Imran Ahmed abu bakr “jabbed” Aisha till she laid like a dead woman. Idk anyone poking and the other person falling motionless Volume 8, Book 82, Number 828

Muhammad Abedin THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Mus Muslim I have heard this before as well, they have many fabricated hadith made up with unknown imams from kufa, there doctrine is nothing like the teachings which were revealed to our beloved prophet pbuh and I'm talking about the 12vers Shiite sect, they are a combination of Zoroastrianism and christianity/Judaism

What falsehood? this is more of a discussion of politics. Shia are not kafir unless they do things that make them kafir. Are all Sunnis wahabis? or Isis? Or Al Qaeda?

yea and it was authentic and even from your guyses books 😂

Shia taqiya all around

He's the definition of the khawarij

@@omerfarukanik1834 lol taqiya reading your own book lol, u sunnis are confused loool

Shia Defence Debate me Topic: Khilafat

Not only that, the hadith says Ali is khalifa after me. Focus on ''after me'', immediately the sunni says '' yes, we accept he is khalifa, but this doesn't mean after the prophet صلى الله عليه و آله و سلم '' , then he shift it to imamah, confusing himself and others. They are just following a script from their teachers, there was no reasoning in this debate( except in the end a bit :D ) . If he accept this hadith, it means that the prophet صلى الله عليه و آله و سلم did assign ali عليه السلام as a khalifa after him. Even if it doesn't say ''after me'', unlike abu bakr/omar/othman, they weren't chosen by him !! So who are they to take it from imam ali عليه السلام .

Shia Defence THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Mus Muslim hadees' don't matter as long as they don't go hand in hand with the Quran. We don't follow the concept like you dumbfuck follow that every Hadith is sahih in your sahih books. Read bukhari and you have quite a lot of jokes in there which you consider sahih, we don't have that so this Hadith has zero value which you just quoted.

Mujji Raza First of all tjose shia hadiths from your sgia books which you love and follow. But, if you don't like it, you should bring refuting narrations from shia scholarship with isnaad. But if you don't, it may cobclude that all shia hadiths are fake!!!

Arta Panah take the shite as your ally's you will join them in hell to you loser

No one asked you for your opinion idiot.

AtaPanah - Yes I agree with your observation...AND have notice the DOG like reaction to your opinion ?.....Very interesting indeed...

MR 007 he is rafida too, I am 99% sure. this is taqiya and propaganda.

According to Shiite wives of the prophet are not part of his household or family. In Quran when a woman is married then she is part of her husband’s family and her father is not her guardian(wali, responsible for taking care of her). It doesn’t say that after marriage she is not part of her parents family but it says now her priority is her husband’s home. And the husbands responsible to providing and protect his wife. Shite are making Hazrat Ali look bad because he was unable to take care of his family(food, protection) or Hazrat Fatima an ungrateful woman because she was not satisfied with things that her her husband was giving to her. There are Shias who claim that after prophet died and after some years when there was a war between Ali and Muawia, on this occasion Ali divorced prophet’s wife. Imagine if someone dies and after ten or more years his son in law divorce mother in law.

Sabrine Do you even know what taqiya is...

Keep finding excuses... Dont come on judgement day saying you werent shown the truth....

@Abbas aboud one of the lies made up by Shia themselves. There's the taqiya right over here..

At 50:40.. lol.. see the moment the chain of the narration is asked the shia guy fumbles and drops the subject

Hey you ugly idiot I call police on you because you ugly dog

And what happens when someone shows their face? Not muslamic behaviour

Just because someoneis positioned as Khalif on earth doesnt mean the people will let him be Khalif. It just means its their right given by Allah, the people can disobey. Adnad did absolutey nothing but prove Sunni prominent figures prevented rightful khalifs from being khalifs. Forgot about when Allah appointed Haaroon to be leader when Musa was gone? How did that go?

Adnan Rashid was trying to put words in Razas mouth. He is a liar. And he still accepts that even in your own books the words of 12 Caliphs are there

He walks in like a Lion mashallah. Ustad Adnan Rashid ❤

Because Adnan chats utter nasibi

Ray Ray ok bro chill dnt beat yourself up over it

MR Ali don’t be toxic ok buddy

These Shias are afraid of Ustad Adnan

Ray Ray LOL funny joke.

Other way around and i can show daleel for that

Ray Ray lies 🤣

HAHAHAHA Yo thanks Mr.Shite i really needed this Laugh hahhhaha

Ray Ray is a come name for a dog. Look just shut your face and go and see if your 13th Imam has come out of the have were you guys leave food for him.

@Abbas aboud it's daef

"بمنزله"

It's a sahih hadith accepted unanimously If you have any problems Discuss this with the prophet pbuh&hf

​@@mdsaifuddinahmed2199 So Sahih Muslim has daef Hadith?

@@syedmustafa5446 some daef hadeeths are added in the book to differentiate

LSX FOX wow you are so smart!!!! You people are experts on musa that’s why you celebrate his freedom on ashura instead of the mourning the murder of Hussain. The prophet Musa prayed to Allah grant him a supporter and helper exactly how Ali was to Muhammad and Imam ali tried to die for the prophet countless times let’s mention uhad where umar (ran) and Imam Ali stayed. Let’s mention khandaq where he tried to be sacrificed in place of the prophet and during Hijra when he slept on the bed. You are new to Islam, calm down

Muhammad Abedin THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Muhammad Abedin New to Islam, مسلم ولد مسلم ولد مسلم ولله الحمد ماني جاهل بالدِّين ولاني مشرك ولا من أهل البدع.

Judas Priest THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Shia belive that these people were good but they also did some bag things to rasool family .. so to show love to rasool ..shia dont follow those who did bad . But they are big names in history shia respect that also.

Well, i disbelieve and dont support the people u named, but i dont give la3nat

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Shia Defence THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

This is not a wwf bettel ..

@@krmg6816 yes but when brother adnan steps in u gotta c their faces. Its nothing but to cry or to piss in pants

its so simple , do not get your religion from murderers ,,, read Battle of the Camel and Battle of Siffin ,,,, ,chose a side and stick to it , both sides can not be right at the same time ,,,,, if you follow both sides of a battle you do not have logic ,

@@dianarista7391 both sides cant be wrong either. U should ask that to shia jew ibn saba

It's my dream too. In sha Allah.

@Abbas aboud Shia lies.

Oz u lie to urself and try to convince urself that this is a lie but it obviously is the truth

He's frustrated because Raza demolished him in the debate earlier.....

No, he was upset because Weak/False Hadith were being spread.

MR 007 , 🤣🤣🤣, on a serious note though, the Shiites loves to push that false narrative that they have always been the victims of persecution but people should look into the history of the Safavid Dynasty (Shia). Before they came into power the people of persia/iran were SUNNI Muslims and the brutal Savafid rulers (Shia) led a bloody campaign against the population to forcibly convert them. This is common knowledge and independently verifiable. I recommend this website though: sonsofsunnah.com/

Ali is one of Allahs name as well. Your right we are persecuted all over, we are persecuted by the Sunnis also mention that, also mention your literacy rates are the lowest in the world, also mention that the poorest Arabs are fighting the richest wahabis with trump weapons, how dare you mock the oppressed, clear enemy of Allah and follower of the 3 caliphs

Muhammad Abedin, And again who is persecuting the Sunni Muslims in Iran? Please everyone look it up, plenty of articles on it online. As far as literacy rates goes....I dont know why you dont make a quick google search so that you dont embarass yourself with such a claim. Everyone can look that up as well that Iran has a lower literacy rate than almost every country in the arabian peninsula. Saudi is way ahead of you.

Muhammad Abedin THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

you dont even know what your talking about i suggest you study a little more

Shamsi why you have to have akhlaq of abu lahab?

Shamhy Answer to that is ..... Ok bro

Raza Rizvi Yes the Sunni brother was well mannered and amicable but why do you purposefully lie, cheat and deceive? You've been caught on numerous occasions twisting words and contexts and you ashamedly advertise McDonald's during 'debates.' What s next? Legalizing wearing a Santa outfit at Christmas? No wait, your partner in devil worship Abu Layth has already done that, my bad. Why lie Raza, why lie?

Riaz Natha lol you just said what I was thinking hahahha

MR 007 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pc2hdaqrvJmvop8.html I hoped you've watched what I was watching too. More craziness from the Al Capones of innovation, likening the Prophet and his companion to mosquitos and flies. I wonder if Raza shares these interpretations just like his neo British/Zionist Shiism puppetmasters do? I would also like to see him correct slander from igmoramuses who lie about xhild molestation against the Prophet. Instead he calls Sara a brother and sucks up to enemies of progress and strife merchants like Kalam. You are known by the company you keep Raza, and your associations only indicate you share their deep despise for Haqq. I pray you can resolve this dastardliness as you seem a nice person beyond the sick Shia shell.

Rif Raf THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Sunnis when debating shias, the sunnis start behaving like Christians who know they will lose the debate. Adnan for example his newest trick is to deny his scholars and parts of the quran

Hussain althalmi THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Abbas aboud he is definitely a guide. From how is stating the hadith, what's the ref by the way, he is making out like our beloved prophet pbuh was JUST a warner and that Ali may Allah be pleased with him was the guide. When we say sunnah, are these not of our beloved prophet pbuh. I don't want to speak about this subject too much as I have little knowledge and also don't want to say anything wrong. Finally the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon.him and his family) was a warner, the best of all creations, our guide and more. And Ali may Allah be pleased with him was a guide, along with Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) as they sat in the company and learnt from the best guide. May Allah swt forgive me for any mistakes and.guide the misguided.(this is my.kids youtube account)

Breezy its simple: Ibn ‘Abbas said: When the verse { You are only a warner, and to every people there is a guide } was revealed, the Prophet placed his hand on Ali's chest and said, “I am the warner {and to every people there is a guide}.” Then he placed his hand on the shoulder of ‘Ali and said: “You are the guide, O Ali! Through you will those seeking guidance after me attain it.” - Abu Ja’far Muhammad ibn Jarir ibn Yazid ibn Khalid al-Tabari, Jami’ al-Bayan , Volume 7, page 341 The chain of the above report is well authenticated, as al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani stated in Fath al-Bari: "What al-Tabari recorded through a well authenticated chain" - ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani al-Shafi’i, Fath al-Bari Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari , Volume 8, page 376 So its clear, That After the prophet, the guide for the believer is Ali, as the prophet himself says in the above hadith.

Allah chose Abu Bakr. Qadr.

won what? taqiyya game of lies?

Isis Keyboard warrior , I want to see you debate him and get him u lated on camera but ofcourse u won't go because ur a keyboard warrior

Yeah course you would little boy

im up for it. mandem cant even read quran but think they can start quoting hadeeth like theyre some sick.

this hadeeth is authentic, and is true Ali RA was the fourth khalifa and successor . Shia brothers wake up and smell the coffee your religion is based on hate fabricated narrations. and the 12 imam thing is pure kufr. "He alone do we worship, and he alone do we ask for help". if you lot are up for a chat im up for it too let me know when you are going speakers corner. as i said i am not so knowledgeable on this topic but on pure basics im up for a discussion.

how about i discuss with you when are you going to be in speakers corner. or are you a keyboard warrior mate.

Bin Linen 😂🤣🙉

Is this how Aisha became Sunni Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Number 828

Muhammad Abedin THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Abbas aboud It's not problem. Let's assume from your shia perspective. Musa and Aaron were Prophets? Yes!!! Ali was Prophet? No!!! If we make similiarity with the fact of successor appointment, it makes no sense, because Aaron died earlier than Musa. But Ali didn't. Now, this hadith is irrelevant to the claim of Ali appointment as successor.

Abbas aboud OK, to tell the truth, you merely missed the whole Hadith. Bring the whole narration of this Hadith here and according to our scholarship we can understand precisely. Copy it and post here, but not some part, only the wholly text.

That's how everyone talks there. Both of them constantly cut each other off. That's what happens when there isn't a moderator in a debate and its informal. If you wanna watch someone like that, listen to Adnan Rashid and Syed Ali debating. Its always quiet and respectful.

Exactly brother he always does this...but his so called pundits don't see it,

lol he did talk

Do the Imams Have Any Authority on the Universe? The mercenary writers have tried more than one way to insult the followers of the Members of the House of the Prophet Muhammad. Among these shameful ways is the allegation that the Shi'ite Muslims believe that the Imams from the Members of the House of the Prophet Muhammad control the atoms of the universe. These writers declare that such a belief is a belief in the divinity of the Imams. They tried to prove this accusation by another allegation. They accused the revolutionary Islamic leader, Imam Khumayni, of saying in one of his books or lectures that the Imams from the Members of the House of the Prophet Muhammad control the atoms of the universe. I have never read such a statement in the books or lectures of Imam Khumayni. However, let us assume that he indeed said this. But let us try to understand his words instead of deliberately trying to misunderstand them. Did the revolutionary leader mean that the Imams have an independent authority over the atoms of nature separate from the authority of God Almighty? Did he mean that the Imams are able, by their own power, to change the course of nature? Could he not have meant that the Imams are so absolutely obedient to God, and that because of their purity and obedience to Him, He responds to their prayers? Therefore, if they ask Him to change a natural course, their prayers are answered. There is no doubt that Imam Khumayni does not think that the Imams have power independent from the Almighty. He is too pure and righteous to voice such a thing, write it, or think it. He is one of the most righteous, pure, and obedient to the Almighty. If Imam Khumayni had said that the Imams can control the atoms of the universe, he undoubtedly meant that the Imams of the House of the Prophet Muhammad had ascended in their obedience and worship to God to such a high degree that they could have asked the Almighty to transform the atoms of one object into the atoms of another, and He would have granted their request. Furthermore, if they had asked Him to revive a dead person, God would have brought him back to life. Is this a belief in the divinity of the Imams? Those who attribute such a statement to Imam Khumayni and consider it a deviation from the Islamic course should give the matter serious thought. They should test such a statement with the contents of the Holy Qur'an. The Great Book informs us of the miracles of the Prophets of God. And what is that in thy right hand, O Moses? He said: This is my staff. On it, I lean, and with it, I beat branches for my sheep, and in it I find other uses. "God said: Cast it down, O Moses! He cast it down, and behold! It became a snake, slithering. God said: Grasp it and fear not. We shall return it to its former state. "And draw thy hand to your side, it will come forth white without harm. That will be another miracle." (20: 17-22). This means that the dead cells which composed the rod of Moses were transformed into living cells. Then those living cells miraculously went back to dead cells. In chapter Al-Shu'ara, we read the following words of the Almighty: "We revealed to Moses: Strike the sea with thy staff. It parted, and each part was like a huge mountain." (26: 64) Does this not mean that God made the sea obedient to Moses to such a degree that Moses was able to divide the water of the sea into two solid parts, each of them as huge as a mountain in height and size? The Qur'an Informs Us Of Jesus In Ali- 'Imran, we read that the Almighty informed us about Jesus: "And we will make him a messenger to the children of Israel (with this message): I come to you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird, by Allah's leave. I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I raise the dead by Allah's leave . . ." (3:49) Here we see that the Almighty enabled Jesus to transform a piece of clay into a living bird that could fly like other birds. Is this the work of Moses or Jesus? Would the Qur'an invite us to deify someone other than God? The Qur'an Informs Us Of Muhammad In regard to the Prophet Muhammad, we read God's word in the chapter of The Moon: "The hour (of judgement) is near, and the moon has been split. But if they see a sign, they turn away and say: This is prolonged magic." (54: 1-2) This verse informs us that Allah split the moon in response to His Messenger Muhammad's prayer, and this never happened before the time of Muhammad. A Tree Walked In Response To The Order Of Muhammad We find in Nahj al-Balaghah that Imam Ali reported that he was with the Prophet when the chieftains of Quraysh challenged him and asked him to order a nearby tree to uproot and walk to him. They said that this would be visible evidence of his prophethood. The Messenger of God spoke to the tree saying: "Tree, if you believe in Allah and the Hereafter and know that I am a Messenger of God, uproot and walk until you stand in front of me, with permission of God." The tree, obeying the Prophet, uprooted and walked to him while making a loud noise like the wings of a flying bird. When the chiefs saw the tree standing in front of the prophet, they asked him to make half the tree come forward and keep the other half in its original place. When he did that, they said: "Let the half that came to you go back to the other half. He did." (Nahj al-Balaghah, part 2, pp.158-9) Ibn Hisham reported similar to this: "Rukanah Al-Muttalibi was the strongest man in Mecca. He met the Messenger outside Mecca and the Messenger invited him to Islam. Rukanah said: "If you can prove that you are a true messenger, I will follow you." The Messenger said: "What do you say if I wrestle you down? Will that make you believe that I am a true prophet?" Rukanah said: "Yes." The Prophet wrestled him down twice. Rukanah said: "Muhammad, this is really amazing. Did you really wrestle me?" The Prophet said: "I will show you more amazing things than this if you obey God and follow my way." Rukanah said: What is it? The Prophet said: "I will call this tree which you are looking at, and it will come to me." Rukanah said: Call it, and the Prophet called it. The tree came until it stood in front of him. The Prophet said to it: "Go back to your place," and it went to its original place. (Ibn Hisham, AI-Seerah al-Nabawiyyah, part 1, page 391) These miracles which occurred in response to prayers of the Messenger of God testify, as documented in the Qur'an, that Allah empowers His great servants to perform miracles by His permission. In other words, He responds to the prayers of His Messengers by creating miracles. What happened through the prophets does not indicate that they had any touch of divinity. On the contrary, it testifies that those prophets were true servants of God. They ascended to the highest degree of servitude to Him, and that their obedience to Him was absolute. Had they been otherwise, they would not have been able to perform any miracles, and no prayer by them would have been answered. They obeyed God completely and He responded to their prayers. Are The Imams Like The Prophets? It may be said that miracles are conceivable when they are attributed to messengers of God. However, the Imams of the Members of the House of the Prophet are not prophets. They were men of knowledge and righteousness, but none of them ascended to the degree of prophethood. This is true, but the Imams from the House of the Prophet were non-prophets because the prophethood was concluded by the Messenger of God, the Prophet Muhammad. Had the Messenger not been the last of the prophets, it would have been possible for the Imams, or some of them, to be prophets. Probably other people could have become prophets as well. The evidence of this is that the prophet said to Ali: "You are to me like Aaron was to Moses except that there shall be no prophets after me." (al-Bukhari, his Sahih, part 5, page 24). This means that Ali was like Aaron in everything except the prophethood. If any of the Sunnite scholars think that we are exaggerating by saying that Ali and the Imams from his children were qualified for the prophethood if the Messenger had not been the last of the Prophets, they should remember that prominent Sunnite scholars reported similar to this concerning 'Umar. The hadith-recorder Ahmad Ibn Hajar Al-Haythami in his book AI-Sawa'iq AI-Muhriqah, page 96, documents that Imam Ahmad, Al-Tirmidhi, Al-Hakim, and Al-Tabarani reported that 'Uqbah Ibn 'Amir said that the Messenger of God said: "Had it been possible to have a prophet after me, that prophet would have been 'Umar." Why should anyone think that it would be an exaggeration to say that Allah would make nature and the atoms of the universe obedient to the Imams of the House of the Prophet Muhammad when we do not consider it an exaggeration to say that 'Umar could have been a prophet if Muhammad had not been the final prophet. Ibn Hajar, in his Al-Sawa'iq, page 102, reported that when Egypt was conquered by the Muslims, there was a custom to throw a girl in the Nile River on the 11th night of one of the non-Arabic months in order that the Nile would continue to flow. It was believed that without throwing a girl into it, the Nile would not flow. Amr Ibn Al-’As wrote to the Caliph 'Umar concerning this custom. 'Umar sent a message to the Nile saying: "If you were flowing before by your own power, we do not want you to run; and if Allah is the one who makes you flow, we ask the Almighty to make you flow." Amr Ibn Al-’As threw the letter of 'Umar into the Nile one day before the Christian commemoration of the crucifixion. The following morning they woke up to find the river flowing stronger and had gone up 48 feet in one night. www.al-islam.org/shiites-under-attack-shaykh-muhammad-jawad-chirri/do-imams-have-any-authority-universe

Jackson Jones - Yes and what do you think is the Mohammadan Moses the same as the Biblical Moses ?

No way. The story of Moses is not in full in the quran. it has too many omissions. It doesnt even mention JOSHUA by name so i could never take it as a base.

Thanks for the reply - appreciated - I have noticed that some Christians argue as if there IS indeed an OVERLAP between the Mohammadan versions of Biblical Characters ( Eg Moses - David - Jesus - and even Satan)

Ya ali 786 THIS IS SHIA HADITH "IBLEES LOVES ALI ONLY" FROM SHIA BOOKS: "Bikhar Al Anwar" Vol. 27, P. 149, "Anuar En-numaniya" Nimatullah Al-jazeera, Vol. 2 P.168; "Imam Ali Wal-jinn", Abdurrasul Zainab, P.135; "Uyun Ahbar Ar-read", Ibn Babawayeh Al-kummi Volume1 P.77. "Reported by their Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن زريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد ، عن دارم بن قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رأى ، عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السلام عن أبيه موسى بن جعفر عن ابيه ، عن آبائه ، عن على بن ابي طالب عليهم السلام قال : كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب ، قد سقط حاجباه على عينيه من شدة الكبر ، وفى يده عكازة ، وعلى رأسه برنس احمر ، وعليه مدرعة من الشعر ، فدنا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة ، فقال : يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه واله وسلم ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى الله عليه واله وسلم : خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك ، فلما تولى الشيخ ، قال : يا أبا الحسن أتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهم لا . قال : ذلك اللعين ابليس . قال على عليه السلام : فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى الارض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه لأخنقه ، فقال لى : لا تفعل يا أبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم ، ووالله يا على انى لاحبك ، وما ابغضك احد الا شركت أباه في امه ، فصار ولد الزنا ، فضحكت وخليت سبيله “………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying: I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the Ka’bah, and said: O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said: O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed Iblis. Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me: O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.” SHIA HADITH OF ALI IS THE MASTER OF THE HELL! The Shia book, known as the "Maarifat bi nuraniya" ("cognition through the light"), which belongs to the category of "the mystery of Ahl al-Bayt" says: : Imam Ali said: "... And Muhammad became the Owner of the Assembly, and I became the Owner of the Gathering, and Muhammad became the Master of the Heaven, and I became the Master of the Fire (Hell) ...."

Mus Muslim lol that's just brilliant how you have picked out a controversial narration and sent me it thinking I can't do the same. Do you have any idea what is written in your books which are sahih do you have any idea of the amount of statements in your books which are sickening and I don't know where to even start. Do you have any idea why people like salman Rushdie and Tommy Robinson have made a killing over the things written in your books. Where do you want me to start mate.

Ya ali 786 SHIA HADITHS INSULTS OF ALI WHO ANGERED FATIMAH 1) The Prophet addressed the above statement (”…he who makes her angry, makes me angry”)to Ali who had angered Fatima in a very famous incident. This incident is narrated by the esteemed founding father of Shia theology, Ibn Babaveh Al-Qummi, better known as Al-Sadooq. In his book, Al-Sadooq relayed the following narration on the authority of Imam Jafar as-Sadiq. This narration is also available on Al-Shia.com: Majlisi “Bihar” 43/201-202 source: www.al-shia.com/html/ara/books/behar/behar43/a21.html ” It is narrated on the authority of Abu Abdullah Jafar Al-Sadiq: A miserable of the miserables came to Fatima, the daughter of the Messenger of Allah, and said to her: “Did you not know that Ali proposed to marry (Khataba) the daughter of Abu Jahl?” She said: “Is it true what you say? He said three times: “What I say is true.” Jealousy entered into her (heart) to an extent she could not control, for Allah has ordained that women be jealous and that men perform Jihad, and He has made the reward of the patient (woman) similar to that of the Murabit and Muhajir in the way of Allah. He said: And Fatima’s anguish became severe and she remained thinking about it until night time…she moved to her father’s residence. Ali came to his residence and did not see Fatima and his anguish increased and became great on him, even though he did not know what happened, and he was ashamed to call her from her father’s house so he went to the Masjid and prayed as much as Allah willed, and he collected some of the sand in the Masjid and laid on it. When the Prophet saw how sad and anguished Fatima was, he poured water over himself and wore his clothes and entered the Masjid. He kept praying, making Rukoo and Sujood, and after every time he completed two Raka he made Du’a that Allah remove what Fatima had of sadness and anguish because he left her turning over and breathing heavily. When the Prophet saw that she could not sleep and could not rest he said: “O daughter, rise!” So she rose and the Prophet carried Al-Hassan and she carried Al-Hussain and took hold of Umm Kulthoom’s hand until they reached Ali (as) while he was sleeping. The Prophet put his foot on Ali, pinched him, and said: “Rise Abu Turab! You have disturbed many a resting person. The Messenger of Allah then said: “O Ali! Do you not know that Fatima is a piece of me and I am from her. Whoever disturbs her, disturbs me and whoever disturbs me has disturbed Allah, and whoever disturbs her after my death then as if he has disturbed her in my lifetime and whoever disturbed her in my lifetime then as if he has disturbed her after my death.” (source: Ibn Babveh Al Qummi’s “Elal Al-Sharae’”, pp.185-186, Al-Najaf Print; also narrated in Majlisi “Bihar” 43/201-202) This story was narrated by Al-Majlisi in his book Jala Al-Eoyon. There are not many scholars of the Shia considered more authoratative than Al-Qummi and Al-Majlisi, and both narrate this story. 2) SHIA HADITHS ALI R.A ANGERED FATIMAH And this was not the only time that Ali angered Fatima. According to Shia sources, we see several other instances. On one occassion, she was angry with Ali because she saw his head in the lap of a slave girl that was given to him as a gift. She even left him for awhile and went to her father’s house, which is something that females do when they are upset with their husbands or they are facing marital problems. This narration is available on the YaZahra.com, a reputable Shia website: Majlisi “Biharul anwar” 43/147 TRANSMITION: Al-Qummi and Al-Majlisi narrated on the authority of Abu Thar: I migrated with Jafar ibn Abi Talib to Abyssynia. A slave girl worth 4,000 dirhams was given to Jafar as a gift. When we came to Medinah he gave it to Ali as a gift that she may serve him. Ali kept her in Fatima’s house. One day Fatima entered and saw that his head was in the girl’s lap. She said: “O Abu Al-Hasan! Have you done it!?” He said: “O daughter of Muhammad! I have done nothing, so what is it that you want?” She said: “Do you allow me to go to my father’s house?” He said: “I will allow you.” So she wore her Jilbab and went to the Prophet. (source: Ibn Babaveh Al-Qummi’s “Elal Al-Sharae’”, p.163; it is also narrated in Bihar Al-Anwar, pp.43-44, Chapter on “How her life with Ali was”) 3) SHIA HADITHS ALI ANGERED FATIMAH “When Fatima asked for Fadak from Abu Bakr and he refused to give it to her, she returned full of anger that could not be described and she was sick; and she was angry with Ali because he refused to help her.” (Al-Majlisi’s Haqq-ul-Yaqeen, pp.203-204; also recorded in Al-Tusi’s Amali, p.295)

Mus Muslim I just realised who u r. Your that guy who I spoke to on the phone who was swearing at me and my family and going all psycho on me. Please go away. Email Someone else.

You're Shia hadiths contain around 80 to 90% weak reports, these chains of narrations don't go back to the prophet pbuh, majority kufan scholars so we throw these to the wall.

The difference is the 12th imams are a fundamental belief in Shia'ism. Abu Bakr, etc were political leaders. This is political msh aqeeda. Imama is aqeeda to Shia.